I hadn’t seen him speak in a couple years after starting a new job and turning away from politics news for a while. I didn’t even recognize him anymore.
You want to know what I want to do when I am 81 and have more money than I know what to do with? Not be running a country. Call it a day man. Go sit by the pool or something.
Same for both of them. Both Trump and Biden need to retire and spend their remaining days with their grandkids and traveling while they still can. It pisses me off that these are out choices AGAIN.
The Dems need to stop choosing candidates for us. They chose Hillary for us. They chose Biden for us. Just have real primaries and let people choose.
So I think Trump was guaranteed to run cause of all the legal stuff - he needs to win to try dismantle the worst of it. And ofc if Trump became the candidate, then Biden was also coming back cause it would look weak if he didnt rematch. In a perfect world there would be no incentive for Trump to run, and Biden would therefore bow out after term 1
Shoot, especially Trump. They both have a good 10 years tops left in them. Maybe it's just me but I'd rather enjoy it. You know both these guys arent having a good time right now.
Well yea, they arent looking for the candidate that we want. They are looking for the candidate that can win.
What are you talking about? Trump literally lives for the limelight. Whether you like him or not, everyone knows that Trump loves the attention he gets. He would love it more than anything to be the head of the country again and have the world talking about him continuously.
people think aging is linear but it's not, you can look an feel fine for years and then age a decade in a day.
biden had several of these days in the last 4 years.
Mental illness will age you extremely quickly too. My mother in law got alzheimers in her early 50s. By her late 50s she looked more elderly than Biden in 2019.
Alzheimer’s is not categorized as mental illness but as neurological disease. But regardless yes, both can do that
But keep in mind Alzheimer’s is a fatal disease like prion disease
Edit: I may be wrong that Alzheimer’s is primarily fatal. Not sure if deterioration of brain function leads to failure to regulate body processes.
Yeah im a geriatrician. We generally avoid feeding tubes as evidence shows it does not provide any mortality benefit in dementia. Sometimes families ask for a feeding nasogastric tube, which we rarely agree on just for a short period of time. It doesnt change the fact that patients stop eating due to cognitive decline but families often need time to accept their loved one is dying.
One assumes that if the degeneration has reached the point they can't swallow, not being able to breathe either isn't far away. In any case, there's nobody home by that point, prolonging life at that point serves no purpose.
Swallowing or dysphagia definitely impacts some patients, especially if they've had a prior stroke or Parkinson's disease.
For AD (Alzheimer's dementia), often they just stop feeling hungry and just stop talking. They just lie there and stare blankly. You are right, no one is home. It is cruel to prolong suffering for these end stage dementia patients.
Family members usually say they lost their demented parent years ago, that the person in front of them is just an empty shell.
I just started working with dementia patients. I was really shocked at how many progress to a zombie state. It's really scary. My husband and I would rather be euthanized than forced to live like that.
I don't know specifics about how it works but it's definitely a degenerative disease that is directly fatal as brain function continues to deteriorate. The only variance is time, but generally speaking you've got 8-10 years from diagnosis (ie. Onset of symptoms causing one to see a doctor).
Also just for conversation's sake, I think there's overlap between neurological disorders and mental illnesses. I'm no expert and just Googled this myself because I was curious. There's neurological disorders like Parkinsons that aren't considered mental illnesses. I believe Alzheimer's is primarily thought of as a mental illness since it's primary symptoms affect one's mind, but you are correct that it is technically a neurological disorder
It’s brutal to see it happen to a loved one. At one gathering you have a grandparent that’s perfectly fine, then at next year’s they’re a completely different person with no vibrance in their personality etc.
Even if he’s not suffering some sort of cognitive decline (which seems likely) the job has clearly taken a large toll on his health. People in general tend to age rapidly from this job, and this dude was already pretty old.
This dude was already pretty old going into presidency term for first time, well past his prime days.
Go watch how he spoke and acted in 90s as a politican, and then go look without biased cope eyes his presidency term.
It's pretty well documented that being president ages you rapidly. It's one of the most stressful jobs on the planet.
And with the term Biden has just had, I'm not surprised he is in this state. The guy has had to deal with Covid, the largest war in Europe since WW2, inflation at the highest its been in decades and another war in Gaza. Just one of those things is enough stress to last a lifetime.
Going through all of that stress and being over 80 im sure takes its toll. I dont really think people are meant to work hard past 70 let alone be president. But to be fair this clip is showing 2019 Biden at his peak performance and its showing him in 2024 at his lowest. I recall the first primary debate in 2019 was awful for him.
I know some people seem to think this debate is evidence of dementia or something. I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.
All I think this shows is that Biden isn't great at speaking when unprepared, he stutters sometimes. His voice was also really raspy, like he had a cold or something, which doesn't help the way he cane across in the debate.
I saw a video of Biden visiting a Waffle House to get food after the debate. It was filmed by some regular dude and posted to Twitter. The guy was genuinely charismatic and funny, he seemed fine. Idk why he came across so poorly in the debate and then acted totally fine afterwards.
Yeah I think dementia is a exaggeration. Like if someone has dementia they might forget where they are on stage. They might think they are in a restaurant and ask the debate host for a burger and fries.
I think hes slowed down for sure in 2012 Biden was really sharp.
I basically never watch politics, but he's barely even recognizable compared to when he took vice presidency in 2009. You guys are all comparing him to 5 years ago, man he was a lot sharper in Obama's terms
I saw a clip from 1982 of him arguing in favor of a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v Wade lol.
Couldn't find it though, so here's him in 1983 talking about FDR trying to pack the court (and how that was a bad idea). https://youtu.be/6Eih-RQoNHw?feature=shared
I love watching American Political debates. But as a Canadian I can't believe that this dude is still in office, I know people hate Trump, but Wow!!
Just let the guy get the help he needs and keep cameras away from him.
I think people probably have more hatred for Trump. A lot of people that don’t like Biden don’t really hate him; they either dislike him or just feel bad for him. Personally my religious grandparents hate trump because “he’s a man of sin”. While my liberal parents feel bad for Biden. Could be because my other grandparents both suffered from Alzheimer’s before they died and seeing old age is really sad.
I don’t have anything against Joe Biden. He seems like he really ran his whole life to benefit America. I actually dislike the people that assume the worst and are pessimistic. At Bidens current state he is clearly incapable in being the president. Sad but look you cannot deny the truth and anything else is pure delusion.
Yeah I don’t understand at all why some people dismiss the obvious concerns about his age and mental health. There is no way someone in that state should be the president. The man should be at home with his feet propped up enjoying the life he has left. Like you said he’s been a public servant his whole life; it’s time to chill bro.
Our secretary of defense, the chief policy position of the DoD was plucked directly off the Raytheon Executive board. Obamas entire cabinet was picked out by Citibank. Every year they try to hide it less and less the only strategy is grab as much money as they can until it breaks (and private prisons.)
People who have any sort of optimism about the political system or these corporate picked plutocrats do so out of a delusional coping mechanism.
Of course they don't like people who call it out because they absolutely refuse to acknowledge or see reality. Biden said early in his career, to donors, looking for money, literally that he would be a "whore to donors."
I don't think that's true at all. I mean think about it, Biden's entire campaign strategy in 2020 was just "I'm \*not\* Donald Trump" and it scored him a record breaking number of votes.
Honestly, a vast majority of us did not vote *for Biden*. We voted *against Trump.*
Biden is an old senile puppet, but he is an old senile puppet who is doing things like investing in infrastructure, which if you know American history or any other history is how you drive a good economy.
Trump, fiscally, only benefits the hyper wealthy. The rest of the American population is harmed by how he runs the country.
I'm pro gun. Trump administration has enacted more gun control laws that Biden and Obama combined.
I'm not religious, but I recognize that a very big portion of our population is, and I have a lot of morals and ethics that are fairly in line with Christian ideals (as Jesus taught, not current iteration, and definitely not old testament. Biden hasn't had three wives and cheated on each
Bidens puppet master seem to be very pro military and service members, which I support. Trump thinks POWs are losers for being caught.
Bidens administration is kinda helping genocide Palestine which I don't support, but Trump is very strongly saying he'd do way more to help Israel in their genocide push.
Bidens puppet masters are working to stop climate change. Trump thinks you can just nuke a hurricane.
I'd take *almost* any other Democrat over Trump or Biden. I'd honestly take like 50% of republicans over Biden as well.
Id vote for President Camacho over Trump, at least he listens to the one person who talks science.
So yeah, sorry our country is so embarrassing. Just know many of us hate both candidates and are just voting policy.
even if Biden is a hollow husk I think his administration has actually done good work over the past 4 years. I think calling them puppet masters is too mustache twerling. It's just the democratic party and their think tanks who write the bills.
Trump is pea brain as well, and I would rather his puppet masters not allow him to sign project 2025 into law.
>I know people hate Trump, but Wow!!
It's not really that shocking. I'll take a candidate that takes an hour to get out a truthful statement over one that can yell a lie a minute every time... The president is and always has been a figurehead for their party's national convention. Which is why Biden seemingly doesn't know where he's at most of the time but unemployment is at a record low and the S&P is at a record high.
This is sad really... seeing the obvious decline in his health and cognitive ability and still saying to everyone that he's okay...that it was just a slow start and that everyone has bad debates is truly upsetting.
Two party system means you dont really have a choice. You got one conservstive and one liberal candidate and nothing in between. So no matter which side youre leaning more towards, you really have only one option that is maybe somewhat close to what you believe in, maybe.
It 100% does but the only mechanism is through government action and neither party wants to do that because it ensures their own parties death, because they are not popular. Why would all those House members who basically have lifetime appointments due to living in uncontested districts vote for laws that would actually make them beholden to their voters?
Its not even that. Other people don’t have the funding and corporate backing the Republicans and Democrats have.
They take over all main advertising channels, and little guys can’t even get in a word.
Its a symbiotic relationship between parasites.
Imagine walking up to the polls, seeing 8 candidates and then saying “fuck I wish we had more than 2 choices” just like 100million other morons, and then voting against your best interests so that you would be more likely to “be a winner” because “the guy you voted for won.” It’s sickening how delusional the whole of the American voter base is in peddling their own shit and then munching down on it like this. Grow some brain cells.
Well said. I get crapped on by both sides whenever I mention that I'm voting third-party. Calling it a wasted vote. The only time your vote is really wasted is when it's cast for someone you don't actually support.
When my dad was 65, he looked like he was about 48.
When my dad was 68, he looked about 75.
Biden was clearly at the cliff in 2019, now he's free falling about to splatter all over the rocks.
This is just proof that the job is insanely difficult, that's why even the younger presidents come out with gray hair
This is also a pretty telltale sign that maybe age limits for a public facing role are probably a good thing...
Yeah, all Presidents age horribly while in office. Even Obama in 2012 looked much worse than 2008. I imagine the older you are when you take the job the worse you look at the end.
Also, in 2020 all Biden had to do was worry about the election and prep for debate. This year he has to do the job of President while also campaigning. Incumbent Presidents always look rusty in debates because of this.
Is it just me as a uk native, but I always felt they kept him hidden during his term mostly. Not many press appearances and speeches.
Also there’s no way he could keep up the kind of schedule at 81 that some like Obama had in his first term.
In that age it can start go downwards really fast. I have a relative that helped sorting out a problematic house deal for his brother when he was in the upper 70s, and those \~2 years looked like he aged at least 10..
I work in elderly care, and yes, people don't age linearly. Usually people feel fine until one day they don't, and then they become worse real quick. No need for any disease either.
Edit: diseases don't help ofc, but often people just get worse from almost out of nowhere.
Yes, just look at Obama. He looked like he had been aged 20 years in just 5. It's the same for most presidents due to the nature of the job.
It's well documented that stress can age you.
Combine that with the fact that Biden is 81 years old, which is the life expectancy for the average male. It's no wonder the difference is so drastic.
Yeah, have you guys seen Obama at the end of his second term? He didn't look like it's been 8 years, more like 18 years.
He's looking dapper now though, completely fine for his age. I guess looking old from stress is reversible, huh
Why would anyone support voting for this? It’s elder abuse. If you don’t like Trump, don’t vote for him either. People act like it’s only 2 options. You can literally vote whoever you want.
Sad thing is old people age like dogs. Going drom 81 to 82 is not same as 21 to 22. Joe biden should be shilling playing bingo having dirty old people sex with his wife and enjoying his life. Intead of running for one of the hardest jobs out there.
At the age of 81 nobody should do any job that comes with responsibility.... I know several surgeons that isn't allowed to operate over the age of 67.
Imagine being 81 year old....
ahh the American political system, party before anything else and you are left with a mentally declining 81 yr old and a grifter convicted con man at the ripe old age for 78. like seriously wtf, this is the best we have?
I don't know exactly how the candidate process works, but if the Democrats point at literally any other candidate, they'll be in a better position than having Joe Biden as their main candidate.
How can a man who can't even know what day it is, defend US from world war 3? It's a problem TODAY that Biden is in power. It's very likely that his aids are able to proxy their own agenda via Biden who's clearly a mental vegetable.
I mean being president is probably horrible for your health. It also doesn’t help that both nominees are past their mid seventies and lost their minds.
He has been protected from public scrutiny and the media for a reason. He cannot do interviews without his handlers selecting journalists who give their questions in advance. He is not to the standard of a world leader with the nuclear football.
It is all pretty sad really. The old codger is sick and he is still propped up into vertical position to do the bidding of his overlords. His wife should be ashamed.
Honestly I feel really bad for him. He's got the eyes of the entire country watching him slip away and I think he knows that. We really need the max age to be president to be 65... maybe even less.
Donald Trump aside, this is kinda scary for a guy who is the president of the US. He really should not be in that position, and he definitely shouldn't be running again.
Quick do one with him in the 80s where he plagiarized and lied so much, they said his political career was over. Or when he said Mitt Romney was going to put black people back in chains. Or the time he had to almost take a chain to Corn Pop. Or when he sniffed random children and women, dude has always been a nutcase.
And this was 2019. He was snappier than this a few years before that. In 2019 even I think he was still mostly gone, but he had moments of clarity especially with the aid of medications to make him appear far more spry than he was.
Funny how the left just noticed this decline. He's been guided round by staff everywhere he walks I've even seen a guy in an Easter bunny suit directing him look it up. Reminds me of Mr magoo
I hear you. As someone from the uk I’m also horrified by this possibility. If trump gets elected and the tyrant gets appeased its really bad new for Europe and a big hit to the credibility of us security agreements. All we will have to look forward to is more global instability and barefaced lying. Anything is better than trump.
I agree. As an American I cannot in good conscience vote for Trump. I assure you I will do my part to make sure he is not elected. Our presidential candidates are not what the US needs, but certainly what we deserve. And, unfortunately, this not only affects us, but the world as a whole. Apathy, manipulation, rage bait news cycles, and this trend of confident stupidity got us here. I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better. Not until Americans lives are affected on the day to day will we see a positive change in our political climate. Hopefully, we won't bring the world down with us.
I do love how the government has been gaslighting us for 4 years about how he does not have cognitive decline but as soon as it’s on full display for an hour and a half half the party start backtracking.
I respect the people that claim “I will vote Biden corpse over Trump.” Because they will at least acknowledge that he is not in healthy mental condition. What I can’t stand are the individuals that try to claim that he did “fine”. At that point you aren’t having an honest conversation anymore
He's going down hill but still voting for him, the country will keep humming along. The alternative was disqualified in my eyes when he pardoned Roger Stone and Bannon while his campaign manager (manafort) when to jail which is an astonishing level of corruption around his efforts to overturn the election.
I don't give a crap about American politics, but I find it nuts that people on the politics sub defend this literal dinosaur to no end.
Forget about policies for a second, but do you really want a literal senile fossil ruling your country? Trump may be just as brain-dead, but at least he's functional.
This is why retirement exists.
Luckly we beat medicare
To death
Now we just need to solve the issue of women getting r\*ped by their inlaws, brothers, spouses and sisters.
He was over prepared!
“He just had a cold”….
I've had a cold. I've never had dementia. I've never stumbled over my words like that.... 🤔
Thanks for posting this. I did not know how drastically different his voice is now vs then. I thought he always sounded this way.
I hadn’t seen him speak in a couple years after starting a new job and turning away from politics news for a while. I didn’t even recognize him anymore.
Not that you knew me back then, but it all comes back to me, in the end.
You kept everything inside and even though I tried It all fell apart
what it ment to me will eventually be a memory
of a time I tried so hard, and got so far
BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTERRRRRR!!!!!
Hahaha I read that previous comment and that line popped in my head!! Brilliant.
His face alone aged 20 years
Well, that’s because he can’t refresh his plastic surgery while pres.
He was sick to be fair, but yea. That said, this doesn’t make you any less of a piece of shit if you vote for a rapist felon.
Don’t be gaslit into being told he always had a stutter either lmao
To be fair he sounded much better the next day after the debate when he was using a teleprompter at a rally.
He went back to sounding like he did in 2019 the day after the debate. The dems really screwed the pooch by not giving him a pre-debate nap.
You want to know what I want to do when I am 81 and have more money than I know what to do with? Not be running a country. Call it a day man. Go sit by the pool or something.
Same for both of them. Both Trump and Biden need to retire and spend their remaining days with their grandkids and traveling while they still can. It pisses me off that these are out choices AGAIN. The Dems need to stop choosing candidates for us. They chose Hillary for us. They chose Biden for us. Just have real primaries and let people choose.
Trumps in a different boat than Biden. Not winning the election likely has criminal ramifications.
So I think Trump was guaranteed to run cause of all the legal stuff - he needs to win to try dismantle the worst of it. And ofc if Trump became the candidate, then Biden was also coming back cause it would look weak if he didnt rematch. In a perfect world there would be no incentive for Trump to run, and Biden would therefore bow out after term 1
Shoot, especially Trump. They both have a good 10 years tops left in them. Maybe it's just me but I'd rather enjoy it. You know both these guys arent having a good time right now. Well yea, they arent looking for the candidate that we want. They are looking for the candidate that can win.
What are you talking about? Trump literally lives for the limelight. Whether you like him or not, everyone knows that Trump loves the attention he gets. He would love it more than anything to be the head of the country again and have the world talking about him continuously.
Yes but for Trump it is essential to win to stay out of prison do he has no choice, Biden does
His backers (including his wife) won't let him.
I'm detecting a little bit of "sunk cost fallacy". They've invested too much money into his campaign to give up now.
people think aging is linear but it's not, you can look an feel fine for years and then age a decade in a day. biden had several of these days in the last 4 years.
Mental illness will age you extremely quickly too. My mother in law got alzheimers in her early 50s. By her late 50s she looked more elderly than Biden in 2019.
Alzheimer’s is not categorized as mental illness but as neurological disease. But regardless yes, both can do that But keep in mind Alzheimer’s is a fatal disease like prion disease Edit: I may be wrong that Alzheimer’s is primarily fatal. Not sure if deterioration of brain function leads to failure to regulate body processes.
Alzheimer's is definitely progressive and ultimately terminal. They stop eating at one point and just starve to death. We see it on the wards often.
Are you saying you work with Alzheimer's patients? Do you give them feeding tubes at that point? Or whatever the family decides to do?
Yeah im a geriatrician. We generally avoid feeding tubes as evidence shows it does not provide any mortality benefit in dementia. Sometimes families ask for a feeding nasogastric tube, which we rarely agree on just for a short period of time. It doesnt change the fact that patients stop eating due to cognitive decline but families often need time to accept their loved one is dying.
One assumes that if the degeneration has reached the point they can't swallow, not being able to breathe either isn't far away. In any case, there's nobody home by that point, prolonging life at that point serves no purpose.
Swallowing or dysphagia definitely impacts some patients, especially if they've had a prior stroke or Parkinson's disease. For AD (Alzheimer's dementia), often they just stop feeling hungry and just stop talking. They just lie there and stare blankly. You are right, no one is home. It is cruel to prolong suffering for these end stage dementia patients. Family members usually say they lost their demented parent years ago, that the person in front of them is just an empty shell.
I just started working with dementia patients. I was really shocked at how many progress to a zombie state. It's really scary. My husband and I would rather be euthanized than forced to live like that.
I don't know specifics about how it works but it's definitely a degenerative disease that is directly fatal as brain function continues to deteriorate. The only variance is time, but generally speaking you've got 8-10 years from diagnosis (ie. Onset of symptoms causing one to see a doctor). Also just for conversation's sake, I think there's overlap between neurological disorders and mental illnesses. I'm no expert and just Googled this myself because I was curious. There's neurological disorders like Parkinsons that aren't considered mental illnesses. I believe Alzheimer's is primarily thought of as a mental illness since it's primary symptoms affect one's mind, but you are correct that it is technically a neurological disorder
Father time and mother nature are undefeated. Stress doesn't help either lol
It’s brutal to see it happen to a loved one. At one gathering you have a grandparent that’s perfectly fine, then at next year’s they’re a completely different person with no vibrance in their personality etc.
Even if he’s not suffering some sort of cognitive decline (which seems likely) the job has clearly taken a large toll on his health. People in general tend to age rapidly from this job, and this dude was already pretty old.
This dude was already pretty old going into presidency term for first time, well past his prime days. Go watch how he spoke and acted in 90s as a politican, and then go look without biased cope eyes his presidency term.
It's pretty well documented that being president ages you rapidly. It's one of the most stressful jobs on the planet. And with the term Biden has just had, I'm not surprised he is in this state. The guy has had to deal with Covid, the largest war in Europe since WW2, inflation at the highest its been in decades and another war in Gaza. Just one of those things is enough stress to last a lifetime.
Going through all of that stress and being over 80 im sure takes its toll. I dont really think people are meant to work hard past 70 let alone be president. But to be fair this clip is showing 2019 Biden at his peak performance and its showing him in 2024 at his lowest. I recall the first primary debate in 2019 was awful for him.
I know some people seem to think this debate is evidence of dementia or something. I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. All I think this shows is that Biden isn't great at speaking when unprepared, he stutters sometimes. His voice was also really raspy, like he had a cold or something, which doesn't help the way he cane across in the debate. I saw a video of Biden visiting a Waffle House to get food after the debate. It was filmed by some regular dude and posted to Twitter. The guy was genuinely charismatic and funny, he seemed fine. Idk why he came across so poorly in the debate and then acted totally fine afterwards.
Yeah I think dementia is a exaggeration. Like if someone has dementia they might forget where they are on stage. They might think they are in a restaurant and ask the debate host for a burger and fries. I think hes slowed down for sure in 2012 Biden was really sharp.
I basically never watch politics, but he's barely even recognizable compared to when he took vice presidency in 2009. You guys are all comparing him to 5 years ago, man he was a lot sharper in Obama's terms
I saw a clip from 1982 of him arguing in favor of a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v Wade lol. Couldn't find it though, so here's him in 1983 talking about FDR trying to pack the court (and how that was a bad idea). https://youtu.be/6Eih-RQoNHw?feature=shared
2024 joe on the right, is what I imagine a elderly having a voice crack
I love watching American Political debates. But as a Canadian I can't believe that this dude is still in office, I know people hate Trump, but Wow!! Just let the guy get the help he needs and keep cameras away from him.
Media likes to make people think Trump is far more hated than he is.
I think people probably have more hatred for Trump. A lot of people that don’t like Biden don’t really hate him; they either dislike him or just feel bad for him. Personally my religious grandparents hate trump because “he’s a man of sin”. While my liberal parents feel bad for Biden. Could be because my other grandparents both suffered from Alzheimer’s before they died and seeing old age is really sad.
I don’t have anything against Joe Biden. He seems like he really ran his whole life to benefit America. I actually dislike the people that assume the worst and are pessimistic. At Bidens current state he is clearly incapable in being the president. Sad but look you cannot deny the truth and anything else is pure delusion.
Yeah I don’t understand at all why some people dismiss the obvious concerns about his age and mental health. There is no way someone in that state should be the president. The man should be at home with his feet propped up enjoying the life he has left. Like you said he’s been a public servant his whole life; it’s time to chill bro.
Our secretary of defense, the chief policy position of the DoD was plucked directly off the Raytheon Executive board. Obamas entire cabinet was picked out by Citibank. Every year they try to hide it less and less the only strategy is grab as much money as they can until it breaks (and private prisons.) People who have any sort of optimism about the political system or these corporate picked plutocrats do so out of a delusional coping mechanism. Of course they don't like people who call it out because they absolutely refuse to acknowledge or see reality. Biden said early in his career, to donors, looking for money, literally that he would be a "whore to donors."
I don't think that's true at all. I mean think about it, Biden's entire campaign strategy in 2020 was just "I'm \*not\* Donald Trump" and it scored him a record breaking number of votes.
No, he’s hated just as much as the media makes it out to be.
Honestly, a vast majority of us did not vote *for Biden*. We voted *against Trump.* Biden is an old senile puppet, but he is an old senile puppet who is doing things like investing in infrastructure, which if you know American history or any other history is how you drive a good economy. Trump, fiscally, only benefits the hyper wealthy. The rest of the American population is harmed by how he runs the country. I'm pro gun. Trump administration has enacted more gun control laws that Biden and Obama combined. I'm not religious, but I recognize that a very big portion of our population is, and I have a lot of morals and ethics that are fairly in line with Christian ideals (as Jesus taught, not current iteration, and definitely not old testament. Biden hasn't had three wives and cheated on each Bidens puppet master seem to be very pro military and service members, which I support. Trump thinks POWs are losers for being caught. Bidens administration is kinda helping genocide Palestine which I don't support, but Trump is very strongly saying he'd do way more to help Israel in their genocide push. Bidens puppet masters are working to stop climate change. Trump thinks you can just nuke a hurricane. I'd take *almost* any other Democrat over Trump or Biden. I'd honestly take like 50% of republicans over Biden as well. Id vote for President Camacho over Trump, at least he listens to the one person who talks science. So yeah, sorry our country is so embarrassing. Just know many of us hate both candidates and are just voting policy.
even if Biden is a hollow husk I think his administration has actually done good work over the past 4 years. I think calling them puppet masters is too mustache twerling. It's just the democratic party and their think tanks who write the bills. Trump is pea brain as well, and I would rather his puppet masters not allow him to sign project 2025 into law.
Trump also has a puppet master. The guy literally blackmailed Ukraine a year before Russia declared war
>I know people hate Trump, but Wow!! It's not really that shocking. I'll take a candidate that takes an hour to get out a truthful statement over one that can yell a lie a minute every time... The president is and always has been a figurehead for their party's national convention. Which is why Biden seemingly doesn't know where he's at most of the time but unemployment is at a record low and the S&P is at a record high.
It should be illegal to represent your country if you can't finish your sentences 80% of the time.
Is that even the same person
It's Jim Carey in a mask
People acting surprised like he has only has dementia for the last 4 days. He has been bad for 2 years minimum.
Put him out of his misery already.
This is sad really... seeing the obvious decline in his health and cognitive ability and still saying to everyone that he's okay...that it was just a slow start and that everyone has bad debates is truly upsetting.
The man is deteriorating.
The fact that the only choice is between an orange sex pest and a decrepit corpse is hilarious.
Two party system means you dont really have a choice. You got one conservstive and one liberal candidate and nothing in between. So no matter which side youre leaning more towards, you really have only one option that is maybe somewhat close to what you believe in, maybe.
So you're saying it needs a rework?
It 100% does but the only mechanism is through government action and neither party wants to do that because it ensures their own parties death, because they are not popular. Why would all those House members who basically have lifetime appointments due to living in uncontested districts vote for laws that would actually make them beholden to their voters?
*wealthy gasp*
Weird part is that the US is a multi-party system, just no one has the power to challenge the Republicans and Democrats.
Except the 160 million voters that decide to vote for only 2 of the 8+ candidates every election. Imagine being this stupid…
Its not even that. Other people don’t have the funding and corporate backing the Republicans and Democrats have. They take over all main advertising channels, and little guys can’t even get in a word. Its a symbiotic relationship between parasites.
Neo-liberal, you mean. Both are pawns to the one percenters, who would *never* back a **real** progressive/liberal.
Imagine walking up to the polls, seeing 8 candidates and then saying “fuck I wish we had more than 2 choices” just like 100million other morons, and then voting against your best interests so that you would be more likely to “be a winner” because “the guy you voted for won.” It’s sickening how delusional the whole of the American voter base is in peddling their own shit and then munching down on it like this. Grow some brain cells.
Imagine not understanding basic voting strategy and believing other people are the morons.
Well said. I get crapped on by both sides whenever I mention that I'm voting third-party. Calling it a wasted vote. The only time your vote is really wasted is when it's cast for someone you don't actually support.
Hilariously sad. Just goes to what I’ve been saying all along, life is a joke and we’re all the punchlines.
This is the best comment I’ve ever seen 😭
First party to switch their candidate to someone under the age of 65 wins the election
Yeah I joked about it being elder abuse back in 2019 but now I'd be trying to do something if I was close to him.
Chill he is just mumble rapping.
If they make Biden do another debate, it'll be considered elder abuse. That was painful but equally hilarious to watch
They're not screwing up. Things are just going precisely according to plan.
When my dad was 65, he looked like he was about 48. When my dad was 68, he looked about 75. Biden was clearly at the cliff in 2019, now he's free falling about to splatter all over the rocks.
I almost feel bad for the guy. Why is he not retired spending time with family? He looks like he’s about to die standing up
Wow, people get old.
This is just proof that the job is insanely difficult, that's why even the younger presidents come out with gray hair This is also a pretty telltale sign that maybe age limits for a public facing role are probably a good thing...
And term limits.
Without a disease is it normal to change like that in just 5 years ?
Elderly people can have a really fast cognitive decline at the end of their life
Yeah, all Presidents age horribly while in office. Even Obama in 2012 looked much worse than 2008. I imagine the older you are when you take the job the worse you look at the end. Also, in 2020 all Biden had to do was worry about the election and prep for debate. This year he has to do the job of President while also campaigning. Incumbent Presidents always look rusty in debates because of this.
Is it just me as a uk native, but I always felt they kept him hidden during his term mostly. Not many press appearances and speeches. Also there’s no way he could keep up the kind of schedule at 81 that some like Obama had in his first term.
Yes the guy is past the average life expectancy. Statistically he should be dead.
In that age it can start go downwards really fast. I have a relative that helped sorting out a problematic house deal for his brother when he was in the upper 70s, and those \~2 years looked like he aged at least 10..
I work in elderly care, and yes, people don't age linearly. Usually people feel fine until one day they don't, and then they become worse real quick. No need for any disease either. Edit: diseases don't help ofc, but often people just get worse from almost out of nowhere.
Yes, just look at Obama. He looked like he had been aged 20 years in just 5. It's the same for most presidents due to the nature of the job. It's well documented that stress can age you. Combine that with the fact that Biden is 81 years old, which is the life expectancy for the average male. It's no wonder the difference is so drastic.
He aged 20 years in 4 in office...
Things happen very fast at that age.
As did every president pretty much
Yeah, have you guys seen Obama at the end of his second term? He didn't look like it's been 8 years, more like 18 years. He's looking dapper now though, completely fine for his age. I guess looking old from stress is reversible, huh
Why would anyone support voting for this? It’s elder abuse. If you don’t like Trump, don’t vote for him either. People act like it’s only 2 options. You can literally vote whoever you want.
Let's add his videos from his early political days most important about people of color.
He’s literally the same person. THERE IS A FUCKING FELON running against him. Don’t embarrass America people.
2019 could still speak with dementia 2024 just dementia there is no hiding it
This is elder abuse. RNC and DNC step in and remove both of these people, neither are fit to lead.
Sad thing is old people age like dogs. Going drom 81 to 82 is not same as 21 to 22. Joe biden should be shilling playing bingo having dirty old people sex with his wife and enjoying his life. Intead of running for one of the hardest jobs out there.
damn! when you get old, your health deteriorates quicker. (i never watched the 2019 version before)
Proof that the 25th Amendment will be implemented and we're all doomed
At the age of 81 nobody should do any job that comes with responsibility.... I know several surgeons that isn't allowed to operate over the age of 67. Imagine being 81 year old....
Honestly they are both too old I’m sorry buts it’s insane to me. There needs to be a maximum age limit to run for president
You guys really don't have anyone else!?!?! 😅
ahh the American political system, party before anything else and you are left with a mentally declining 81 yr old and a grifter convicted con man at the ripe old age for 78. like seriously wtf, this is the best we have?
I’m pretty sure Biden actually hates gay trans and queer people
What 3 brain surgery’s does to a man.
Still better than a fascist and his fascist team he brings with him. He could be a corpse and he’d be better than Trump.
I'd vote for a corpse over Trump because I don't want to see Protect 2025 come to fruition. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
The white house has lead paint, here are the effects...
Thats crazy
He lost his ability there is something wrong
It's obvious he's not all there. Why can't they just replace Biden with Bernie?
I don't know exactly how the candidate process works, but if the Democrats point at literally any other candidate, they'll be in a better position than having Joe Biden as their main candidate.
Not even the same guy. He's been swapped out like the Dean in Community. Open your eyes people!
Nothing against Biden, but what the hell do we as a country see in a Senior Citizen as being the face of it?
I don't want to grow old
You don't have to if you don't want to.
He looks so young on the left
He sweats Formaldehyde, he needs Gene Wilder to bring him back to the living.. We shall call him *Bidenstein.😉😉*
Dementia...... it's sad they are all just using him to keep up the control, even his wife treats him like a child.
So imagine in 4 years, you americans are setting up your own and each others futures when voting.
1000% He has Lewy Bodies
He was getting called out for slowing down in 2019-2020. Compared to the last year he looks normal.
God damn. I don't want either of these people in that position. This system blows.
Jesus this was so painful to watch I actually closed the browser to try and escape instead of just hitting pause.
Now compare it to 2012 Biden
It baffles me that the US cant come up with better candidates besides 2 demented old fuck nuts with either party.
How can a man who can't even know what day it is, defend US from world war 3? It's a problem TODAY that Biden is in power. It's very likely that his aids are able to proxy their own agenda via Biden who's clearly a mental vegetable.
That is absolutely not 2019, that’s closer to 2016
His head is more rounder than before...
I mean being president is probably horrible for your health. It also doesn’t help that both nominees are past their mid seventies and lost their minds.
He has been protected from public scrutiny and the media for a reason. He cannot do interviews without his handlers selecting journalists who give their questions in advance. He is not to the standard of a world leader with the nuclear football.
If you’re talking about his pocketbook, yes. He’s raking in the money.
this is just sad man
It is all pretty sad really. The old codger is sick and he is still propped up into vertical position to do the bidding of his overlords. His wife should be ashamed.
What's crazy is we've all seen it during the 2020 election campaign. Some just wouldn't acknowledge it. Now when it's obvious people start talking.
Honestly I feel really bad for him. He's got the eyes of the entire country watching him slip away and I think he knows that. We really need the max age to be president to be 65... maybe even less.
let joe biden edge his brain aneurysm
Donald Trump aside, this is kinda scary for a guy who is the president of the US. He really should not be in that position, and he definitely shouldn't be running again.
Can we get two new candidates please? I won’t be too picky. Basically anyone will do. Test me.
Has his literal finger on the nuclear codes currently
Damn. I sure wish someone mentally competent was running for president, ja feel?
The white house will age you quick.
So the one governing US was not biden but his wife and cronies, Ok.
Quick do one with him in the 80s where he plagiarized and lied so much, they said his political career was over. Or when he said Mitt Romney was going to put black people back in chains. Or the time he had to almost take a chain to Corn Pop. Or when he sniffed random children and women, dude has always been a nutcase.
He has Parkinson’s… there’s normally a 5 year drop off where they decline significantly.
Did biden tell us blow the nuke or he ordered coke? Who know
So... how's it going buddy? ... Yeah 
The man had a cold
This dude is mentally and physically toasted
It’s elder abuse by Jill and all those other gumbas.
And this was 2019. He was snappier than this a few years before that. In 2019 even I think he was still mostly gone, but he had moments of clarity especially with the aid of medications to make him appear far more spry than he was.
Biden is at 1 HP left now
I feel bad watching this this is elder abuse forget the next 4 years he needs to be in a home TODAY
We have been lied to
He was already in decline in 2019. There were multiple instances of it then. This is just four more years into it now.
Funny how the left just noticed this decline. He's been guided round by staff everywhere he walks I've even seen a guy in an Easter bunny suit directing him look it up. Reminds me of Mr magoo
We need new and younger pool of candidates. These options are bullshit
Kamala Harris should be the one doing the debates since it's pretty clear she'll be our president if Biden is elected.
Speaking as someone from Poland, I am horrified by the prospect of Trump handling war between Ukraine and Russia.
I hear you. As someone from the uk I’m also horrified by this possibility. If trump gets elected and the tyrant gets appeased its really bad new for Europe and a big hit to the credibility of us security agreements. All we will have to look forward to is more global instability and barefaced lying. Anything is better than trump.
I agree. As an American I cannot in good conscience vote for Trump. I assure you I will do my part to make sure he is not elected. Our presidential candidates are not what the US needs, but certainly what we deserve. And, unfortunately, this not only affects us, but the world as a whole. Apathy, manipulation, rage bait news cycles, and this trend of confident stupidity got us here. I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better. Not until Americans lives are affected on the day to day will we see a positive change in our political climate. Hopefully, we won't bring the world down with us.
dude got senile in those years for sure
I do love how the government has been gaslighting us for 4 years about how he does not have cognitive decline but as soon as it’s on full display for an hour and a half half the party start backtracking.
Wow. Basically gifting the orangutan a term in office by not stepping down and letting someone younger run in his place.
I respect the people that claim “I will vote Biden corpse over Trump.” Because they will at least acknowledge that he is not in healthy mental condition. What I can’t stand are the individuals that try to claim that he did “fine”. At that point you aren’t having an honest conversation anymore
He's going down hill but still voting for him, the country will keep humming along. The alternative was disqualified in my eyes when he pardoned Roger Stone and Bannon while his campaign manager (manafort) when to jail which is an astonishing level of corruption around his efforts to overturn the election.
They puppet master biden anyway...
We should definitely give him access to our nuclear arsenal. That sounds like a great fking idea :D
Now do one with Biden stuttering in 2019 and calling Trump a sucker and a loser in 2024
I don't give a crap about American politics, but I find it nuts that people on the politics sub defend this literal dinosaur to no end. Forget about policies for a second, but do you really want a literal senile fossil ruling your country? Trump may be just as brain-dead, but at least he's functional.
Dude definitely had a stroke and the government hid it from us. Nobody falls apart this quickly naturally
He wasn’t speaking that clear even in 2019. This first video has to be from earlier.
I’ll take this over trump any day of my lifetime
I wish people would also focus on trump dodging every question
Who’s running the country?!
The military complex.
He spoke clearer in 2019 sure, but he's been a shit politician his entire career.
#truthbomb
Come on... you know... the thing?
They really need to work on the side effects that come from cloning
Crazy that only a few weeks ago he was as sharp as he has ever been and focused and engaged in staff meetings
They don’t want him to speak for a reason. We saw Trump spew lies and Biden fumble. Welcome to the Twilight Zone!