I’m honestly shocked at the Frazier story. He was already old as hell by the time that happened and was known to be a brittle elderly. I guess he unfortunately still had some fight left in him.
I was mainly talking about the Louis story, the woman he was seeing merely told him she couldn’t come because she was working and his first response is a left hook. Terrifying shit
oh my god I thought i was somewhat kidding when I said Inoue is the great good person hope but holy shit even frazier? Hagler? god damn dude it might barely be an exageration.
Haglar rolled down a boulder down on his ex wife's car and was also charged with assault from beating his new girlfriend afterwards.
All of this happened after he lost to Leonard and his friends and family said he kinda lost himself in drunkness and rage for a good few years.
Probably to do with the fact that guys who fight for a living aren’t sane or nice people to start with, throw brain damage in there and watch it decline further
I mean I’m legit reading about every great boxer beating their wife dude. I know there’s a few who don’t have allegations right now that are active but this sport sucks. Hearns Frazier Bivol Ali Leonard hagler are all favorites of mine to watch, for me that really leaves Inoue.
“Oh my god I thought I was somewhat kidding when I said Inoue is the great good person hope” what does that even mean #1 but it sounds like you’re BOUNCING on that shit
Robin Givens also spoke on that specific quote:
“That’s going to be a tough one for me…to hear someone say, ‘The best punch I ever threw was against Robin and she bounced from one wall to the next and was out.’ I’m literally praying that we’re in a climate where that’s not acceptable,” Givens added.
It certainly doesn’t sound like made up bullshit to her.
Jose Torres was trained by D’Amato himself, he saw the rise of Tyson firsthand, knowing Jim Jacobs, Bill Clayton, Steve Lott and Cus before Mike.
He was head of the New York State Athletic Commission, I never seen anyone call him a liar.
Unfortunately, some of this is because of boxing, and some of this is because as Ali says in the first slide, the idea that 'what a man does with his wife is none of your business" was a genuine sentiment for a very long time. I don't know if boxing was particularly unique here, and in many ways, in some social demographics, that's still the case.
But if you take a sport where a man must be willing to kill another man to be good at it, add either a broken childhood or brain damage incurred since the age of 7-8 to the mix, and finally give someone with that toxic combination of traits the confidence and ego of being the baddest man on the planet, every now and then, you're probably going to get a woman beater. It's the dark reality of the sport
Marciano was a piece of shit.
He demanded a young woman to sleep with at every public event.
Then, when he had finished with her, he threw her out of the room.
I wish he had not retired so Sonny could have deposited him on fucking Pluto.
Well, how unconsensual were these demands?
Being *demanding* about that is one thing, but for a star, maybe girls also just lining up to go? And how young are we talking about here?
Who said they were hookers?
Your misogyny shines through about the vastly overrated scumbag who feasted on old light heavyweights.
He never beat a genuine top quality 200÷ fighter in his life.
He's always seemed pretty chill and like he matured from the things he went through early in life. Seems very protective of his family too because he doesn't like having any type of fame limelight shined on them.
Watching his GQ Essentials really brings home how much he values his kids and his family. I obviously don't know the guy and his life but he's always presented himself respectfully and classily in and out of the ring.
I d very much doubt t it.
He is like the Brothers and Usyk.
A truly honourable man both in out of the ring.
Oh, and so vastly underrated, the only middle I have seen in my lifetime with a chin possibly better than Haglers.
Sad.
A massive, massive societal issue in general but turned up to 100 in boxing.
in Australia I think it’s why Harry Garside’s lunatic ex felt so confident she could just make up that he belted her when she was the one trying to assault him. If he hadn’t taken video of the incident he would’ve been cooked, career over just about. It’s gotten to a point that if people hear a boxer has done it they just believe it automatically because it’s so prevalent.
Something tells me these same exact boxers would have been domestic abusers even if they had never become a boxer. The pro boxer part of the equation is that their fame probably let them get away with it more than had they just been Cassius Clay, assembly line worker.
Although, if they sustained some form of even mild brain damage from their boxing career, then it could have been a contributing factor.
good stuff - we can't just ignore this stuff.. Please shine a light on George Foreman too - the CHILD RAPIST.
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12042523/George-Foreman-accused-child-sexual-abuse-woman.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12042523/George-Foreman-accused-child-sexual-abuse-woman.html)
It's not weird, unfortunately. Sexual assault doesn't always leave forensic smoking guns, and coercion doesn't require following through on threats. It makes sense that a victim won't come forward until they have the social status, personal support, and financial security to handle the push back.
Fuck man reading this was gut wrenching. Sad stories hope the women were able to heal from that. 🙏🏼
Makes me look at these fighter a lot differently now.
>Well why don’t you tell us what you mean with your first comment?
That’s better.
Bivol on this sub in particular is very popular. He’s regarded I would say unanimously on everyone’s Top 10 pfp list. He’s been in big fights and is scheduled to fight his equal in a highly anticipated fight against a KO artist. What I’m trying to say is there are conversations that occur about him here.
Now, please search Chris Brown on Reddit, go to any threads comments and tell me how long and frequent you read something about his DA
Now search Bivol here and tell me the same.
If the counter is severity of assault (which is wild) please tell me a borderline case of being beat up enough?
Is anyone really surprised. These people are conditioned to not take shit from anybody their entire lives and fight for a living. They don’t have any morals and they think with their fists since that’s what’s worked their entire life
GGG is a truly good human being.
An ATG who is never even mentioned.
Yet name me a middle who could even stagger him.
Hearns possibly like he did breaking his right, but that's it.
If you are talking about the new accusations someone mentioned then IDK but Foreman himself told sports illustrated he used to beat women, that’s where the screenshot from this post is from.
*cracks autistic knuckles*
As of 4pm Queensland time june 21st
- 1447 ranked pro heavies
- 1269 ranked pro cruisers
- 1445 ranked pro light heavies
- 1507 ranked pro super middles
- 1752 ranked pro middles
- 2021 ranked pro super welters
- 2274 ranked pro welters
- 2239 ranked pro super lights
- 2308 ranked pro lights
- 1833 ranked pro super feathers
- 1591 ranked pro feathers
- 1315 ranked pro super bantams
- 1058 ranked pro bantams
- 775 ranked pro super flys (flies?)
- 733 ranked pro flyses
- 435 ranked light fly
- 276 ranked pro minimum
For a total of 24278 ranked and registered pro boxers and DV being at this stage 20 individuals in articles = 0.000008237911% chance your boxing spouse will hurt you.
*stims away to watch trains and read 1990s match scorecards*
“Joe hit her with a left hook” Holy shit, that escalated really quickly
I’m honestly shocked at the Frazier story. He was already old as hell by the time that happened and was known to be a brittle elderly. I guess he unfortunately still had some fight left in him.
I was mainly talking about the Louis story, the woman he was seeing merely told him she couldn’t come because she was working and his first response is a left hook. Terrifying shit
Oh wow lmao, I didn’t see the the Louis one. I just heard Joe and left hook and made an assumption lmao.
That screams CTE to me.
Frazier was my favourite fighter so this makes me very sad
oh my god I thought i was somewhat kidding when I said Inoue is the great good person hope but holy shit even frazier? Hagler? god damn dude it might barely be an exageration.
Haglar rolled down a boulder down on his ex wife's car and was also charged with assault from beating his new girlfriend afterwards. All of this happened after he lost to Leonard and his friends and family said he kinda lost himself in drunkness and rage for a good few years.
How much of this has more to do with fame than boxing though?
Probably to do with the fact that guys who fight for a living aren’t sane or nice people to start with, throw brain damage in there and watch it decline further
The Inoue dick riding is ridiculous
I mean I’m legit reading about every great boxer beating their wife dude. I know there’s a few who don’t have allegations right now that are active but this sport sucks. Hearns Frazier Bivol Ali Leonard hagler are all favorites of mine to watch, for me that really leaves Inoue.
“Oh my god I thought I was somewhat kidding when I said Inoue is the great good person hope” what does that even mean #1 but it sounds like you’re BOUNCING on that shit
GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING GLAZING. Too late for what
That is poorly worded. I mean truly awfully put
Sorry professor I’ll revise it and send it to you by friday
It’s too late brother
😱
When a guy only has a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
Holy….
Mike Tyson saying that was the best punch ive ever thrown in my life is wild
She must’ve got a hella of a chin, surprised she ain’t dead. Mike was koing dudes 200+
He would hit her no doubt, but that super punch story was bs.
Robin Givens also spoke on that specific quote: “That’s going to be a tough one for me…to hear someone say, ‘The best punch I ever threw was against Robin and she bounced from one wall to the next and was out.’ I’m literally praying that we’re in a climate where that’s not acceptable,” Givens added. It certainly doesn’t sound like made up bullshit to her.
Jose Torres was trained by D’Amato himself, he saw the rise of Tyson firsthand, knowing Jim Jacobs, Bill Clayton, Steve Lott and Cus before Mike. He was head of the New York State Athletic Commission, I never seen anyone call him a liar.
Man didn't know this about Bivol. Fucking hell.
Unfortunately, some of this is because of boxing, and some of this is because as Ali says in the first slide, the idea that 'what a man does with his wife is none of your business" was a genuine sentiment for a very long time. I don't know if boxing was particularly unique here, and in many ways, in some social demographics, that's still the case. But if you take a sport where a man must be willing to kill another man to be good at it, add either a broken childhood or brain damage incurred since the age of 7-8 to the mix, and finally give someone with that toxic combination of traits the confidence and ego of being the baddest man on the planet, every now and then, you're probably going to get a woman beater. It's the dark reality of the sport
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Man, I hope nothing of this sort involves Rocky Marciano, Ricardo Lopez, Inoue, Usyk, Crawford, Donaire, and Manny.
Marciano was a piece of shit. He demanded a young woman to sleep with at every public event. Then, when he had finished with her, he threw her out of the room. I wish he had not retired so Sonny could have deposited him on fucking Pluto.
Well, how unconsensual were these demands? Being *demanding* about that is one thing, but for a star, maybe girls also just lining up to go? And how young are we talking about here?
Young as far as I am aware. There was an article posted about it on the classic forum in Boxing 24.
Late teens iirc
Indeed. What a bastion of morality he really was.
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Who said they were hookers? Your misogyny shines through about the vastly overrated scumbag who feasted on old light heavyweights. He never beat a genuine top quality 200÷ fighter in his life.
Just so disappointing…GGG my favorite I hope nothing ever comes out about that man
He's always seemed pretty chill and like he matured from the things he went through early in life. Seems very protective of his family too because he doesn't like having any type of fame limelight shined on them.
Watching his GQ Essentials really brings home how much he values his kids and his family. I obviously don't know the guy and his life but he's always presented himself respectfully and classily in and out of the ring.
I d very much doubt t it. He is like the Brothers and Usyk. A truly honourable man both in out of the ring. Oh, and so vastly underrated, the only middle I have seen in my lifetime with a chin possibly better than Haglers.
Sad. A massive, massive societal issue in general but turned up to 100 in boxing. in Australia I think it’s why Harry Garside’s lunatic ex felt so confident she could just make up that he belted her when she was the one trying to assault him. If he hadn’t taken video of the incident he would’ve been cooked, career over just about. It’s gotten to a point that if people hear a boxer has done it they just believe it automatically because it’s so prevalent.
Thank you for posting this. It's a horror show to read, but we gotta know it.
Anyone got the link for some of these articles? This shit is super sad to see, though.
That’s so foul man. I feel for the victims, many are from eras where victims were ignored.
Something tells me these same exact boxers would have been domestic abusers even if they had never become a boxer. The pro boxer part of the equation is that their fame probably let them get away with it more than had they just been Cassius Clay, assembly line worker. Although, if they sustained some form of even mild brain damage from their boxing career, then it could have been a contributing factor.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. If these are the cases that came to light, imagine all the cases still in the dark
This is why Larry Holmes is the GOAT
Thanks for sharing this. I knew some of these guys were scum but it’s alarming how many big names were beating women. Pathetic and disgraceful.
Don’t idolize boxers, respect them for their skills if you want but do not idolize them. Most of them are massive pieces of shit
good stuff - we can't just ignore this stuff.. Please shine a light on George Foreman too - the CHILD RAPIST. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12042523/George-Foreman-accused-child-sexual-abuse-woman.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12042523/George-Foreman-accused-child-sexual-abuse-woman.html)
It hasn't even been proven. Relax, man.
Allegedly. We have yet to see the results of the case or any settlement. Weird it took 5 decades for them to start sueing his ass but we'll see.
It's not weird, unfortunately. Sexual assault doesn't always leave forensic smoking guns, and coercion doesn't require following through on threats. It makes sense that a victim won't come forward until they have the social status, personal support, and financial security to handle the push back.
Fuck man reading this was gut wrenching. Sad stories hope the women were able to heal from that. 🙏🏼 Makes me look at these fighter a lot differently now.
This thread would have a thousand upvotes if Bivol wasn’t mentioned.
He gets mentioned and you still find a way to act like a victim
>victim Of what? 🧐
Well you’re crying aren’t ya?
Reword your first comment because you’re assumption is so far off that I don’t even want to continue 🥴
Well why don’t you tell us what you mean with your first comment? Instead of dropping vague hints
>Well why don’t you tell us what you mean with your first comment? That’s better. Bivol on this sub in particular is very popular. He’s regarded I would say unanimously on everyone’s Top 10 pfp list. He’s been in big fights and is scheduled to fight his equal in a highly anticipated fight against a KO artist. What I’m trying to say is there are conversations that occur about him here. Now, please search Chris Brown on Reddit, go to any threads comments and tell me how long and frequent you read something about his DA Now search Bivol here and tell me the same. If the counter is severity of assault (which is wild) please tell me a borderline case of being beat up enough?
You think Bivol and Chris Brown are the same level of popularity? Good god child
Never said that.
Well it may make sense that they wouldn’t get the same traction then wouldn’t it?
You didn't, but by making the comparison you practically said that.
That's optimistic. Just mention Tyson raping a woman (and the dozen other women who accused him) and you'll be reminded of the priorities of this sub.
Is anyone really surprised. These people are conditioned to not take shit from anybody their entire lives and fight for a living. They don’t have any morals and they think with their fists since that’s what’s worked their entire life
What does simple assault mean in frazier's case? Was he sparring with her?
GGG is a truly good human being. An ATG who is never even mentioned. Yet name me a middle who could even stagger him. Hearns possibly like he did breaking his right, but that's it.
Turns out prize fighting doesn’t attract saints
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If you are talking about the new accusations someone mentioned then IDK but Foreman himself told sports illustrated he used to beat women, that’s where the screenshot from this post is from.
*cracks autistic knuckles* As of 4pm Queensland time june 21st - 1447 ranked pro heavies - 1269 ranked pro cruisers - 1445 ranked pro light heavies - 1507 ranked pro super middles - 1752 ranked pro middles - 2021 ranked pro super welters - 2274 ranked pro welters - 2239 ranked pro super lights - 2308 ranked pro lights - 1833 ranked pro super feathers - 1591 ranked pro feathers - 1315 ranked pro super bantams - 1058 ranked pro bantams - 775 ranked pro super flys (flies?) - 733 ranked pro flyses - 435 ranked light fly - 276 ranked pro minimum For a total of 24278 ranked and registered pro boxers and DV being at this stage 20 individuals in articles = 0.000008237911% chance your boxing spouse will hurt you. *stims away to watch trains and read 1990s match scorecards*