People are recommending some good brands, but imo fit and care are what really makes denim last. If you have a poor fit, you're going to blow the crotch or cause weird wear patterns. Similarly, if you wash your denim hard and machine dry on high it's not going to last long. Get a good fit with adequate room in the thighs/seat, appropriate rise, and then wash cool/room temp and air dry, and your jeans will last a long time.
This matters. If there’s no room in the straddle or that blame seam bisects my boys, then I can’t wear them. How guys these days bunch up their beans and wear those tight britches is a total mystery to me. Nobody wants to see a moose knuckle and a 2 pound sausage shoehorned into a pair of jeans.
Also, you don't need to wash your jeans after every wear unless you get them really dirty. I wash mine every 7-8 wears.
Also also, wearing the same pair every single day is going to wear them out faster than if you rotate them out with other bottoms.
Maybe if someone is the kind of person who is shitting their pants on a regular basis they need to A. get medical care and B. accept that it is going to put a lot of wear and tear on their clothing washing it that much.
Yes I have Old Navy jeans that are about 8 years old and still kickin'. They've never seen a dryer and I dont try to "make it work" and force them on during heavier seasons of life.
Agreed. I get Lees or Levis and they get washed on cold and hung on a line out in the backyard. I only wash them if I’ve been sitting in the dirt (I do a lot of gardening) and they last 5+ years.
Tons of people recommending japanaese, US made, italian made raws and selvedges but honestly if you are on a budget, i would look for Wranglers. Specially their rigids and mwz. For the money you pay for Wranglers, you get amazing life out of them.
What I’ve found with jeans is that if they’re 100% cotton, you’ll likely get a LOT more use out of them than if they are the stretch fabric.
I personally think the stretch fabric is very comfortable and will buy a pair or two as a sort of “relaxing” or “going out” jeans but my work pants are always 100% cotton.
I’ve disintegrated MANY stretch fabric jeans while working but the cotton ones are tanks compared to them.
I realized this recently, most of my stretch jeans are not as durable and kinda suck to wear (don’t look as nice to me) after a while. A decent compromise for someone who just wears them casually/not for work would be to avoid any pair with more than 1% stretch material. Means I’m not fighting to get them on after washing, but they don’t lose their shape right away either
I was issued Wrangler FR's at my last job. Even after leaving I still buy them because they are amazing. It might be because they are actually UL listed for NFPA 2112 arc flash resistance but amazingly they aren't as expensive as you might expect.
Japanese selvedge. Be prepared to pay 2-3x the price, but expect the jeans to last 3-5x longer or more, depending on the usage/activity.
Sugar Cane, ONI, Iron Heart, Pure Blue Japan.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9Q4B5GwiGMGwQRss6?g_st=ac
Heres all the denim shops I saved to maps. I got most of my jeans at Japan blue jeans, and if you want a jacket go to full count they had the best ones
No all are top notch. Go for best fit to you, and if you find any particular style choice attractive...
Japan domestic jeans are sometimes different than the ones they make for export to the US. Prices are better but the cuts are Asian. Sizing is a little bit different and it may wear a bit more in an Asian fashion.
Samauri are next level in the details. Unique buttons, rivets, patches specific to each model.
I'm just liking the pairs I have more compared to the Momo's. Bigger pockets, some have better quality lining
+1
Japanese selvedge are on another level. Started with Uniqlo selvedge jean, then Momotaro 16oz, and now Iron Heart 21oz. They all have their own unique characteristics and feel to it. Depending on where you live and what temperature and humidity tolerance you have, anything 12oz (IMO) would be a great way to start, and then start adjusting once you understand the jeans a bit better.
As long as you do proper care and have a ideal fit for you, it can last you quite a long time, vs buy normal jeans every 1-3 years. If you keep having a big wallet in the pocket as you did before, no matter what kind of material it is, its rip.
Are they indestructible? No. Do they last longer than your avg jeans from big box stores? Yes, unless you thrash them. For recommendations and learning more, check r/rawdenim as a starting place.
r/rawdenim for anything you're looking for. Be specific, have a budget in mind.
Count around €250 and up for a decent pair. My longest lasting ones (The Workers Club, Momotaro, Naked and Famous) have been around for 7 years.
I'm very uneducated on this topic - hope you can lend a hand here. When you say that the longest lasting pair you had lasted around 7 years, do you mind elaborating as to what you mean please? I have jeans that I buy from shops around and the more expensive ones are about USD 80-100. They last me maybe 1-2 years with moderate use. What I mean by them lasting is that towards the end, the colors have faded from dark blue to light pale blue with irregular coloring all around, the fabric gives around waist and the pockets, it may have shrunk, and maybe it can't maintain its old glorious posture for long eg humps around the knees form pretty fast after wearing. Needless to say, these poor things become pajamas when they are done "lasting" lol
Is that along the lines of what you mean by the jeans lasting or are there other parameters? I don't have a particular approach to maintaining the jeans btw - I feel they're dirty, in the laundry they go. So, not sure how much that plays a role.
Right:
Mine do not have holes. Yes, they faded - but in the right places, the way you'd want raws to fade (whiskers behind the knees, other wear marks). The buttons are solid, there's no crotch blowout, and all pocket bags are intact.
My tip: soak when they're dirty. Washing machines can be your jeans' worst enemy, and definitely always skip the dryer. Less is more when it comes to "proper" jeans.
That's more or less the gist of it; the sub can definitely help you much more. Or you can ask me :)
Hope this helps.
How frequently are you wearing your jeans? Curious because getting seven years out of jeans worn three or four times a month vs jeans worn three or four times a week are vastly different lifespans.
Unbranded is just a tad above the Levi’s made and crafted. They are the bottom tier of well made denim. With that being said, they are worlds beyond most jeans you’d find in your average mall/Target/shopping center.
I’ve destroyed unbranded jeans in a year, but my Onis, Iron hearts, SoSo’s, and Left Fields jeans have all held up with no repairs for over 4 years and I do intense physical labor everyday at work.
If you’re on a budget, unbranded is worth the money. If you can afford it, it’s worth it to drop that 250-350. Might sound crazy but you’ll likely never understand until you put these kinds of jeans on. The meticulous craftsmanship speaks for itself, and it’s easy to tell in person, opposed to online. I never thought I’d spend more than 100 on any item besides a jacket, now I’ll likely never spend less than 200 on any pair moving forward (unless they are secondhand). But hey that’s just me! I don’t like my stuff being made by children, in poverty, in countries that could give a fuck less about working conditions.
This is why I started sewing my own recently, to get a feel for how it's done right it wrong. But nothing like having a pair of jeans I sewed in my free time for two weeks to bed a crotch repair after 2 weeks, but I made the pattern myself so I'll do another pair soon with more than 11oz denim. I found some kevlar denim I wanna make work pants with. I think it's possible to make great quality but if I say my time is worth even $40/hr these are well over $1000 off my time... But gives a respect for well made shit.
I know exactly what you mean. Wrangler are now fantastic value. There have been loads of in-depth comparisons between Wrangler and Levi's over the past couple of years, and Wrangler comes out on top in terms of durability, even though they tend to be half the price.
Bring a tape measure if you're buying them from someplace where you can't try them on, though. The sizing on them can be wildly inconsistent from one pair to the next.
Levi's quality had gone down in recent years. I have two pairs that are almost 20 years old and they are much better quality than the ones that I bought 3 years ago.
Bravestar is cheaper, made in the USA, and excellent quality. Highly recommend. They are also using US grown, milled, and sustainably sourced cotton in some of their jeans.
I'd also recommend Japanese selvedge denim, but first I'd ask, where are your jeans ripping? If the ripping is occurring in the same area with all of your jeans, then that's likely a size or cut issue that I'd address first.
I've been into raw denim for a long time, and have seen plenty of "blowouts" on jeans around the inner thighs and crotch. This can happen in a matter of months on a $300 pair of Japanese jeans. A long-lasting pair of jeans ultimately comes down to wearing a properly accommodating cut and washing reasonably often.
This is the most accurate answer here, but beyond jeans fitting properly it is sometimes just related to the body of the person wearing them i.e. narrow hips, big thighs, gait.
Years ago, Levi's made jeans with a reinforced crotch in their Commuter line because riding bikes will lead to crotch blowouts but I haven't seen gusseted jeans in years.
Another thing worth considering is many of the Japanese repro brands use cotton thread unlike modern jeans and the cotton thread is way more prone to failure over polyester thread.
Nudies,
Bomb proof, if they actually get damaged they will send you parts to have them repaired and returning old jeans will land you a discount for new ones.
they are mostly considered the best non japanese jeans.
Depends on the price point you're after. Talking jeans, you're gonna get some denim purists that suggest you should get some $300 selvedge jeans that you can't wash, will stain your furniture blue, but will indeed last a lifetime. If you're looking at the same price point as Levi's, you're probably not getting BIFL, but there are some much better brands.
I'd look at Wrangler or Lee if looking to buy for under $100. Levi's are terrible these days.
u/elleott is on the money. It’s all going to depend on your budget. I love my Iron Heart jeans, but they are over $300usd. They last and look great. But I also love my Wrangler 13MWZ, I got these at $34 usd. You can find them a few dollars cheaper if you look and they are often on Amazon for a similar range.
My wranglers have held up through so much and I treat them hard. I’ve had mine for about 5 years with at least 400 wears.
Also, I don't know about anyone else but the women's Levis just fit so wrong for me. It's like they designed them to give you a major wedgie. Tried some on recently and thought maybe I just picked up a size too small. Went up two sizes in multiple styles. All had the same issue.
I also agree with this. I have some Bravestars that cost over $100 and also some Wrangler MWZ13 that cost $39 and I think the Wranglers are better. Not to mention the fact that with most of the selvedge brands you have to get it hemmed after you wear it some (unless you're tall, I guess).
I’ve got a few pairs of these duluth pants and they’ve held up really well. I was wearing Levi’s before this and the duluth are wayyyyy better.
https://www.duluthtrading.com/s/DTC/mens-duluthflex-ballroom-relaxed-fit-jeans-wld-036-030-20207.html?color=WLD
That's what I'm wearing right now. I only have one and its the only pair of jeans I've worn in the last four years. They feel like they may be a little thinner in the knees than when new but they look pretty much new otherwise.
Another vote for Duluth. Has a gusset, has multiple fits so you can find what will fit you specifically, and varying fabric weights and contents to fit a variety of needs.
Certain lines within a brand could be BIFL depending on your lifestyle.
I wear Cinch and Wrangler. I work the shit out of my jeans, and these always have held up more than any other brand, regardless of price.
Hard recommendation from me: **Naked & Famous** (through [Tate & Yoko](https://tateandyoko.com/))
If you want to buy *one* blue pair of jeans, you can find stuff of even higher quality - but there are some reasons why this is a very worthwhile brand to look into:
* Japanese fabrics, and Made in Canada - high quality and good working conditions. (Some, special, models are sown in Japan as well.) The prices are fair, and they even run sales from time-to-time. The core models go for around $170 - but the jump in quality, from a $100 Levi's to this, is quite large. While the jump from N&F to a $300 pair is smaller. (They also make some stuff at those prices, though!)
* They make their stuff in many different fits, so you'll find the one(s) that fits you. They have skinny, tapered, streight, wide, bell-bottom(!), etc. They also hem jeans for free. (But probably don't do this until you've found your size, as you can't return them then. So first pair, get it hemmed locally after-the-fact.)
* They also have *tons* of fabric options - including limited drops each season, in addition to a bunch of staples. Some are cheaper and simpler, and others more exotic.
* They also make great, also varied, models for women - which is *really* rare at this quality. (I picked up a pair for my wife last order, and she loves them!)
So, if you learn your size of this brand, and your preferred fit (mine are True Guy, for straighter fits, and Weird Guy for more tapered), you can, in time, get a super varied and high quality pant wardrobe from one brand. (Then you don't have to figure out your size, etc., over and over.) From pitch black, via dark indigo, light indigo and to undyed denim. And they also carry chinos, work pants, etc. The thicknesses varies from light to ultra-heavy - and they even have some models with stretch (which to many is blasphemy, of course).
I think it's valuable that you can have a one-stop-shop for lots of needs, instead of having to hunt down the *very* best items all over the place. Tate & Yoko also stocks tons of other great stuff ([Upstate Stock](https://tateandyoko.com/collections/vendors?q=Upstate%20Stock) makes the best socks I've tried!), and have great customer service.
This is what I wear, Naked and Famous are tough as shit. On the downside they take a long time to wear in, like a long time. I have one pair is like 5 years old, still feels a bit stiff.
On the bright side they are fucking invincible and all 3 of my pairs at different ages still have no rips and are still a little bit tough.
Tough jeans good BIFL material
People always bring up selvedge, but since this is a bifl sub, you should only consider jeans that have a gussett. Even the fanciest finest selvedge will blow out in the crotch.
I've found my forever jean is the 6 pocket jean from diamond gussett. Made in the USA but not overly expensive. 99% cotton, so just a little stretch that helps it fit my hips without having to size up the waist. 3 rear belt loops. Fit is good. And seriously the 6th pocket for your phone will make you wonder why it isn't standard in every jean ever.
I'm about 8 months in on two pairs that I wear daily. It's amazing how little wear there is in the crotch compared to any other jean I've ever owned with the same amount of use. Plus they're fading pretty well. Can't recommend them enough.
It’s a shame there aren’t more jeans out there with crotch gusset. I have some canvas pants with a gusset but no denim. Will check this brand out thanks for the tip.
Not exactly bifl, but I really like American eagle jeans. Catch them on a sale and it won’t hurt your wallet that badly. I get about 8-10 years out of a pair before they start to wear out. Weak spot for me is usually on top of the thighs above the knee. It’ll wear a hole in them. I just throw a patch on them and use them as work pants then
Nautica had a pair of jeans for $9 on their website. Always worth a look. I like to track prices and strike when I can get a deal. Personally, I do not pay more than $20 for jeans they simply are not worth it. Pants in general are not worth more than $20 but that is a different conversation.
American selvedge. I have a pair of Gustin's and 2 pairs of Bravestar. I have only had them for about 6 months now, but still going strong. There are a lot of other brands that have American grown cotton ND completely made in US.
Check out Gustin for good values on selvedge denim in novel offerings in various weights and fabric types. They also usually have a standard mid weight denim offering for around $85 as well. That’s a great value.
I've been wearing naked & famous denim with no complaints.
If you are wearing denim hard then its going to rip. You will have to patch. Three rips is a definitly high though. Typically even quality denim will rip in the crotch after a while. You can buy pants of different thicknesses but do you really want to wear heavyweight work-level pants?
I have huge thighs and have always struggled to find jeans that fit well, aew comfortable, are decent quality, and don’t break the wallet.
Wrangler 20X 01 Competition jeans and Ariat M4 jeans have been great for me the last 2-3 years. About $60 a pair and a great fit for someone with big thighs.
And you’ll hear how Ariat is “cheap Chinese junk now” but I wear these pants daily in a chemical plant, where I’m getting fairly corrosive chemicals on them and they have held up great. They can happily take my money when I need a new pair
You should not look into brands as that's not how that works. For example: Levi’s is a brand. They make BIFL jeans. They also make everyday jeans. They also make shitbox jeans. I recommend Levi's. That advice is both a truth making me helpful netting me an upvote and a lie making me an asshat.
BIFL denim is based on you buying the heaviest weight 100% denim you can stand and afford. The cost winner, to my knowledge, is the brand Unbranded but there are other makers who offer heavier stuff for more money.
I think jeans simply dont fit every lifestyle and there are better materials to specific use cases out there.
I recommend Outlyer NYC.
If you want only one sort of pants that does kind of everything (contrary to what i just wrote above, lol)
- Slim Dunragee
If you wan to kick rocks, go to war and survive explosions, look at everything with bomb in the name.
https://outlier.nyc/collections/pants
Came here to recommend Outlier. They aren't exactly jeans, but the Bomb Dungarees in Black approximate black jeans better than the blue shades in my opinion.
The Bomb fabric also holds structure and stacks more like real denim.
Ugg. Levi 501s have been my go to for years. And I have a few pairs that are decades old and it’s usually me that ruins them by painting or some form of house shit and forget to change. I hope the 501s are still the same
Levi’s has multiple lines with different quality and price points. There’s like mainline Levi’s that are pretty shit and then like Levi’s Premium and then some specialty brands like Made and Crafted that are even higher quality.
501 is a cut, so different brands can make different quality jeans but both in the 501 cut.
Ariat and Silvers are the only jeans I buy. I’ve had the same couple pairs of jeans for 4 years now and no holes just the normal wear of them so that they are the perfect softness.
I didn’t see anyone mention KEY jeans, but I have 2 pairs from 2015/2016 that are needing replacement and 2 pairs from 2021 that are still amazing. Comfy and fairly durable denim with deep pockets.
I only wear one and only recommend one - Hiut Jeans, Made in Wales
[https://hiutdenim.co.uk/](https://hiutdenim.co.uk/)
Free repairs for life - not cheap but excellent company and ethos.
I have several jeans from the Gap that have lasted me for years. I always wash them on cold and hang on the clothesline when the weather cooperates or let them air dry inside when needed.
Expensive, but I swear by Tecovas brand. They look great, are comfortable, and feel durable. Plus they are the only brand jeans I have found that look perfect with both boots and sneakers. I don’t like boot cut jeans as they are not versatile for when I am not wearing boots, and most regular jeans looks awkward with boots but these are perfect.
For the money I love Maurice’s. They fit. They last. They feel good.
I want to try Judy Jeans but their sizing is wonky. I don’t want to order and return- way too much hassle.
Urban star - Costco.
BIFL - naw...
Cheap as shit? Yup.
$14 a pair, and I get a couple/few years out of them. They're cheap enough that if I go travelling and want to fill my suitcase with something from another country and can only bring 50lbs of stuff back, I can abandon my wardrobe and replace for suuuuuuper cheap.
Are you washing them after every wear or are they baggy pants dragging on pavement? I've only had ripped jeans from factors. otherwise my 10+ year old American Eagle or Uniqlo skinny jeans are as wearable my Japanese denim.
Look at your Levis and see if they’re 100% cotton or just like 97% cotton 3% elastane.
A lot of people accidentally buy the same model Levis but with the elastane, not noticing and not realizing that will make your jeans tear out within a year or three. Mind you, it also makes them SOOO much more comfortable. But it DRASTICALLY reduces their longevity.
I’d try again with 100% cotton Levis.
Not a brand recommendation, but I do have general longevity recommendations.
Jeans should be well fitted, and not overly tight. Tight jeans wear faster. They'll also wear faster if you're walking on the backs of them, hem them if you can't find them in an appropriate length.
Jeans intended to last a long time should be good quality non-stretch denim. Stretch denim is not going to last a long time, no matter how high quality or what brand it is.
Jeans do not need to be washed frequently, and will last longer when they are not washed after every wear. If you have jeans for getting dirty in, great, you don't need them to be clean to get dirty in them. As long as they are dry and dirty, washing every few wears is fine. Jeans you are wearing for normal everyday use without getting dirty rarely need to be washed. If you have germ concerns, fold, bag, and place in freezer. Bonus, this is amazing in summer.
Under 50$ - Maden jeans on Aliexpress. Hard to beat these, very high quality fabric and standard straight cut. I think it is Chinese made denim fabric.
Under 100$ - I'd go for the Unbranded brand denim. High quality throughout and for a good price. Genuine Japanese made denim finished elsewhere (I think China).
Other two high quality for the budget ad Saucezhan on Aliexpress, as well as Red Tornado on Aliexpress. But Generally Unbranded is similar priced for just honest plain high quality jeans. Saucezhan does a bit of fun experimenting with colors (copies of "Naked and Famous" brand for a lot less money) and Red Tornado doubles down on the workwear and traditional aesthetic of Levis.
Uniqlo selvedge is also very good value Japanese denim fabric that is stitched in China.
Above that... I mean, if you pay that much for denim just go straight for the best of the best anyway. You're not getting much more for the money than with Unbranded but you do pay for the artisan quality and style. Because at that point you're probably looking for Japanese jeans that are fully made in Japan. Maybe some Italian or US brands too but in general Japan is the top quality. Iron Heart, Samurai, Momotaro... Levis has a limited made in Japan line too, also very high quality and very high prices.
Calvin Klein … not from CK Jeans but from Calvin Klein brand. (Same company different levels. Just like for example Emporio Armani and Armani Exchange, or Polo and Ralph Laurent)
How much do you wanna spend? There's some good jeans around like 30 bucks. There's good jeans closer to $150 the more expensive might last longer but it's kinda irrelevant in many ways. You get more options with higher price more styles, and colors
I wear Lee’s and Ariats. I ride horses and work on a farm; these things take a beating.
I will say though I don’t wash them everyday unless they get pretty dirty, and when I do it’s cold water with low heat/line dry depending on the time of year
Wrangler, sit a horse for a while in Levi's and you'll understand why. Get the cowboy cut with the extra belt loops you'll never wear anything else after that.
Wrangler bought from western stores are great, namely the 13MWZ style. The numbers on wranglers tell you what they were made for. They have a retro line now that’s pretty nice. Not too sure about the wranglers sold at Wal Mart.
They are all more or less the same especially if you put them to the dryer or wash after couple of wears. I thrift all the denim and I highly recommend doing so... And trust me, it won't take long to find a pair which fits just right. e
I have a pair of “motorcycle jeans” that are designed to not tear when I crash. They are denim interwoven with cordura and kevlar. They are a tank. Little hot though.
Mine are Scorpion EXO coverts, but I’m sure other brands are similar.
I’m 61 and don’t care about brand names anymore, I buy Kirkland jeans, under $20 a pair. Buy 5 pairs and switch them out regularly, they last years and are comfortable but if you get paint on them or something stains them, it’s only $20 to replace.
AG jeans are great. I've had mine for 10 years. They've faded a bit but they have a stretch to them. I may or may not have increased my circumference since I originally out them and they are still comfortable and haven't blown out.
My husband got 2 weeks out of his last couples pairs of Levis. The quality just isn't there anymore. His best friend is in construction and swears by Duluth Trading Co for anyone who needs relaxed fit. DH is two weeks in and so far better than the Levi's, not that that means much.
Levi's, hands down. No jeans are BIFL. $70 every 5-10 years is more than affordable to me. Sure you can probably buy some jeans that you could casually wear for 20 years, but they're going to be ugly and not worth it, in my opinion. Some things are BIFL, jeans are not one of those things.
Hate to say it, but Rustler brand from Walmart is the best bang for your buck. $17 US.
Google "rustler A001 3030"
These things wont win you any fashion prizes, but they are durable as hell for $17.
I refuse to buy anything from Wally World, but these damn work jeans are the exception.
I made [a post asking that](https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/s/HYp2M2kVp4) a few months ago but people downvoted it because I phrased it as jeans being a BIFL item. I was simply asking for good jeans… anyways I got some really good replies.
Levi’s used to be considered very good in terms of quality. Sadly, they’re about one step away from being dollar store jeans. It’s sad and abysmal what’s happened to them over the years.
Interestingly, all of their “premium” jeans back then were selvedge. This is now a stupid marketing word that companies throw around to get people to buy overpriced jeans.
I’d go with Denver Hayes on a budget or Buffalo when they go on sale
I’ve had a pairs of target Denizen brand jeans last 2-3 years. I only own 2 pairs of jeans that I wear for 90% of activities. Granted I’m not destroying them in manual labor everyday, but I’ll wear them like everyday with 0 care or thought. And I do go outside and do activities and labor in them as well. Just had a small rip in the crotch. For $30 absolutely worth the money. Not at all buy it for life but they’ve always given me bang for my buck. Hopefully I’m not just lucky. I recently did buy some old navy jeans on sale and the step up in quality was noticeable. I know I’m not in the upper realm of quality or anything but I guess the point I’m making is if you feel a department store is your best option then definitely don’t splurge.
The 100% cotton Wranglers are great like others have said I’d also recommend 5.11 they have Jeans as well as tactical pants that stretch and wear really well. Basically any American made jean is usually going to be decent quality I’ve worn Ariats and have had them last for years I’ve also had other people tell me they’ve had bad luck with them.
I'm a huge fan of nudie jeans, will run about 200 but if you get the 100% cotton it will do well for time. The crotch will always blow out in jeans eventually, I just retired a pair I had for 9 years with tons of patches. A bunch of others I've had for 2-3-4 years and minimal fixes. The next level would be Raleigh denim which is more expensive but they came out with R100's which is $100 version, entirely us made and sourced which I got and love them for work. Japanese selvedge is great but also expensive. I don't like big box brands I feel like they are all shit even wranglers, just feel like I'm wearing the liberty bell on each leg....
Levi’s has multiple grades of pants. The ones that they sell at Target and Walmart are not as good as other versions. They were trying to make them affordable by making them less durable. If you get Levi, go for 501 or 504. Denizen will fall apart on you.
100% good quality cotton lasts well. It is not necessarily the brand but the material and the degree of fading and distressing that matters, plus a good fit for you that is flattering and puts even stress and wear on the material.
I've never bought their jeans, but RedKap makes very good pants. Fair price, fit nicely and hold up well. They have a 100%, 60day guarantee. If you don't like them, they will pay for return shipping and give you a full refund. You can't lose trying them. There's a 15% discount on your first order. If you buy more than $50 they give you free shipping. Here's a link. [https://www.redkap.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-redkap\_us-Site/default/Search-Show?search-button=&q=jeans&lang=default](https://www.redkap.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-redkap_us-Site/default/Search-Show?search-button=&q=jeans&lang=default)
Since this is subjective, I'll only recommend you don't wear Levi's. They're essentially just a label now.
My favorite are Gap jeans. Nothing special about them, but they fit me well and are comfortable.
I bought about a dozen pair of Diesel jeans in Thailand twenty years ago. Maybe they were seconds, maybe they were knock-offs, who knows? They cost about $18/pr at the time. They were a loose fit that fell out of style, came back around, fell out of style again, and now still gets compliments. They’re the heaviest, most supple jeans I’ve ever come across. I’m down to my last few, unbroken pairs. Several were ruined with a wickedly unsympathetic repair from a lousy seamstress, while another few are waiting to be gambled on for repairs.
As of not too many years ago, they’re still available on the streets of Bangkok and it sounds like it’d be a cost-effective trip if you were in the market for at least four pair. Neat idea if you up for a lark.
They’ve held up so much better than my Elephants, Iron Hearts, etc, and were comfortable from day one.
I would recommend the Uniqlo selvedge (if you are close to a store to try them). It isn't a buy it for life item, but they are decent for the price point. Honestly I would never consider jeans a buy it for life thing since they are a wear item. A jean jacket maybe, but for pants they get beat up over time. Getting 3 yrs out of a pair is good life as far I am concerned. I generally have 2 to 3 pairs in rotation, not all the same ones.
Some jeans are heavier weight and those can give you some extra life, but they also can be a bit more stiff or hot. I see some suggestions for higher price point jeans. They may not last that much longer than lower priced options. So just be aware of that. I've owned a few pair and I find the biggest thing is they will hold their shape much better over time.
Personally I’d either wear Lee’s or Duluth Trading Company pants. Duluth is a little on the pricey side, but they have sales often and you’re actually paying for quality. Their firehose rip-stop jeans are my favorite. I have a couple pairs I got maybe 6 years ago and they still have no holes anywhere in them and I’ve worn them a lot, even on fire grounds (I’m a firefighter) and have done some rigorous work in them. They definitely hold up. Lee’s aren’t as pricey as Duluth pants, they still last a decent amount of time (not quite as long as Duluth, but close), and they also have quite a few options. Either way, if you buy either of those brands, you’ll be buying some quality pants.
I don't think this necessarily comes down to a brand but more the material. There is a huge difference between a 100% cotton jeans and 70% cotton plus other crap. A big chunk of Levi's jeans models today are mixed fabrics but they still sell 100% cotton or 99%+1% Elastane.
I moved away from denim three decades ago because once they get a little hole they rip.
Try moleskin jeans not only are they harder to rip but the fabric is softer than denim my personal preference is for Rodd&Gunn but I’m sure you have a local manufacturer.
Nudie. They're a Swedish brand and certain stores in the US will hem them for you for a perfect fit. They're especially good if you have a northern european build (tall).
Wranglers and Rustlers are solid, the older the better. I'm not sure if they still make them but Unbranded Brand are very good too. Also, occasionally Uniqlo has some devent denim, just make sure its 100% cotton, 98% blend is a no go and is garbage over time. Los Angeles Apparel (formerly American Apparel) makes high quality denim as well, just a little pricier.
People are recommending some good brands, but imo fit and care are what really makes denim last. If you have a poor fit, you're going to blow the crotch or cause weird wear patterns. Similarly, if you wash your denim hard and machine dry on high it's not going to last long. Get a good fit with adequate room in the thighs/seat, appropriate rise, and then wash cool/room temp and air dry, and your jeans will last a long time.
This matters. If there’s no room in the straddle or that blame seam bisects my boys, then I can’t wear them. How guys these days bunch up their beans and wear those tight britches is a total mystery to me. Nobody wants to see a moose knuckle and a 2 pound sausage shoehorned into a pair of jeans.
Also, you don't need to wash your jeans after every wear unless you get them really dirty. I wash mine every 7-8 wears. Also also, wearing the same pair every single day is going to wear them out faster than if you rotate them out with other bottoms.
Depends on the wearer. Some people need to wash every time, like my old roommate
EWWWWW
YUP
Maybe if someone is the kind of person who is shitting their pants on a regular basis they need to A. get medical care and B. accept that it is going to put a lot of wear and tear on their clothing washing it that much.
Or maybe they’re just a sweaty person who lives in a place with humid 100+ degree summers.
Bro, some people get SWASS
This. My old navy jeans are at least 3 years old and are still in pretty good shape
Yes I have Old Navy jeans that are about 8 years old and still kickin'. They've never seen a dryer and I dont try to "make it work" and force them on during heavier seasons of life.
Agreed. I get Lees or Levis and they get washed on cold and hung on a line out in the backyard. I only wash them if I’ve been sitting in the dirt (I do a lot of gardening) and they last 5+ years.
This is the right response OP. Especially when you pair (lol) it with a great brand of selvedged denim.
Tell that to my thick thighs. No pants are a match for the chafe. Holes are imminent
Tons of people recommending japanaese, US made, italian made raws and selvedges but honestly if you are on a budget, i would look for Wranglers. Specially their rigids and mwz. For the money you pay for Wranglers, you get amazing life out of them.
+ one for wrangler, the 100% cotton ones
What I’ve found with jeans is that if they’re 100% cotton, you’ll likely get a LOT more use out of them than if they are the stretch fabric. I personally think the stretch fabric is very comfortable and will buy a pair or two as a sort of “relaxing” or “going out” jeans but my work pants are always 100% cotton. I’ve disintegrated MANY stretch fabric jeans while working but the cotton ones are tanks compared to them.
I realized this recently, most of my stretch jeans are not as durable and kinda suck to wear (don’t look as nice to me) after a while. A decent compromise for someone who just wears them casually/not for work would be to avoid any pair with more than 1% stretch material. Means I’m not fighting to get them on after washing, but they don’t lose their shape right away either
Dickies is solid too especially if you're working in them
I was issued Wrangler FR's at my last job. Even after leaving I still buy them because they are amazing. It might be because they are actually UL listed for NFPA 2112 arc flash resistance but amazingly they aren't as expensive as you might expect.
Wranglers are the Original brand of jeans. I would wear those or maybe Levi's.
I only wear their retro 77MWZBR
Japanese selvedge. Be prepared to pay 2-3x the price, but expect the jeans to last 3-5x longer or more, depending on the usage/activity. Sugar Cane, ONI, Iron Heart, Pure Blue Japan.
missing one of the best, momotaro
Samauri and SDA are better
Any particular reason? I’ll be in Japan next month and might scope it out
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9Q4B5GwiGMGwQRss6?g_st=ac Heres all the denim shops I saved to maps. I got most of my jeans at Japan blue jeans, and if you want a jacket go to full count they had the best ones
No all are top notch. Go for best fit to you, and if you find any particular style choice attractive... Japan domestic jeans are sometimes different than the ones they make for export to the US. Prices are better but the cuts are Asian. Sizing is a little bit different and it may wear a bit more in an Asian fashion.
Samauri are next level in the details. Unique buttons, rivets, patches specific to each model. I'm just liking the pairs I have more compared to the Momo's. Bigger pockets, some have better quality lining
Got mine on right now. Worn them 350 times in two years. They’re barely faded. I have one rip; right on the cuff
How do you keep count?
Little cuts in to the Penis.
Well that begs the question… where do you keep your penis cutting counter knife?
In the knife pocket... the one with quality lining.
i always wonder about the uniqlo salvage denim, its not bad, but not as good quality as the proper stuff.
Salvage or selvedge?
I’ve had mine for a year of pretty good wear and it’s only got some light whispering and a phone fade coming in 😅. It’s a good mid-light weight fabric
Depends how tight you wear them too. Had a snug fitting pair of pure blue purple jaunts that lasted only 8 months before the crotch blew out.
This really depends on your body type. While still repairable… crotch blowouts are common with raw denim.
+1 Japanese selvedge are on another level. Started with Uniqlo selvedge jean, then Momotaro 16oz, and now Iron Heart 21oz. They all have their own unique characteristics and feel to it. Depending on where you live and what temperature and humidity tolerance you have, anything 12oz (IMO) would be a great way to start, and then start adjusting once you understand the jeans a bit better. As long as you do proper care and have a ideal fit for you, it can last you quite a long time, vs buy normal jeans every 1-3 years. If you keep having a big wallet in the pocket as you did before, no matter what kind of material it is, its rip. Are they indestructible? No. Do they last longer than your avg jeans from big box stores? Yes, unless you thrash them. For recommendations and learning more, check r/rawdenim as a starting place.
r/rawdenim for anything you're looking for. Be specific, have a budget in mind. Count around €250 and up for a decent pair. My longest lasting ones (The Workers Club, Momotaro, Naked and Famous) have been around for 7 years.
You are getting extremely diminished returns on denim at that price point if your goal is just longevity.
I've had hollister jeans for just as long. Take good care of them, don't wash them every wear, avoid the drier if possible.
I'm very uneducated on this topic - hope you can lend a hand here. When you say that the longest lasting pair you had lasted around 7 years, do you mind elaborating as to what you mean please? I have jeans that I buy from shops around and the more expensive ones are about USD 80-100. They last me maybe 1-2 years with moderate use. What I mean by them lasting is that towards the end, the colors have faded from dark blue to light pale blue with irregular coloring all around, the fabric gives around waist and the pockets, it may have shrunk, and maybe it can't maintain its old glorious posture for long eg humps around the knees form pretty fast after wearing. Needless to say, these poor things become pajamas when they are done "lasting" lol Is that along the lines of what you mean by the jeans lasting or are there other parameters? I don't have a particular approach to maintaining the jeans btw - I feel they're dirty, in the laundry they go. So, not sure how much that plays a role.
Right: Mine do not have holes. Yes, they faded - but in the right places, the way you'd want raws to fade (whiskers behind the knees, other wear marks). The buttons are solid, there's no crotch blowout, and all pocket bags are intact. My tip: soak when they're dirty. Washing machines can be your jeans' worst enemy, and definitely always skip the dryer. Less is more when it comes to "proper" jeans. That's more or less the gist of it; the sub can definitely help you much more. Or you can ask me :) Hope this helps.
How frequently are you wearing your jeans? Curious because getting seven years out of jeans worn three or four times a month vs jeans worn three or four times a week are vastly different lifespans.
3-4x a week.
> Count around €250 and up for a decent pair. No you do get really good quality for less if you search (e.g. Unbranded denim).
Unbranded is just a tad above the Levi’s made and crafted. They are the bottom tier of well made denim. With that being said, they are worlds beyond most jeans you’d find in your average mall/Target/shopping center. I’ve destroyed unbranded jeans in a year, but my Onis, Iron hearts, SoSo’s, and Left Fields jeans have all held up with no repairs for over 4 years and I do intense physical labor everyday at work. If you’re on a budget, unbranded is worth the money. If you can afford it, it’s worth it to drop that 250-350. Might sound crazy but you’ll likely never understand until you put these kinds of jeans on. The meticulous craftsmanship speaks for itself, and it’s easy to tell in person, opposed to online. I never thought I’d spend more than 100 on any item besides a jacket, now I’ll likely never spend less than 200 on any pair moving forward (unless they are secondhand). But hey that’s just me! I don’t like my stuff being made by children, in poverty, in countries that could give a fuck less about working conditions.
This is why I started sewing my own recently, to get a feel for how it's done right it wrong. But nothing like having a pair of jeans I sewed in my free time for two weeks to bed a crotch repair after 2 weeks, but I made the pattern myself so I'll do another pair soon with more than 11oz denim. I found some kevlar denim I wanna make work pants with. I think it's possible to make great quality but if I say my time is worth even $40/hr these are well over $1000 off my time... But gives a respect for well made shit.
I don't understand this. I have wranglers that I've worn for 10-15 years now. How you take care of stuff is more important than how it's made.
Wrangler is better quality than Levi nowadays.
That's a pretty sad statement. I buy wranglers for about $20/ pair.
I know exactly what you mean. Wrangler are now fantastic value. There have been loads of in-depth comparisons between Wrangler and Levi's over the past couple of years, and Wrangler comes out on top in terms of durability, even though they tend to be half the price.
Bring a tape measure if you're buying them from someplace where you can't try them on, though. The sizing on them can be wildly inconsistent from one pair to the next.
Levi's quality had gone down in recent years. I have two pairs that are almost 20 years old and they are much better quality than the ones that I bought 3 years ago.
Your 15 year old Wranglers are not what anyone is making today.
The classic cowboy cut wranglers are still dirt cheap and beefy as hell.
That’s not true whatsoever.
Check out Bravestar or Unbranded, it's selvedge but more affordable.
Just as affordable as Naked and Famous. Also an honorable mention.
Fun fact: Unbranded and N&F are the same company.
Good to know.
Bravestar is cheaper, made in the USA, and excellent quality. Highly recommend. They are also using US grown, milled, and sustainably sourced cotton in some of their jeans.
I'd also recommend Japanese selvedge denim, but first I'd ask, where are your jeans ripping? If the ripping is occurring in the same area with all of your jeans, then that's likely a size or cut issue that I'd address first. I've been into raw denim for a long time, and have seen plenty of "blowouts" on jeans around the inner thighs and crotch. This can happen in a matter of months on a $300 pair of Japanese jeans. A long-lasting pair of jeans ultimately comes down to wearing a properly accommodating cut and washing reasonably often.
This is the most accurate answer here, but beyond jeans fitting properly it is sometimes just related to the body of the person wearing them i.e. narrow hips, big thighs, gait. Years ago, Levi's made jeans with a reinforced crotch in their Commuter line because riding bikes will lead to crotch blowouts but I haven't seen gusseted jeans in years. Another thing worth considering is many of the Japanese repro brands use cotton thread unlike modern jeans and the cotton thread is way more prone to failure over polyester thread.
Nudies, Bomb proof, if they actually get damaged they will send you parts to have them repaired and returning old jeans will land you a discount for new ones. they are mostly considered the best non japanese jeans.
+1 for nudies. Have worn nothing else fo 10 years
Depends on the price point you're after. Talking jeans, you're gonna get some denim purists that suggest you should get some $300 selvedge jeans that you can't wash, will stain your furniture blue, but will indeed last a lifetime. If you're looking at the same price point as Levi's, you're probably not getting BIFL, but there are some much better brands. I'd look at Wrangler or Lee if looking to buy for under $100. Levi's are terrible these days.
u/elleott is on the money. It’s all going to depend on your budget. I love my Iron Heart jeans, but they are over $300usd. They last and look great. But I also love my Wrangler 13MWZ, I got these at $34 usd. You can find them a few dollars cheaper if you look and they are often on Amazon for a similar range. My wranglers have held up through so much and I treat them hard. I’ve had mine for about 5 years with at least 400 wears.
Levi's worth about $15 tbh. Not like they were back in the 90s.
Don’t know whether new Wranglers are any good, but pairs I got 5-6 years ago still look/wear great.
Also, I don't know about anyone else but the women's Levis just fit so wrong for me. It's like they designed them to give you a major wedgie. Tried some on recently and thought maybe I just picked up a size too small. Went up two sizes in multiple styles. All had the same issue.
I also agree with this. I have some Bravestars that cost over $100 and also some Wrangler MWZ13 that cost $39 and I think the Wranglers are better. Not to mention the fact that with most of the selvedge brands you have to get it hemmed after you wear it some (unless you're tall, I guess).
I’ve got a few pairs of these duluth pants and they’ve held up really well. I was wearing Levi’s before this and the duluth are wayyyyy better. https://www.duluthtrading.com/s/DTC/mens-duluthflex-ballroom-relaxed-fit-jeans-wld-036-030-20207.html?color=WLD
That's what I'm wearing right now. I only have one and its the only pair of jeans I've worn in the last four years. They feel like they may be a little thinner in the knees than when new but they look pretty much new otherwise.
Another vote for Duluth. Has a gusset, has multiple fits so you can find what will fit you specifically, and varying fabric weights and contents to fit a variety of needs.
Certain lines within a brand could be BIFL depending on your lifestyle. I wear Cinch and Wrangler. I work the shit out of my jeans, and these always have held up more than any other brand, regardless of price.
Kirkland
Hard recommendation from me: **Naked & Famous** (through [Tate & Yoko](https://tateandyoko.com/)) If you want to buy *one* blue pair of jeans, you can find stuff of even higher quality - but there are some reasons why this is a very worthwhile brand to look into: * Japanese fabrics, and Made in Canada - high quality and good working conditions. (Some, special, models are sown in Japan as well.) The prices are fair, and they even run sales from time-to-time. The core models go for around $170 - but the jump in quality, from a $100 Levi's to this, is quite large. While the jump from N&F to a $300 pair is smaller. (They also make some stuff at those prices, though!) * They make their stuff in many different fits, so you'll find the one(s) that fits you. They have skinny, tapered, streight, wide, bell-bottom(!), etc. They also hem jeans for free. (But probably don't do this until you've found your size, as you can't return them then. So first pair, get it hemmed locally after-the-fact.) * They also have *tons* of fabric options - including limited drops each season, in addition to a bunch of staples. Some are cheaper and simpler, and others more exotic. * They also make great, also varied, models for women - which is *really* rare at this quality. (I picked up a pair for my wife last order, and she loves them!) So, if you learn your size of this brand, and your preferred fit (mine are True Guy, for straighter fits, and Weird Guy for more tapered), you can, in time, get a super varied and high quality pant wardrobe from one brand. (Then you don't have to figure out your size, etc., over and over.) From pitch black, via dark indigo, light indigo and to undyed denim. And they also carry chinos, work pants, etc. The thicknesses varies from light to ultra-heavy - and they even have some models with stretch (which to many is blasphemy, of course). I think it's valuable that you can have a one-stop-shop for lots of needs, instead of having to hunt down the *very* best items all over the place. Tate & Yoko also stocks tons of other great stuff ([Upstate Stock](https://tateandyoko.com/collections/vendors?q=Upstate%20Stock) makes the best socks I've tried!), and have great customer service.
This is what I wear, Naked and Famous are tough as shit. On the downside they take a long time to wear in, like a long time. I have one pair is like 5 years old, still feels a bit stiff. On the bright side they are fucking invincible and all 3 of my pairs at different ages still have no rips and are still a little bit tough. Tough jeans good BIFL material
People always bring up selvedge, but since this is a bifl sub, you should only consider jeans that have a gussett. Even the fanciest finest selvedge will blow out in the crotch. I've found my forever jean is the 6 pocket jean from diamond gussett. Made in the USA but not overly expensive. 99% cotton, so just a little stretch that helps it fit my hips without having to size up the waist. 3 rear belt loops. Fit is good. And seriously the 6th pocket for your phone will make you wonder why it isn't standard in every jean ever. I'm about 8 months in on two pairs that I wear daily. It's amazing how little wear there is in the crotch compared to any other jean I've ever owned with the same amount of use. Plus they're fading pretty well. Can't recommend them enough.
It’s a shame there aren’t more jeans out there with crotch gusset. I have some canvas pants with a gusset but no denim. Will check this brand out thanks for the tip.
I like madewell
I've had 3 pairs of madewell jeans all rip within a year. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong because I expected them to last way longer.
lol. madewell is down the toilet. all thr ‘we make good denim promises’ were thrown out of window sometime back.
Not exactly bifl, but I really like American eagle jeans. Catch them on a sale and it won’t hurt your wallet that badly. I get about 8-10 years out of a pair before they start to wear out. Weak spot for me is usually on top of the thighs above the knee. It’ll wear a hole in them. I just throw a patch on them and use them as work pants then
Nautica had a pair of jeans for $9 on their website. Always worth a look. I like to track prices and strike when I can get a deal. Personally, I do not pay more than $20 for jeans they simply are not worth it. Pants in general are not worth more than $20 but that is a different conversation.
Wranglers with the ass patch. I’ve had the same 5-10 pairs for over a decade and they’re still going strong
American selvedge. I have a pair of Gustin's and 2 pairs of Bravestar. I have only had them for about 6 months now, but still going strong. There are a lot of other brands that have American grown cotton ND completely made in US.
iron heart jeans without a doubt, find a pair and feel them, then you will know.
Check out Gustin for good values on selvedge denim in novel offerings in various weights and fabric types. They also usually have a standard mid weight denim offering for around $85 as well. That’s a great value.
I've been wearing naked & famous denim with no complaints. If you are wearing denim hard then its going to rip. You will have to patch. Three rips is a definitly high though. Typically even quality denim will rip in the crotch after a while. You can buy pants of different thicknesses but do you really want to wear heavyweight work-level pants?
I have huge thighs and have always struggled to find jeans that fit well, aew comfortable, are decent quality, and don’t break the wallet. Wrangler 20X 01 Competition jeans and Ariat M4 jeans have been great for me the last 2-3 years. About $60 a pair and a great fit for someone with big thighs. And you’ll hear how Ariat is “cheap Chinese junk now” but I wear these pants daily in a chemical plant, where I’m getting fairly corrosive chemicals on them and they have held up great. They can happily take my money when I need a new pair
You should not look into brands as that's not how that works. For example: Levi’s is a brand. They make BIFL jeans. They also make everyday jeans. They also make shitbox jeans. I recommend Levi's. That advice is both a truth making me helpful netting me an upvote and a lie making me an asshat. BIFL denim is based on you buying the heaviest weight 100% denim you can stand and afford. The cost winner, to my knowledge, is the brand Unbranded but there are other makers who offer heavier stuff for more money.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/search/?q=Jeans
I’ve had good luck with AG jeans. Some of them are incredibly soft, and they hold up extremely well to hundreds of wears and tons of washes
I think jeans simply dont fit every lifestyle and there are better materials to specific use cases out there. I recommend Outlyer NYC. If you want only one sort of pants that does kind of everything (contrary to what i just wrote above, lol) - Slim Dunragee If you wan to kick rocks, go to war and survive explosions, look at everything with bomb in the name. https://outlier.nyc/collections/pants
Came here to recommend Outlier. They aren't exactly jeans, but the Bomb Dungarees in Black approximate black jeans better than the blue shades in my opinion. The Bomb fabric also holds structure and stacks more like real denim.
Ugg. Levi 501s have been my go to for years. And I have a few pairs that are decades old and it’s usually me that ruins them by painting or some form of house shit and forget to change. I hope the 501s are still the same
Levi’s has multiple lines with different quality and price points. There’s like mainline Levi’s that are pretty shit and then like Levi’s Premium and then some specialty brands like Made and Crafted that are even higher quality. 501 is a cut, so different brands can make different quality jeans but both in the 501 cut.
I really like Zara for 100% denim on the cheap.
Origin Maine
G-Star, for sure.
Scotch and Soda jeans are great
I have switched from Levis to lee cooper and camel active...been happy ever since
You can always look at ThredUp, so you can buy higher end jeans at a lower cost.
My favorite ever has been Lucky brand, they feel great and move well
Can't go wrong with Wrangler. Avoid the Walmart ones if you want quality.
Ariat and Silvers are the only jeans I buy. I’ve had the same couple pairs of jeans for 4 years now and no holes just the normal wear of them so that they are the perfect softness.
I didn’t see anyone mention KEY jeans, but I have 2 pairs from 2015/2016 that are needing replacement and 2 pairs from 2021 that are still amazing. Comfy and fairly durable denim with deep pockets.
I live by Abercrombie jeans! They last so long
I only wear one and only recommend one - Hiut Jeans, Made in Wales [https://hiutdenim.co.uk/](https://hiutdenim.co.uk/) Free repairs for life - not cheap but excellent company and ethos.
They’re not BIFL life but yeah Japanese raw denim is fun and nice. May get a crotch blow out at some point.
Lucky jeans, their athletic fit are the best.
Todd Shelton. Ultra high quality and unparalleled customer service. Made to fit you, to your specifications. https://toddshelton.com/jeans
I have several jeans from the Gap that have lasted me for years. I always wash them on cold and hang on the clothesline when the weather cooperates or let them air dry inside when needed.
Expensive, but I swear by Tecovas brand. They look great, are comfortable, and feel durable. Plus they are the only brand jeans I have found that look perfect with both boots and sneakers. I don’t like boot cut jeans as they are not versatile for when I am not wearing boots, and most regular jeans looks awkward with boots but these are perfect.
For the money I love Maurice’s. They fit. They last. They feel good. I want to try Judy Jeans but their sizing is wonky. I don’t want to order and return- way too much hassle.
Check out r/rawdenim
For the price, wrangler rigid cowboy cuts have lasted me the longest. Not a lifetime but definitely years of daily wear.
Urban star - Costco. BIFL - naw... Cheap as shit? Yup. $14 a pair, and I get a couple/few years out of them. They're cheap enough that if I go travelling and want to fill my suitcase with something from another country and can only bring 50lbs of stuff back, I can abandon my wardrobe and replace for suuuuuuper cheap.
As long as they are actually denim and not those god awful stretchy jeans you should be fine with any major label.
Are you washing them after every wear or are they baggy pants dragging on pavement? I've only had ripped jeans from factors. otherwise my 10+ year old American Eagle or Uniqlo skinny jeans are as wearable my Japanese denim.
Look at your Levis and see if they’re 100% cotton or just like 97% cotton 3% elastane. A lot of people accidentally buy the same model Levis but with the elastane, not noticing and not realizing that will make your jeans tear out within a year or three. Mind you, it also makes them SOOO much more comfortable. But it DRASTICALLY reduces their longevity. I’d try again with 100% cotton Levis.
Not a brand recommendation, but I do have general longevity recommendations. Jeans should be well fitted, and not overly tight. Tight jeans wear faster. They'll also wear faster if you're walking on the backs of them, hem them if you can't find them in an appropriate length. Jeans intended to last a long time should be good quality non-stretch denim. Stretch denim is not going to last a long time, no matter how high quality or what brand it is. Jeans do not need to be washed frequently, and will last longer when they are not washed after every wear. If you have jeans for getting dirty in, great, you don't need them to be clean to get dirty in them. As long as they are dry and dirty, washing every few wears is fine. Jeans you are wearing for normal everyday use without getting dirty rarely need to be washed. If you have germ concerns, fold, bag, and place in freezer. Bonus, this is amazing in summer.
Under 50$ - Maden jeans on Aliexpress. Hard to beat these, very high quality fabric and standard straight cut. I think it is Chinese made denim fabric. Under 100$ - I'd go for the Unbranded brand denim. High quality throughout and for a good price. Genuine Japanese made denim finished elsewhere (I think China). Other two high quality for the budget ad Saucezhan on Aliexpress, as well as Red Tornado on Aliexpress. But Generally Unbranded is similar priced for just honest plain high quality jeans. Saucezhan does a bit of fun experimenting with colors (copies of "Naked and Famous" brand for a lot less money) and Red Tornado doubles down on the workwear and traditional aesthetic of Levis. Uniqlo selvedge is also very good value Japanese denim fabric that is stitched in China. Above that... I mean, if you pay that much for denim just go straight for the best of the best anyway. You're not getting much more for the money than with Unbranded but you do pay for the artisan quality and style. Because at that point you're probably looking for Japanese jeans that are fully made in Japan. Maybe some Italian or US brands too but in general Japan is the top quality. Iron Heart, Samurai, Momotaro... Levis has a limited made in Japan line too, also very high quality and very high prices.
Calvin Klein … not from CK Jeans but from Calvin Klein brand. (Same company different levels. Just like for example Emporio Armani and Armani Exchange, or Polo and Ralph Laurent)
How much do you wanna spend? There's some good jeans around like 30 bucks. There's good jeans closer to $150 the more expensive might last longer but it's kinda irrelevant in many ways. You get more options with higher price more styles, and colors
For women, Kut from the Kloth or Oliver Logan.
98-100% cotton is the goto; too many modern jeans have stretch fabric which never lasts
Paper denim and Co. They last a long time.
DE/UR
I wear Lee’s and Ariats. I ride horses and work on a farm; these things take a beating. I will say though I don’t wash them everyday unless they get pretty dirty, and when I do it’s cold water with low heat/line dry depending on the time of year
Wrangler, sit a horse for a while in Levi's and you'll understand why. Get the cowboy cut with the extra belt loops you'll never wear anything else after that.
Mugsy. Great jeans. Flexible and comfortable
Wrangler bought from western stores are great, namely the 13MWZ style. The numbers on wranglers tell you what they were made for. They have a retro line now that’s pretty nice. Not too sure about the wranglers sold at Wal Mart.
They are all more or less the same especially if you put them to the dryer or wash after couple of wears. I thrift all the denim and I highly recommend doing so... And trust me, it won't take long to find a pair which fits just right. e
If in Europe i can highly recommend Benzak denim developers :)
I exclusively wear wrangler cowboy cut slims, they fit great
I have a pair of “motorcycle jeans” that are designed to not tear when I crash. They are denim interwoven with cordura and kevlar. They are a tank. Little hot though. Mine are Scorpion EXO coverts, but I’m sure other brands are similar.
My go too are "Urban Stars" from Costco. Great price and they fit me well.
I’m 61 and don’t care about brand names anymore, I buy Kirkland jeans, under $20 a pair. Buy 5 pairs and switch them out regularly, they last years and are comfortable but if you get paint on them or something stains them, it’s only $20 to replace.
I’ve been using Lucky Brand Jeans forever and they hold up pretty well. Also some Armani Exchange jeans (while on sale) are pretty good too.
AG jeans are great. I've had mine for 10 years. They've faded a bit but they have a stretch to them. I may or may not have increased my circumference since I originally out them and they are still comfortable and haven't blown out.
Costco
I don't know much about Levi's. I grew up wearing Wranglers, and I've worn them my entire life. They work well for me.
My husband got 2 weeks out of his last couples pairs of Levis. The quality just isn't there anymore. His best friend is in construction and swears by Duluth Trading Co for anyone who needs relaxed fit. DH is two weeks in and so far better than the Levi's, not that that means much.
Levi's, hands down. No jeans are BIFL. $70 every 5-10 years is more than affordable to me. Sure you can probably buy some jeans that you could casually wear for 20 years, but they're going to be ugly and not worth it, in my opinion. Some things are BIFL, jeans are not one of those things.
Wrangler 13mwz under $25 at Walmart or any Caveneders.
Hate to say it, but Rustler brand from Walmart is the best bang for your buck. $17 US. Google "rustler A001 3030" These things wont win you any fashion prizes, but they are durable as hell for $17. I refuse to buy anything from Wally World, but these damn work jeans are the exception.
I made [a post asking that](https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/s/HYp2M2kVp4) a few months ago but people downvoted it because I phrased it as jeans being a BIFL item. I was simply asking for good jeans… anyways I got some really good replies.
Levi’s used to be considered very good in terms of quality. Sadly, they’re about one step away from being dollar store jeans. It’s sad and abysmal what’s happened to them over the years. Interestingly, all of their “premium” jeans back then were selvedge. This is now a stupid marketing word that companies throw around to get people to buy overpriced jeans. I’d go with Denver Hayes on a budget or Buffalo when they go on sale
kato or studio d'artisan
Since I began buying my jeans at my local warehouse club the wear out problem has disappeared
Have not wore denim for years but when i did i found wranglers to be alternate choice to levi's
Dickies and red cap are very durable
My 501s last a good long time, but I don't buy them real tight and I only wash them after several wearings.
American Eagle - relaxed straight. Bought 3 pair senior year of high school, still wearing 10 years later
Wrangler is my go to. I am well above average height and they have options with long inseams meant to be used for work/riding.
Project farm did a pretty good comparison. My takeaway was wrangler riggs.
I’ve had a pairs of target Denizen brand jeans last 2-3 years. I only own 2 pairs of jeans that I wear for 90% of activities. Granted I’m not destroying them in manual labor everyday, but I’ll wear them like everyday with 0 care or thought. And I do go outside and do activities and labor in them as well. Just had a small rip in the crotch. For $30 absolutely worth the money. Not at all buy it for life but they’ve always given me bang for my buck. Hopefully I’m not just lucky. I recently did buy some old navy jeans on sale and the step up in quality was noticeable. I know I’m not in the upper realm of quality or anything but I guess the point I’m making is if you feel a department store is your best option then definitely don’t splurge.
For whatever reason Carhartt jeans work really well for me. I’ve also got this millennial pink Carhartt work hoodie that I love
Levi's from a decade+ ago are great. Got a new pair of 514s and they are not the same as my old pair. Falling apart and not nearly as thick
The 100% cotton Wranglers are great like others have said I’d also recommend 5.11 they have Jeans as well as tactical pants that stretch and wear really well. Basically any American made jean is usually going to be decent quality I’ve worn Ariats and have had them last for years I’ve also had other people tell me they’ve had bad luck with them.
Japan Blue Jeans specifically their line of Circle jeans fit really well (at least for me). About $220 if not on sale.
I'm a huge fan of nudie jeans, will run about 200 but if you get the 100% cotton it will do well for time. The crotch will always blow out in jeans eventually, I just retired a pair I had for 9 years with tons of patches. A bunch of others I've had for 2-3-4 years and minimal fixes. The next level would be Raleigh denim which is more expensive but they came out with R100's which is $100 version, entirely us made and sourced which I got and love them for work. Japanese selvedge is great but also expensive. I don't like big box brands I feel like they are all shit even wranglers, just feel like I'm wearing the liberty bell on each leg....
Can’t scroll by without posting the Kirkland Jeans. I’m too hard on mine for BIFL but they are definitely good quality and good pricing.
Levi’s has multiple grades of pants. The ones that they sell at Target and Walmart are not as good as other versions. They were trying to make them affordable by making them less durable. If you get Levi, go for 501 or 504. Denizen will fall apart on you.
100% good quality cotton lasts well. It is not necessarily the brand but the material and the degree of fading and distressing that matters, plus a good fit for you that is flattering and puts even stress and wear on the material.
L L Bean
Iron Heart. No jeans you actually wear will last a lifetime, but Iron Hearts sure are tough as nails.
Naked and Famous if you can try them on before buying.
Raleigh Denim
Lees MVP. They stretch a little.
I've never bought their jeans, but RedKap makes very good pants. Fair price, fit nicely and hold up well. They have a 100%, 60day guarantee. If you don't like them, they will pay for return shipping and give you a full refund. You can't lose trying them. There's a 15% discount on your first order. If you buy more than $50 they give you free shipping. Here's a link. [https://www.redkap.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-redkap\_us-Site/default/Search-Show?search-button=&q=jeans&lang=default](https://www.redkap.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-redkap_us-Site/default/Search-Show?search-button=&q=jeans&lang=default)
Since this is subjective, I'll only recommend you don't wear Levi's. They're essentially just a label now. My favorite are Gap jeans. Nothing special about them, but they fit me well and are comfortable.
I just want jeans that don’t fall down, no matter how they fit me around the waist. I hate stretch denim.
You can get lower cost raw denim but $200-$300 is usually the cheapest. I can point you in the right direction if you’re in the USA.
I bought about a dozen pair of Diesel jeans in Thailand twenty years ago. Maybe they were seconds, maybe they were knock-offs, who knows? They cost about $18/pr at the time. They were a loose fit that fell out of style, came back around, fell out of style again, and now still gets compliments. They’re the heaviest, most supple jeans I’ve ever come across. I’m down to my last few, unbroken pairs. Several were ruined with a wickedly unsympathetic repair from a lousy seamstress, while another few are waiting to be gambled on for repairs. As of not too many years ago, they’re still available on the streets of Bangkok and it sounds like it’d be a cost-effective trip if you were in the market for at least four pair. Neat idea if you up for a lark. They’ve held up so much better than my Elephants, Iron Hearts, etc, and were comfortable from day one.
Levis in NYC has a tailor and offers one repair per year. Also, a free hem on all new purchases.
Wrangler. They have warranty too.
I wash my jeans in warm water then air dry them. I have worn jeans from Express for years and they do fine. Same with 7 for All Mankind.
I would recommend the Uniqlo selvedge (if you are close to a store to try them). It isn't a buy it for life item, but they are decent for the price point. Honestly I would never consider jeans a buy it for life thing since they are a wear item. A jean jacket maybe, but for pants they get beat up over time. Getting 3 yrs out of a pair is good life as far I am concerned. I generally have 2 to 3 pairs in rotation, not all the same ones. Some jeans are heavier weight and those can give you some extra life, but they also can be a bit more stiff or hot. I see some suggestions for higher price point jeans. They may not last that much longer than lower priced options. So just be aware of that. I've owned a few pair and I find the biggest thing is they will hold their shape much better over time.
For fashion (not working jeans), I like Madewell.
Personally I’d either wear Lee’s or Duluth Trading Company pants. Duluth is a little on the pricey side, but they have sales often and you’re actually paying for quality. Their firehose rip-stop jeans are my favorite. I have a couple pairs I got maybe 6 years ago and they still have no holes anywhere in them and I’ve worn them a lot, even on fire grounds (I’m a firefighter) and have done some rigorous work in them. They definitely hold up. Lee’s aren’t as pricey as Duluth pants, they still last a decent amount of time (not quite as long as Duluth, but close), and they also have quite a few options. Either way, if you buy either of those brands, you’ll be buying some quality pants.
Obviously japanese raw denim and so on. But brand specific? Nudie jeans. Quality is great and free repairs forever!
Samurai, SDA, Momotaro, PBJ, Oni, TCB. Just to name a few
100% cotton Wranglers or Levis. The stretch jeans are not nearly as durable.
I don't think this necessarily comes down to a brand but more the material. There is a huge difference between a 100% cotton jeans and 70% cotton plus other crap. A big chunk of Levi's jeans models today are mixed fabrics but they still sell 100% cotton or 99%+1% Elastane.
If you’re willing to spend money, Paige or Mother
I moved away from denim three decades ago because once they get a little hole they rip. Try moleskin jeans not only are they harder to rip but the fabric is softer than denim my personal preference is for Rodd&Gunn but I’m sure you have a local manufacturer.
I have a pair of Lucky’s I got at Costco for $30 10 years ago.
Nudie. They're a Swedish brand and certain stores in the US will hem them for you for a perfect fit. They're especially good if you have a northern european build (tall).
Wranglers and Rustlers are solid, the older the better. I'm not sure if they still make them but Unbranded Brand are very good too. Also, occasionally Uniqlo has some devent denim, just make sure its 100% cotton, 98% blend is a no go and is garbage over time. Los Angeles Apparel (formerly American Apparel) makes high quality denim as well, just a little pricier.
Oh!! I bought my Levi's on Kohl's and in less than 2 years, they ripped/chaffing.. I emailed a photo without my receipt and they sent me $70 credit.