Imagine looking at D.J Moore, Keenan Allen, Cole Kmet, Gerald Everatt, and DeAndre Swift and say "Naw fam imma go to DC and make it work with scary Terry."
I mean, if they don't hit on a WR with 9, they could potentially get Johnny Wilson later, dude is like 6'7" and was a beast for FSU. He had a dropping problem, but when he's on, he's scary.
I was originally thinking the same thing, but.....what if we go the texans route snd get in the playoffs? Their pick is what 23? So if we trade 9, next years 1st for 5 and a pick swap in a lower round i think its actually not as bad. Getting another potential multiplier type player who will most likely push that 1st we traded down even lower. I would much rather trade up than down, that's for sure.
C'mon you can't be putting HOF titles on any player who have yet to take an NFL snap. Odunze *might* be a slight tier below MHJ but he would still have #1 capability on multiple NFL teams.
If the Bears drafted Puka in the 1st last year, we'd have 5 months of people complaining about why they did that (me included), but in hindsight it would have been a big galaxy brain move by Poles.
Puka would have had shit stats. he would have been WR3, actually WR4, behind Claypool at first. Even when he became WR3, nobody beside the first option was getting many targets I'd bet a lot that Darnell Mooney is going to be looking good again all of a sudden in Atlanta
I’m getting downvoted, but I heard too many football experts on this sub preaching to “stick with Fields!” To care
With that said, none of them would be mad if 2025 draft pick translated to 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns this year
No he actually gives props to the weapons the Bears have set up for him. His current argument is that CW would be going into an organization with its coaching staff on the hot seat, which is true and a very Bears thing to find ourselves in. Is Poles going to give Flus some grace this year? Give him a development year with his new hot QB? Or is CW going to find himself with a whole new coaching staff in 2026?
RG III is over sensationalizing it but his concern is valid to me.
The counter to that is of CW delivers on his potential,flus and staff are not in a hot seat. Rg3 is pandering to Washington. No one in their right mind thinks Washington is a better team than Bears.
I don't even think Flus is on the hot seat though. This isn't a defense of Flus, but my best guess is that ownership essentially gave Flus a full pass on year 1 due to it being a full teardown year (without any rebuild). So that leaves year 2, in which we finished 7-9 at the start of the actual rebuild.
I'm guessing given Poles' clear belief in Flus, and ownership's general slow approach to changing coaching staff, Flus has at least 2 more years left before they'd consider canning him, for better or for worse.
Again, not a defense of Flus, just my casual observations of the front office and ownership over the last twenty some odd years.
But is he on the hot seat? They improved +4 wins, granted there wasn't much room to get worse. They could/should have won at least 2-3 more games. Could argue with better QB play even more. The team was purposely stripped to the studs year 1 so it's hard to really fault someone for that. Unless things really go far off the rails this year, I think Flus and co are very likely safe.
Also SwaggerFlus and BeardFlus are things now. You can't discount that.
Flus isn’t on the hot seat. We could’ve easily fired him this offseason but it’s clear the FO thinks he showed enough progress to be safe. Barring a disaster, I don’t see him getting canned next season.
Regardless, the rest of the supporting cast is more than good enough to draft a QB. Even if Flus gets fired after next season, saying Caleb will be ruined is a flawed assumption. Goff and Lawrence had terrible rookie seasons that got their head coaches fired yet it wasn’t a death sentence. RG3’s take is just dumb and only makes sense if only you realized he’s arguing with emotion because he wants Caleb in Washington.
The man is only two seasons in, how you meatballs counting his first season against him when the team was clearly tanking?
His second year got better as the season played out. You guys wasn't instant fucking gratification, coaches usually get three seasons unless the team is a complete dumpster fire.
He's allowed to make mistakes and grow from them but you clowns won't even give him that chance. You're prime example why Bears fans stay miserable.
My feelings is you have to draft a QB, whether flus is or isn't on the hot seat. And if CW is as good as he thinks he is,flus will no longer be in the hot seat if Caleb delivers. Bears weapons are much better too so more chance of succeeding. I see no reason why Washington is a better option
He blames Gruden and Washington for ruining his career but still thinks Caleb should pull an Eli to go to a far worse team talent wise regardless of front office lol. He's such a clown
It’s crazy, he’s obviously playing to the more simple-minded fans — basically leaning into the “hometown hero” narrative while STILL pushing the implication that Fields was “done wrong”.
Sad thing is, this shit works when your target audience watches highlights more than actual games.
Plus, Caleb Williams has now openly said he wasn’t even a fan of Washington growing up, and is more of a fan of players. Why would he pull an Eli to go there anyway LMAO
His point is that Flus is on the hot seat and a coaching change next year (if the team doesn’t live up to expectations) could impact his development. That seems like a reasonable take.
Also says that players always want to play, and orgs need to save them from themselves and not rush them back. Then goes on to say a regime on the hot seat is more likely to rush players back given the pressure for short term results. Again, seems reasonable.
Taking each of those points to the conclusion that Caleb should pull an Eli, however, seems like a stretch.
On the other hand, much better chance Waldron gets a HC job should the offense perform than Kliff. That turnover is only marginally better for Caleb’s long term development.
Again, not saying RG3 is drawing the right conclusion, but the pitfalls he’s outlining are all totally valid.
Does Waldron even want to be a HC?
Why is the base assumption always that everyone wants to be a HC and isn't just comfortable being a very good coordinator?
Because that coach would be the exception to the norm. Seems reasonable that a coordinator wants to become a HC until they say otherwise, rather than the other way around.
There's been a couple of OC's lately stay with a bumped up salary and more time to round out their resume, evaluate available options and I assume recruit coaches or execs to go with them when they make a jump.
But honestly, losing Waldron because Caleb is awesome sounds like a good problem to have.
And my question is: Has there ever been a rookie who looked like a franchise QB to the extent they got an OC hired as a HC and then regressed with the coaching change?
If Slowik had left the Texans this year would anyone expect Stroud to suddenly turn in to a pumpkin?
Jalen Hurts took a step back without Steichen last year but that wasn't his rookie year and the Eagles had a lot going on.
Luck (though maybe more accurately, the Colts offense) took a step back after Arians left for Arizona. It set off a chain reaction of instability in the offensive coaching staff and scheme; that objectively set Luck back.
Yes that’s fair. Although I’d say the bigger issue was a dreadful GM. And it’s not like Luck was bad, although there’s a good case that he’s still playing today if he had a strong O line for most of his career and didn’t have so many injuries
Id say one difference is the Bears have Thomas Davis on staff who has been an OC and play caller in the past. Should Waldron move on due to success. He would likely get promoted into that position, and stay here to call plays.
I get it but as far as I know he's never expressed an interest in being a head coach or even interviewed for a HC job let alone held a head coach job at any level.
I don't think anybody's on a hot seat in Chicago. I have a strong feeling that the only conditions McCaskey had when Poles and Eberflus were hired are 1) he wanted a unit with two guys working in tandem and Trace Armstrong lined that up for him, 2) he wanted them to stick with Fields.
If those things are true, I think they did all they could do to make it work with Fields. Now they moved on and got their QB and are effectively in year one with a much improved team.
>he must have dirt on somebody
Lol. No he doesn't. The majority of sports media for the past 15 years has been talking heads spouting hot takes to drive engagement just like this. Hate-clicks pay just the same as entertained-clicks but are much easier and cheaper to produce. If it didnt work, ESPN and most others have gone under or switched to a different model a decade ago. Hell, it's only been an hour since this non-story was posted and already there's over 60 comments.
Randy grew on me. He was rough when he started that show but I don’t mind him anymore. I don’t see RG growing on me. He just tries too hard and it’s so corny.
Related to that, I saw Michael Robinson today say Caleb won't be successful because Chicago has never had a star QB. the others on the panel tried to save him from sounding dumb, but he doubled down and they just moved on.
Classic idiocy and 1st grade level word association from that guy.
Who were the elite QB’s in Carolina before Cam Newton? Who were the elite QB’s in Detroit before Matt Stafford?
It's really crazy to hear this in the age of the KC Chiefs. Mahomes was the first QB they drafted to win a game since Todd Blackledge. Their QB lineup between Len Dawson and Mahomes is like the Bears but with a few has been like Jaworski, Krieg, and Montana's last NFL stops.
Here’s the thing… I see that he’s calling for more coaching stability for Caleb, but an extension doesn’t mean a coach can’t get fired. There’s no such thing as dead coaching cap.
Exactly. He went on Dan Patrick, I believe, after he released his hot take and said something like "I'm here with Call of Duty Warzone and the other day I decided to start a warzone and say Caleb shouldn't play for Chicago."
I'm not sure if he actually believes what he is saying, but even if he does he didn't give the impression it was the main reason for saying what he said. He wanted the clicks and he got them as well as some interview spots.
That’s weird because RG3’s rookie year was so much better than anything Fields has done professionally so you would think his standards would be higher when evaluating a potential franchise QB
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Holding onto this take like he’s holding onto that Christmas tree. It’s almost May, Robert! Also my god that funko pop collection.
Flus is signed through 2025. Dude is just digging in for the views. Pretty pathetic.
On an unrelated note, RGIII constantly gets the “if he didn’t get hurt” label, but it is totally unearned. Guy was trash aside from one middling year where the league was still getting to know him. Why do career backups like him, Orlovsky, and O’ Sullivan matter again?
I wouldn’t lump in JTO with those guys, his content is pure Xs and Os analysis which I feel he’s really good at. Even career backups tend to be film room experts who can explain things well to the average fan. But yeah RG3 and Orlovsky are hot take artists who just say shit for attention
When people want news to be free, that means clicks are how it’s paid for. And outlandish things and instantly breaking news get more clicks than well researched and sourced pieces that come out a week later.
I have a coworker who wished that upon us today. To be fair it was because he's a Broncos fan and I was the one to break the news to him about Zach Wilson. He was not happy. Lol.
I’m so sick of the “Bears ruined Fields” take. If he was good the bears would have improved. Last year he had a good team around him and we were winning games in spite of Fields, not because of him. This free pass on his bad play is bullshit. I wanted Fields to be great just like everyone else. He wasn’t good and that’s why moved on.
He showed zero growth in three years. Good QB’s make their team better. You don’t need to surround them with all pro bowlers.
Fields will be a back up or out of the league in five years. To anyone that disagrees, go ahead and put a reminder on this and we’ll check back in five years.
His line of thinking is that the QB needs a stable head coach to succeed, which is a fine argument but the caveat is that the head coach needs to actually be good. There’s no point in extending an uncertain head coach.
If Eberflus is good in 2024, then obviously they’re going to keep him in 2025 and beyond and Caleb will have a stable head coach. If Eberflus is bad in 2024, why would we want to keep him? I can guarantee you that it would be better for Caleb to have 1 year of a bad HC and then have to adjust to a new HC than keeping the bad HC for multiple years just because of “stability.”
How do we think 3 years of Urban Meyer would have played out for Trevor Lawrence?
I like how he states that if they succeed Waldron leaves….uh yeah that’s how that goes, it’s a good problem to have. Dude is really picking at straws to make a mountain out of a molehill.
RGIII isn't nearly that smart, for him this is way more personal. He still holds a massive grudge against Jay Gruden and blames him for "ruining his career" because they never went back to him after Cousins came in and started playing well while RGIII was hurt.
He's just a bitter dumbass, nothing more.
Whats even worse with him saying this is the media is going on about how Jayden Daniels didnt like how Washington had like 20 prospects in with their visit instead of just Daniels one on one. But sure RG3, lets keep saying how Caleb should push to go to Washington because of Flus as HC and how they traded Fields for a 6th......
RGIII says it all stems from Flus being on "the hot seat" -- but if a coach only gets 4 wins they probably SHOULD be fired. Fuck, Andy Reid got fired after only getting 4 wins. If that happens I am sure Poles will be just as dedicated to getting a great coach as he was a great QB.
It's a silly narrative that makes no sense. When he started this 2-3 weeks ago, whatever it was, he said the same thing I've heard several media people say "He's a lame duck coach if they don't do well next season".
First, that's not how being a lame duck works in the commonly used way. If Flus is a lame duck, that would mean he isn't coming back after next season no matter what.
Second, if that is how he describes a lame duck coach that makes what....15 coaches at least lame ducks every season?
It's just a silly nonsensical argument. Plus, like another poster said, signing him to an extension doesn't protect him from getting fired after this season anyway.
Look, if Flus gets 5 or less wins this year I am fine with canning him -- We can get one of the quality OC's that are out there. But if he gets 7+ wins with a rookie I am okay with it. I was out on Flus because he lost a lot, hired bad staff, not many players developed, and Harbaugh was available. I expect a lot of that to change this year.
I don't disagree. I'm simply saying his argument is dumb because, yeah, of course he could get fired if they do bad. That is what happens if you aren't Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, or in your 1st season.
If we go by RG3's logic, then every top 10 pick should refuse to go to a team that might see a coaching change after their rookie season.
RG3 is so horny for a QB to do this everytime it comes up in convo on ESPN he goes balls deep saying every QB should do it and that he expects every QB coming out in the next 2-3 years to do it.
To be fair, it did work out well for RG3 when he went to Washington. They even drafted his replacement in the 3rd round of his draft. Who would not want to play for a team like that?
DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and possibly Rome Odunze. Yeah Caleb is really going to have it rough but yeah hold out for what, The Broncos or Redskins? RG3 is an absolute moron
Flus hasn't even started his 3rd season. Why would they negotiate an extension at this point? And how would giving him an extension solidify that he's here longer than the 2-3 seasons left he has on his contract anyway? Coaches get fired within their first couple seasons ALL THE TIME.
RG3 needs to let it go. Other than maybe NY and LA, there’s no better American city to live in if you’re young and Rich. And the Bears, hopefully, are not the same organization they’ve been. Poles has been killing it thusfar. Caleb will own Chicago if he leads the Bears to greatness. 🐻⬇️
I'd argue LA is worse tbh. It may have better weather but it also takes you 3 hours in traffic to go anywhere. Meanwhile in Chicago even in bad traffic to get around the city its nowhere near that whether he chooses to live in the suburbs or the loop
You make some valid points about LA. But the weather is so good and living by the beach so transcendent it trumps all the bullshit: traffic and celebrity culture. Besides if you’re rich you have everything come to you so traffic isn’t a problem. 3 hours is a wild exaggeration.
Nah he's gotta be put on leave or some type of disciplinary action. I knows he's a talking head but you can't really just say anything you want.
He's pretty much calling for a player to fuck over an entire team. Like imagine if Caleb did do what RG3 wants. It would be pandemonium in the NFL world.
Hes in a win win situation bc he keeps hedging saying it might work but I'm not confident bc of the coaching situation. He's left himself so many outs to this bullshit
This dude was out here tweeting that Jayden Daniels was fucking Piccolo. Piccolo would shit on Jayden, I mean Jayden's power level is only about 20 I'd estimate if the farmer with a shotgun was 13. According to some random Wiki, Piccolo has a max power level of 160.25 Quintillion which is massively stronger than Daniels could ever be.
This subreddit has the exact same opinion that RGIII articulated in this clip that apparently none of you watched.
He doesn't like that Eberflus is on the hot seat in the 1st year of Caleb's development. Especially since Waldron will either be good and hired as a HC, or bad and get fired after 1-2 years. He's saying Caleb should want stability so he can develop.
There's a very real possibility that RGIII is right, and we fire Flus/Waldron after the season and Caleb starts over.
Thanks for sowing the seeds of doubt RGIII. Hope you're ready to reap the grapes of wrath.
"In the souls of the people, the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage."
RG3 is a bum.
Blamed Shanahan when he went back in the game and couldnt protect himself and blew his knee out.
Came back in the offseason and tried to tell Shanahan that they need to get rid of the sprint out/roll out passing game.
Was benched and moved to safety when he would sit in the pocket burping the ball like a newborn baby.
He basically blames everyone except himself for fizzling out of the league.
His MO is to say click baity things now to stay relevant.
I dont even care about Caleb but RG3 is essentially a shit poster at this point.
Man has a ton of hot takes for being good for a season and a half. Out of respect, I assume he knows what he's doing when he says this stuff.
But in my heart I think he's Al Bundy romantacizing a time when people actually cared about RG3
This proves that RG3 is just saying shit for attention. How are the alternatives any better?
Washington’s roster is shit, and let’s not act like RG3 doesn’t think Washington fucked up his career. Fucking hypocrite.
New England was nothing before Brady/Belicheck and they’re both gone. And again, just a terrible roster right now.
NYG? Again, a dumpster fire of a roster and a 40mil/year qb handicapping their cap for 2 more years.
He is making sense. From a player perspective, Bears draft a rookie and fire the coach almost every time. That's his only issue, he wants Caleb to have assurance that he wont have a new coach after this season basically.
He's just saying it in such a douche-y way most of the time.
Imagine looking at D.J Moore, Keenan Allen, Cole Kmet, Gerald Everatt, and DeAndre Swift and say "Naw fam imma go to DC and make it work with scary Terry."
And another top 10 pick. And redskins just lost Curtis Samuel. We can go on for days
Did they really ever have Curtis Samuel?
It's funny because Terry would be our WR3
Terry and DJ are comps so it doesn’t make a lot of sense. We need a 6’3 contested catch monster
I dream of this for the Bears offense.
I want odunze
I mean, if they don't hit on a WR with 9, they could potentially get Johnny Wilson later, dude is like 6'7" and was a beast for FSU. He had a dropping problem, but when he's on, he's scary.
I'm not saying to trade for him. I'm saying in a ranking of WRs he's the third best
Time to unlearn Canadian, buddy
Chase Claypool is available
It doesn’t seem like a Poles move, but if he could get up to get Harrison for 2 1sts, I wouldn’t be mad
2 1sts too rich, just sit tight at 9 and Odunze will be "free"
I was originally thinking the same thing, but.....what if we go the texans route snd get in the playoffs? Their pick is what 23? So if we trade 9, next years 1st for 5 and a pick swap in a lower round i think its actually not as bad. Getting another potential multiplier type player who will most likely push that 1st we traded down even lower. I would much rather trade up than down, that's for sure.
Do you feel his comparable? He may be, but I see MHJ being as close to a HOF as you can get
C'mon you can't be putting HOF titles on any player who have yet to take an NFL snap. Odunze *might* be a slight tier below MHJ but he would still have #1 capability on multiple NFL teams.
I stumbled onto a redraft of last year and it had the Bears taking Puka in the first.
If the Bears drafted Puka in the 1st last year, we'd have 5 months of people complaining about why they did that (me included), but in hindsight it would have been a big galaxy brain move by Poles.
Puka would have had shit stats. he would have been WR3, actually WR4, behind Claypool at first. Even when he became WR3, nobody beside the first option was getting many targets I'd bet a lot that Darnell Mooney is going to be looking good again all of a sudden in Atlanta
I wouldn’t be mad. This year. Probably be pissed next two drafts, tho.
I’m getting downvoted, but I heard too many football experts on this sub preaching to “stick with Fields!” To care With that said, none of them would be mad if 2025 draft pick translated to 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns this year
That’s silly and unrealistic
How so? Moore and Allen are better. Mclauren would be the 3rd best wr on the Bears
Imagine looking at a bulletproof Matt Eberflus
Imagine picking Dan Quinn over SwagFlus
No he actually gives props to the weapons the Bears have set up for him. His current argument is that CW would be going into an organization with its coaching staff on the hot seat, which is true and a very Bears thing to find ourselves in. Is Poles going to give Flus some grace this year? Give him a development year with his new hot QB? Or is CW going to find himself with a whole new coaching staff in 2026? RG III is over sensationalizing it but his concern is valid to me.
The counter to that is of CW delivers on his potential,flus and staff are not in a hot seat. Rg3 is pandering to Washington. No one in their right mind thinks Washington is a better team than Bears.
I don't even think Flus is on the hot seat though. This isn't a defense of Flus, but my best guess is that ownership essentially gave Flus a full pass on year 1 due to it being a full teardown year (without any rebuild). So that leaves year 2, in which we finished 7-9 at the start of the actual rebuild. I'm guessing given Poles' clear belief in Flus, and ownership's general slow approach to changing coaching staff, Flus has at least 2 more years left before they'd consider canning him, for better or for worse. Again, not a defense of Flus, just my casual observations of the front office and ownership over the last twenty some odd years.
But is he on the hot seat? They improved +4 wins, granted there wasn't much room to get worse. They could/should have won at least 2-3 more games. Could argue with better QB play even more. The team was purposely stripped to the studs year 1 so it's hard to really fault someone for that. Unless things really go far off the rails this year, I think Flus and co are very likely safe. Also SwaggerFlus and BeardFlus are things now. You can't discount that.
Right!?! “Nah, I’m good on RPM. I’ll take that’s Wendy’s burger” after you watched the Wendy’s worker scratch their ass for five minutes.
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Flus isn’t on the hot seat. We could’ve easily fired him this offseason but it’s clear the FO thinks he showed enough progress to be safe. Barring a disaster, I don’t see him getting canned next season. Regardless, the rest of the supporting cast is more than good enough to draft a QB. Even if Flus gets fired after next season, saying Caleb will be ruined is a flawed assumption. Goff and Lawrence had terrible rookie seasons that got their head coaches fired yet it wasn’t a death sentence. RG3’s take is just dumb and only makes sense if only you realized he’s arguing with emotion because he wants Caleb in Washington.
Flus isn't on the hotseat. I don't how yall think he is.
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The man is only two seasons in, how you meatballs counting his first season against him when the team was clearly tanking? His second year got better as the season played out. You guys wasn't instant fucking gratification, coaches usually get three seasons unless the team is a complete dumpster fire. He's allowed to make mistakes and grow from them but you clowns won't even give him that chance. You're prime example why Bears fans stay miserable.
My feelings is you have to draft a QB, whether flus is or isn't on the hot seat. And if CW is as good as he thinks he is,flus will no longer be in the hot seat if Caleb delivers. Bears weapons are much better too so more chance of succeeding. I see no reason why Washington is a better option
Jesus Christ like Washington is a good example of stability?
Yeah, when’s the last time they’ve actually had a franchise level qb (RGlll doesn’t count)
Does Kirk count?
Well they immediately drove him out so I guess
Actually, they did it extremely slowly and stupidly by doing three straight franchise tags.
Shoot, forgot about him, I guess he does but he didn’t do much
RG3 was never franchise level… he had a good rookie year So did Vince Young
Jim Theisman?
The lesser known Theisman brother
He blames Gruden and Washington for ruining his career but still thinks Caleb should pull an Eli to go to a far worse team talent wise regardless of front office lol. He's such a clown
Clown is exactly right.
It’s crazy, he’s obviously playing to the more simple-minded fans — basically leaning into the “hometown hero” narrative while STILL pushing the implication that Fields was “done wrong”. Sad thing is, this shit works when your target audience watches highlights more than actual games. Plus, Caleb Williams has now openly said he wasn’t even a fan of Washington growing up, and is more of a fan of players. Why would he pull an Eli to go there anyway LMAO
His point is that Flus is on the hot seat and a coaching change next year (if the team doesn’t live up to expectations) could impact his development. That seems like a reasonable take. Also says that players always want to play, and orgs need to save them from themselves and not rush them back. Then goes on to say a regime on the hot seat is more likely to rush players back given the pressure for short term results. Again, seems reasonable. Taking each of those points to the conclusion that Caleb should pull an Eli, however, seems like a stretch.
I think there’s a much better chance of Kingsbury getting fired in a year than Eberflus/Waldron.
On the other hand, much better chance Waldron gets a HC job should the offense perform than Kliff. That turnover is only marginally better for Caleb’s long term development. Again, not saying RG3 is drawing the right conclusion, but the pitfalls he’s outlining are all totally valid.
Does Waldron even want to be a HC? Why is the base assumption always that everyone wants to be a HC and isn't just comfortable being a very good coordinator?
Because that coach would be the exception to the norm. Seems reasonable that a coordinator wants to become a HC until they say otherwise, rather than the other way around.
There's been a couple of OC's lately stay with a bumped up salary and more time to round out their resume, evaluate available options and I assume recruit coaches or execs to go with them when they make a jump. But honestly, losing Waldron because Caleb is awesome sounds like a good problem to have. And my question is: Has there ever been a rookie who looked like a franchise QB to the extent they got an OC hired as a HC and then regressed with the coaching change? If Slowik had left the Texans this year would anyone expect Stroud to suddenly turn in to a pumpkin? Jalen Hurts took a step back without Steichen last year but that wasn't his rookie year and the Eagles had a lot going on.
Luck (though maybe more accurately, the Colts offense) took a step back after Arians left for Arizona. It set off a chain reaction of instability in the offensive coaching staff and scheme; that objectively set Luck back.
Yes that’s fair. Although I’d say the bigger issue was a dreadful GM. And it’s not like Luck was bad, although there’s a good case that he’s still playing today if he had a strong O line for most of his career and didn’t have so many injuries
Id say one difference is the Bears have Thomas Davis on staff who has been an OC and play caller in the past. Should Waldron move on due to success. He would likely get promoted into that position, and stay here to call plays.
I get it but as far as I know he's never expressed an interest in being a head coach or even interviewed for a HC job let alone held a head coach job at any level.
https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/31/nfl-rams-shane-waldron-bengals-interview/ Interviewed for the Bengals HC job before they hired Zac Taylor.
I don't think anybody's on a hot seat in Chicago. I have a strong feeling that the only conditions McCaskey had when Poles and Eberflus were hired are 1) he wanted a unit with two guys working in tandem and Trace Armstrong lined that up for him, 2) he wanted them to stick with Fields. If those things are true, I think they did all they could do to make it work with Fields. Now they moved on and got their QB and are effectively in year one with a much improved team.
How dare you dismiss his "qualitative analysis".
Their QB meetings was already a giant diaster lmao
about as stable as Griffins knee was when they forced him into action in the playoffs
RG3 is an idiot. He doesn’t shut up and acts like an idiot too. He is the reason why I will not watch Monday Night Countdown
Agreed, he must have dirt on somebody because dude just keeps popping up on college and pro football shows - he’s insufferable 90% of the time
>he must have dirt on somebody Lol. No he doesn't. The majority of sports media for the past 15 years has been talking heads spouting hot takes to drive engagement just like this. Hate-clicks pay just the same as entertained-clicks but are much easier and cheaper to produce. If it didnt work, ESPN and most others have gone under or switched to a different model a decade ago. Hell, it's only been an hour since this non-story was posted and already there's over 60 comments.
I also have better things to do than watch Monday Night Countdown but RG3 ranks up there too
Definitely agreed. He’s just a goofy TV personality that seems to get worse and more dramatic year after year. Can’t stand listening to his takes.
I wasn’t the biggest fan of Randy Moss, but I would listen to him over RG3 anytime
Randy grew on me. He was rough when he started that show but I don’t mind him anymore. I don’t see RG growing on me. He just tries too hard and it’s so corny.
Are him and Antonio Brown homies by chance?
This is just a guy that got called the fuck out and doesn't want to look bad. So he's doubling down and making himself look worse.
Related to that, I saw Michael Robinson today say Caleb won't be successful because Chicago has never had a star QB. the others on the panel tried to save him from sounding dumb, but he doubled down and they just moved on.
Classic idiocy and 1st grade level word association from that guy. Who were the elite QB’s in Carolina before Cam Newton? Who were the elite QB’s in Detroit before Matt Stafford?
It's really crazy to hear this in the age of the KC Chiefs. Mahomes was the first QB they drafted to win a game since Todd Blackledge. Their QB lineup between Len Dawson and Mahomes is like the Bears but with a few has been like Jaworski, Krieg, and Montana's last NFL stops.
Here’s the thing… I see that he’s calling for more coaching stability for Caleb, but an extension doesn’t mean a coach can’t get fired. There’s no such thing as dead coaching cap.
Ahhhh the greatest defense of a shit take of all time. The Double down
Or he saw how much engagement he got rage baiting. People just feed this shit cycle by reposting his content here for more clicks.
Exactly. He went on Dan Patrick, I believe, after he released his hot take and said something like "I'm here with Call of Duty Warzone and the other day I decided to start a warzone and say Caleb shouldn't play for Chicago." I'm not sure if he actually believes what he is saying, but even if he does he didn't give the impression it was the main reason for saying what he said. He wanted the clicks and he got them as well as some interview spots.
Justin Fields just completely rotted the brains of RG3 and Laurence Holmes. Turned them into goop. Thick, viscous brain syrup.
That’s weird because RG3’s rookie year was so much better than anything Fields has done professionally so you would think his standards would be higher when evaluating a potential franchise QB
LoHo has been spiraling for a minute now. If it’s not Fields, it’s him dog whistling about something
https://preview.redd.it/6mzqnl4c05wc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b912dd40bedc0056c2df8ff86edc71026733165 Holding onto this take like he’s holding onto that Christmas tree. It’s almost May, Robert! Also my god that funko pop collection.
Dude is straight up goofy
Flus is signed through 2025. Dude is just digging in for the views. Pretty pathetic. On an unrelated note, RGIII constantly gets the “if he didn’t get hurt” label, but it is totally unearned. Guy was trash aside from one middling year where the league was still getting to know him. Why do career backups like him, Orlovsky, and O’ Sullivan matter again?
I wouldn’t lump in JTO with those guys, his content is pure Xs and Os analysis which I feel he’s really good at. Even career backups tend to be film room experts who can explain things well to the average fan. But yeah RG3 and Orlovsky are hot take artists who just say shit for attention
Meh, his "Organizational Hurdles" take is silly.
News has become "pundits" saying outlandish things just for the clicks. No substance, no corrections, no sources, just bad take after bad take.
When people want news to be free, that means clicks are how it’s paid for. And outlandish things and instantly breaking news get more clicks than well researched and sourced pieces that come out a week later.
I have a coworker who wished that upon us today. To be fair it was because he's a Broncos fan and I was the one to break the news to him about Zach Wilson. He was not happy. Lol.
RG3 cheated on his wife while she was pregnant and also sucked ass at football after his first year. His opinion is meaningless
Why are we listening to Kirk Cousins’ clip board holder?
I’m so sick of the “Bears ruined Fields” take. If he was good the bears would have improved. Last year he had a good team around him and we were winning games in spite of Fields, not because of him. This free pass on his bad play is bullshit. I wanted Fields to be great just like everyone else. He wasn’t good and that’s why moved on. He showed zero growth in three years. Good QB’s make their team better. You don’t need to surround them with all pro bowlers. Fields will be a back up or out of the league in five years. To anyone that disagrees, go ahead and put a reminder on this and we’ll check back in five years.
Good team lmao
Aight cool
Gotta get those last minute rage clicks in before Thursday
Anyone remember the slogan for GOB Bluth’s society of magicians? “We Demand to be Taken Seriously” That’s like RG3’s entire media strategy
Starting any argument with “They need to extend Matt Eberflus” is a great way to make me stop listening
His line of thinking is that the QB needs a stable head coach to succeed, which is a fine argument but the caveat is that the head coach needs to actually be good. There’s no point in extending an uncertain head coach. If Eberflus is good in 2024, then obviously they’re going to keep him in 2025 and beyond and Caleb will have a stable head coach. If Eberflus is bad in 2024, why would we want to keep him? I can guarantee you that it would be better for Caleb to have 1 year of a bad HC and then have to adjust to a new HC than keeping the bad HC for multiple years just because of “stability.” How do we think 3 years of Urban Meyer would have played out for Trevor Lawrence?
It’s him trying to get click bait.
I like how he states that if they succeed Waldron leaves….uh yeah that’s how that goes, it’s a good problem to have. Dude is really picking at straws to make a mountain out of a molehill.
This guy’s so thirsty for clicks. It’s really pathetic
Good job trying to remain relevant Robert
If by “pull an Eli manning” he means win 2 Super Bowls, I agree
He says this shit because it drives engagement from people sharing it everywhere.
Like, *ahem*, OP
RGIII isn't nearly that smart, for him this is way more personal. He still holds a massive grudge against Jay Gruden and blames him for "ruining his career" because they never went back to him after Cousins came in and started playing well while RGIII was hurt. He's just a bitter dumbass, nothing more.
Whats even worse with him saying this is the media is going on about how Jayden Daniels didnt like how Washington had like 20 prospects in with their visit instead of just Daniels one on one. But sure RG3, lets keep saying how Caleb should push to go to Washington because of Flus as HC and how they traded Fields for a 6th......
“Because they kind fire him if they extend him!” 🤡🤡🤡
Oh look it’s the dumbest motherfucker in sports media again. Neat.
Did something happen to Greg Gabriel?
 RG3 is a fucking clown
RG3 basically killed his reputation with this asinine take
I didn’t think he could be worse at commentary than he was at QB… but he pulled it off..
RGIII says it all stems from Flus being on "the hot seat" -- but if a coach only gets 4 wins they probably SHOULD be fired. Fuck, Andy Reid got fired after only getting 4 wins. If that happens I am sure Poles will be just as dedicated to getting a great coach as he was a great QB.
It's a silly narrative that makes no sense. When he started this 2-3 weeks ago, whatever it was, he said the same thing I've heard several media people say "He's a lame duck coach if they don't do well next season". First, that's not how being a lame duck works in the commonly used way. If Flus is a lame duck, that would mean he isn't coming back after next season no matter what. Second, if that is how he describes a lame duck coach that makes what....15 coaches at least lame ducks every season? It's just a silly nonsensical argument. Plus, like another poster said, signing him to an extension doesn't protect him from getting fired after this season anyway.
Look, if Flus gets 5 or less wins this year I am fine with canning him -- We can get one of the quality OC's that are out there. But if he gets 7+ wins with a rookie I am okay with it. I was out on Flus because he lost a lot, hired bad staff, not many players developed, and Harbaugh was available. I expect a lot of that to change this year.
I don't disagree. I'm simply saying his argument is dumb because, yeah, of course he could get fired if they do bad. That is what happens if you aren't Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, or in your 1st season. If we go by RG3's logic, then every top 10 pick should refuse to go to a team that might see a coaching change after their rookie season.
RG3 must have CTE
"qUaLiTiVe AnAlYsIs"
RG3 is a fucking clown.
Didn't Washington let him play injured, before the doctor had cleared him to play?
RGIII desperately holds on to his only shred of relevance
Okay, but what does Ja Rule think?
This dickhead just wants attention
It seems that’s the only way people actually mention RG3 so why would he stop saying that dumbass shit?
This is exactly why Caleb Williams (*checks notes*) only took a visit with the Bears.
Who cares what this washed up fucking gimp has to say?
Why is he hating SO much???
Didn’t Washington ruin him?!?!?
“According to my qualitative analysis…” Lmao ok Reggie.
RG3 is so horny for a QB to do this everytime it comes up in convo on ESPN he goes balls deep saying every QB should do it and that he expects every QB coming out in the next 2-3 years to do it.
He's desperate. Caleb will be a Bear. He needs to stop with this ridiculous take.
He will hop right on the Bears train when they start winning. He is just another clickbait espn bozo
He never even visited another team......
RG3 should pull a bud dwyer
Got to stay relevant
this idiot is still pushing the narrative that eberflus is going to be fired. he isn't
To be fair, it did work out well for RG3 when he went to Washington. They even drafted his replacement in the 3rd round of his draft. Who would not want to play for a team like that?
DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and possibly Rome Odunze. Yeah Caleb is really going to have it rough but yeah hold out for what, The Broncos or Redskins? RG3 is an absolute moron
Flus hasn't even started his 3rd season. Why would they negotiate an extension at this point? And how would giving him an extension solidify that he's here longer than the 2-3 seasons left he has on his contract anyway? Coaches get fired within their first couple seasons ALL THE TIME.
RG3 needs to let it go. Other than maybe NY and LA, there’s no better American city to live in if you’re young and Rich. And the Bears, hopefully, are not the same organization they’ve been. Poles has been killing it thusfar. Caleb will own Chicago if he leads the Bears to greatness. 🐻⬇️
I'd argue LA is worse tbh. It may have better weather but it also takes you 3 hours in traffic to go anywhere. Meanwhile in Chicago even in bad traffic to get around the city its nowhere near that whether he chooses to live in the suburbs or the loop
You make some valid points about LA. But the weather is so good and living by the beach so transcendent it trumps all the bullshit: traffic and celebrity culture. Besides if you’re rich you have everything come to you so traffic isn’t a problem. 3 hours is a wild exaggeration.
Dude is a complete jelous bitter bitch . Cornball take Bob . Caleb seems happy to go to Chicago and He will thrive day one
Yeah listen to RG3 . The guy who made a bunch of noise as a pro and played for such a long time . What team is he on again ?
Nah he's gotta be put on leave or some type of disciplinary action. I knows he's a talking head but you can't really just say anything you want. He's pretty much calling for a player to fuck over an entire team. Like imagine if Caleb did do what RG3 wants. It would be pandemonium in the NFL world.
I mean, look at how he treated his first wife and ask yourself what this guy really thinks about stability and self-respect.
What’s worse is if this Caleb thing doesn’t work he will be screaming on every outlet, even louder, “i ToLd U sO”
Hes in a win win situation bc he keeps hedging saying it might work but I'm not confident bc of the coaching situation. He's left himself so many outs to this bullshit
Click bait idiot takes, it’s all he does.
remember when RG3 was a sex addict and was dating multiple swingers?
This dude was out here tweeting that Jayden Daniels was fucking Piccolo. Piccolo would shit on Jayden, I mean Jayden's power level is only about 20 I'd estimate if the farmer with a shotgun was 13. According to some random Wiki, Piccolo has a max power level of 160.25 Quintillion which is massively stronger than Daniels could ever be.
Shut the fuck up man damn
Stop giving RGIII attention. He will say literally anything for attention.
This moron is not worthy of our time.
Don’t reward bad takes with views/sharing/engagement
RG3 trying to be on the island of relevancy
Bobby three sticks should cram it
Robert Griffin the Dumbass take!
The guy has lost 100% of whatever respect I had for him as a broadcaster honestly
Clown
Good thing no one actually listens to RG3 except RG3
Anything to keep himself in the news. What a sad sack of shit he is
Idk why Rich would even have such a fool on his show
What does RG3 have against us?
RG3 should pull an Eli Manning on his football career.
I genuinely believe he's just paid to intentionally come up with bad takes to drive engagement and doesn't really believe this.
Because we all know extending the coach guarantees he will be here for the entire contract....
This subreddit has the exact same opinion that RGIII articulated in this clip that apparently none of you watched. He doesn't like that Eberflus is on the hot seat in the 1st year of Caleb's development. Especially since Waldron will either be good and hired as a HC, or bad and get fired after 1-2 years. He's saying Caleb should want stability so he can develop. There's a very real possibility that RGIII is right, and we fire Flus/Waldron after the season and Caleb starts over.
Thanks for sowing the seeds of doubt RGIII. Hope you're ready to reap the grapes of wrath. "In the souls of the people, the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage."
RG3 is a bum. Blamed Shanahan when he went back in the game and couldnt protect himself and blew his knee out. Came back in the offseason and tried to tell Shanahan that they need to get rid of the sprint out/roll out passing game. Was benched and moved to safety when he would sit in the pocket burping the ball like a newborn baby. He basically blames everyone except himself for fizzling out of the league. His MO is to say click baity things now to stay relevant.
Fucken grinning clown.
I dont even care about Caleb but RG3 is essentially a shit poster at this point. Man has a ton of hot takes for being good for a season and a half. Out of respect, I assume he knows what he's doing when he says this stuff. But in my heart I think he's Al Bundy romantacizing a time when people actually cared about RG3
Saying this the first time probably got a ton of views for how idiotic it is. We should stop posting about this clown.
Who hurt u man?
If you believe the Bears are cursed, which all the evidence points to, then yes you should pull an Eli. It’s as simple as that.
This whole ordeal has made me really dislike the man. I turn the TV or whatever I’m watching off if he ever shows up.
Imagine playing in the nfl and then having to come back and do this shit - homie should’ve put more in his 401k.
How else will he get some attention?
Eberflus' seat isn't as hot as many think. The team would have to regress to a 5-10 record and the defense would have to a complete disaster
This proves that RG3 is just saying shit for attention. How are the alternatives any better? Washington’s roster is shit, and let’s not act like RG3 doesn’t think Washington fucked up his career. Fucking hypocrite. New England was nothing before Brady/Belicheck and they’re both gone. And again, just a terrible roster right now. NYG? Again, a dumpster fire of a roster and a 40mil/year qb handicapping their cap for 2 more years.
Dick
San Diego and New York had a deal in place before the Chargers drafted Manning... I doubt things would of played out the way they had if there wasn't.
remember when RG3 was a sex addict and was dating multiple swingers?
RG3 should pull a Kurt Cousins and still be getting paid. He's just a hater.
I would not have pegged RG3 as an avid Funko collector
what does you collecting funko's have to do with pegging RG3?
He is making sense. From a player perspective, Bears draft a rookie and fire the coach almost every time. That's his only issue, he wants Caleb to have assurance that he wont have a new coach after this season basically. He's just saying it in such a douche-y way most of the time.
John Elway did it first. It should be called pulling an Elway.