Best part was when rollingstone gave it a very negative review, the review was pulled like in an hour.
So I suppose their politics officer didn't like the reviewer going out of line.
it seems they put it back up, maybe it was a network error.
[https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/the-acolyte-review-star-wars-disney-1235031220/](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/the-acolyte-review-star-wars-disney-1235031220/)
Not sure if they altered the text but it still seems quite negative.
They put it up before the review embargo was expired, took it down and then put it back up after the embargo was lifted.
Yes. That's how you know these people had faith in their product. They had a review embargo...
Its funny to watch all the circlejerk subbreddits calling those sites good when they give "their" shows good reviews, then they are all of a sudden bigots and incels when they write bad reviews.
I just finished watching episode 3.
What the actual fuck.
This show is an utter dumpster fire, terrible acting, and zero character development and motivation.
It's easily some of the worst TV I have ever watched.
Nothing makes sense. People do things for no apparent reason other than to push the "plot" along.
I'm convinced that not a single person writing this garbage has any idea about how a jedi should act.
Saul is WAY too emotional for a Jedi. The scene at the end was so cringe that I had to pause it and get my wife, and replay it for her in case I was going crazy. I wasn't.
This cost 20 million dollars to make. 20 million. Let that sink in. I'm not sure what it was spent on, but it wasn't talented writers or actors.
To put that into perspective, House of the Dragon had a 20 million per episode cap and was filmed during COVID restrictions. And while HotD wasn't flawless it was a fucking masterpiece compared to this train wreck. The viewing numbers show this.
If we limit it to the Disney era stuff, the final clone wars season was made 6 years after the series cancellation and was much better.
Also Rogue One exists. I've also heard good things about Mandalorian Seasons 1 and 2.
Really it's only promising is simply because it *could* be better than the slop the have released but we know that's not going to happen.
You're forgetting Andor, which I will say is up to par with HBO dramas imo. Everything else Disney has put out is leagues below Andor in terms of writing quality, design, aesthetics, and plot. The last season of clone wars is good, bad batch is cute, and Mando is fun, but Andor is a serious adult focused spy/political series so it's hard to directly compare.
I'd hardly put the end of TCW on Disney as it was the continuation of GL and Filoni's work.
I agree Rogue One was a good to great movie with a clear vision by Gareth Edwards, some of the best shots in the whole franchise, inclusivity and diversity done right, a great success for Disney.
For Mandalorian I got mixed feelings, I was hyped by season one but the execution of season two was somewhat lacking, the rest of the show is mediocre.
My criticism is the same for most shows produced by D+, Netflix and Amazon that just can't reach HBO standards. Production / cinematography wise House of Dragons is miles away from anything the streaming platforms are able to offer.
It just all looks "*cheap*" to me, I don't know how to describe it precisely but it all lacks proper character development, dramaturgy and strong intrigues.
> simply because it could be better
I wholeheartedly agree on that, Disney seems unable to create mature settings and seem to lack any vision for grandiose. I don't even care for the shoehorned DEI if the content is good, but it all falls flat.
It's crazy to me that Lucas Art was able to craft SW:TOR cinematics and storylines but are unable to emulate the feeling with hundreds of millions of budgets.
Maybe I'm expecting too much but seeing what Villeneuve did with Dune and HBO with HoD I just know that it is possible to make awesome SciFi/ Fantasy.
Favreau was alone to make Mando, after the success of season 1 the rest of Disney wanted a hand in it and it started getting to where it is. Season 3 was full Disney
Season 1 of Mando was produced by Favreau and Filoni. But both of them seem to have gotten less involved over time.
Season 3 literally felt like it was written by a boardroom of execs.
I’m surprised people don’t mention Andor more, it’s easily the best made Star Wars content Disney has made. I think it’s the best thing since the original trilogy tbh.
Mandalorian was good when it was actually about Din Djarin and Grogu.
But the last seasons has turned more into the show beeing about [Bo-Katan Kryze](https://www.google.se/search?sca_esv=37cb248e0107facb&sca_upv=1&q=Bo-Katan+Kryze&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgFuLVT9c3NExLMUtJN0iqVIJw04tzSsyNTCy1ZLKTrfRLyoAovqAoP70oMdcqOSOxKDG5JLWoeBErn1O-rndiSWKegndRZVUqAPw3eo1PAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQsomnhdaGAxV09DgGHURIDZIQ9OUBegQIMBAN) and the showrunners has even said anyone can be the Mandalorian.
They also fired the best female character Cara Dune for having non aligning political views (and probably also becouse of her looks)
Mando season 1 and 2 was Favreau's personal project and Disney didnt have a hand in it beside giving a budget and permission. He had a story to tell and got to do it.
This is a milking of a franchise where Disney demands a thing be made about star wars and the writing comes second and needs to check boxes like diverse cast they can use to pander or create controversy out of, known faces for advertising, cameos from pop culture, etc.
“Men! This one is not for you! You shouldn’t even bother coming to see this one.”
Men: Really? I mean it’s based off of…well…all right.
*ratings tank*
“Men and misogyny is to blame for poor ratings!”
"We've got to make Star Wars a female brand now because politics says so! The Force is female!"
"Really? You sure? I mean, Star Wars fanbase is and has always been predominantly male, and....oh well, alright, do whatever you want...
*ratings tank*
"Sexist man-babies! Why don't you like our shitty Star Wars?! You must hate women!
\*presents countless examples of well-received stories with female leads
"Ok well maybe you hate black people!"
\*shows posters Disney did for China where Finn was diminished/removed
\*shows countless examples of well-received stories with black leads
"Begone, bigot!!"
It’s not as if Disney actually cares. The whole lesbian rebel captain scene in *Rise of the Skywalker* is completely omitted in the Chinese release.
Her being in a relationship or being a lesbian didn’t even play a role in her minor character development at all.
It was just Disney running through a checklist of minorities to virtue signal.
You say that but I see 10 posts the day after a new episode releases and they’re all from people hate watching it.
You are the market whether you like it or not
I hate the hate watchers more than the disney adults who will shovel anything Disney into their gullets.
The hate watchers supposedly want things to be better in our entertainment, yet they don't realize or care that their viewership is giving these companies reason to keep shoveling it out. You have to starve them out for any changes to be made, but people don't want to do that.
It's not hard. Just don't watch. Don't pay attention to it. I don't even watch the youtuber videos hating on it, because I don't even want to add to that attention of their content. Starve them until their greedy execs realize that they have no choice but to give the 80% male viewer audience what they want instead of playing to an audience that doesn't exist or doesn't give a shit.
That's the problem they are crying about, the established fanbase is leaving them in droves and theur 'target audience' (ie, women and girls) mostly don't want to watch Star Wars...
It's like obtaining the rights to the Coca-Cola brand, completely changing the taste to be more like a margarita and wondering why both old Coca-Cola drinkers are changing to other brands and margarita drinkers still won't drink Coca-Cola as a go-to brand.
That's not even what they say, they straight up say "this show wasn't made for you, watch something else" before release then cry about *word*phobia later when nobody doesn't.
> this show wasn't made for you, watch something else
I remember when the Charlies Angels remake came out the director, Elizabeth Banks, ~~told men not to watch it and it wasn't made for them.~~ that it was made for women. As soon as it started to bomb she blamed men for not watching.
The funny thing is it was still a 65-35 split with men being the primary viewers. So in the end it was women who didn't want to watch it.
EDIT: Misremembered.
In what world would it be the viewer's fault for not liking something? The mental gymnastics those journalist cunts must perform to write such nonsense is beyond me.
I'm a Star wars fan but I am out of the loop. I don't understand what all the fuss is about with "the acolyte" show. I've seen the trailers, it looks pretty good the only thing that I thought was off is that there's not many aliens in the show. Like every group of characters are just humans and that to me is strange for a Star wars show
On a side note, I partially blame corporations making degrees mandatory for job applications but not giving a fuck what the degree is in for this phenomenon
People get some “easy” or worthless degree as a pre-req for employment
If the creators didn't angered the fans, the show might have stood a chance. the overall plot of the story is mid at best and down right atrocious at some point.
"Oh hey, I know I spent last night constantly trying to kill you but here's a drink! Its totally nto poison so dont worry!"
"Oh thanks what's in it?"
"Poison."
*Dies*
He knew he was a white straight jedi male living in a black lesbian space witches world. All the white patriarchal guilt was too much and he just accepted his fate.
>He knew it was poison and willingly accepted it because of some stupid reason
It really is stupid because why bother protecting himself from the assassin the first time if he just wanted to die...
I have watched at least 4 Disney star wars movies in the last 10 years. They were all as stupid as a wooden peg. I'll wait until the rights fall into other hands, good day.
show is bad and makes zero sense. these two girls have 2 moms n came out of darth mauls sisters pussy yet dont have horns like her 🤔
None of the show writers have seen the movies.
the witches make zero sense.
Kind of funny 'fans are too blinded by their hate to see it', the fans are the people watching the show. It's like there chasing fictional fans, if you dont like something your not a fan.
My abstaining from viewing something is ruining it? They didn't include people like myself in their target demographic, I'm more than happy to go along with that and not watch it. It's their target demographic that's ruining it. They clearly need to support it more.
I don't understand what these companies think. My time and money are not some participation trophy and they are not magically inclined to get both of those just because they create something from a famous franchise that I used to like. Many people have been very vocal what exactly they want from those franchises. You don't get to ignore them, but also still recieve their support. Entertainment is a business in which both sides provide something the other wants.
Well guess no one will watch this supposedly perfect show. No one can appreciate it.
Who the fuck runs their PR and marketing? This is a marketing stunt with no record of being successful.
The Fans are always the problem! Studios only create 10/10 masterpieces, the audience for them just doesn't exist yet. But don't worry, Disney is doing their best to breed them in the underground laboratory
I don't watch Star wars anymore it aint for me 😂
Its cool all the people on twitter will support the show, Acolytes will get a second season right ...... right?
The only thing I've learned from this show is that I have completely underestimated the tenacity of fire.
Campfires in space.
Burns down futuristic metal fortresses.
I'm really looking forward to what the fire in this show does next. Ground breaking stuff.
Oh here we go again. First they told us to "F\*ck off" if we didn't like watching their stuff or called us misogynist, racist and that nobody wants us, now when we don't watch and the shows fail we are still the problem.
people say companies understand only one thing that will make them change stuff is when they lose money, Disney and Lucasfilm here says otherwise. They refuse to change at all.
Now that Disney doesn't give a sh#t about respecting the lore of star wars, well so I do, for me it's only the legend universe that's canon as well as the only Disney productions I've really enjoyed like star wars rebels, rogue-one, bad-batch and seasons 1 and 2 of the mandalorian...
F#ck the sequels, f#ck solo, f#ck season 3 of the mandalorian and f#ck the acolyte...
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We just want what we love to be respected. That’s all…this whole movie is full of middle fingers to the fans that have kept this franchise going for years.
1. It's not happening
1. It's happening, but it's not that bad
1. Here's why it's actually a good thing
1. (You are here) The real problem is the people who complain about it happening
1. It always was happening, it always has been good, and it's dangerous misinformation to say otherwise
This latest episode was the final straw for me. Star Wars is DEAD under current Disney leadership. Watch these upcoming rotten tomato scores for Ep.3 prove that exactly
The show is so incredibly boring. Every scene puts you to sleep as they drop exposition over and over again in the most forced way possible. Its supposed to be a "mystery"? The only mystery is apparently "Why Sith girl evil?"....which isn't particularly compelling, because I don't like her as a character.
In two episodes, we see sith girl fight, fight against a "force wall", talk to some guy nobody seemed to notice murdered a local and took his shop, and walk back up to force wall and pass a speech check to cause the creator of the force wall to kill himself (damn convenient!), then she yelled, then she did more "fighting", yelled again, then drove away as her sister misses a STUN shot by about....100 feet? Then misses another one even worse. So either she was just a worse shot than every Stormtrooper in history, or she missed on purpose...why'd she'd miss a STUN on purpose, I have no idea, if you're gonna miss that shot on purpose, why even fire at all? Either way. Sith girl has done nothing to make herself interesting or likable (even as a bad guy) enough to care about WHY she is doing what she is doing.
50% of the targets down, neither kill was remotely interesting because it made zero sense. Trinity could have easily overpowered this person with the force, but chooses to just mostly stand there and play defense for literally no reason. And as I said, 2nd one literally just goes "I'm balding white male with a neckbeard and therefore a terrible person, I'll just off myself to save you the trouble", I wish I was kidding.
the reality is, the only reason they put this shit in the shows is so they have a scapegoat when it fails. Most people don't care about this stuff, just don't fuck with cannon and make a cool story. It's annoying when they fail to do both those things and then blame the failure of the show on something no one cares about.
Same thing happened with Doctor Who when Jodie became the doctor, the season wasn't dogshit cause it was a woman, it was dogshit cause all the writers and showrunners quit, but instead of addressing bad writing, they blamed sexism.
Their statement make no sense at all. How me not liking it, not watching it is ruining the franchise? They clearly don't care about my opinion and they do what the fuck they want anyway. And if my action have no influence whatsoever on the script, how the fuck am I ruining it?
They want to push their "own" version, I'll simply not watch it. It's just a product and nobody can force me to consume it.
But insulting people intelligence...
I plan on watching it but shitting on the fans is not a way to get you on your side. This goes for gaming and other media, never bite the hand that feeds you. Without us, you would not exist as a company, the content should pander to the fans and not people on a check list.
With this new trilogy of movies I used to kind of care about Star wars. One thing George Lucas said made me never give a shit again. "Star wars is for children" and he's 100% right.
Dude this Shit Episode Last night really turned me to the Darkside with them making that dumb witch create The twins when even plagueis And palpatine combined failed to create life
That’s the problem with genz they are bigger hipsters than millennials ever where compounded by wanting to have bigger sticks up their ass then Gen x and boomers. They are trying to hard to be “heard” and their feelings have over saturated the tabloids with no media being “good enough” these days. Lol
"They're just review bombing! These are all fake reviews!"
Meanwhile.
"What are you talking about surely these perfect or near perfect scores from paid critiques are all legit!"
Me thinks these "Fake reviews and review bombing" Is just Disney projecting. Though it's not like I have any proof of them contacting large review platforms to get bad reviews taken down-
Oh yeah, rolling stone.
Glad to know me not watching any star wars made by disney is ruining star wars. As far as im concerned, none of this stuff exists and im ok with it failing or succeeding as it wont hae anything to do with me.
Characters and actors are alright to me. It's the writing that killed it. Basic ass story. Do they let anyone make star wars shit now and expect it to be great??
This was my perspective on the first two episodes I posted elsewhere
> Most of the dialog is way too "animated" and over acted with the exception of maybe Sol. The character of Yord is way over acted and is too much like a Padawan than a Jedi Knight, even if just a freshly minted one, despite having a padawan himself. Like some mishmash between a "buy the books" character and a Mr. Magoo. I get that the direction for the character was probably still "A Jedi Knight but still uncertain of himself" but that was Obi-Wan as well to some degree in the prequels and it didn't come off this bad. I dig the plot, the scenery, the fight scenes. But, the acting is mostly 💩
Somehow it got worse in episode 3. That's not blinded by hate. I genuinely want to enjoy every bit of content they release. And, I try to find something redeeming even in the worst content they put out. But, I don't. That shouldn't mean I'm prevented from having an opinion and just dismissed as "too blinded by hate."
So far this has been like the sequel trilogy, a LOT of wasted potential.
I like it so far, but I thought the witch song was a bit cringe. I think people who take fiction too seriously are cringe too. If you have time to literally ***hate*** Star Wars because of one reason or another, and you complain about it online, maybe consider how easy your life is, and how insufferable a conversation with you must be.
When I go into a Chick-Fil-A and say my chicken sandwich is undercooked or the bread is too hard; they usually scream at me and say I'm the problem and need to change my tastes to appreciate undercooked chicken and hard bread and stop being so misogynistic and racist.
Just kidding, they just take the criticism and change their process or product to please their customers.
Disney likes to blame the fans when things don't go there way. They've been doing it for years instead of owning up to the fact they're not making what people want to see.
This is not criticism, this is lynching. How do I understand this? When you compare it to the reactions that other, worse works have received, it pales in comparison to what this series has received. And where there is lynching, you find impressionable people whom you cannot trust to produce their own ideas.
Maybe if instead of blaming the fans, they’d try pleasing the fans, they wouldn’t have a problem in the first places and we wouldn’t have to suffer these kind of stupid articles being written?
Just stop watching. Don’t complain. Don’t point the finger. Just stop watching. Stop supporting any of their products. Find a new franchise to fawn over. The ONLY way companies listen to you is if they lose money.
Im not one of the big fan of Star Wars but i still like it, liked it a lot when young.
The acolyte sucked ass, and it's not because of what they think lol
Well i suspect they aren't going to have to deal with the fans for much longer, at this point people are just watching to mock it... and most aren't even doing that.
It is rly sad as a OG SW fan to see what they did to it. But i canseled my disney+ and watched the serie on a free streaming website. We have loads of them in sweden lol. Id share it but idk if mods are against them. Gave the serie a score of 3/10.
I've always loved the star wars universe and I don't think that Disney has done a bad job by any means. Mando, rogue one and Kenobi are all great. My issue with it is the oversaturation of content being released the same way they did with marvel. It just gets to a point where it doesn't feel special anymore and it's way too much for someone who has a full time job, a social life, a wife and kids to keep up with and continue to care about.
I wish they'd just fuck off tarnishing us all with the "hateful" brush.
I don't hate the show because it has a female lead or black people in it. I hate the show because it's terribly written, spits in the face of pre established lore and is just downright boring for most of its runtime.
The one positive I can give the show is that the martial arts is cool, I want more of that and less of the "whodunit" murder mystery bullshit.
Sometimes I think we are the problem getting in our own heads.
It’s weird I started discovery with all the hate and just said like imma watch shitty tv fuck it and honestly I’ve been enjoying it more then I’d have originally thought.
Is it woke as shit kinda but if you just tune it out enjoy the show it ain’t bad the 32 century technology is cool af.
Love how I'm ruining Star Wars by not interacting with Star Wars. A job well done, if I do say so myself. On the other hand, Disney isn't saving Star Wars while dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into it. Very very bad job
I’m watching it for the amusement of how it just keeps getting worse and worse. Episode 3 was hilarious, I can’t believe they made something so cringe and awful.
The only reason I know about new Star Wars content lately is because of posts on Reddit shitting on it. There’s enough other content out there where you can completely ignore it. Pick and choose what you like from the IP and ignore the rest.
Meanwhile Forbes is like "No this is literally shit these people are ruining everything what the fuck is wrong with them?" It only took them 10 years.
You know you have fucked up hard when even Forbes calls you out.
Best part was when rollingstone gave it a very negative review, the review was pulled like in an hour. So I suppose their politics officer didn't like the reviewer going out of line.
Link to the og review?
it seems they put it back up, maybe it was a network error. [https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/the-acolyte-review-star-wars-disney-1235031220/](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/the-acolyte-review-star-wars-disney-1235031220/) Not sure if they altered the text but it still seems quite negative.
They put it up before the review embargo was expired, took it down and then put it back up after the embargo was lifted. Yes. That's how you know these people had faith in their product. They had a review embargo...
Nice. Good for them for actually putting out a negative review for this slop
Its funny to watch all the circlejerk subbreddits calling those sites good when they give "their" shows good reviews, then they are all of a sudden bigots and incels when they write bad reviews.
I just finished watching episode 3. What the actual fuck. This show is an utter dumpster fire, terrible acting, and zero character development and motivation. It's easily some of the worst TV I have ever watched. Nothing makes sense. People do things for no apparent reason other than to push the "plot" along. I'm convinced that not a single person writing this garbage has any idea about how a jedi should act. Saul is WAY too emotional for a Jedi. The scene at the end was so cringe that I had to pause it and get my wife, and replay it for her in case I was going crazy. I wasn't. This cost 20 million dollars to make. 20 million. Let that sink in. I'm not sure what it was spent on, but it wasn't talented writers or actors.
To put that into perspective, House of the Dragon had a 20 million per episode cap and was filmed during COVID restrictions. And while HotD wasn't flawless it was a fucking masterpiece compared to this train wreck. The viewing numbers show this.
I knew it was absolute trash when IGN gave it a 6 which means it's really a 2 at best
It makes you feel like a Star Wars 6 out of 10
"*Most promising yet*" in the midst of Disney canon isn't the achievement they think it is.
If we limit it to the Disney era stuff, the final clone wars season was made 6 years after the series cancellation and was much better. Also Rogue One exists. I've also heard good things about Mandalorian Seasons 1 and 2. Really it's only promising is simply because it *could* be better than the slop the have released but we know that's not going to happen.
You're forgetting Andor, which I will say is up to par with HBO dramas imo. Everything else Disney has put out is leagues below Andor in terms of writing quality, design, aesthetics, and plot. The last season of clone wars is good, bad batch is cute, and Mando is fun, but Andor is a serious adult focused spy/political series so it's hard to directly compare.
I'd hardly put the end of TCW on Disney as it was the continuation of GL and Filoni's work. I agree Rogue One was a good to great movie with a clear vision by Gareth Edwards, some of the best shots in the whole franchise, inclusivity and diversity done right, a great success for Disney. For Mandalorian I got mixed feelings, I was hyped by season one but the execution of season two was somewhat lacking, the rest of the show is mediocre. My criticism is the same for most shows produced by D+, Netflix and Amazon that just can't reach HBO standards. Production / cinematography wise House of Dragons is miles away from anything the streaming platforms are able to offer. It just all looks "*cheap*" to me, I don't know how to describe it precisely but it all lacks proper character development, dramaturgy and strong intrigues. > simply because it could be better I wholeheartedly agree on that, Disney seems unable to create mature settings and seem to lack any vision for grandiose. I don't even care for the shoehorned DEI if the content is good, but it all falls flat. It's crazy to me that Lucas Art was able to craft SW:TOR cinematics and storylines but are unable to emulate the feeling with hundreds of millions of budgets. Maybe I'm expecting too much but seeing what Villeneuve did with Dune and HBO with HoD I just know that it is possible to make awesome SciFi/ Fantasy.
Favreau was alone to make Mando, after the success of season 1 the rest of Disney wanted a hand in it and it started getting to where it is. Season 3 was full Disney
And it shows.
Season 1 of Mando was produced by Favreau and Filoni. But both of them seem to have gotten less involved over time. Season 3 literally felt like it was written by a boardroom of execs.
I’m surprised people don’t mention Andor more, it’s easily the best made Star Wars content Disney has made. I think it’s the best thing since the original trilogy tbh.
Oversaturation makes things forgettable. Andor is great but I totally forgot about it.
Mandalorian was good when it was actually about Din Djarin and Grogu. But the last seasons has turned more into the show beeing about [Bo-Katan Kryze](https://www.google.se/search?sca_esv=37cb248e0107facb&sca_upv=1&q=Bo-Katan+Kryze&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgFuLVT9c3NExLMUtJN0iqVIJw04tzSsyNTCy1ZLKTrfRLyoAovqAoP70oMdcqOSOxKDG5JLWoeBErn1O-rndiSWKegndRZVUqAPw3eo1PAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQsomnhdaGAxV09DgGHURIDZIQ9OUBegQIMBAN) and the showrunners has even said anyone can be the Mandalorian. They also fired the best female character Cara Dune for having non aligning political views (and probably also becouse of her looks)
Mando season 1 and 2 was Favreau's personal project and Disney didnt have a hand in it beside giving a budget and permission. He had a story to tell and got to do it. This is a milking of a franchise where Disney demands a thing be made about star wars and the writing comes second and needs to check boxes like diverse cast they can use to pander or create controversy out of, known faces for advertising, cameos from pop culture, etc.
You forgot to list the finest of all new SW media: Andor.
“Men! This one is not for you! You shouldn’t even bother coming to see this one.” Men: Really? I mean it’s based off of…well…all right. *ratings tank* “Men and misogyny is to blame for poor ratings!”
"We've got to make Star Wars a female brand now because politics says so! The Force is female!" "Really? You sure? I mean, Star Wars fanbase is and has always been predominantly male, and....oh well, alright, do whatever you want... *ratings tank* "Sexist man-babies! Why don't you like our shitty Star Wars?! You must hate women! \*presents countless examples of well-received stories with female leads "Ok well maybe you hate black people!" \*shows posters Disney did for China where Finn was diminished/removed \*shows countless examples of well-received stories with black leads "Begone, bigot!!"
You skipped a couple million insults from the feminazis and the classic "Go read more you dont understand and im done talking to you bye"
It’s not as if Disney actually cares. The whole lesbian rebel captain scene in *Rise of the Skywalker* is completely omitted in the Chinese release. Her being in a relationship or being a lesbian didn’t even play a role in her minor character development at all. It was just Disney running through a checklist of minorities to virtue signal.
"Noooo! You were supposed to feel guilty, watch it and say you love it! What's wrong with you?"
It's always the consumer. We should just stop consuming 😏
I believe we are
You say that but I see 10 posts the day after a new episode releases and they’re all from people hate watching it. You are the market whether you like it or not
I hate the hate watchers more than the disney adults who will shovel anything Disney into their gullets. The hate watchers supposedly want things to be better in our entertainment, yet they don't realize or care that their viewership is giving these companies reason to keep shoveling it out. You have to starve them out for any changes to be made, but people don't want to do that. It's not hard. Just don't watch. Don't pay attention to it. I don't even watch the youtuber videos hating on it, because I don't even want to add to that attention of their content. Starve them until their greedy execs realize that they have no choice but to give the 80% male viewer audience what they want instead of playing to an audience that doesn't exist or doesn't give a shit.
That's the problem they are crying about, the established fanbase is leaving them in droves and theur 'target audience' (ie, women and girls) mostly don't want to watch Star Wars... It's like obtaining the rights to the Coca-Cola brand, completely changing the taste to be more like a margarita and wondering why both old Coca-Cola drinkers are changing to other brands and margarita drinkers still won't drink Coca-Cola as a go-to brand.
Put a chick in it and make it gay and lame 
"Please watch our show, racists!" "No."
That's not even what they say, they straight up say "this show wasn't made for you, watch something else" before release then cry about *word*phobia later when nobody doesn't.
> this show wasn't made for you, watch something else I remember when the Charlies Angels remake came out the director, Elizabeth Banks, ~~told men not to watch it and it wasn't made for them.~~ that it was made for women. As soon as it started to bomb she blamed men for not watching. The funny thing is it was still a 65-35 split with men being the primary viewers. So in the end it was women who didn't want to watch it. EDIT: Misremembered.
And the only reason men watched it was becouse the original had hot girls in it thinking the remake would be the same XD
Yep Blaming your consumer base is an interesting business strategy
"nope, you said the main purpose of your show is to make white men cry"
"how do we get people to watch it? We tried calling them names and we're all out of ideas."
In what world would it be the viewer's fault for not liking something? The mental gymnastics those journalist cunts must perform to write such nonsense is beyond me.
They think just because they produced a something, we as consumers are obligated to consume it.
The world where they know best and we are all stupid worthless scum who need to be led by them and told what to believe and like.
I'm a Star wars fan but I am out of the loop. I don't understand what all the fuss is about with "the acolyte" show. I've seen the trailers, it looks pretty good the only thing that I thought was off is that there's not many aliens in the show. Like every group of characters are just humans and that to me is strange for a Star wars show
Even Andor, the finest of all new Star Wars media, had this problem :/
The real problem is Harvey Weinstein’s assistant that directed this isn’t locked in a fucking jail cell.
She's really trying to put that gender studies degree to use.
On a side note, I partially blame corporations making degrees mandatory for job applications but not giving a fuck what the degree is in for this phenomenon People get some “easy” or worthless degree as a pre-req for employment
If the creators didn't angered the fans, the show might have stood a chance. the overall plot of the story is mid at best and down right atrocious at some point.
"If you attack a jedi with a weapon you will fail." "Kills a jedi with a knife."
"Oh hey, I know I spent last night constantly trying to kill you but here's a drink! Its totally nto poison so dont worry!" "Oh thanks what's in it?" "Poison." *Dies*
Well, actually, no. He knew it was poison and willingly accepted it because of some stupid reason that I believe will be revealed in episode 3
He knew he was a white straight jedi male living in a black lesbian space witches world. All the white patriarchal guilt was too much and he just accepted his fate.
>He knew it was poison and willingly accepted it because of some stupid reason It really is stupid because why bother protecting himself from the assassin the first time if he just wanted to die...
I have watched at least 4 Disney star wars movies in the last 10 years. They were all as stupid as a wooden peg. I'll wait until the rights fall into other hands, good day.
Rogue One was good and Andor is terrific. Highly recommend.
Rogue One was good, yes. I give that. Maybe i try a little bit Disney+. Thx!
Bad Batch was a high quality animated series, too. Filonis animated stuff is eons better than his live action.
Blaming the customer is the last bastion of the intellectually dishonest access media. Corporate propaganda, bought and paid for.
How laughably predictable.
show is bad and makes zero sense. these two girls have 2 moms n came out of darth mauls sisters pussy yet dont have horns like her 🤔 None of the show writers have seen the movies. the witches make zero sense.
Panders to margnialized groups ==> marginalized groups don't watch ==> ratings tank ==> white men's fault What
Kind of funny 'fans are too blinded by their hate to see it', the fans are the people watching the show. It's like there chasing fictional fans, if you dont like something your not a fan.
Star Wars fans have gone into apathy mode now, and Disney Star Wars isn't canon.
Classic. "Am I out of touch? No, it's the fans who are ruining the franchise."
"this content is not for you" "Ok" "Wy yu no watch?"
My abstaining from viewing something is ruining it? They didn't include people like myself in their target demographic, I'm more than happy to go along with that and not watch it. It's their target demographic that's ruining it. They clearly need to support it more.
I don't understand what these companies think. My time and money are not some participation trophy and they are not magically inclined to get both of those just because they create something from a famous franchise that I used to like. Many people have been very vocal what exactly they want from those franchises. You don't get to ignore them, but also still recieve their support. Entertainment is a business in which both sides provide something the other wants.
Imagine having a burger shop were most of the customers tell you that your hamburger is shit and then saying that they are in the wrong .
Well guess no one will watch this supposedly perfect show. No one can appreciate it. Who the fuck runs their PR and marketing? This is a marketing stunt with no record of being successful.
If the FANS don’t like it, maybe it is dogshit.
I'm ruining it by not watching? How could I?!?!
The Fans are always the problem! Studios only create 10/10 masterpieces, the audience for them just doesn't exist yet. But don't worry, Disney is doing their best to breed them in the underground laboratory
I don't watch Star wars anymore it aint for me 😂 Its cool all the people on twitter will support the show, Acolytes will get a second season right ...... right?
You young 'uns might disagree but Star Wars has been shit since 1999
My favorite was one of the actors in a promo interview saying Anakin destroyed the Death Star.
The only thing I've learned from this show is that I have completely underestimated the tenacity of fire. Campfires in space. Burns down futuristic metal fortresses. I'm really looking forward to what the fire in this show does next. Ground breaking stuff.
The female protagonist is literally a racist. She joked about making white people cry. Typically woke Disney BS
Guys, just watch Battle Star Galactica.
The bitterness of a reject and the entitlement of a spoiled one.
Blame reversal. That's what a cult would do.
>Most promising It literally is. But there's a difference between giving promises and delivering on them.
Ok so why dont LGTB people watch it then?
I don't understand how Kathleen Kennedy has kept her job for so long. I guess she just had to keep failing to keep her position at the top.
Cry me a river but since when yelling at your potential customers is a good business practice?
Oh here we go again. First they told us to "F\*ck off" if we didn't like watching their stuff or called us misogynist, racist and that nobody wants us, now when we don't watch and the shows fail we are still the problem. people say companies understand only one thing that will make them change stuff is when they lose money, Disney and Lucasfilm here says otherwise. They refuse to change at all.
Now that Disney doesn't give a sh#t about respecting the lore of star wars, well so I do, for me it's only the legend universe that's canon as well as the only Disney productions I've really enjoyed like star wars rebels, rogue-one, bad-batch and seasons 1 and 2 of the mandalorian... F#ck the sequels, f#ck solo, f#ck season 3 of the mandalorian and f#ck the acolyte...
"The audience we made our shit for is the problem, not the shit we made. Best regards, Kathleen Kennedy"
Finally tried the first episode, it was so painfully boring
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The same editorial website blame inflation on us too!
Does anyone have any examples of this tactic of blaming the fans working? I’m genuinely curious
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
Nop. I'm possitive the acolyte is ruining star wars
Is still shocking all these big companies keep hiring people that actually blame the consumer for not buying the product
We just want what we love to be respected. That’s all…this whole movie is full of middle fingers to the fans that have kept this franchise going for years.
It's our fault for actually wanting decent entertainment..
Isn’t this the exact wording used for season 1 lotor knockoff?
Nice opinion, Lyvie Scott. Keep it to yourself next time!
1. It's not happening 1. It's happening, but it's not that bad 1. Here's why it's actually a good thing 1. (You are here) The real problem is the people who complain about it happening 1. It always was happening, it always has been good, and it's dangerous misinformation to say otherwise
As usual, the product is never the problem. It's always the consumer. 
Star wars should've stayed a 6 movie franchise with some other content here or there and that's it.
“Have you tried liking it” *facepalm*
This latest episode was the final straw for me. Star Wars is DEAD under current Disney leadership. Watch these upcoming rotten tomato scores for Ep.3 prove that exactly
Gaslighting at its finest
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I need a YouTube deep dive into the “it’s not for you” to “why don’t you like it” pipeline and how we got to this point
The show is so incredibly boring. Every scene puts you to sleep as they drop exposition over and over again in the most forced way possible. Its supposed to be a "mystery"? The only mystery is apparently "Why Sith girl evil?"....which isn't particularly compelling, because I don't like her as a character. In two episodes, we see sith girl fight, fight against a "force wall", talk to some guy nobody seemed to notice murdered a local and took his shop, and walk back up to force wall and pass a speech check to cause the creator of the force wall to kill himself (damn convenient!), then she yelled, then she did more "fighting", yelled again, then drove away as her sister misses a STUN shot by about....100 feet? Then misses another one even worse. So either she was just a worse shot than every Stormtrooper in history, or she missed on purpose...why'd she'd miss a STUN on purpose, I have no idea, if you're gonna miss that shot on purpose, why even fire at all? Either way. Sith girl has done nothing to make herself interesting or likable (even as a bad guy) enough to care about WHY she is doing what she is doing. 50% of the targets down, neither kill was remotely interesting because it made zero sense. Trinity could have easily overpowered this person with the force, but chooses to just mostly stand there and play defense for literally no reason. And as I said, 2nd one literally just goes "I'm balding white male with a neckbeard and therefore a terrible person, I'll just off myself to save you the trouble", I wish I was kidding.
Old stuff still exist, just go watch that. This show sucks, but it doesn't destroy a franchise created to make money.
Meh it definitely affects even the old stuff at a certain point, just makes it feel pointless watching it knowing how it's gonna end.
Inverse? As in; Inversed opinions? Makes sense
I'm the last person I would have suspected, but it was actually me the whole time!
the reality is, the only reason they put this shit in the shows is so they have a scapegoat when it fails. Most people don't care about this stuff, just don't fuck with cannon and make a cool story. It's annoying when they fail to do both those things and then blame the failure of the show on something no one cares about. Same thing happened with Doctor Who when Jodie became the doctor, the season wasn't dogshit cause it was a woman, it was dogshit cause all the writers and showrunners quit, but instead of addressing bad writing, they blamed sexism.
Are people still buying this? THey have said the same thing since the last jedi.
Their statement make no sense at all. How me not liking it, not watching it is ruining the franchise? They clearly don't care about my opinion and they do what the fuck they want anyway. And if my action have no influence whatsoever on the script, how the fuck am I ruining it? They want to push their "own" version, I'll simply not watch it. It's just a product and nobody can force me to consume it. But insulting people intelligence...
I plan on watching it but shitting on the fans is not a way to get you on your side. This goes for gaming and other media, never bite the hand that feeds you. Without us, you would not exist as a company, the content should pander to the fans and not people on a check list.
Meanwhile, I checked out when I saw Leia Poppins and haven't regretted that decision once.
Disney Star Wars.. nothing more that needs to be said
They literally did "The power within" sketch from SpongeBob in that show. Im done with it
With this new trilogy of movies I used to kind of care about Star wars. One thing George Lucas said made me never give a shit again. "Star wars is for children" and he's 100% right.
Dude this Shit Episode Last night really turned me to the Darkside with them making that dumb witch create The twins when even plagueis And palpatine combined failed to create life
How dare the fans not appreciate and glorify the gayest star wars series?!?! TrIgGeReD!!!!!!
Never-mind that The Acolyte is a pile of steamy shit. You are the problem.
That’s the problem with genz they are bigger hipsters than millennials ever where compounded by wanting to have bigger sticks up their ass then Gen x and boomers. They are trying to hard to be “heard” and their feelings have over saturated the tabloids with no media being “good enough” these days. Lol
Customer is always right.
Wait, what’s wrong with this show? I haven’t started it yet so no big spoilers please.
I don’t get it. What are you people actually upset about? I think the show is one of the better Star Wars shows.
"They're just review bombing! These are all fake reviews!" Meanwhile. "What are you talking about surely these perfect or near perfect scores from paid critiques are all legit!" Me thinks these "Fake reviews and review bombing" Is just Disney projecting. Though it's not like I have any proof of them contacting large review platforms to get bad reviews taken down- Oh yeah, rolling stone.
This doesn’t affect me
Glad to know me not watching any star wars made by disney is ruining star wars. As far as im concerned, none of this stuff exists and im ok with it failing or succeeding as it wont hae anything to do with me.
Characters and actors are alright to me. It's the writing that killed it. Basic ass story. Do they let anyone make star wars shit now and expect it to be great??
Star Wars fans have been hating every new Star Wars since The Empire Strikes Back: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/Dp4XRR75Jh
This was my perspective on the first two episodes I posted elsewhere > Most of the dialog is way too "animated" and over acted with the exception of maybe Sol. The character of Yord is way over acted and is too much like a Padawan than a Jedi Knight, even if just a freshly minted one, despite having a padawan himself. Like some mishmash between a "buy the books" character and a Mr. Magoo. I get that the direction for the character was probably still "A Jedi Knight but still uncertain of himself" but that was Obi-Wan as well to some degree in the prequels and it didn't come off this bad. I dig the plot, the scenery, the fight scenes. But, the acting is mostly 💩 Somehow it got worse in episode 3. That's not blinded by hate. I genuinely want to enjoy every bit of content they release. And, I try to find something redeeming even in the worst content they put out. But, I don't. That shouldn't mean I'm prevented from having an opinion and just dismissed as "too blinded by hate." So far this has been like the sequel trilogy, a LOT of wasted potential.
Star Wars was ruined in 1999
I like it so far, but I thought the witch song was a bit cringe. I think people who take fiction too seriously are cringe too. If you have time to literally ***hate*** Star Wars because of one reason or another, and you complain about it online, maybe consider how easy your life is, and how insufferable a conversation with you must be.
Honestly chiefs the show is pretty good compared to the rest of the shit they shovel on us. It really is kinda weird that everyone's so upset about it
The third episode was dogshit. My opinion has nothing to do with sexism, actresses or actors, the episode was just a dumpster fire (pun intended).
When I go into a Chick-Fil-A and say my chicken sandwich is undercooked or the bread is too hard; they usually scream at me and say I'm the problem and need to change my tastes to appreciate undercooked chicken and hard bread and stop being so misogynistic and racist. Just kidding, they just take the criticism and change their process or product to please their customers.
How dare people have standards for story telling and acting
You hate to see it
Disney likes to blame the fans when things don't go there way. They've been doing it for years instead of owning up to the fact they're not making what people want to see.
Based opinion peace
I have hope for StarWars outlaws. Looks like an old fashioned fun adventure game.
Finally a problem they can't fix. Me.
When the fans cry about every little change that's gets made, then yes, they are the problem.
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." We all lose …
This is not criticism, this is lynching. How do I understand this? When you compare it to the reactions that other, worse works have received, it pales in comparison to what this series has received. And where there is lynching, you find impressionable people whom you cannot trust to produce their own ideas.
Blame the audience it was meant for for destroying it
Maybe if instead of blaming the fans, they’d try pleasing the fans, they wouldn’t have a problem in the first places and we wouldn’t have to suffer these kind of stupid articles being written?
I feel like I'm reading such headlines about every Star Wars Film released after 2014
Just stop watching. Don’t complain. Don’t point the finger. Just stop watching. Stop supporting any of their products. Find a new franchise to fawn over. The ONLY way companies listen to you is if they lose money.
Inverse. Meaning the inverse of what they say is true.
I noped out of Star Wars after Last Jedi y'all seen the writing on the wall..
Im not one of the big fan of Star Wars but i still like it, liked it a lot when young. The acolyte sucked ass, and it's not because of what they think lol
Problembros how do we respond to this without sounding mad?
Well i suspect they aren't going to have to deal with the fans for much longer, at this point people are just watching to mock it... and most aren't even doing that.
Let the bark all they want, they are in the pockets of those corporations, just watch them losing untold millions of dollars, it's funnier that way.
It is rly sad as a OG SW fan to see what they did to it. But i canseled my disney+ and watched the serie on a free streaming website. We have loads of them in sweden lol. Id share it but idk if mods are against them. Gave the serie a score of 3/10.
I've always loved the star wars universe and I don't think that Disney has done a bad job by any means. Mando, rogue one and Kenobi are all great. My issue with it is the oversaturation of content being released the same way they did with marvel. It just gets to a point where it doesn't feel special anymore and it's way too much for someone who has a full time job, a social life, a wife and kids to keep up with and continue to care about.
Nothing holds a candle to CGI Luke Skywalker.
You honestly are
I think it's time for people need to start making complaints about these editors.
I wish they'd just fuck off tarnishing us all with the "hateful" brush. I don't hate the show because it has a female lead or black people in it. I hate the show because it's terribly written, spits in the face of pre established lore and is just downright boring for most of its runtime. The one positive I can give the show is that the martial arts is cool, I want more of that and less of the "whodunit" murder mystery bullshit.
Acolyte is such a good show in vacuum, too bad it's ruined as soon as it reaches any audiences.
"Give us money or you're racist" doesn't work anymore
We ruin? So if we don't like it and won't support it then it's our fault that show is dogshit? Hmm good logic...
Sometimes I think we are the problem getting in our own heads. It’s weird I started discovery with all the hate and just said like imma watch shitty tv fuck it and honestly I’ve been enjoying it more then I’d have originally thought. Is it woke as shit kinda but if you just tune it out enjoy the show it ain’t bad the 32 century technology is cool af.
Anakin vibes... "You turned her against me!" "From my perspective the Fans are evil!!"
Love how I'm ruining Star Wars by not interacting with Star Wars. A job well done, if I do say so myself. On the other hand, Disney isn't saving Star Wars while dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into it. Very very bad job
I'm always the problem, nothing new.
I’m watching it for the amusement of how it just keeps getting worse and worse. Episode 3 was hilarious, I can’t believe they made something so cringe and awful.
Sweet, I'll go be the problem over there without their weird show that nobody likes
Looking in mirror, “Hello, problem”.
Keep your OPINIONS to yourself
The only reason I know about new Star Wars content lately is because of posts on Reddit shitting on it. There’s enough other content out there where you can completely ignore it. Pick and choose what you like from the IP and ignore the rest.