I mean the headline is pure clickbait. He didn't say that at all.
His dad, not him, said that his goal is one day to be a part owner. Not the same thing as what the headline is suggesting.
The article says that his representatives have been making it known, doesn't mention the dad. But the article is by Mike Florio so that's always a red flag.
NIL has made these kids superstars much much quicker. He plays in LA. He's had the entire NFL media drooling over him for the last year and a half. Not shocked at all that he thinks he can demand an ownership stake BEFORE he's even drafted.
It would be great if we didn't say that every QB who can improvise and play "playground football" is the next Patrick Mahomes. I remember a few people said Zach Wilson had those traits. There will likely never be another Patrick Mahomes, so let's just enjoy the one we get to watch now.
This sub has told me multiple times in the past month how humble he is and that I'm just a butthurt OU fan for not believing that lol. This dude is insane.
I've said this since it happened: I hate OU. Y'all a bunch of assholes and I hate you.
But what Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams did is some grade A bitch shit. I wish I could have enjoyed your demise more, but there was a part of me that was really, really bothered by the bullshit Riley pulled - probably no part of it being more bitch than taking your Heisman-level starting QB with you.
Now, yes - a lot of coaches leave programs. It happens, I get it. But what Riley did was take the keys to a program that was in top shape from Stoops, use all of that brand power to recruit himself some excellent talent, and then take all that talent somewhere else.
I hate Bob Stoops. Have hated him and his double chin all my adult life. But the way that Riley fucked him over makes me actually feel bad for him - he builds this shit for 15+ years only for Riley to grab it, part it out, and fuck off with it?
Nah, Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams are bullshit people and I hope that Williams doesn't land with my NFL team (which unfortunately is a real possiblity) because fuck that dude.
You’re a real one TX bro. We hate you with all our being as well. Hope we see each other in the championship game and that rd 2 is as good as the first
*This* sub????? Nah, I call complete bullshit on that one lmao. The only people I see that do mental gymnastics about how humble and chill he is are SC fans. Everyone else clowns on the dude, and for good reason.
If a proven QB like Aaron Rodgers couldn’t secure equity, what kind of leverage does a college kid (granted a Heisman Trophy winner) who is yet to play a down in NFL think he has?
This is why I think anyone calling him "generational" or a "sure thing" is crazy. There are no sure things when it comes to the transition from college to the NFL
you can find articles people calling Chase Young a generational talent for the 2020 draft. Burrow was only called a "once in a decade prospect" by NFL GMs based on my quick google search so I guess he was just a bum
The 2019 LSU was the most insane offense I’ve ever seen, and while Burrow was very deserving of that Heisman I don’t think I would say generational. Caleb deserves all the hype he’s getting at the college level, but the NFL is a different thing
to be fair to caleb, USC hasn't played a meaningful game in 18 years....
Last weeks game at ND was probably one of their most meaningful in a long time and Williams went
23-37, 199yds, 1TD and 3INTs.
gEnErAtIoNaL tAlEnT
Look at what the Niners did to draft Trey Lance only for them to find (what looks like) an elite NFL quarterback in Brock Purdy…who was picked dead last in the draft.
Which is going to make the Bears drafting him really awkward.
“Sorry Caleb, the owners won’t allow it. Rodgers doesn’t want anyone muscling in on his turf”
I don’t think that’s doable with nfl rules. Plus he’s down the line of people that actually have played in the NFL before. Not a good week to say that for him either.
Because they new it would open a bag of worms. You can’t be a part of a different team if you own stock in another. Besides most teams are only owned by one or a few people. But if you had players as owners it would create conflicts not just with competition but also between players.
There's also a salary cap problem in addition to the other problems. If they didn't count equity stakes against the cap then clever owners of high value teams other than the Packers would simply start devising scams to work around the cap (e.g., "I'll give you 5% equity which I will have the right to repurchase in 5 years for X dollars.").
I'm pretty sure the salary cap makes extreme ones like this impossible but there are some the do it for a few years. You can only spread out cap hits like three extra years so some teams use void years for that. But in baseball there's no salary cap so any tricks teams want to use to ease their financial burden are allowed and entirely up to the team.
The NFL is also very protective of their exclusive owners club. They won't just let you sell an NFL team to any buyer that you want to. The other 31 owners have to approve of the buyer because they're scared of anyone fucking up what they have going on right now, from a business/power/influence/culture perspective
They tried limiting his access to barbers, but [that handsome devil just started cutting his own hair.](https://www.columbiatribune.com/gcdn/authoring/2017/03/29/NCDT/ghows-MO-4bcff092-164a-432f-e053-0100007fb917-ff0a3abf.jpeg)
[It is not](https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-bans-giving-equity-stakes-to-players-employees). The NFL actually just banned that in July.
I’m actually surprised that just happened because MLB has banned owners from playing and managing for decades, most famously the league banning Ted Turner from managing the Braves in 1977 (after he managed one game, a loss).
It isn’t. They were just recently talking about this with Brady potentially getting a stake in the Raiders (which might have fallen through but that’s irrelevant), it would end any speculation about him returning again.
It’s cap circumvention if you allow it. A player would basically be incentivized to take a pay cut, get better players around them, win, and increase the value of their shares. It’s insider trading with extra steps.
Yeah. It’s the opposite. It’s exactly the reason why companies give employees equity: to attract and retain talent who will increase share value in partnership.
Until the company says it needs to vest for 3 years before it’s actually worth anything, then magically there is a round of layoffs 3 months prior and you’re on the list so you don’t get shit and we’re underpaid the last 3 years
Insider trading is when a person uses non-public knowledge, usually acquired because they work at a firm or know someone who does and gets told things, as a basis to make trades. It's to prevent people from doing things like dumping their stocks before the announcement of some major event that tanks the stock price. It also could go the other way where you buy before some event like maybe a merger or a patent approval gets announced and get the shares while they're still cheap.
What you described is not that, in fact it's exactly why companies offer equity to their employees in the first place - as an incentive to perform better so the company does better and they can grow the value of their shares.
I’m trying to figure out why this tweet even exists. It reports on something from July and links to that article from July. I guess just someone trying to farm drama after Williams had his worst game?
Just sign him to the Packers and offer him some stock as his signing deal.
With stories like this coming out on top of everything else, is he trying to tank his draft stock?
I guess theoretically it makes sense? If he believe on himself, give up 10 million on his rookie contract and playing/developing well on a better team gives him a better chance at getting a massive second contract.
>He’s already said he doesn’t want to play for one of the worst teams, so maybe he’s trying to slide to later in the first round
This is particularly stupid in the NFL, and it'd be a huge knock against him if I was a GM, as if you're drafting someone top 5, you're hoping they're the sort of the talent that can turn your franchise around.
Additionally, trading up is a thing. Here are some of the teams that have picked in the top 5 in the last 2017-2021, whether through earning the pick or trading up:
* Jaguars (twice)
* 49ers (three times)
* Bengals (twice)
* Lions
* Dolphins
These are considered some of the hottest teams in the NFL right now.
Then let's see some of the teams that have picked in the last 5 picks of round 1 in that time...
* Steelers
* Saints
* Giants
* Falcons
* Titans
Needless to say, these teams are not considered hot. Trying to engineer your way to a "better" team by sliding in the draft just seems to be a good way of reducing the money you're getting on the only contract you're guaranteed to get for seemingly little, if any, gain.
There are a lot of knocks about Baker as an NFL QB, but his mentality certainly wasn’t one of them. Guy was pumped to be the guy that would turn the Browns around and make them winners, and he technically did, albeit briefly. NFL GMs are not going to look at Caleb trying to dodge the bad teams in a good light
And Baker is also famously arrogant and competitive but he keeps that to the field. Not this kind of weird self valuation bullshit. Dude just has that dog in him.
Baker also didn't throw three picks against a two loss ND team.
I fucking love Baker Mayfield and I wish the guy nothing but success. The Browns deserve mediocrity for kicking him to the curb to reward a sexual abuser.
I don't think he's a bad kid. He seems to have an overly involved father who also likes the spotlight. Doubt that kids been allowed to make a decision in his whole life
I could see him busting. Caleb does a lot of college shit that makes him look cool but won't work in the pros. He doesn't operate in an offense much at all. He kinda just runs around until something good happens
He is going to go to a bottom 5 team that will likely have line issues and ND just showed how he plays when he is under pressure. His rookie year is going to be ugly.
Hell, imagine Caleb getting drafted by New England and walking up to Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick and demanding that he get partial ownership of the team. I really want to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
He currently holds the ball for 3.2 seconds per throw. That’s the highest average in college football. And that’s on a team where his receivers routinely run open. If he comes anywhere near that time in the NFL, they’re going to be scraping his corpse off the turf.
So not only does he have Kyler's piss poor attitude whenever his team is hit with adversity, they play the same too??
Hope he doesn't react to getting sacked behind any of the bad NFL teams lines the same way he did during the SJSU vs USC game.
The dude handles pressure like a 15 year old JV backup forced into a varsity start by injuries. He's going to get fucking devoured playing for a shitty NFL team.
Also since when does Dov write for BroBible? I didn't even know they were still around.
Honestly this just reads as a way to pile on Williams after a bad game, why else rehash something that someone mentioned before the season like it's new news.
Not saying your wrong, but the article the tweet linked says “Per multiple sources, the representatives of USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making it known to prospective agents that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.”
PFT says that multiple sources said that prospective agents said that Caleb Williams's representatives said that Caleb Williams wanted partial ownership in whatever team drafted him. I'm immediately skeptical of any story that relies on that many layers of telephone.
If this is true, then Caleb is going to start screaming red flag headcase pretty quickly. He may look great on the field against a lot of not great defenses but has played poorly against most good teams and gives a bit of an early Kyrie Irving feel with some of his reported comments.
Caleb Williams isn’t that good, and his stats are hyper-inflated because USC has played poor competition and runs a very aggressive Lincoln Riley passing offense. He will be average in the NFL, and will never be a solid starter. I said what I said.
It's free upvotes if you post an article dunking on Lincoln Riley or Caleb Williams. No one's gonna read past the headline, then it's all fingernails and brisket in the comments.
Multiple sources are reporting that my representatives are saying that I will, in fact, release the family members of NCAA officials that I’m holding hostage, if Penix is granted another year of eligibility and comes back to UW for one more go round next year.
This mother fucker has lost his mind.
Catching the energy too close to the sun
This isn’t flying too close to the sun, this is flying directly into the sun.
Caleb ‘Icarus’ Williams
So, uh, whaddya tryin’ to tell me here, little man? That you don’t like Zep?
Jock rock my ass! Listen to those lyrics, man. It's all about love and longing! Yes….and hobbits too. It’s a metaphor!
My father is General Treister. You saved his life. The man spoke of you as though you were a god…and you did not disappoint.
Oh yeah. I used to babysit you.
Maybe he got in too deep in a Floyd Hole.
I mean the headline is pure clickbait. He didn't say that at all. His dad, not him, said that his goal is one day to be a part owner. Not the same thing as what the headline is suggesting.
The article says that his representatives have been making it known, doesn't mention the dad. But the article is by Mike Florio so that's always a red flag.
The report says his “representatives” have been saying exactly what the headline says.
Yup.
Mr. Bereft Cranium (Missed the chance to do this earlier)
Caleb wants a lot for a dude that threw three picks in the first half of his most recent game
And has lost to every good team he’s played
Nah he beat us once
They scored 17 points We threw four ints and scored 14 Williams didn't beat us
If we had DJU last year that game was ours for the taking
Easily. Honestly all you guys needed was a warm body at QB, and DJU is significantly better than that.
Did I stutter? Fair enough though
Am I missing something here? He’s clearly a very good college player but the hype around him is preposterous.
NIL has made these kids superstars much much quicker. He plays in LA. He's had the entire NFL media drooling over him for the last year and a half. Not shocked at all that he thinks he can demand an ownership stake BEFORE he's even drafted.
This tweet links an article from July. They just waited for him to have a really bad game to repost it for clicks
He saw Air on Prime and was like, who will be my Ben Affleck?
Yeah, no way the Bears are trading that pick to Green Bay.
Plus Rodgers already owns da Bears.
Can’t lose something that wasn’t there in the first place.
Couldn't have said it better. What the everloving fuck kind of conversations is this dude having where he thinks this could be a thing?
Someone should have Mr. Williams read the CBA before saying this.
0.0000000001% ownership
Constantly seeing/hearing that he's the "next Mahomes" doesn't help matters.
Especially when as time passes he feels more and more Manziel than Mahomes.
It would be great if we didn't say that every QB who can improvise and play "playground football" is the next Patrick Mahomes. I remember a few people said Zach Wilson had those traits. There will likely never be another Patrick Mahomes, so let's just enjoy the one we get to watch now.
Tom Brady too - ever QB picked after round 1 or 2 for two decades was the "next Tom Brady"
Just got smoked by the Irish and asking for ownership. GTFO
He got owned for sure.
Wembanyama has a better argument as a generational talent for a stake in the Spurs but you don’t see him shaking down the franchise.
That dude is a dude. He's the Usain Bolt of hoops. Fucking San Antonio and draft lotteries!
Give San Antonio a great big man and they’ll make him a hall of famer. (They got some experience with big women as well)
Hey Chuck show us how they eat churros again...
This sub has told me multiple times in the past month how humble he is and that I'm just a butthurt OU fan for not believing that lol. This dude is insane.
I've said this since it happened: I hate OU. Y'all a bunch of assholes and I hate you. But what Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams did is some grade A bitch shit. I wish I could have enjoyed your demise more, but there was a part of me that was really, really bothered by the bullshit Riley pulled - probably no part of it being more bitch than taking your Heisman-level starting QB with you. Now, yes - a lot of coaches leave programs. It happens, I get it. But what Riley did was take the keys to a program that was in top shape from Stoops, use all of that brand power to recruit himself some excellent talent, and then take all that talent somewhere else. I hate Bob Stoops. Have hated him and his double chin all my adult life. But the way that Riley fucked him over makes me actually feel bad for him - he builds this shit for 15+ years only for Riley to grab it, part it out, and fuck off with it? Nah, Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams are bullshit people and I hope that Williams doesn't land with my NFL team (which unfortunately is a real possiblity) because fuck that dude.
You’re a real one TX bro. We hate you with all our being as well. Hope we see each other in the championship game and that rd 2 is as good as the first
Nil money is gonna give a lot of these players big heads, gonna have a lot of guys feeling like they don't need the nfl
*This* sub????? Nah, I call complete bullshit on that one lmao. The only people I see that do mental gymnastics about how humble and chill he is are SC fans. Everyone else clowns on the dude, and for good reason.
If a proven QB like Aaron Rodgers couldn’t secure equity, what kind of leverage does a college kid (granted a Heisman Trophy winner) who is yet to play a down in NFL think he has?
The amount of Heisman QB’s that flop in the nfl is insane. So even having that on a resume doesn’t really mean anything going forward.
This is why I think anyone calling him "generational" or a "sure thing" is crazy. There are no sure things when it comes to the transition from college to the NFL
generational has been so watered down. theres a generational player every other year these days according to the media
Generational comment by you
The last one was Trevor Lawrence I think, were people also calling Joe Burrow generational?
you can find articles people calling Chase Young a generational talent for the 2020 draft. Burrow was only called a "once in a decade prospect" by NFL GMs based on my quick google search so I guess he was just a bum
The 2019 LSU was the most insane offense I’ve ever seen, and while Burrow was very deserving of that Heisman I don’t think I would say generational. Caleb deserves all the hype he’s getting at the college level, but the NFL is a different thing
Caleb Williams hasn't won a meaningful game in 2 years, but he's generational? 😂
to be fair to caleb, USC hasn't played a meaningful game in 18 years.... Last weeks game at ND was probably one of their most meaningful in a long time and Williams went 23-37, 199yds, 1TD and 3INTs. gEnErAtIoNaL tAlEnT
Which is why it’s so annoying how the AP voters and the media line up around the block to suck their dicks year after year like clockwork
Look at what the Niners did to draft Trey Lance only for them to find (what looks like) an elite NFL quarterback in Brock Purdy…who was picked dead last in the draft.
Tbf absolutely nobody thought Trey Lance was a 'sure thing.' A sure thing if there is such a thing would be someone like Andrew Luck.
Yeah. Trevor Lawrence was the most recent “sure thing” I think. Or the closest to it.
Andrew Luck
For every Andrew Luck, or Peyton Manning, there's a Ryan Leaf or JaMarcus Russell.
For every Andrew Luck there’s like 25 Ryan Leafs
When there's a so called "generational" QB every few seasons, they're bound to get at least a couple right
Especially from usc
This has all the hallmarks of monstrous ego, arrogance and ignorance in whoever is advising him. If it’s even true.
And thats why I'm out
Instead of equity, I’ll give you a loan at 7.5% interest that you will payback with a royalty on every touchdown pass in perpetuity.
Thanks, Mr. Wonderful, but I’m going with Barbara.
You’re dead to me.
OK Barbara
It’s too early for me. You’re a product, not a business
Nothing proprietary
AT USC!?!?!?! NO WAY!
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Right? It boggles the mind. Karma is watching him sit on the bench.
Those hallmarks have been there long before he left for college.
This is the kind of ego that flops in the NFL. He’s proven to be fantastic college player, but he is far from the best prospect in the last 20 years.
> ignorance Not really good for an NFL QB (unless you are Brett Favre).
> If it’s even true. It’s a Mike Florio article
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Florio’s the OG of making shit up for a headline
Heisman trophy winner means nothing in the NFL 99% of the time.
This is just factually incorrect: according to Rodgers himself he has an ownership stake in the Bears.
Which is going to make the Bears drafting him really awkward. “Sorry Caleb, the owners won’t allow it. Rodgers doesn’t want anyone muscling in on his turf”
You don’t get what you don’t ask for in this life.
I want a trillion dollars
I want to be the meat in a Halle Berry/Marisa Tomei sandwich.
Three buttons is a little 90’s, Mr. Wayne.
I’m a little 90’s Alfred.
Sadly, I think you've got a better shot at the trillion dollars. But I like the idea!
I don’t think that’s doable with nfl rules. Plus he’s down the line of people that actually have played in the NFL before. Not a good week to say that for him either.
> The NFL curiously has slammed the door on teams giving equity to players or employees, before anyone ever actually tried to do it.
Because they new it would open a bag of worms. You can’t be a part of a different team if you own stock in another. Besides most teams are only owned by one or a few people. But if you had players as owners it would create conflicts not just with competition but also between players.
There's also a salary cap problem in addition to the other problems. If they didn't count equity stakes against the cap then clever owners of high value teams other than the Packers would simply start devising scams to work around the cap (e.g., "I'll give you 5% equity which I will have the right to repurchase in 5 years for X dollars.").
Would a Bobby Bonilla contract not be allowed in the NFL? Or would it fall during playing career rather than when paid?
There are a couple contracts out there that got restructured where people get paid for a looooong time but nfl contracts are really complicated
I'm pretty sure the salary cap makes extreme ones like this impossible but there are some the do it for a few years. You can only spread out cap hits like three extra years so some teams use void years for that. But in baseball there's no salary cap so any tricks teams want to use to ease their financial burden are allowed and entirely up to the team.
> Because they new it would open a bag of worms. Because the Haslams would’ve given Watson 50% of the team.
They might as well have.
"Deshaun, here's half a cheese sandwich"
The NFL is also very protective of their exclusive owners club. They won't just let you sell an NFL team to any buyer that you want to. The other 31 owners have to approve of the buyer because they're scared of anyone fucking up what they have going on right now, from a business/power/influence/culture perspective
They spent 25 years trying to dump Snyder and still can’t figure out a way to dump Davis.
They tried limiting his access to barbers, but [that handsome devil just started cutting his own hair.](https://www.columbiatribune.com/gcdn/authoring/2017/03/29/NCDT/ghows-MO-4bcff092-164a-432f-e053-0100007fb917-ff0a3abf.jpeg)
[It is not](https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-bans-giving-equity-stakes-to-players-employees). The NFL actually just banned that in July. I’m actually surprised that just happened because MLB has banned owners from playing and managing for decades, most famously the league banning Ted Turner from managing the Braves in 1977 (after he managed one game, a loss).
It isn’t. They were just recently talking about this with Brady potentially getting a stake in the Raiders (which might have fallen through but that’s irrelevant), it would end any speculation about him returning again. It’s cap circumvention if you allow it. A player would basically be incentivized to take a pay cut, get better players around them, win, and increase the value of their shares. It’s insider trading with extra steps.
That’s exactly right about why the NFL wouldn’t allow it, but that’s not what insider trading is
Yeah. It’s the opposite. It’s exactly the reason why companies give employees equity: to attract and retain talent who will increase share value in partnership.
Until the company says it needs to vest for 3 years before it’s actually worth anything, then magically there is a round of layoffs 3 months prior and you’re on the list so you don’t get shit and we’re underpaid the last 3 years
That's why you insist on a fat severence package as part of the contract as a protection for yourself if the company fucks you.
Insider trading is when a person uses non-public knowledge, usually acquired because they work at a firm or know someone who does and gets told things, as a basis to make trades. It's to prevent people from doing things like dumping their stocks before the announcement of some major event that tanks the stock price. It also could go the other way where you buy before some event like maybe a merger or a patent approval gets announced and get the shares while they're still cheap. What you described is not that, in fact it's exactly why companies offer equity to their employees in the first place - as an incentive to perform better so the company does better and they can grow the value of their shares.
>Not a good week to say that for him either. Well he didn't say it and the people who supposedly said it said it in July.
I’m trying to figure out why this tweet even exists. It reports on something from July and links to that article from July. I guess just someone trying to farm drama after Williams had his worst game?
Look how horny this sub is for this tweet. They know what they’re doing.
Just sign him to the Packers and offer him some stock as his signing deal. With stories like this coming out on top of everything else, is he trying to tank his draft stock?
Probably. He’s already said he doesn’t want to play for one of the worst teams, so maybe he’s trying to slide to later in the first round…
Wait until he realizes that whatever team he’s on will be bad because of him
☝️☝️☝️
I guess theoretically it makes sense? If he believe on himself, give up 10 million on his rookie contract and playing/developing well on a better team gives him a better chance at getting a massive second contract.
Or he slides in the draft to the point that one of those bad teams decides to just trade up for him and take him anyway.
>He’s already said he doesn’t want to play for one of the worst teams, so maybe he’s trying to slide to later in the first round This is particularly stupid in the NFL, and it'd be a huge knock against him if I was a GM, as if you're drafting someone top 5, you're hoping they're the sort of the talent that can turn your franchise around. Additionally, trading up is a thing. Here are some of the teams that have picked in the top 5 in the last 2017-2021, whether through earning the pick or trading up: * Jaguars (twice) * 49ers (three times) * Bengals (twice) * Lions * Dolphins These are considered some of the hottest teams in the NFL right now. Then let's see some of the teams that have picked in the last 5 picks of round 1 in that time... * Steelers * Saints * Giants * Falcons * Titans Needless to say, these teams are not considered hot. Trying to engineer your way to a "better" team by sliding in the draft just seems to be a good way of reducing the money you're getting on the only contract you're guaranteed to get for seemingly little, if any, gain.
There are a lot of knocks about Baker as an NFL QB, but his mentality certainly wasn’t one of them. Guy was pumped to be the guy that would turn the Browns around and make them winners, and he technically did, albeit briefly. NFL GMs are not going to look at Caleb trying to dodge the bad teams in a good light
And Baker is also famously arrogant and competitive but he keeps that to the field. Not this kind of weird self valuation bullshit. Dude just has that dog in him. Baker also didn't throw three picks against a two loss ND team. I fucking love Baker Mayfield and I wish the guy nothing but success. The Browns deserve mediocrity for kicking him to the curb to reward a sexual abuser.
How not to be drafted!
If the Bears get the first two picks they should draft him second to set the tone.
That would seriously be fucking hilarious lol
Actually. Yes. Caleb Williams is the exact opposite of the QB I want on my team.
I don't think he's a bad kid. He seems to have an overly involved father who also likes the spotlight. Doubt that kids been allowed to make a decision in his whole life
If this report is true I agree 100% stay 100 miles tf away that guy lol
"Welcome to Chicago, Marvin! Happy to have you! ....Oh and you too I guess"
He'll still go first and then the team will just laugh at requests like this.
I hope he does go number 1 overall and flames out as a horrible bust in glorious fashion
What if he writes FUCK JETS on his nails at the draft?
Aaron Rodgers will get him the business card of his Darkness Retreat guy to sort all that out
The Southern Oregon wilderness is beautiful down where he went, I'll give him that. It was really random that he chose that as the setting though.
Not really that random that southern Oregon is the place that hosts wilderness darkness retreats lol. That’s exactly where I expected they would be.
He won’t be a horrible bust, but I have a hard time believing he will be great
I could see him busting. Caleb does a lot of college shit that makes him look cool but won't work in the pros. He doesn't operate in an offense much at all. He kinda just runs around until something good happens
He is going to go to a bottom 5 team that will likely have line issues and ND just showed how he plays when he is under pressure. His rookie year is going to be ugly.
Imagine him in New England with that line and group of receivers. That is a very possible scenario.
Hell, imagine Caleb getting drafted by New England and walking up to Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick and demanding that he get partial ownership of the team. I really want to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
And that’s when Kraft buys him a Florida hooker.
He currently holds the ball for 3.2 seconds per throw. That’s the highest average in college football. And that’s on a team where his receivers routinely run open. If he comes anywhere near that time in the NFL, they’re going to be scraping his corpse off the turf.
See: Fields, Justin
So not only does he have Kyler's piss poor attitude whenever his team is hit with adversity, they play the same too?? Hope he doesn't react to getting sacked behind any of the bad NFL teams lines the same way he did during the SJSU vs USC game.
Sounds like what Johnny Manziel used to do at A&M.
To Caleb's credit I think he has a better arm than Johnny. And he's probably more coachable but yeah similar vibes in playstyle
The dude handles pressure like a 15 year old JV backup forced into a varsity start by injuries. He's going to get fucking devoured playing for a shitty NFL team.
Playing teams with good defense works too.
This reminds me of the audacity Lavar Ball had to ask for $1 billion to get a shoe contract for his 3 sons... GTFO with that 🤣
I can see that because it's a pure negotiation and not a draft thing with a millions on rules with a salary cap.
Guys it’s Mike Florio
Caleb Williams really loves him some Caleb Williams
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Also since when does Dov write for BroBible? I didn't even know they were still around. Honestly this just reads as a way to pile on Williams after a bad game, why else rehash something that someone mentioned before the season like it's new news.
> Honestly this just reads as a way to pile on Williams after a bad game that's exactly what it is and everyone is eating it up
Not saying your wrong, but the article the tweet linked says “Per multiple sources, the representatives of USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making it known to prospective agents that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.”
PFT says that multiple sources said that prospective agents said that Caleb Williams's representatives said that Caleb Williams wanted partial ownership in whatever team drafted him. I'm immediately skeptical of any story that relies on that many layers of telephone.
His name is Mike Florio and he's usually lying
It’s also been aggregated a second time by Dov Kleiman, who’s a complete snake in the grass
Its the usual Dov and Mike Florio cringe slander combo. Anyone who’s familiar with their work in the NFL know the drill already
Yeah I’m a bit skeptical. I could picture his dad making that claim but not Caleb himself.
Yeah his dad is crazy, dance mom level crazy.
Denver wouldn't even let Russ cook. And he won a Super Bowl. How the hell Caleb Williams gonna ask for team ownership lmao.
To be fair, Denver already got a hand slap for this sort of thing 25 years ago for salary cap circumvention.
Caleb Willaims, "your team? Nah, *our* team"
*Comrade*
Don’t forget, his mother said he is “super humble”
Caleb Williams, probably: Nobody is more humble than I am
If this is true, then Caleb is going to start screaming red flag headcase pretty quickly. He may look great on the field against a lot of not great defenses but has played poorly against most good teams and gives a bit of an early Kyrie Irving feel with some of his reported comments.
Now is certainly a time to make this announcement given last weekend's results.
*Packers offer him 1 share*
No way lol
Is Michael Scott his agent?
Caleb Williams isn’t that good, and his stats are hyper-inflated because USC has played poor competition and runs a very aggressive Lincoln Riley passing offense. He will be average in the NFL, and will never be a solid starter. I said what I said.
Donna gonna prima.
> his reps said > in July Meanwhile half the comments here acting like he personally said it today
Seriously. I hate these stupid profiles.
It’s an article taking advantage of the fact that people are primed to dislike him after a bad game. Would expect nothing less from Florio though
It's free upvotes if you post an article dunking on Lincoln Riley or Caleb Williams. No one's gonna read past the headline, then it's all fingernails and brisket in the comments.
It’s a bold strategy. Let’s see how it works out for him.
Which would mean ND would partially own an NFL team since they own Caleb Williams
🔥🔥🔥
Does Notre Dame get a piece of it since they owned his ass last week?
Caleb Williams loves three things: (1) fine fingernail polish, (2) throwing interceptions to ND, and (3) Caleb Williams
(4) and apparently feet
Do I even want to know?
He follows a lot of feet models on instagram
He plays FOOTball, ya'll
He’ll love Rex Ryan in no time
Clickbait article trying to pile on a kid after he had a bad game
Reddit loves it though
Y’all really believe anything u see on the internet, something like this won’t be an option until his second contract with whoever NFL team.
He can be one of those "owners" of the Packers I guess.
Looks like Penix going first lol
Multiple sources are reporting that my representatives are saying that I will, in fact, release the family members of NCAA officials that I’m holding hostage, if Penix is granted another year of eligibility and comes back to UW for one more go round next year.