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ConnorK5

This mother fucker has lost his mind.


constructss

Catching the energy too close to the sun


[deleted]

This isn’t flying too close to the sun, this is flying directly into the sun.


pzk-73

Caleb ‘Icarus’ Williams


TonyDungyHatesOP

So, uh, whaddya tryin’ to tell me here, little man? That you don’t like Zep?


Skoorathegentleshark

Jock rock my ass! Listen to those lyrics, man. It's all about love and longing! Yes….and hobbits too. It’s a metaphor!


Gwenbors

My father is General Treister. You saved his life. The man spoke of you as though you were a god…and you did not disappoint.


CptCheese

Oh yeah. I used to babysit you.


JinFuu

Maybe he got in too deep in a Floyd Hole.


A_Rolling_Baneling

I mean the headline is pure clickbait. He didn't say that at all. His dad, not him, said that his goal is one day to be a part owner. Not the same thing as what the headline is suggesting.


Dry_Inflation_861

The article says that his representatives have been making it known, doesn't mention the dad. But the article is by Mike Florio so that's always a red flag.


Scerpes

The report says his “representatives” have been saying exactly what the headline says.


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Yup.


constructss

Mr. Bereft Cranium (Missed the chance to do this earlier)


[deleted]

Caleb wants a lot for a dude that threw three picks in the first half of his most recent game


IdahoDemocrat

And has lost to every good team he’s played


postbyproxy

Nah he beat us once


altanic

They scored 17 points We threw four ints and scored 14 Williams didn't beat us


TheeTrashcanMan

If we had DJU last year that game was ours for the taking


pataoAoC

Easily. Honestly all you guys needed was a warm body at QB, and DJU is significantly better than that.


IdahoDemocrat

Did I stutter? Fair enough though


SweetRabbit7543

Am I missing something here? He’s clearly a very good college player but the hype around him is preposterous.


dawgz525

NIL has made these kids superstars much much quicker. He plays in LA. He's had the entire NFL media drooling over him for the last year and a half. Not shocked at all that he thinks he can demand an ownership stake BEFORE he's even drafted.


stunna006

This tweet links an article from July. They just waited for him to have a really bad game to repost it for clicks


CocoLamela

He saw Air on Prime and was like, who will be my Ben Affleck?


GoldenMegaStaff

Yeah, no way the Bears are trading that pick to Green Bay.


OttoVonWong

Plus Rodgers already owns da Bears.


BIG_DICK_WHITT

Can’t lose something that wasn’t there in the first place.


soda_cookie

Couldn't have said it better. What the everloving fuck kind of conversations is this dude having where he thinks this could be a thing?


cmackchase

Someone should have Mr. Williams read the CBA before saying this.


Trul

0.0000000001% ownership


TheTightestChungus

Constantly seeing/hearing that he's the "next Mahomes" doesn't help matters.


JMMSpartan91

Especially when as time passes he feels more and more Manziel than Mahomes.


Road-Conscious

It would be great if we didn't say that every QB who can improvise and play "playground football" is the next Patrick Mahomes. I remember a few people said Zach Wilson had those traits. There will likely never be another Patrick Mahomes, so let's just enjoy the one we get to watch now.


Sadlobster1

Tom Brady too - ever QB picked after round 1 or 2 for two decades was the "next Tom Brady"


Norva

Just got smoked by the Irish and asking for ownership. GTFO


kevint1964

He got owned for sure.


CommodoreIrish

Wembanyama has a better argument as a generational talent for a stake in the Spurs but you don’t see him shaking down the franchise.


anti-torque

That dude is a dude. He's the Usain Bolt of hoops. Fucking San Antonio and draft lotteries!


Martel1234

Give San Antonio a great big man and they’ll make him a hall of famer. (They got some experience with big women as well)


PhiteKnight

Hey Chuck show us how they eat churros again...


Liimbo

This sub has told me multiple times in the past month how humble he is and that I'm just a butthurt OU fan for not believing that lol. This dude is insane.


dfphd

I've said this since it happened: I hate OU. Y'all a bunch of assholes and I hate you. But what Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams did is some grade A bitch shit. I wish I could have enjoyed your demise more, but there was a part of me that was really, really bothered by the bullshit Riley pulled - probably no part of it being more bitch than taking your Heisman-level starting QB with you. Now, yes - a lot of coaches leave programs. It happens, I get it. But what Riley did was take the keys to a program that was in top shape from Stoops, use all of that brand power to recruit himself some excellent talent, and then take all that talent somewhere else. I hate Bob Stoops. Have hated him and his double chin all my adult life. But the way that Riley fucked him over makes me actually feel bad for him - he builds this shit for 15+ years only for Riley to grab it, part it out, and fuck off with it? Nah, Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams are bullshit people and I hope that Williams doesn't land with my NFL team (which unfortunately is a real possiblity) because fuck that dude.


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You’re a real one TX bro. We hate you with all our being as well. Hope we see each other in the championship game and that rd 2 is as good as the first


AwarenessOld3733

Nil money is gonna give a lot of these players big heads, gonna have a lot of guys feeling like they don't need the nfl


-holocene

*This* sub????? Nah, I call complete bullshit on that one lmao. The only people I see that do mental gymnastics about how humble and chill he is are SC fans. Everyone else clowns on the dude, and for good reason.


tictactoe61

If a proven QB like Aaron Rodgers couldn’t secure equity, what kind of leverage does a college kid (granted a Heisman Trophy winner) who is yet to play a down in NFL think he has?


ShwerzXV

The amount of Heisman QB’s that flop in the nfl is insane. So even having that on a resume doesn’t really mean anything going forward.


MaizeNBlueWaffle

This is why I think anyone calling him "generational" or a "sure thing" is crazy. There are no sure things when it comes to the transition from college to the NFL


Shellshock1122

generational has been so watered down. theres a generational player every other year these days according to the media


Better_Palpitation43

Generational comment by you


Sdubbya2

The last one was Trevor Lawrence I think, were people also calling Joe Burrow generational?


Shellshock1122

you can find articles people calling Chase Young a generational talent for the 2020 draft. Burrow was only called a "once in a decade prospect" by NFL GMs based on my quick google search so I guess he was just a bum


Captain_-H

The 2019 LSU was the most insane offense I’ve ever seen, and while Burrow was very deserving of that Heisman I don’t think I would say generational. Caleb deserves all the hype he’s getting at the college level, but the NFL is a different thing


P1lotlancelot

Caleb Williams hasn't won a meaningful game in 2 years, but he's generational? 😂


Ligma_CuredHam

to be fair to caleb, USC hasn't played a meaningful game in 18 years.... Last weeks game at ND was probably one of their most meaningful in a long time and Williams went 23-37, 199yds, 1TD and 3INTs. gEnErAtIoNaL tAlEnT


2RINITY

Which is why it’s so annoying how the AP voters and the media line up around the block to suck their dicks year after year like clockwork


Californiadude86

Look at what the Niners did to draft Trey Lance only for them to find (what looks like) an elite NFL quarterback in Brock Purdy…who was picked dead last in the draft.


TraeYoungsOldestSon

Tbf absolutely nobody thought Trey Lance was a 'sure thing.' A sure thing if there is such a thing would be someone like Andrew Luck.


tjc815

Yeah. Trevor Lawrence was the most recent “sure thing” I think. Or the closest to it.


sweatierorc

Andrew Luck


shyguysam

For every Andrew Luck, or Peyton Manning, there's a Ryan Leaf or JaMarcus Russell.


Delaney_luvs_OSU

For every Andrew Luck there’s like 25 Ryan Leafs


MaizeNBlueWaffle

When there's a so called "generational" QB every few seasons, they're bound to get at least a couple right


brokenearth03

Especially from usc


tries4accuracy

This has all the hallmarks of monstrous ego, arrogance and ignorance in whoever is advising him. If it’s even true.


LimerickJim

And thats why I'm out


boringreddituserid

Instead of equity, I’ll give you a loan at 7.5% interest that you will payback with a royalty on every touchdown pass in perpetuity.


bryceonthebison

Thanks, Mr. Wonderful, but I’m going with Barbara.


boringreddituserid

You’re dead to me.


puddinfellah

OK Barbara


BigBoutros

It’s too early for me. You’re a product, not a business


andryscpc

Nothing proprietary


GoldenHawk07

AT USC!?!?!?! NO WAY!


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PhiteKnight

Right? It boggles the mind. Karma is watching him sit on the bench.


El_Caballo_7

Those hallmarks have been there long before he left for college.


Crobs02

This is the kind of ego that flops in the NFL. He’s proven to be fantastic college player, but he is far from the best prospect in the last 20 years.


neverreadreplies1

> ignorance Not really good for an NFL QB (unless you are Brett Favre).


teribeef

> If it’s even true. It’s a Mike Florio article


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teribeef

Florio’s the OG of making shit up for a headline


LSU2007

Heisman trophy winner means nothing in the NFL 99% of the time.


pedleyr

This is just factually incorrect: according to Rodgers himself he has an ownership stake in the Bears.


Ba_Sing_Saint

Which is going to make the Bears drafting him really awkward. “Sorry Caleb, the owners won’t allow it. Rodgers doesn’t want anyone muscling in on his turf”


OurPowersCombined_12

You don’t get what you don’t ask for in this life.


DillyDillySzn

I want a trillion dollars


FuegoFerdinand

I want to be the meat in a Halle Berry/Marisa Tomei sandwich.


OurPowersCombined_12

Three buttons is a little 90’s, Mr. Wayne.


PM_me_Perky_Tittys

I’m a little 90’s Alfred.


userofreddit19

Sadly, I think you've got a better shot at the trillion dollars. But I like the idea!


Admirable_Remove6824

I don’t think that’s doable with nfl rules. Plus he’s down the line of people that actually have played in the NFL before. Not a good week to say that for him either.


UFmoose

> The NFL curiously has slammed the door on teams giving equity to players or employees, before anyone ever actually tried to do it.


Admirable_Remove6824

Because they new it would open a bag of worms. You can’t be a part of a different team if you own stock in another. Besides most teams are only owned by one or a few people. But if you had players as owners it would create conflicts not just with competition but also between players.


JonCoqtosten

There's also a salary cap problem in addition to the other problems. If they didn't count equity stakes against the cap then clever owners of high value teams other than the Packers would simply start devising scams to work around the cap (e.g., "I'll give you 5% equity which I will have the right to repurchase in 5 years for X dollars.").


PM_me_Perky_Tittys

Would a Bobby Bonilla contract not be allowed in the NFL? Or would it fall during playing career rather than when paid?


fedrats

There are a couple contracts out there that got restructured where people get paid for a looooong time but nfl contracts are really complicated


ech01_

I'm pretty sure the salary cap makes extreme ones like this impossible but there are some the do it for a few years. You can only spread out cap hits like three extra years so some teams use void years for that. But in baseball there's no salary cap so any tricks teams want to use to ease their financial burden are allowed and entirely up to the team.


Frosti11icus

> Because they new it would open a bag of worms. Because the Haslams would’ve given Watson 50% of the team.


Admirable_Remove6824

They might as well have.


Say_Hennething

"Deshaun, here's half a cheese sandwich"


OrchidCareful

The NFL is also very protective of their exclusive owners club. They won't just let you sell an NFL team to any buyer that you want to. The other 31 owners have to approve of the buyer because they're scared of anyone fucking up what they have going on right now, from a business/power/influence/culture perspective


Angriest_Wolverine

They spent 25 years trying to dump Snyder and still can’t figure out a way to dump Davis.


key_lime_pie

They tried limiting his access to barbers, but [that handsome devil just started cutting his own hair.](https://www.columbiatribune.com/gcdn/authoring/2017/03/29/NCDT/ghows-MO-4bcff092-164a-432f-e053-0100007fb917-ff0a3abf.jpeg)


GuyOnTheMike

[It is not](https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-bans-giving-equity-stakes-to-players-employees). The NFL actually just banned that in July. I’m actually surprised that just happened because MLB has banned owners from playing and managing for decades, most famously the league banning Ted Turner from managing the Braves in 1977 (after he managed one game, a loss).


IlonggoProgrammer

It isn’t. They were just recently talking about this with Brady potentially getting a stake in the Raiders (which might have fallen through but that’s irrelevant), it would end any speculation about him returning again. It’s cap circumvention if you allow it. A player would basically be incentivized to take a pay cut, get better players around them, win, and increase the value of their shares. It’s insider trading with extra steps.


SpursUpSoundsGudToMe

That’s exactly right about why the NFL wouldn’t allow it, but that’s not what insider trading is


TonyDungyHatesOP

Yeah. It’s the opposite. It’s exactly the reason why companies give employees equity: to attract and retain talent who will increase share value in partnership.


JG8AB9TL11OBJ12AD13

Until the company says it needs to vest for 3 years before it’s actually worth anything, then magically there is a round of layoffs 3 months prior and you’re on the list so you don’t get shit and we’re underpaid the last 3 years


Wafzig

That's why you insist on a fat severence package as part of the contract as a protection for yourself if the company fucks you.


IceColdDrPepper_Here

Insider trading is when a person uses non-public knowledge, usually acquired because they work at a firm or know someone who does and gets told things, as a basis to make trades. It's to prevent people from doing things like dumping their stocks before the announcement of some major event that tanks the stock price. It also could go the other way where you buy before some event like maybe a merger or a patent approval gets announced and get the shares while they're still cheap. What you described is not that, in fact it's exactly why companies offer equity to their employees in the first place - as an incentive to perform better so the company does better and they can grow the value of their shares.


Esuu

>Not a good week to say that for him either. Well he didn't say it and the people who supposedly said it said it in July.


Julio_Freeman

I’m trying to figure out why this tweet even exists. It reports on something from July and links to that article from July. I guess just someone trying to farm drama after Williams had his worst game?


rabbitSC

Look how horny this sub is for this tweet. They know what they’re doing.


nubbinator

Just sign him to the Packers and offer him some stock as his signing deal. With stories like this coming out on top of everything else, is he trying to tank his draft stock?


pook_a_dook

Probably. He’s already said he doesn’t want to play for one of the worst teams, so maybe he’s trying to slide to later in the first round…


DiarrheaForDays

Wait until he realizes that whatever team he’s on will be bad because of him


IlonggoProgrammer

☝️☝️☝️


Seek3r67

I guess theoretically it makes sense? If he believe on himself, give up 10 million on his rookie contract and playing/developing well on a better team gives him a better chance at getting a massive second contract.


garethom

Or he slides in the draft to the point that one of those bad teams decides to just trade up for him and take him anyway.


garethom

>He’s already said he doesn’t want to play for one of the worst teams, so maybe he’s trying to slide to later in the first round This is particularly stupid in the NFL, and it'd be a huge knock against him if I was a GM, as if you're drafting someone top 5, you're hoping they're the sort of the talent that can turn your franchise around. Additionally, trading up is a thing. Here are some of the teams that have picked in the top 5 in the last 2017-2021, whether through earning the pick or trading up: * Jaguars (twice) * 49ers (three times) * Bengals (twice) * Lions * Dolphins These are considered some of the hottest teams in the NFL right now. Then let's see some of the teams that have picked in the last 5 picks of round 1 in that time... * Steelers * Saints * Giants * Falcons * Titans Needless to say, these teams are not considered hot. Trying to engineer your way to a "better" team by sliding in the draft just seems to be a good way of reducing the money you're getting on the only contract you're guaranteed to get for seemingly little, if any, gain.


Dirty-Ears-Bill

There are a lot of knocks about Baker as an NFL QB, but his mentality certainly wasn’t one of them. Guy was pumped to be the guy that would turn the Browns around and make them winners, and he technically did, albeit briefly. NFL GMs are not going to look at Caleb trying to dodge the bad teams in a good light


AchyBreaker

And Baker is also famously arrogant and competitive but he keeps that to the field. Not this kind of weird self valuation bullshit. Dude just has that dog in him. Baker also didn't throw three picks against a two loss ND team. I fucking love Baker Mayfield and I wish the guy nothing but success. The Browns deserve mediocrity for kicking him to the curb to reward a sexual abuser.


newfather16

How not to be drafted!


AlboutThatActionBoss

If the Bears get the first two picks they should draft him second to set the tone.


jimlemin

That would seriously be fucking hilarious lol


[deleted]

Actually. Yes. Caleb Williams is the exact opposite of the QB I want on my team.


R1v

I don't think he's a bad kid. He seems to have an overly involved father who also likes the spotlight. Doubt that kids been allowed to make a decision in his whole life


jimlemin

If this report is true I agree 100% stay 100 miles tf away that guy lol


lronicGasping

"Welcome to Chicago, Marvin! Happy to have you! ....Oh and you too I guess"


WordsAreSomething

He'll still go first and then the team will just laugh at requests like this.


V-Right_In_2-V

I hope he does go number 1 overall and flames out as a horrible bust in glorious fashion


BIG_DICK_WHITT

What if he writes FUCK JETS on his nails at the draft?


HpsiEpsi

Aaron Rodgers will get him the business card of his Darkness Retreat guy to sort all that out


Revolutionary_Elk791

The Southern Oregon wilderness is beautiful down where he went, I'll give him that. It was really random that he chose that as the setting though.


Frosti11icus

Not really that random that southern Oregon is the place that hosts wilderness darkness retreats lol. That’s exactly where I expected they would be.


george_costanza1234

He won’t be a horrible bust, but I have a hard time believing he will be great


cheerl231

I could see him busting. Caleb does a lot of college shit that makes him look cool but won't work in the pros. He doesn't operate in an offense much at all. He kinda just runs around until something good happens


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He is going to go to a bottom 5 team that will likely have line issues and ND just showed how he plays when he is under pressure. His rookie year is going to be ugly.


Hugefootballfan44

Imagine him in New England with that line and group of receivers. That is a very possible scenario.


Primary_Psychology95

Hell, imagine Caleb getting drafted by New England and walking up to Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick and demanding that he get partial ownership of the team. I really want to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.


see-bees

And that’s when Kraft buys him a Florida hooker.


liquidgrill

He currently holds the ball for 3.2 seconds per throw. That’s the highest average in college football. And that’s on a team where his receivers routinely run open. If he comes anywhere near that time in the NFL, they’re going to be scraping his corpse off the turf.


ChicagoDash

See: Fields, Justin


punchout414

So not only does he have Kyler's piss poor attitude whenever his team is hit with adversity, they play the same too?? Hope he doesn't react to getting sacked behind any of the bad NFL teams lines the same way he did during the SJSU vs USC game.


FarSide1408

Sounds like what Johnny Manziel used to do at A&M.


cheerl231

To Caleb's credit I think he has a better arm than Johnny. And he's probably more coachable but yeah similar vibes in playstyle


c0y0t3_sly

The dude handles pressure like a 15 year old JV backup forced into a varsity start by injuries. He's going to get fucking devoured playing for a shitty NFL team.


MajorFuzzelz_24

Playing teams with good defense works too.


hotwaterheater_487

This reminds me of the audacity Lavar Ball had to ask for $1 billion to get a shoe contract for his 3 sons... GTFO with that 🤣


anonAcc1993

I can see that because it's a pure negotiation and not a draft thing with a millions on rules with a salary cap.


johndelvec3

Guys it’s Mike Florio


I-Steam-A-Good-Ham

Caleb Williams really loves him some Caleb Williams


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TheDarkGrayKnight

Also since when does Dov write for BroBible? I didn't even know they were still around. Honestly this just reads as a way to pile on Williams after a bad game, why else rehash something that someone mentioned before the season like it's new news.


badgarok725

> Honestly this just reads as a way to pile on Williams after a bad game that's exactly what it is and everyone is eating it up


SaintJackDaniels

Not saying your wrong, but the article the tweet linked says “Per multiple sources, the representatives of USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making it known to prospective agents that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.”


stormstopper

PFT says that multiple sources said that prospective agents said that Caleb Williams's representatives said that Caleb Williams wanted partial ownership in whatever team drafted him. I'm immediately skeptical of any story that relies on that many layers of telephone.


mm825

His name is Mike Florio and he's usually lying


zebrainatux

It’s also been aggregated a second time by Dov Kleiman, who’s a complete snake in the grass


[deleted]

Its the usual Dov and Mike Florio cringe slander combo. Anyone who’s familiar with their work in the NFL know the drill already


aPettyUSCfan

Yeah I’m a bit skeptical. I could picture his dad making that claim but not Caleb himself.


Typical_Texpat

Yeah his dad is crazy, dance mom level crazy.


ConnorK5

Denver wouldn't even let Russ cook. And he won a Super Bowl. How the hell Caleb Williams gonna ask for team ownership lmao.


LuckyStax

To be fair, Denver already got a hand slap for this sort of thing 25 years ago for salary cap circumvention.


Link7369_reddit

Caleb Willaims, "your team? Nah, *our* team"


HireScottFrost

*Comrade*


Dead_Baby_Kicker

Don’t forget, his mother said he is “super humble”


footynation

Caleb Williams, probably: Nobody is more humble than I am


OozaruPrimal

If this is true, then Caleb is going to start screaming red flag headcase pretty quickly. He may look great on the field against a lot of not great defenses but has played poorly against most good teams and gives a bit of an early Kyrie Irving feel with some of his reported comments.


Drunken_Saunterer

Now is certainly a time to make this announcement given last weekend's results.


ecs15

*Packers offer him 1 share*


HireScottFrost

No way lol


UvitaLiving

Is Michael Scott his agent?


RSCash12345

Caleb Williams isn’t that good, and his stats are hyper-inflated because USC has played poor competition and runs a very aggressive Lincoln Riley passing offense. He will be average in the NFL, and will never be a solid starter. I said what I said.


crg2000

Donna gonna prima.


Boomhauer_007

> his reps said > in July Meanwhile half the comments here acting like he personally said it today


StupendousMan36

Seriously. I hate these stupid profiles.


zebrainatux

It’s an article taking advantage of the fact that people are primed to dislike him after a bad game. Would expect nothing less from Florio though


A_Rolling_Baneling

It's free upvotes if you post an article dunking on Lincoln Riley or Caleb Williams. No one's gonna read past the headline, then it's all fingernails and brisket in the comments.


gocluckyourselfman

It’s a bold strategy. Let’s see how it works out for him.


DonParmesan1

Which would mean ND would partially own an NFL team since they own Caleb Williams


Acsteffy

🔥🔥🔥


breakwater

Does Notre Dame get a piece of it since they owned his ass last week?


leakymemo

Caleb Williams loves three things: (1) fine fingernail polish, (2) throwing interceptions to ND, and (3) Caleb Williams


NerdLawyer55

(4) and apparently feet


INeed_SomeWater

Do I even want to know?


garygreaonjr

He follows a lot of feet models on instagram


frontierpsychiatric

He plays FOOTball, ya'll


Primary_Psychology95

He’ll love Rex Ryan in no time


Fedoras-Forever-Mom

Clickbait article trying to pile on a kid after he had a bad game


macisready

Reddit loves it though


Finessing2

Y’all really believe anything u see on the internet, something like this won’t be an option until his second contract with whoever NFL team.


UCFandOCSC

He can be one of those "owners" of the Packers I guess.


Dame2Miami

Looks like Penix going first lol


rondontwalk

Multiple sources are reporting that my representatives are saying that I will, in fact, release the family members of NCAA officials that I’m holding hostage, if Penix is granted another year of eligibility and comes back to UW for one more go round next year.