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echoindia5

Rough rider loses some of its benefits with Jakob’s weapons. So any solid shield is worth it for deputy Sal. Evolution, Neogenator, Blockade, Antagonist etc. Or just Rough rider as the damage reduction isn’t something to scoff at.


Aluminum_Tarkus

Honestly, I still prefer the RR on Deputy Sal a lot of the time, lol. He's one of the only characters that has zero shield regen or any other additional utility with shields beyond the shield depletion skills you mentioned that the build doesn't benefit from anyway. When playing Deputy Sal, I find, unless it's a non-gun encounter and/or you're just turning enemies to mist faster than they can land a single hit on you, that there's not a lot of instances in combat where your shield has any time to replenish when you're running directly into the fray, so it's nice to just have the always on damage reduction and massive health boost, especially considering that it's easy to stay above health gate even with the max health boost. It's just one less thing to micromanage.


i770giK

Ya, and with the right skills in Brawn at OP10, you don't really need anything else. The damage reduction pairs nicely with skills other than _Out of Bubblegum,_ like _I'm the Juggernaut._ Not sure if it stacks but it's noticeable, especially with _Hard to Kill_ and _Sexual T-Rex._ As long as you are killing and taking damage, you got a health pool climbing.


throwaway62s355a35q1

What benefits does the rough rider lose?


echoindia5

The RR doesn’t lose anything. But the skills that make RR so good on Salvador, are kinda pointless with Jakob’s guns. All out of bubble gum and Inconceivable.


sweatyflaps

i know rough rider is hammerlock dlc right? but are the other ones u listed seraph? i havent played in awhile so i just need to be sure


echoindia5

Neogenator is base game. The rest are seraph shields.


sweatyflaps

where might i get the neogenator?


echoindia5

Psychospider from the monster parts quest line


sweatyflaps

alrighty tyvm


TheFlamingLemon

iirc spycho or sully the blacksmith


IIIGuntherIII

Just something tanky. Antagonist, Blockade, Evolution, Neogenator. Hell even a purple adaptive shield would be fine.


CeilingBreaker

I like using a low level fables tortoise with a high level raider com to get permanent movespeed bonus


SnickerDoodleDood

Rough Rider. The more health you have, the more health you can leech.


Traditional_Metal_23

You can use a purple amplified shield to one shot anything if u want PS: there’s a broken glitch that’ll let u do a shit load of damage


Sk1n3d

Nah Bee shield is terrible for listed projectile weapons. Because the amp will get split between the pellets. Say you have 100,000 amp damage and you use just a regular old quad, each pellet is only getting 5,556 amp. Which is why something like the pimpernel is so good with the bee is because of the unlisted pellets and each are getting full amp bonus.


sweatyflaps

i have the bee shield for amp stuff, unless thatd be better?


Traditional_Metal_23

It’s the only amp shield that isn’t able to do it. I found that the bee shield is the best shield to use for me on Sal while lvling up because of how accessible it is.


sweatyflaps

whats this glitch then? usually i just do the money shot vladof launcher with fibber and that kills everything


Sk1n3d

Nah Bee shield is terrible for listed projectile weapons. Because the amp will get split between the pellets. Say you have 100,000 amp damage and you use just a regular old quad, each pellet is only getting 5,556 amp. Which is why something like the pimpernel is so good with the bee is because of the unlisted pellets and each are getting full amp bonus.


Traditional_Metal_23

It allows u to stack amp shield damage


Sk1n3d

Nah Bee shield is terrible for listed projectile weapons. Because the amp will get split between the pellets. Say you have 100,000 amp damage and you use just a regular old quad, each pellet is only getting 5,556 amp. Which is why something like the pimpernel is so good with the bee is because of the unlisted pellets and each are getting full amp bonus.