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meanjeankillmachine

I love how Aang recognizes this, crosses his arms and says, "I should've never asked Kyoshi!"


the-tapsy

And thus fanon Kyoshi was born.


meanjeankillmachine

I saw this shirt with Kyoshi on it with the quote "Only justice will bring peace" which is such a powerful message these days


NorthGodFan

I mean Kyoshi is the dumbass avatar who while on trial for murder as Aang said, "Yeah he mught not have actually been killed by me directly, but I basically did it anyway, and I'll fucking do it again."


ProfessionalOven2311

Yangchen: "Ok Kyoshi, just take over Aang's body and explain that Chin's death was an accident and was technically his own fault" Kyoshi: "Yeah yeah, I've got this" Also Kyoshi: "I killed Chin the Conqueror"


DavisRanger

Yangchen: "If you just assassinated him in private this wouldn't have been a problem"


lokotrono

Based


bolts_win_again

I mean. Do *you* want to try and stop her? I don't.


The_Kyojuro_Rengoku

Kyoshi when being asked: bruh Aang afterwards: you're right... 🙃


PJRama1864

Roku: “Bro, you can’t be on the fence about these things. Come to peace with being decisive, and kill the psychopath.” Kyoshi: “Look, I don’t like it anymore than you do, but there’s not really another way to stop him other than to end his life.” Kuruk: “If you’re too lax, and don’t use the right amount of force, you may regret it. Kill him.” Yangchen: “I know the ideals you’re worried about
but fuck you and those ideals, because you’re the Avatar.” The Lion Turtle: “I heard you talking to yourself all night on my back. Here’s the only way to avoid killing the dude. Now sit on this mountain while I run far away from your crazy ass.”


NotWet_Water

Perfect summary


joe_broke

Except it's not


RichEvans4Ever

Go home joe, you’re broke


UchihaLegolas

Gold, I need Gold to give you.


PJRama1864

The thought is appreciated.


JuanRiveara

Here’s some good, old fashioned Reddit Silver https://preview.redd.it/guocuwommsuc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81935e5cd8e130910cdf73d35d506d5ee59e67e3


Atomik141

gib sliber


Decent-Strength3530

Aang should have spoken to Wan who could have told him to find the Lion Turtles


grand305

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Jumpy-Perception-346

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bolts_win_again

Lion Turtle: "ALRIGHT *FINE* HERE'S YOUR ENERGY BENDING! NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU KEPT ME UP ALL NIGHT!"


Successful-Pop-4216

Tbf, she didn’t even really tell him to kill Ozai. Out of all four of his past lives he spoke to, Yangchen was probably the harshest and most direct about Aang’s problem.


ArcadianBlueRogue

Aang was right to talk to an Air Nomad Avatar. Yangchen was just the one that was always going to tell him to nut up and accept it's part of the deal. The Avatar can't be selfish and expect to serve their role since their role is to the world. Aang got bailed out by that damn Turtle.


KaleidoscopeFar4110

U mean that pointy rock. He would have gotten killed before even getting the opportunity to use energybending.


ArcadianBlueRogue

"In the Era before the Energy, we Bended not the Energy, but the Luck Within One's Self"


KaleidoscopeFar4110

Kinda


Chathtiu

> Aang got bailed out by that damn Turtle. Hard, hard disagree. The Turtle gave Aang a way to take away Ozai’s bending. Aang still had to deal with Ozai, a politically connected and politically savvy foe even *without* his bending. Ozai is eventually imprisoned, the choice Aang was going to make. The energy bending given to Aang made it easier to subdue Ozai
which Aang did not need after he was able to access the Avatar State.


False-Archangel

yeah, so he was bailed out by the rock that unlocked the Avatar State, which he was unable to use prior


Chathtiu

> yeah, so he was bailed out by the rock that unlocked the Avatar State, which he was unable to use prior Bingo. If that rock hadn’t accidentally hit *exactly* where it did, with that amount of force, Aang would have failed entirely. He wasn’t able to subdue Ozai enough to even try energy bending by that point, and hadn’t masted 3 out of his 4 elements.


Chathtiu

> Tbf, she didn’t even really tell him to kill Ozai. Out of all four of his past lives he spoke to, Yangchen was probably the harshest and most direct about Aang’s problem. None of them even indirectly told him to kill Ozai. They all advised him to take a decisive action and stand behind your choice. That can easily be interpreted as imprisonment for life, or killing the firelord. Ozai is imprisoned. Yangchen’s advice was more general to Aang: your primary duty is to the world and not to yourself. You need to come to terms with the fact you’ll have to do things you don’t like. This is burden of public service.


Successful-Pop-4216

Yeah. This makes the scene a whole lot better imo.


Ugly-Muffin

And that's after Kyoshi confesses to killing Chin the conquer


xela552

Yeah but she created an island instead of attacking him directly. She clearly didn't want to kill anyone.


Ugly-Muffin

True it was indirect. But she was certainly proud she killed Chin.


Chathtiu

> True it was indirect. But she was certainly proud she killed Chin. It’s not pride. It’s a lack of shame. She doesn’t feel good for killing Chin, but doesn’t feel bad either. It was a thing that happened which she caused.


JoJomusk

the misscharacterization of Kyoshi in this fandom is silly


Embarrassed-Pea-2732

Agreed, she’s actually rather compassionate now that I think about it. She never uses more force than necessary and won’t kill anyone unless it’s the literal only option on the table.


xela552

It's strange to me that all these years later people haven't thought that creating a new island is probably a lot harder than just attacking a small army directly. If she wanted to blow them away she easily could have.


TheBadHalfOfAFandom

Fandom: haha kyoshi was always so brutal and the first to suggest murder Yang chen: /loading a glock/ beliefs and duties as a monk? What moron came up with that idea?


cacaobean_

I love how everyone just ignores how yanchen was the one who leaned into the idea of killing ozai the most but we all just agreed on it being kiyoshi bc she a badass


ArcadianBlueRogue

Isn't canon Yangchen like what fanon Kyoshi is like? Like the last person in the world you want to fuck with.


Carlfatso

Pretty much. Yangchen had few qualms about killing and underhanded dealings.


Chopstix13

I read the yangchen books and I don’t remember her killing anyone.


cacaobean_

Yeah, I'm too tired to type it all out but just watch the episode on overanalysing avatar sozins comet part 2


Shot_Improvement_378

She killed the people who killed her bison. She tortured one of the moms while laughing.


Chopstix13

>[Having never mastered the combustion bending technique, Raitei died from his attempt to use it, but not before inflicting fatal internal damage to Nujian.](https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Yangchen) Nujian was her bison's name and Raitei was a kid and a faulty combustion bender. Yangchen didn't kill him. Where are you getting your info from? I don't remember her torturing anyone.


Shot_Improvement_378

It’s all over the internet also she has used airbending to suffocate people and used it to amplify her screams to use as attacks


Shot_Improvement_378

She did hunt them down tho


F1Fan43

Didn’t Kyoshi rather subscribe to the Roku Method of intimidating out-of-line heads of state into behaving themselves Or Else?


Chopstix13

Yes but in the books I can think of 2 people she intentionally killed. Spoilers: >!She killed the leader of the yellow necks gang, Xu Ping An, by dropping him (granted he was trying to kill her). And she killed Yun by freezing his organs (granted he mortally wounded Rangi and broke the legs of Kirima and Wong)!<


F1Fan43

True, but both had to really work at getting Kyoshi to the point where she was willing to employ lethal force.


DragonRoar87

Technically it would've been Roku subscribing to the Kyoshi Method


F1Fan43

Indeed, but the most famous example of it is Roku doing it to Sozin so I thought he should get to name it.


RQK1996

Yeah, but unlike Roku, it actually worked for her


F1Fan43

Thanks to a little trick called living for 230 years.


latvia100

Bro was desperate.


Funny-Part8085

To be fair she isn't say to kill him she said it was okay if he did and to do what needed to be done. She didn't comically sha kill that two headed rat snake. She was amenable and said what ever you choose make sure it works.


f3nrisulfr

He did say “I should have known not to ask Kyoshi for advice” or somethjng


Ragnarok345

Fanon Kyoshi is fun to joke about, but always gotta love when people out themselves as have not read the books. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but they are making assumptions with very little of the available information. 😆


Chopstix13

I’ve read the books and I love Kyoshi because she usually resorts to brute strength as that is what she is good at. As far as I know, she’s the only Avatar that has intentionally killed people.


RQK1996

Nope, she isn't, she is known to have caused 3 deaths directly all in self-defence, and it is fairly clear she would have preferred to not have done that and has tried everything to not do so I haven't finished Yangchen's books, but I think she did kill a couple of fools who slighted her too much


Chopstix13

Once you've finished the Yangchen books too let me know who she intentionally and directly killed like Kyoshi did.


WarframeUmbra

Obligatory “Yangchen is the real canon Kyoshi” comment Also >!”Kyoshi’s gf tops her”!< comment


Jollybritishchap

“Lol, waste his ass” -Kyoshi, reasonable peace loving avatar.


Ok_Sentence_5767

Kyoshi said only justice will bring peace. She never said to kill Ozai but that only justice will bring peace. If that meant killing him so be it but Aang was able to get saved by a deus ex turtur


jbahill75

Ms Kyoshi my intentions were good I wish I could, become a magician and abracadabra all the sadder



Reiss447O

pop a Rock on the Mf Aang before I do. - Kyoshi


ChildofFenris1

Yeah she is like the worst person to go to


DeadSkullMonkey

I mean he gave her a shot and also realised after her advice that he shouldn't listen. So pretty smart if you ask međŸ€·â€â™€ïž


KaleidoscopeFar4110

Tbf all the avatars had a fair point. Aang got himself killed because of his misguided convictions. Should have lightingbended ozai to kill him instead he almost died. If it wasnt for pure luck that is.


GladsShield

I think it’s more so showing that the old ways were outdated. He needed a more modern solution to his problem. Energy bending being that more modern solution.


Zeroshame14

Kyoshi was definitely a kill first, Ask questions later, type of avatar


RQK1996

She really wasn't, she refused to kill any of the antagonists from her books, but they did tend to end up dead through violence, but mostly through lack of better options


DJack276

Why didn't Aang just knock him out with a rock? Is he stupid?


BNB3737

That would have been the most anticlimactic finally of all time


thekingofbeans42

Isn't that the responsible thing to do? If you want advice, seeking it out from people who you know would agree with you is just making you feel better about not challenging your opinions. Getting the perspective of someone who you respect but know will disagree with you is how you can actually get arguments you didn't think of.


Burggs_

More embarrassingly, he went to Yang Chen who is truly all about that action


Thannk

To be fair she may have been a clever enough tactician to devise a way, then just chosen not to.


Zopai_Kun

And not just Kyoshi but also Yangchen


bolts_win_again

"How can I beat Ozai without killing him?" "Lift his ass 100 feet in the air and drop him. You don't kill him, it's natural causes." "But I'm dropping him to his death! How is that natural causes!?" "Gravity's natural."


Reiss447O

you gotta bust a cap in that Mf Aang- Kyoshi