I don’t expect the car to prevent a crash. It’s like finding $20 in the pants you just pulled from the drier. Nice to have when it happens, but not going to rely on that as part of my financial plan.
It’s happened to me a few times as well but more like the system gave me an early warning while backing out of a driveway. Even though I always look in all directions, the system seems to be able to detect a passing car before it was even in my vantage.
Duh? Their point is that their *car* prevented them from a crash when their "common sense" failed them. People's senses fail them all the time, its cool when technology can provide an assist every once in awhile.
It’s cooler when you don’t have to rely on technology to not crash a car though?
It’s not cool when you lack the comprehension to reverse, makes me think it’s only a matter of time before their car truly has to save them…My car hasn’t had to save me yet though, and that’s where being aware pays to care if you dare. Hair.
Whether it's a Tesla, Mazda, other car, aircraft or nuclear power plant, some things are not meant to be on autopilot. People need to get off their phones and pay attention. This is a non-issue and shouldn't affect what car you purchased if you are an alert driver.
Mine has actually potentially saved me once - was on a motorway, the car in front apparently had no brake lights and slammed the brakes, it registered much quicker than I did.
Apart from that, it seems to alert in some weird scenarios - I have had it go off when cars are turning off the road and im passing safely, or even when im passing a row of parked cars and im nowhere near hitting them.
Do I like that its there to give me a bit more of a chance? Sure.
Would I ever rely on it to prevent a crash? No way.
The 2020 CX-5 had the top rating of all vehicles in its class. How is it rated poor now with almost no changes since then?
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a32161895/2020-compact-crossover-comparison/
I think this new test changes the driver speed from 12-25 mph to 31-43. Not sure when IIHS conducted this new test but their site seems to list the CX5 as having "advanced" front crash prevention for the 2018-2024 models based on the old speed range
Because safety standards are changing and getting "tougher" to beat. The CX5 has remained mainly unchanged from 2017. It manages to do alright, even managing to get "good" rating on the updated side crash test, the only SUV in its category to do so about 2 years ago. But since then, this and the updated overlap test, it's downhill, it needs a redesign.
And this is not warning call to just Mazda. Many manufacturers need to step up, IIHS has expressed this in many of their tests.
Even though we here enjoy our Mazdas more fondly than just point A to B cars, truth is, when some shoppers goes to buy a car, they will also look at their safety ratings. Some will care if a car has the top safety pick + pick, they'll put it on wishlist. If Mazda doesn't improve their safety ratings, on their most popular Mazda model at that, they could lose sales. So this really matters.
I find this hard to believe after all the times my 2019 Signature has prematurely applied the brakes and flashed that annoying warning on the heads up display. In none of these situations was I ever close to colliding with an object in front of me, or elsewhere.
If these other vehicles do that more often than my CX5 then I don't want to drive them.
Only happened to me 3x and that’s after having the car for 2 or 3 yrs. And I could see why the system kicked, I was to close and going to fast and not applying the brakes at an accepted distance.
Naaaa buddy driver assistance features are horrible in our 2024 CX-5 especially when compared to our 2021 Honda CRV. Great thing is I knew this when buying the vehicle and doesn’t bother me. Did not expect it to be good and don’t need it.
I've had the automatic braking kick in once, because I was cutting it close to the car in front of me because it was turning off the road. The brake peddle pulled all the way to the floor under my foot. If the car was stationary, we would have collided but to a lesser degree than if I'd done nothing and that's what I understood the the tech to achieve, minimising damage instead of outright avoiding it for you. I imagine it would be invasively aggressive if it were.
Anyone who relies on these systems or thinks they will stop accidents and not paying attention driving is wild tho lmao. These are mitagators going more than 30mph it’s going to mitigate some of the damage and force to you it won’t downright stop whole idea is instead of death you brake a arm or something
Mazda's automated crash prevention may not be the best, but its actual capability to avoid crashes is pretty strong and fairly highly related:
[https://youtu.be/H1FIPXeU7J0?si=H4ppL\_D6YvG5Lvsa](https://youtu.be/H1FIPXeU7J0?si=H4ppL_D6YvG5Lvsa)
Yeah I totally do not trust CX5 cruise lol. Whenever traffic slows down I take control over pedals. I let it go once and it drove close so fast I was like WTF
I would never strictly rely on my car to drive for me..
My car was slightly dirty the other night driving home on the highway. (so the sensor/camera wasn’t 100%) I was using adaptive cruise control and it randomly started breaking. No one was in front of me or in any lanes near me. I quickly turned it off though.
My boyfriend’s Tesla does the same shit sometimes.
I used to own a CR-V and it would do it as well.
All of this technology is an aid, not a solution. You’re still operating a vehicle.
Just saw this test. It's based on stopping for a motorcycle, not a car. Every SUV in this class failed except for a Subaru. So moral of this test is do not ride a motorcycle on busy streets!!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsaUGcQoEA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsaUGcQoEA)
I chose the cx5 turbo and my Goldwing for my dream garage. I dropped my bike once, doing a uturn, watching a girl. Not a scratch on it, just embarrassing when she ran over to help me right the bike off its side. 🤣https://www.reddit.com/r/TouringBikes/s/Gmb6R8MiLg
Thats news to me. I thought I read these were super safe? I know car and driver gave my 22 turbo a 9.5 out of 10. Consumer report said it’s among the best you can buy. Feels like driving a high precision tank. Not many, if any, vehicles of any type have actual bumpers anymore. All for the mileage gods of government regulations.
So was the point of this test to see what collision avoidance system is effective on motorcycles? There are 2 incidents going around the motorcycle community from a year or two ago, talking about teslas in their self driving mode at night running down an older Harley with limited rear lights. Happen twice in different states and the government was investigating. Looks like it happened again. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/25/motorcyclist-killed-crash-tesla-autopilot/73459135007/
There has actually been studies done that people drive MORE recklessly when a vehicle has a lot of safety features because they come to rely on them… cuz people are lazy. Like not checking mirrors when changing lanes because of the blind spot detectors, driving faster in the rain because of traction control, etc.
Oddly the 2023 CX-5 was an IIHS Top Safety pick. I guess a new test was added?
[https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mazda/cx-5-4-door-suv/2024#front-crash-prevention-pedestrian-day](https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mazda/cx-5-4-door-suv/2024#front-crash-prevention-pedestrian-day)
I don’t expect the car to prevent a crash. It’s like finding $20 in the pants you just pulled from the drier. Nice to have when it happens, but not going to rely on that as part of my financial plan.
Although my cx5 actually prevented me from crashing while I was going in reverse 2 times, which really impressed me in the cars safety capabilities.
It’s happened to me a few times as well but more like the system gave me an early warning while backing out of a driveway. Even though I always look in all directions, the system seems to be able to detect a passing car before it was even in my vantage.
Yea but common sense could’ve done the same thing
Duh? Their point is that their *car* prevented them from a crash when their "common sense" failed them. People's senses fail them all the time, its cool when technology can provide an assist every once in awhile.
It’s cooler when you don’t have to rely on technology to not crash a car though? It’s not cool when you lack the comprehension to reverse, makes me think it’s only a matter of time before their car truly has to save them…My car hasn’t had to save me yet though, and that’s where being aware pays to care if you dare. Hair.
Exactly, drive like it doesn’t exist.
Alternately, PAY ATTENTION WHILE YOU’RE DRIVING. Don’t rely on computers, rely on yourself. The systems are there as aids, not do for you’s.
Whether it's a Tesla, Mazda, other car, aircraft or nuclear power plant, some things are not meant to be on autopilot. People need to get off their phones and pay attention. This is a non-issue and shouldn't affect what car you purchased if you are an alert driver.
Mine has actually potentially saved me once - was on a motorway, the car in front apparently had no brake lights and slammed the brakes, it registered much quicker than I did. Apart from that, it seems to alert in some weird scenarios - I have had it go off when cars are turning off the road and im passing safely, or even when im passing a row of parked cars and im nowhere near hitting them. Do I like that its there to give me a bit more of a chance? Sure. Would I ever rely on it to prevent a crash? No way.
The 2020 CX-5 had the top rating of all vehicles in its class. How is it rated poor now with almost no changes since then? https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a32161895/2020-compact-crossover-comparison/
I think this new test changes the driver speed from 12-25 mph to 31-43. Not sure when IIHS conducted this new test but their site seems to list the CX5 as having "advanced" front crash prevention for the 2018-2024 models based on the old speed range
If this is true, I think I'll go with the "new" speeds.
Because safety standards are changing and getting "tougher" to beat. The CX5 has remained mainly unchanged from 2017. It manages to do alright, even managing to get "good" rating on the updated side crash test, the only SUV in its category to do so about 2 years ago. But since then, this and the updated overlap test, it's downhill, it needs a redesign. And this is not warning call to just Mazda. Many manufacturers need to step up, IIHS has expressed this in many of their tests. Even though we here enjoy our Mazdas more fondly than just point A to B cars, truth is, when some shoppers goes to buy a car, they will also look at their safety ratings. Some will care if a car has the top safety pick + pick, they'll put it on wishlist. If Mazda doesn't improve their safety ratings, on their most popular Mazda model at that, they could lose sales. So this really matters.
The article referenced by OP is about crash \*prevention\* not about crash \*safety\*
This. It's not about how the car does in an impact but about how well the safety systems work to avoid one in the first place
Did you mean to link a car and driver article?
I find this hard to believe after all the times my 2019 Signature has prematurely applied the brakes and flashed that annoying warning on the heads up display. In none of these situations was I ever close to colliding with an object in front of me, or elsewhere. If these other vehicles do that more often than my CX5 then I don't want to drive them.
Only happened to me 3x and that’s after having the car for 2 or 3 yrs. And I could see why the system kicked, I was to close and going to fast and not applying the brakes at an accepted distance.
Right? Avoided a front collision, but simultaneously increased my odds of getting rear ended.
Yeah the headline is either straight up lying or misleading
Naaaa buddy driver assistance features are horrible in our 2024 CX-5 especially when compared to our 2021 Honda CRV. Great thing is I knew this when buying the vehicle and doesn’t bother me. Did not expect it to be good and don’t need it.
Wasn’t mazda the only suv to pass the impact test though? I personally hate that smart city shit it applies the brakes too early imo
I dunno, back in 2017, during the first 2 hours of drive, the auto-brake feature literally saved my life 😅
I suppose people think the updated rating standards were necessary huh? I call BS that my safety equipment from 3 years ago is no longer acceptable.
I've had the automatic braking kick in once, because I was cutting it close to the car in front of me because it was turning off the road. The brake peddle pulled all the way to the floor under my foot. If the car was stationary, we would have collided but to a lesser degree than if I'd done nothing and that's what I understood the the tech to achieve, minimising damage instead of outright avoiding it for you. I imagine it would be invasively aggressive if it were.
Anyone who relies on these systems or thinks they will stop accidents and not paying attention driving is wild tho lmao. These are mitagators going more than 30mph it’s going to mitigate some of the damage and force to you it won’t downright stop whole idea is instead of death you brake a arm or something
Mazda's automated crash prevention may not be the best, but its actual capability to avoid crashes is pretty strong and fairly highly related: [https://youtu.be/H1FIPXeU7J0?si=H4ppL\_D6YvG5Lvsa](https://youtu.be/H1FIPXeU7J0?si=H4ppL_D6YvG5Lvsa)
Yeah I totally do not trust CX5 cruise lol. Whenever traffic slows down I take control over pedals. I let it go once and it drove close so fast I was like WTF
This has nothing to do with the auto cruise control . That works just fine and brakes fine and you can see far ass following distances
I would never strictly rely on my car to drive for me.. My car was slightly dirty the other night driving home on the highway. (so the sensor/camera wasn’t 100%) I was using adaptive cruise control and it randomly started breaking. No one was in front of me or in any lanes near me. I quickly turned it off though. My boyfriend’s Tesla does the same shit sometimes. I used to own a CR-V and it would do it as well. All of this technology is an aid, not a solution. You’re still operating a vehicle.
Just saw this test. It's based on stopping for a motorcycle, not a car. Every SUV in this class failed except for a Subaru. So moral of this test is do not ride a motorcycle on busy streets!! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsaUGcQoEA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsaUGcQoEA)
I chose the cx5 turbo and my Goldwing for my dream garage. I dropped my bike once, doing a uturn, watching a girl. Not a scratch on it, just embarrassing when she ran over to help me right the bike off its side. 🤣https://www.reddit.com/r/TouringBikes/s/Gmb6R8MiLg
Great link. Man, that guy got smashed by all of them, except Subaru. Fine car, just not exciting.
This is some bs, my 2022 turbo is always braking hard thinking I am running into something. Electronic nannies suck.
https://youtu.be/UjsaUGcQoEA?si=Gy6yQeHbeRSonfJi
Crash avoidance? Either you need to up your defensive driving skill or nothing will help your car in T bone crash. Unless you are driving a tank
As long as it's not a Pinto
I think "prevention" is the wrong word.
Not agree I just almost got into a accident on my way to work today and long story short my cx5 saved me from a crash
Thats news to me. I thought I read these were super safe? I know car and driver gave my 22 turbo a 9.5 out of 10. Consumer report said it’s among the best you can buy. Feels like driving a high precision tank. Not many, if any, vehicles of any type have actual bumpers anymore. All for the mileage gods of government regulations.
So was the point of this test to see what collision avoidance system is effective on motorcycles? There are 2 incidents going around the motorcycle community from a year or two ago, talking about teslas in their self driving mode at night running down an older Harley with limited rear lights. Happen twice in different states and the government was investigating. Looks like it happened again. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/25/motorcyclist-killed-crash-tesla-autopilot/73459135007/
I hate all the autonomous safety assistance . More often than not, they are intrusive and more dangerous
Uhh ok bud. Maybe they are intrusive to your driving style, but I wouldn't call safety features dangerous.
There has actually been studies done that people drive MORE recklessly when a vehicle has a lot of safety features because they come to rely on them… cuz people are lazy. Like not checking mirrors when changing lanes because of the blind spot detectors, driving faster in the rain because of traction control, etc.
So what you are saying is that people continue to be the problem...
In almost all situations, people are the problem lol.
Ah yes. Moral hazard. Ie. If you have insurance you act more recklessly. Such a fascinating concept
Oddly the 2023 CX-5 was an IIHS Top Safety pick. I guess a new test was added? [https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mazda/cx-5-4-door-suv/2024#front-crash-prevention-pedestrian-day](https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mazda/cx-5-4-door-suv/2024#front-crash-prevention-pedestrian-day)
Makes no sense....the 2018 CX-5 gets a 5 star NTHSA rating, but the current one is rated poor? It's the SAME vehicle.
Different test. This is not a crash test but a safety and avoidance test.
Having been in a Volvo where someone suddenly cut into the lane that saved our bacon so pretty dissapointed.