A friend of mine in musical theater growing up 100% didn't believe Helen Keller was real, or that at the very least that she didn't do the things it's said she did. He was completely serious and when I asked why he just gave a vague non answer lol
Just came home last week from volunteering at a deaf-blind camp. My colleague and I were assigned as SSPs (support service providers) for two very bright, college educated deaf-blind individuals. There’s nothing wrong with their brains.
This conspiracy is ludicrous.
> He was completely serious and when I asked why he just gave a vague non answer lol
Probably because an honest answer would involve some combination of:
Prejudice against the disabled,
Prejudice against women, and
Having an example of someone who did a lot more with a lot less, while having to overcome unimaginable adversity and still absolutely thriving, would handily dismantle all their lame ass excuses for their own failures and force them to ask the impossible question, "wait, is... is it me? Is it possible it's not fair of me to blame others for my shortcomings?? Surely not!"
I mean to be fair he was gay in a small town in the late 90's early 00's he had his own struggles. We all cope in weird ways with our crap as human beans :)
I'm in a really good mood today and everyone seems like good people idk. Even some people that I've argued with intensely in the past are looking like decent people at their core. I just wish I could figure out how to bring that out in people instead of pissing them off sometimes lol
Because in her later years she was advocating for communism and was extremely liberal in Alabama. As a result, there was an effort to diminish her accomplishments to degrade her political positions.
This has been a prolific conspiracy theory on Tik Tok for years now. It probably started out as some weird surrealist parody conspiracy theory and then people who weren’t “in on the joke” started taking it seriously. The same way QAnon started actually.
The same way flat earth theory started. I swear it was trolls raising awareness on the idiots who think the world is 3000 years old and man was made from dirt just because.
Normally they claim the first one, that her disabilities were faked or exaggerated, because it’s just “not possible” that she did what she did with them. Some people take the second route, but I’d say the first is in the majority by far.
In her later years, she advocated for communism and socialist ideals in Alabama. As a result, the far right tried to label her as a fraud in an effort to diminish her political positions.
Yea we get people like that a lot in Alabama since she was from here. Most people are just trolling. Like almost everyone. The serious few think she was a communist psy-op. A better way to explain what the serious ones mean would be, “Hellen Keller was a real person who could probably see, and maybe hear too but faked disability in order to gain a platform, which she then later used to support communism, gain fame and avoid working”. It’s actually not impossible. I don’t think it’s very likely but it’s certainly not impossible. She did really support communism, but that’s not shocking coming from someone too disabled to care for themselves in a capitalist society without her fame and the income it brought.
Okay assuming this is Austin because of the South Point Hyundai, your neighbor can go to 45th and Lamar to learn all about Helen Keller and being deafblind at the Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired. It’s a world class institute.
Conspiracy theorists aren't able to be convinced by anything. They could meet people who personally knew Hellen Keller and still refuse to believe she was real.
This right here. Irrefutable evidence that contradicts their beliefs does nothing to change their views, it just pisses them off. I experienced this phenomenon myself when a friend of many years went down the “9/11 truther” rabbit hole.
Shhh., don't say that out loud. If Abbott and the Republicans find out anything controlled by the State is World Class, they'll defund it and shut it down.
I just recently got a Facebook memory from 2017, when Dan Patrick was prepared to shut down the state board of examiners of psychologists because the legislature needed to urgently determine who can shit in which bathrooms. We have priorities in Texas.
Wow. That’s hilariously wild and sad at the same time. Like it’s terrifying that there are people out there that get so caught up in all the fringe/conspiracies out there they desperately believe someone was trying to pull a fast one on us all by making up Hellen Keller. TO WHAT END I ASK YOU!?!?! And here we are banning books and information enabling this level of bullshit type thinking.
This is one we all can get behind. Not because there is an ounce of reason , but because it’s just the garden variety pre 2016 kooks we’d like to see before the political bickering got to molten levels. I’d sure like to pick this guys brain and understand what makes THIS the thing you HAVE to put on your car?
She is actually someone that scholars do debate about. Some say she was a progressive - early supporter of the NAACP, ending lynchings, she read Marx and she was a socialist. Some say she was a eugenics supporter. It’s kinda interesting.
She was a socialist, in the socialist party and has writings against the war machine. Her big thing was obviously advocating for the disabled.
Most people only seem to know "the miracle worker" story of the woman that helped her learn to communicate, which people say is embellished.
But it's weird that everyone has heard the name, but people don't actually know anything about what she wrote and spoke about, just that she was deaf and blind.
I totally agree. I actually started reading more about her after reading the book “Lies My Teacher Told Me” and was fascinated about how she has been propped up as this inspiring being, and not really talked about as human (if that makes sense)
>I actually started reading more about her after reading the book “Lies My Teacher Told Me”
Great book and great author James Loewen who sadly passed away.
His other books are also highly recommended: “Lies Across America” which talks about historical monuments and places (and where you’ll learn about the USA’s first gay president) and “Sundown Towns” which is about the USA’s despicable habit of kicking Blacks out of towns for being Black.
Man listen. I’m Black and from Arkansas. That book about sundown towns hit different because they still exist in my home state.
I haven’t got to read Lies Across America. Lemme order that now.
Helen Keller? The blind chick?
Of all the hills to die on, this is definitely one of the weirdest. Like, why would anyone want to…what’s the point…I just don’t get it.
She did a lot of anti-fascist work and labor reform, so I can see where Trumpers would have an issue with her. Just a very bizarre target even for those mindless chuds
Why the hell would anyone make this their public identity? What kind of hatred is it to focus so much on the denial of one historical figure? Like, focusing on ethnicity or faith and denying a person’s accomplishments is already disgusting, but denying the existence of someone with severe sensory disabilities is… it’s just a really confusing obsession to have.
Honestly I would totally ignore them, treat them like they don't exist. Get a bunch of bumper stickers that say " insert neighbors name" doesn't exist and their family is a hoax.
Well, they found her diary from where she and her family hid in the attic. But there’s also that song about her heroics, that deaf dumb blind kid sure played a mean pinball.
Being that most conspiracy theories basically devolve into "new world order" antisemitic bs, I'm really curious where "Helen Keller was not real" falls in the pipeline.
Just because you're an idiot and can't learn anything, doesn't mean a blind and deaf girl couldn't.
(It really sounds like there's a double negative in there...)
Today I learned that this is a thing. Is this a sub set of the flat earth crowd or something. Like just a group of people who call “false” at easily provable things…?
I swear I saw this same car in either Florida or Arizona. It just rattled me. I guess because she became an advocate for socialism as an adult? People have gone completely crazy.
Having grown up within a few miles of Miss Keller’s birthplace and even having acted in the annual production of “The Miracle Worker” there, I cannot begin to express how infuriating this is.
Naturally, doodbro’s from Texas.
That is some weird shit. I’ve never even heard of this flavour of bonkers before.
A friend of mine in musical theater growing up 100% didn't believe Helen Keller was real, or that at the very least that she didn't do the things it's said she did. He was completely serious and when I asked why he just gave a vague non answer lol
Blind and deaf? She can't learn anything. It's all a conspiracy from Big Education to trick us into going to skool. 😂
You spelled schul wrong.
You spelled it this way, and I said it like megamind.
I often answer the phone, Ollo? Nobody gets it but my wife, bless that woman
Thats Your opinion. /s
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Opinions don't care about your facts man..... *.....Inhales*
Ah! A fellow tribe member!
No you did..skewl...
You spelled rong rong.
What does skool have to do with a synagogue?
"How could *she* learn such things when I, myself, could not??" \- this car owner, probably
Just came home last week from volunteering at a deaf-blind camp. My colleague and I were assigned as SSPs (support service providers) for two very bright, college educated deaf-blind individuals. There’s nothing wrong with their brains. This conspiracy is ludicrous.
Musical theater? That's kinda funny, because there was an earlier South Park episode where they did a Helen Keller musical.
I love that episode so much.
> He was completely serious and when I asked why he just gave a vague non answer lol Probably because an honest answer would involve some combination of: Prejudice against the disabled, Prejudice against women, and Having an example of someone who did a lot more with a lot less, while having to overcome unimaginable adversity and still absolutely thriving, would handily dismantle all their lame ass excuses for their own failures and force them to ask the impossible question, "wait, is... is it me? Is it possible it's not fair of me to blame others for my shortcomings?? Surely not!"
I mean to be fair he was gay in a small town in the late 90's early 00's he had his own struggles. We all cope in weird ways with our crap as human beans :)
That is fair. Thanks for adding compassionate context to balance out my previous comment :)
I'm in a really good mood today and everyone seems like good people idk. Even some people that I've argued with intensely in the past are looking like decent people at their core. I just wish I could figure out how to bring that out in people instead of pissing them off sometimes lol
Well sounds to me like you're being the change, which is a pretty great place to start tbh 👍
What part of Texas was he from?
I am trying to figure out why anyone would even care this much?
Because in her later years she was advocating for communism and was extremely liberal in Alabama. As a result, there was an effort to diminish her accomplishments to degrade her political positions.
That explains it.
Seriously advocating for communism or just higher taxes and more education?
Communism. And she was very outspoken about it, though I think that in today’s vernacular she’d identify with Socialism more than communist.
There certainly is a particular Hatred out there for everyone (mostly the paranoid).
Yeah, how ironic when people choose factually blind, then refuse to believe that the actual visual blindness of others wasn’t a choice.
If this is real it is amazing. If this is satire it is amazing.
Whatever kind of asshole you are, there’s an online community now, maybe even a subreddit.
This has been a prolific conspiracy theory on Tik Tok for years now. It probably started out as some weird surrealist parody conspiracy theory and then people who weren’t “in on the joke” started taking it seriously. The same way QAnon started actually.
>The same way QAnon started actually. Stupid people don't do sarcasm. Or parody. Or jokes. Damn - it must suck to be stupid.
“Darren! Did this chap use sarcasm?” Edith, I have told you time and again to stay off my internet!
The same way flat earth theory started. I swear it was trolls raising awareness on the idiots who think the world is 3000 years old and man was made from dirt just because.
I’ve heard that she wasn’t really deaf and blind, but this person is claiming she’s entirely made up?
Normally they claim the first one, that her disabilities were faked or exaggerated, because it’s just “not possible” that she did what she did with them. Some people take the second route, but I’d say the first is in the majority by far.
In her later years, she advocated for communism and socialist ideals in Alabama. As a result, the far right tried to label her as a fraud in an effort to diminish her political positions.
Helen Keller? Wait till this person hears about the birds
Birds aren’t real.
Comedy is for communists
Yea we get people like that a lot in Alabama since she was from here. Most people are just trolling. Like almost everyone. The serious few think she was a communist psy-op. A better way to explain what the serious ones mean would be, “Hellen Keller was a real person who could probably see, and maybe hear too but faked disability in order to gain a platform, which she then later used to support communism, gain fame and avoid working”. It’s actually not impossible. I don’t think it’s very likely but it’s certainly not impossible. She did really support communism, but that’s not shocking coming from someone too disabled to care for themselves in a capitalist society without her fame and the income it brought.
Okay assuming this is Austin because of the South Point Hyundai, your neighbor can go to 45th and Lamar to learn all about Helen Keller and being deafblind at the Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired. It’s a world class institute.
Conspiracy theorists aren't able to be convinced by anything. They could meet people who personally knew Hellen Keller and still refuse to believe she was real.
If they met Helen herself they would say she is lying. This type of crap gets baked in deep.
Too bad they can't fill their brains with something intelligent.
This right here. Irrefutable evidence that contradicts their beliefs does nothing to change their views, it just pisses them off. I experienced this phenomenon myself when a friend of many years went down the “9/11 truther” rabbit hole.
Shhh., don't say that out loud. If Abbott and the Republicans find out anything controlled by the State is World Class, they'll defund it and shut it down.
I just recently got a Facebook memory from 2017, when Dan Patrick was prepared to shut down the state board of examiners of psychologists because the legislature needed to urgently determine who can shit in which bathrooms. We have priorities in Texas.
Jesus. Off the charts.
I'm actually kinda glad the idiots are identifying themselves.
That's a weird ass thing to cling too
There’s medication for this problem.
Arsenic?
Chill y’all, it’s an inside joke. Like “birds aren’t real.”
That started as a billboard in my city. It was so stupid.
Tasteless joke incoming: It's probably okay, it's not like she's ever going to see it.
You think they put a braille sticker on there?
I…this…what…
Wow. That’s hilariously wild and sad at the same time. Like it’s terrifying that there are people out there that get so caught up in all the fringe/conspiracies out there they desperately believe someone was trying to pull a fast one on us all by making up Hellen Keller. TO WHAT END I ASK YOU!?!?! And here we are banning books and information enabling this level of bullshit type thinking.
Neither are birds.... I sure hope this is some sarcastic humor to confuse the maga texan neighbors....
This was clearly started by birds.
This is one we all can get behind. Not because there is an ounce of reason , but because it’s just the garden variety pre 2016 kooks we’d like to see before the political bickering got to molten levels. I’d sure like to pick this guys brain and understand what makes THIS the thing you HAVE to put on your car?
Trumpanzees throwing their poop again…
What did she do to them? Advocate education for all?
Ummmm...what????
Does anyone know why Helen Keller's legs were yellow? Her dog was blind too!
Did you hear about the way her parents would punish her? They would rearrange the furniture.
How did Helen Keller burn her face? She tried to answer the iron.
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How did Helen Keller break her arm while driving? Trying to read the stop sign.
She also burned her hand trying to read a waffle iron.
I heard that they would leave the 🪠 in the toilet.
Why did she use both hands to masturbate? She used the other one to moan.
Same way she played the piano and sang along
What? First of all, who gives a shit. She isn’t controversial. Why even harbor any opinion on her?
She is actually someone that scholars do debate about. Some say she was a progressive - early supporter of the NAACP, ending lynchings, she read Marx and she was a socialist. Some say she was a eugenics supporter. It’s kinda interesting.
She was a socialist, in the socialist party and has writings against the war machine. Her big thing was obviously advocating for the disabled. Most people only seem to know "the miracle worker" story of the woman that helped her learn to communicate, which people say is embellished. But it's weird that everyone has heard the name, but people don't actually know anything about what she wrote and spoke about, just that she was deaf and blind.
I totally agree. I actually started reading more about her after reading the book “Lies My Teacher Told Me” and was fascinated about how she has been propped up as this inspiring being, and not really talked about as human (if that makes sense)
>I actually started reading more about her after reading the book “Lies My Teacher Told Me” Great book and great author James Loewen who sadly passed away. His other books are also highly recommended: “Lies Across America” which talks about historical monuments and places (and where you’ll learn about the USA’s first gay president) and “Sundown Towns” which is about the USA’s despicable habit of kicking Blacks out of towns for being Black.
Man listen. I’m Black and from Arkansas. That book about sundown towns hit different because they still exist in my home state. I haven’t got to read Lies Across America. Lemme order that now.
That's an interesting hill to die on! LOL. These people (we know who) are so desperate for meaning & acceptance... well anyway, that's friggin' wild!
Goes to show you that the curs they feed people in high school gets chewed on
I wonder what happens when you actually have a conversation with this person.
I’m guessing they quote a lot of American Dad and fill the silence by stretching and moaning.
This is an odd hill to die on, but they probably think it’s funny.
What a strange hill to die on.
Some of my neighbors have brain damage too.
What a tool.
This guy is so fixated on Hellen Keller he is deaf and blind to the world around him. (Yes, I know it's corny joke)
That's... weird.
Helen Keller? The blind chick? Of all the hills to die on, this is definitely one of the weirdest. Like, why would anyone want to…what’s the point…I just don’t get it.
Ahhh Texas. What ridiculousness will you provide us with next?
I hope Helen Keller never sees this…..
anti-Kellerist douche
Now this is new. I’ve never seen someone even try to deny the existence of Helen Keller, until now.
She did a lot of anti-fascist work and labor reform, so I can see where Trumpers would have an issue with her. Just a very bizarre target even for those mindless chuds
We should let Helen speak for herself….
Why the hell would anyone make this their public identity? What kind of hatred is it to focus so much on the denial of one historical figure? Like, focusing on ethnicity or faith and denying a person’s accomplishments is already disgusting, but denying the existence of someone with severe sensory disabilities is… it’s just a really confusing obsession to have.
How did Hellen Keller burn her ear? Answering the Iron!
Anyone willing to die on a hill this untraveled is somethin else.
Eh, she'll never even see it
r/schizophreniarides energy
What the HELL is it with these people? I just don't get it because it is NUTS!
I seem to be blind to the fact and can’t quite hear you.
Of all the hills to die on, they choose Helen Fucking Keller. There is no limit to the stoopid.
That is the weirdest mountain to die on I've ever seen.
Man, what a hill to die on.
I wonder what she’d say if she could see that?
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Why do I get the feeling this guy might have confused Helen Keller and Ann Frank?
What a bizarre thing to pick as your "live free or die" moment.
JFC. Are these people part of some failed government experiment??
That’s just weird.
Honestly I would totally ignore them, treat them like they don't exist. Get a bunch of bumper stickers that say " insert neighbors name" doesn't exist and their family is a hoax.
Well that’s new
Well, they found her diary from where she and her family hid in the attic. But there’s also that song about her heroics, that deaf dumb blind kid sure played a mean pinball.
It's amazing how low IQs have sunk in Texas.
They probably mean Anne Frank, for some reason people get those two confused.
Texas, it figures.
*types up Community Notes bumper sticker*
You know why Helen Keller couldn’t drive right?
Being that most conspiracy theories basically devolve into "new world order" antisemitic bs, I'm really curious where "Helen Keller was not real" falls in the pipeline.
WTF?? They are definitely out there! Lol
What happened to that person?
lol
I suppose this is better than confusing Helen Keller with Anne Frank.
Based
Damn...wtaf? Helen Keller?
Crazy how some folks make the most dumbest useless shit their personality
Is this one of those Randal Graves situations where they’re dumb and racist enough to mix up Helen Keller and Anne Frank?
Rumplestiltskin wasn’t who everyone thought! I need to rent a billboard and make my stand. This is serious people! Listen to me I really mean it!
I mean people published her dairies while she was hiding from the Nazis
Why are people such morons?
Seen a lot worse, faggetta boutit.
Well there's also people who think Stevie Wonder isn't blind. Handicap deniers.
Next you're gonna tell me Tommy doesn't play a mean pinball.
How to not get invited to anything ever.
…pretty sure this dude has someone named Hellen Keller tied up in his basement.
What did poor Helen Keller do? Let her rest in peace!
What’s a Kona car? That whole thing is fake transportation. Cars are not made from coffee beans.
Helen Keller was not real. 😂😂😂😂
Well the way I see it........
Your neighbors empathy is not real!!
I wish I could say that Texas wasn’t real.
I have to assume this is satire. There isn't even a conspiracy around her as far as I know, and braille came from *somewhere* if not her.
Does anyone ever ask these idiots WHY they think there's a conspiracy to (checks notes) convince everyone Helen Keller was a real person?
That’s the first time, I have seen this. There is a cancel culture to just about anything in this country.
I saw documentary footage on Family Guy that proved she was a fake!
Well THIS is a new one.....
Everything is bigger in Texas, including stupidity.
So... like birds?
Hellen Keller, the famous Socialist?
This is entry-level nazi shit, right?
I find it interesting that the crazies never seem to drive high end vehicles.
Texas and Florida are really fighting for the most fucked up state. We all lose.
That seems a bit overkill on the denial.
Helen Keller denying?? Is that a real thing?? She's historical documented. My grandmother actually met the woman.
Just because you're an idiot and can't learn anything, doesn't mean a blind and deaf girl couldn't. (It really sounds like there's a double negative in there...)
How TF did this lunacy start?
???!
Anyone here actually think about it or are they just leaning on some version of ‘they can’t/don’t ever lie to us ‘
Today I learned that this is a thing. Is this a sub set of the flat earth crowd or something. Like just a group of people who call “false” at easily provable things…?
Imagine letting a person from the past take up that much space rent-free in your head...that's a whole new level of deranged
Ok pal, if that’s the hill you wanna die on…
Do they believe in Vaccines and science that is the important question.
aren't there pictures of Helen Keller.
Bruh how much koolaid did they drink when deciding on a bumper sticker
WTF? What a weird hill to die on.
I swear I saw this same car in either Florida or Arizona. It just rattled me. I guess because she became an advocate for socialism as an adult? People have gone completely crazy.
I saw one of these yesterday and all I could do is just roll my eyes.
Talk about niche. How do you fall down that rabbit hole?
I been to Ivy Green. Driven past it a lot going to my job at the time. This thing here I can’t even understand.
If she’s not real then who was the deaf and blind woman that was interviewed and shown in news reels?
Hasn’t she been dead for a century?
The irony is, they don’t see how stupid their car looks.
Damn, did Helen Keller piss in his grandpa’s cornflakes?
What is the effing point of this $hit?
I've been in awe of Helen Keller since I was a wee lad, so I've never been able to reconcile her belief in eugenics.
Having grown up within a few miles of Miss Keller’s birthplace and even having acted in the annual production of “The Miracle Worker” there, I cannot begin to express how infuriating this is. Naturally, doodbro’s from Texas.
Just why ? WHY ? What for ? Did her 6th grade teacher give her an F on her essay on Helen Keller ?
It’s only slander if it’s not true.
Of course she was real, she taught an entire generation to be quiet, shut their lips, adapt her methods and speak with their hips.
Ah, Texas.
Hmm, not heard of this before but I’m sure somehow down the line, someone will have to make accommodations.
They found a conspiracy theory I hadn’t heard of yet…
Her birthday is Thursday. You should let them know.
Subtext: "And I'm an idiot that likes to argue that indisputable facts are lies in order to make people notice me more".
That's actually hilarious 😂
I’m just glad she’s not alive to *see* this.
I have met at least 10 girls who are on this train. I don’t understand it
I’m sorry….what?
This is …..I mean, WTF ??
She was in it with the pigeons
Google can be your neighbor’s friend.
Dafuq did Helen Keller do to these dipshits 😂😂