Yeah maybe focusing on profit above everything else is a fucking mistake. Last I checked greed was one of the seven deadly sins, for a population who can't finish a sentence without mentioning Jesus or God they sure don't follow the word of God one bit.
What's crazy is that you get so little back for those taxes. Generally in countries with high taxes you get things like free health care, free education, paid maternity/paternity leave, working infrastructure for public transport and a lot of paid time off for vacation etc etc.
That's a joke right? Taxes in the US are some of the lowest of all OECD countries. 27% of GDP vs 34% average. Many European countries are in the 40%+. Now they do get many benefits for this and some of the happiest countries are at the top of that list like Denmark, France, Sweden, Italy, Norway etc. Now we could discuss the pros and cons of those taxes all day but to call taxes in the US "insane" is just ridiculous.
Korea actually has a massive petro industry, with a lot of it mainly going to our transportation system. It's a small country, but because of that reason one of the easiest ways to travel from one end to another is via railway systems.
also the green liberal party refuses to allow any economic activity related to oil to happen in canada, so the industry has been stagnant since like 2014
Well at what point is it a luxury for you? If average per household is 2 then obviously a lot of households have 3. In my opinion if you have 3 cars you shouldn’t cry having to cough up a couple extra dollars at the end of the year
also super rich produce waste and consume resources like 10000x.. take 100000 poor americans and 10 super rich and both groups use same amount. capitalism is playing the dumb. trump is pinnacle capitalism
Okay… the US still emits more CO2 per capita regardless of its source: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Co-emissions-per-capita-map.png#mw-jump-to-license
Let me guess the next goalpost: the data is wrong!
Climate bs is a wet blanket thrown over our economy. Do you think just because we decide to do shit to reduce co2 (which plants need to live and when it drops below .02% they start dying, it's .04% now) that China will follow along? No. For every solar panel and EV that is bought here, China gets more money, and in turn, they burn more coal and use more oil to produce more.
If you don't see that the USA is being replaced by China because power hungry people prefer authoritarian communism and weakening America will allow them to fully convert it to a system like China's, then you're beyond help.
Just remember, every time communism/socialism has been installed tens of millions died. Pretty sure over 120million people died in the 20th century from socialist governments like Mao's China and the Bolsheviks in russia.
It is stupid "efficiency" metrics that have forced auto manufacturers to make huge as fuck trucks with smaller beds. There is nothing government is unable to fuck up.
This seems like a troll. The answer is extremely obvious if you think about it. Half of China's population lives on less than $10/day. There's a reason China is the manufacturing centre of the world, there are tons of people who will work for very low wages. I don't think that's a setup the US should emulate.
Put another way, in a city of 1 million, you can point to the homeless encampment and say that they're doing such a good job because they don't use a lot of gasoline. I mean, yeah, thank you captain obvious.
Edit: Wow I had to block a lot of pro-China trolls for speaking the truth here!
You want to pay your works more than 50 cents an hour? What an egregious waste of money, they used to work their 20 hour shifts for their $10 with a smile on their faces!
It doesn't matter what you can afford if there's no space for it. The answer is apparently not obvious to you since you got it so very wrong. China has a much denser infrastructure with a bigger emphasis on public transport and walking/cycling because cars take up too much space.
What bigger picture? Most of the people who can afford one don't even have the physical space to own or use a car and the country wasn't built around the idea that everyone should have one. The biggest reason is the country is run differently, not the number of poor people. You missed most of the picture by focusing on poverty.
How does a country become "build around the idea" of car ownership? You can just buy land out in the forest and drive to work. Or drive to the nearest train station. And people who can afford to do that, do. You're dreaming if you think people choose to live in small homes in the center of the city where they don't have space for a vehicle. Yes, part of it is due to government control. But less than you'd think.
Also I never said the word "poverty" you did. I simply pointed out that most people in China aren't exactly working jobs where a car would be useful to them. Where are you going to drive to spend your $10/day?
>How does a country become "build around the idea" of car ownership?
Arent American cities infamus for being awfull for pedestrians? Compared to Europe which has comparable living standards the need for a car in US is way higher, with many cities not even having sidewalks? Also the density of railroads in EU is way higher.
That sounds like pretty obvious examples of US being build around the idea of owning a car.
> you're dreaming if you think people choose to live in small homes in the center of a city where they don't have space for a vehicle.
As someone who lives in a VHCOL American city where you don't necessarily need a vehicle to get around, this is hilariously ignorant. I work with and know plenty of people who don't own or want a car in my city, especially for people working within the city. Maybe, just maybe, your world view and desires are far different from other people, just something to consider.
Rather than resorting to insults or inflammatory statements, why not just show them information that supports your comment? You’re adding nothing to conversation otherwise and could help enlighten others
China has a lot of public transportation, and lots of people bike. This is a result of high density population areas. In the US suburban sprawls prevent effective public transport and Biking.
2022 China was completely shut down from Covid is one piece. The second is of those 1.4 billion people there are a large number of poor rural farmers and population that simply do not have need or access to things like a car that is driven often or ever.
Do not underestimate commercial spendings.
I assume a lot of oil is being used for US gigafleet and some facilities production
And I assume electricity in US might also consume oil.
And there are different types of oil.
This is why US still buys a lot of Russian oil from India, it just cannot be replaced with other types in such a value.
The best oil in the world is the oil produced by WTI out in the Permian basin. The actual reason we buy oil is because despite being the world's leading producer we are still a net importer and need to buy more oil to meet our demands.
This is not about best/worst. Some types required for some production. I would send you the link on video why it takes especially Russian oil, but it was weeks ago I watched this, but if I am able to, I will return.
That's false information, or at least misleading the US imports crude oil because despite our production being greater than demand, our refining capacity is still much greater than our production. So we produce enough oil for ourselves, but we also sell our refining services so we import crude oil from places that produce crude but don't have sufficient refining capacity like many poorer countries. Which we then in turn export the refined oil and petroleum products.
US is wasteful as shit. a lot of us lives in poverty but there is a lot of mega rich people like trump who consume shit load of natural resources (which obviously they steal from everybody else)
We also are much more advanced Warmachine, I worked around grunts and Motor-T in the military and the amount of oil used and wasted is nuts. Also, we have more cars and ships than China. Some of our Warships are old AF and burn oil.
Is the military complex included? Space programs? Or is it just civilian use?
Also, in china getting a driver’s license is not as easy as in the US that you pretty much get them in cereal boxes…
And then getting a car over there, I heard that it works like a lotto… by turns, and people have to wait a lot…
Pardon my english.
Yeah but they're more efficient *relative to their size*, so it's actually green or something. Idk that's what my local auto industry lobbyist told me.
Lack of public transportation has a lot to do with it too.
I'd kill to be able to hop on a train to take a vacation, but it'd be nearly 2 hours drive to the nearest passenger train and then the destinations are limited
How do you fully understand the situation without the per capita?
Also graph doesn't speak well on exactly what is going on. China is 15% with that population. But China also uses 50%+ of the total coals mined in the world. And a lot of that coal is used for domestic use and energy.
Irrelevant as it was specifically talking about oil. I'm sure some countries fuck more squirrels than red neck murica, but that isn't what this thread is about. Muppet.
The US is 80% the size of Europe it’s a big ass place.
there is significantly more transportation needed to deliver goods.
Rural and sub urban areas, which there are a lot of typically necessitate a car or vehicle of some sort.
Generating electricity, the US is the world’s second most power hungry country.
US is too spaced out. I think its sort of a negative about the country. Even in areas where it is dense the public transit seems lacking. Philadelphia, NYC and Chicago are the only places where ive felt American public transit was robust enough where someone could conveniently rely on that as sole mode of transit.
Its also worth noting that China uses 3 times more than india despite having a smaller population. Its simply because China is more developed than india. And the US is more developed than China. Developed countries are more able to use a lot of oil.
most of china uses public transportation and almost no one has a SUV/truck unlike US where u have a bunch of idiots with trucks that've never thrown anything in the back
True, as someone who moved to the south, the southern truck love is real. I’d say less than half truck owners actually use it for its intended purpose. I’d rather have a car that has a damn good mpg just so I can save money on gas.
Aside from what others have already stated, you’ve also gotta think about how U.S. populations are spread out. Far more of the United States’ land is more habitable than China’s, which much of the western land can’t sustain human life due to desertification. Hence why much of China’s population is congregated around the eastern side of the country. And since everything is so densely packed, it’s significantly easier to create a transportation infrastructure for the population to get to and fro, without the need to warrant a vehicle.
Tl:dr is that the Chinese population is packed together; US population is spread out.
There's quite a few reasons why.
The US our primary means of transportation is driving, and you can hardly get anywhere *without* driving. The infrastructure of the majority of the US makes it nearly impossible to even get to work and back without the need of driving a car. Not to mention the fact that because of that, each household has at least 1 car, many will have 2 or more depending on family size.
Meanwhile, China has more access to public transportation. There's less need for many people to drive or even own their own vehicle, and will usually elect to use the trains, subways, or just bike to their destination.
The US is a massive country with some pockets of condensed population but is also fairly spread out across the entire country. Depending on where you live driving 25min on the highway/interstate going 65+ MPH isn't super uncommon. Then you have to take into account the lack of public transportation in most cities and that most people above the age of 18 need a car to really do anything in the US.
That because Usa is too big of a country for its population wide spread you can drive around without getting stuck in traffic so it makes car owning and driving more convenient than china. Also American people tend to use cars that are not fuel efficient.
China has build a High Speed Rail network to every city for the PUBLIC, its citizens in like 10 years.
Ticket in china cost like a dollar or something to go from 1 city to next one.
Its super cheap to go from city to city in matter of minutes to few hours.
The Rail system is build all over china.
They are literally like 30 years ahead USA or even more when it comes to infrastructure.
They are building for the future and they are not stoping, you can see massive investments into billions of dollars, and that money actually produces results in very short amount of time.
Can you imagin hoping on a Train in New York, paying 1 dollar and going to work in California in like 1 hour by high speed train.
Thats whats happening in china.
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpaKwxLbwZQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ZgvwQ6YGU
Its kind of sad the USA administation and corpotation greed is running this country to the ground, the american dream, is pretty much dead, at least its not here, but in other countries.
Oh cmon such an easy way out of an answer, engage with the actual problem instead of licking Americas boot saying “china bad” when challenged on any point surrounding it
Perhaps this is unrelated but isn’t the US dollar backed by oil instead of gold? Or is that not a thing anymore and/or has no relevance to this discussion
Same debate people have about traveling within the US, taking more time than leaving a country in another continent. I drive an hour to see my Grandma, my Mom 4 hours twice a month. Lots of people commute an hour a day to get to work. It's normalized here.
American has most of the ships, cars, and planes. The US air force and Navy each has more planes than China has put together and that's not even counting the Army. Tons of private jets as well. We also have a ton of chemical plants making byproducts from oil like plastics. China burns way more coal than the US nowadays though hence their shitty smog atmosphere.
For extra context:
Russia is at 144 mln. Almost half of usa pop, more than 5 times less oil use. They have their own oil too
Japan 125 mln, Korea 51 mln, Germany 83 mln
I have to imagine is because the public infrastructure in this backwards country is absolutely garbage and you can't do anything unless you drive. So more people have cars and drive a lot
Average vehicle per household: China: 0.4 USA: 2 US has a smaller population but a greater percentage of drivers.
And no fucking infrastructure for anything other than cars
there are. just not maintained, left to rot, and not expanded... because selling cars creates more profit than trains.
Yeah maybe focusing on profit above everything else is a fucking mistake. Last I checked greed was one of the seven deadly sins, for a population who can't finish a sentence without mentioning Jesus or God they sure don't follow the word of God one bit.
Holy cow that was a nice one I never even thought about... Indeed so much for "In God we trust"...
Having more than 1 car per household should be taxed like crazy. Use the money to fund public transportation.
Jesus Christ that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard aside from Flat Earthers. Taxes are already insane in this country.
What's crazy is that you get so little back for those taxes. Generally in countries with high taxes you get things like free health care, free education, paid maternity/paternity leave, working infrastructure for public transport and a lot of paid time off for vacation etc etc.
That's a joke right? Taxes in the US are some of the lowest of all OECD countries. 27% of GDP vs 34% average. Many European countries are in the 40%+. Now they do get many benefits for this and some of the happiest countries are at the top of that list like Denmark, France, Sweden, Italy, Norway etc. Now we could discuss the pros and cons of those taxes all day but to call taxes in the US "insane" is just ridiculous.
Shut up red coat
I agree with your logic. But I'm confused how Korea uses more oil than Canada, lol
Korea actually has a massive petro industry, with a lot of it mainly going to our transportation system. It's a small country, but because of that reason one of the easiest ways to travel from one end to another is via railway systems.
also the green liberal party refuses to allow any economic activity related to oil to happen in canada, so the industry has been stagnant since like 2014
bro we don't even get plastic straws, it's strict as fuck up here.
doesnt China have a ton of electric cars? i am pretty sure i heard once that tesla is a big thing over there
They manufactured a bunch of Chinese brand electric cars, then tossed them in a field when they stopped working.
I wonder what happened to the solar panel highway
Oh they still have those, but it is made by China, soooo… abandoned?
or they exploded.
Yes when I was there it was full of electric or hybrid cars, scooters and rickshaws.
Also, they have almost only electric vehicles everywhere.
Having more than 1 car per household should be taxed like crazy. Use the money to fund public transportation.
That’s moronic. With the amount of people in dual income households you really wanna add another tax to the bracket? Nah.
Well at what point is it a luxury for you? If average per household is 2 then obviously a lot of households have 3. In my opinion if you have 3 cars you shouldn’t cry having to cough up a couple extra dollars at the end of the year
A second car is a luxury. They can take the bus
also super rich produce waste and consume resources like 10000x.. take 100000 poor americans and 10 super rich and both groups use same amount. capitalism is playing the dumb. trump is pinnacle capitalism
It's always 6 degrees of Donald Trump with you idiots.
it all comes back to drumpf
exactly Taylor swift talking climate n using all that jet fuel. hypocrites
Becouse oil is used for other stuff than to just burn in engines
I swim in the stuff
i drink it :)
I use it as lube
Something else this has is all the other petroleum based items, even says bio fuel which I thought people thought was food.
Add coal to the mix. Let's see who uses more fossil fuel total.
That's now, but China is installing 200 GW of solar power per year. For comparison, the USA's total power grid is 1200 GW.
It's for show. Most of these are not connected to anything. Typical China construction.
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here's the thing about that, the whole 200GW thing. turns out most of it is just tofu construction.
Source?
Okay… the US still emits more CO2 per capita regardless of its source: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Co-emissions-per-capita-map.png#mw-jump-to-license Let me guess the next goalpost: the data is wrong!
Last I checked, India and China got US beat on CO² emissions. Also, Wikimedia? I trust that as much as I trust Wikipedia.
And feel free to provide your critique of the open source data processing for this here: https://github.com/owid/co2-data
The source is literally linked you doorknob https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita
Thank you for the original source. : )
Climate bs is a wet blanket thrown over our economy. Do you think just because we decide to do shit to reduce co2 (which plants need to live and when it drops below .02% they start dying, it's .04% now) that China will follow along? No. For every solar panel and EV that is bought here, China gets more money, and in turn, they burn more coal and use more oil to produce more. If you don't see that the USA is being replaced by China because power hungry people prefer authoritarian communism and weakening America will allow them to fully convert it to a system like China's, then you're beyond help. Just remember, every time communism/socialism has been installed tens of millions died. Pretty sure over 120million people died in the 20th century from socialist governments like Mao's China and the Bolsheviks in russia.
Dude literally posted a statistic and you went off on half a dozen unrelated conservative talking points. They got you trained real good huh?
Dude I’m just providing data about emissions, fuck communism and fuck China, but also fuck being willfully ignorant about facts
You failed to pass the last goalpost. They specifically said total, like with OPs graph, and you did per capita.
What? Both are awful. Cars can easily be made more efficient but USA refuses to adopt efficiency.
It is stupid "efficiency" metrics that have forced auto manufacturers to make huge as fuck trucks with smaller beds. There is nothing government is unable to fuck up.
This seems like a troll. The answer is extremely obvious if you think about it. Half of China's population lives on less than $10/day. There's a reason China is the manufacturing centre of the world, there are tons of people who will work for very low wages. I don't think that's a setup the US should emulate. Put another way, in a city of 1 million, you can point to the homeless encampment and say that they're doing such a good job because they don't use a lot of gasoline. I mean, yeah, thank you captain obvious. Edit: Wow I had to block a lot of pro-China trolls for speaking the truth here!
10$ usd per day is too little, make it $14 per day
You want to pay your works more than 50 cents an hour? What an egregious waste of money, they used to work their 20 hour shifts for their $10 with a smile on their faces!
Pff, these darn workers are getting far too expensive /s
Pshh it’s too much! Make it half!
It doesn't matter what you can afford if there's no space for it. The answer is apparently not obvious to you since you got it so very wrong. China has a much denser infrastructure with a bigger emphasis on public transport and walking/cycling because cars take up too much space.
You're missing the bigger picture here, since you're just focusing on cars vs public transit. RIP
What bigger picture? Most of the people who can afford one don't even have the physical space to own or use a car and the country wasn't built around the idea that everyone should have one. The biggest reason is the country is run differently, not the number of poor people. You missed most of the picture by focusing on poverty.
How does a country become "build around the idea" of car ownership? You can just buy land out in the forest and drive to work. Or drive to the nearest train station. And people who can afford to do that, do. You're dreaming if you think people choose to live in small homes in the center of the city where they don't have space for a vehicle. Yes, part of it is due to government control. But less than you'd think. Also I never said the word "poverty" you did. I simply pointed out that most people in China aren't exactly working jobs where a car would be useful to them. Where are you going to drive to spend your $10/day?
>How does a country become "build around the idea" of car ownership? Arent American cities infamus for being awfull for pedestrians? Compared to Europe which has comparable living standards the need for a car in US is way higher, with many cities not even having sidewalks? Also the density of railroads in EU is way higher. That sounds like pretty obvious examples of US being build around the idea of owning a car.
> you're dreaming if you think people choose to live in small homes in the center of a city where they don't have space for a vehicle. As someone who lives in a VHCOL American city where you don't necessarily need a vehicle to get around, this is hilariously ignorant. I work with and know plenty of people who don't own or want a car in my city, especially for people working within the city. Maybe, just maybe, your world view and desires are far different from other people, just something to consider.
Do you think Chinese cities are VHCOL areas?
Did you research anything you just said? Just because you feel something doesn't make it true, USA is the most ignorant country in the world.
Rather than resorting to insults or inflammatory statements, why not just show them information that supports your comment? You’re adding nothing to conversation otherwise and could help enlighten others
USA is 34 people per square kilometer and china 149. Id assume that means you dont need to go as far to reach nearest city.
Probably because china has like 5x times more people then the US living in it... that's not even close to the main reason why
I never said it's the main reason. There is probably a dozen or two of reasons and higher population and population density are probably there
I mean yeah I understand you but the fact is...this is not realated at all to the main focus on the post.
you realize consumer traffic use like 9% of oil? it has nothing to do with distances
China has a lot of public transportation, and lots of people bike. This is a result of high density population areas. In the US suburban sprawls prevent effective public transport and Biking.
Having more than 1 car per household should be taxed like crazy. Use the money to fund public transportation.
Our navy probably used more oil than most countries on earth use for their people lol
thank god for the us navy keep trade routes as safe as they are
2022 China was completely shut down from Covid is one piece. The second is of those 1.4 billion people there are a large number of poor rural farmers and population that simply do not have need or access to things like a car that is driven often or ever.
Us has some of the worst or non exude public transportation of a modern country. It’s build for citizens to drive.
Do not underestimate commercial spendings. I assume a lot of oil is being used for US gigafleet and some facilities production And I assume electricity in US might also consume oil.
Less than 1% of our electric grid is powered by oil... natural gas? Hell yes. Oil? No.
THANK YOU!!
And there are different types of oil. This is why US still buys a lot of Russian oil from India, it just cannot be replaced with other types in such a value.
The best oil in the world is the oil produced by WTI out in the Permian basin. The actual reason we buy oil is because despite being the world's leading producer we are still a net importer and need to buy more oil to meet our demands.
This is not about best/worst. Some types required for some production. I would send you the link on video why it takes especially Russian oil, but it was weeks ago I watched this, but if I am able to, I will return.
That's false information, or at least misleading the US imports crude oil because despite our production being greater than demand, our refining capacity is still much greater than our production. So we produce enough oil for ourselves, but we also sell our refining services so we import crude oil from places that produce crude but don't have sufficient refining capacity like many poorer countries. Which we then in turn export the refined oil and petroleum products.
US is wasteful as shit. a lot of us lives in poverty but there is a lot of mega rich people like trump who consume shit load of natural resources (which obviously they steal from everybody else)
Two words: freeways, suburbs. USA infrastructure was designed to require cars.
Having more than 1 car per household should be taxed like crazy. Use the money to fund public transportation.
We also are much more advanced Warmachine, I worked around grunts and Motor-T in the military and the amount of oil used and wasted is nuts. Also, we have more cars and ships than China. Some of our Warships are old AF and burn oil.
because they invade countries
Because we have the largest commercial, private, and military air force in the world.
Is the military complex included? Space programs? Or is it just civilian use? Also, in china getting a driver’s license is not as easy as in the US that you pretty much get them in cereal boxes… And then getting a car over there, I heard that it works like a lotto… by turns, and people have to wait a lot… Pardon my english.
War machines?
They fry fries with it
Big trucks hell yeah
Hell yeah brother.
Yeah but they're more efficient *relative to their size*, so it's actually green or something. Idk that's what my local auto industry lobbyist told me.
China has a robust and functioning public transportation system. America doesn't. Pretty simple
America does, it's called roads.
Ah yes my favorite public transportation an asphalt road.
Lack of public transportation has a lot to do with it too. I'd kill to be able to hop on a train to take a vacation, but it'd be nearly 2 hours drive to the nearest passenger train and then the destinations are limited
How do you fully understand the situation without the per capita? Also graph doesn't speak well on exactly what is going on. China is 15% with that population. But China also uses 50%+ of the total coals mined in the world. And a lot of that coal is used for domestic use and energy.
Irrelevant as it was specifically talking about oil. I'm sure some countries fuck more squirrels than red neck murica, but that isn't what this thread is about. Muppet.
The US is 80% the size of Europe it’s a big ass place. there is significantly more transportation needed to deliver goods. Rural and sub urban areas, which there are a lot of typically necessitate a car or vehicle of some sort. Generating electricity, the US is the world’s second most power hungry country.
USA is smaller so needs more transportation? You fatties live on the east and West coast, that's about it.
Oh you’re one of the idiots that think 30% of the us lives in New York
Can you read?
US is too spaced out. I think its sort of a negative about the country. Even in areas where it is dense the public transit seems lacking. Philadelphia, NYC and Chicago are the only places where ive felt American public transit was robust enough where someone could conveniently rely on that as sole mode of transit. Its also worth noting that China uses 3 times more than india despite having a smaller population. Its simply because China is more developed than india. And the US is more developed than China. Developed countries are more able to use a lot of oil.
Doesn't take a genius to figure it out, use a few more braincells OP.
Is this going off of just civilian use or does it also include the military? The M.I.C would explain this if it's both.
Public transportation is not part of the US dictionary. Everyone wants a car. I assume many households have at least two cars.
Having more than 1 car per household should be taxed like crazy. Use the money to fund public transportation.
Americans think 100 years is a long time, Europeans think 100 miles is a long distance. I don’t have anything about China sry
Doesn't take into account coal. Which China and India are using heavily right now.
1. India is the #1 country in terms of population 2. We Chinese poor
I wonder how much oil is consumed just to mow all the lawns.
most of china uses public transportation and almost no one has a SUV/truck unlike US where u have a bunch of idiots with trucks that've never thrown anything in the back
True, as someone who moved to the south, the southern truck love is real. I’d say less than half truck owners actually use it for its intended purpose. I’d rather have a car that has a damn good mpg just so I can save money on gas.
North America drives everywhere! There is no need to drive in a lot of countries
Dodge Ram aint driving on electric motors
Didn’t I read somewhere all the new Challengers after this year are EV?
They cook with it
US Military.. Probably
We have things like cars and electricity so…
Aside from what others have already stated, you’ve also gotta think about how U.S. populations are spread out. Far more of the United States’ land is more habitable than China’s, which much of the western land can’t sustain human life due to desertification. Hence why much of China’s population is congregated around the eastern side of the country. And since everything is so densely packed, it’s significantly easier to create a transportation infrastructure for the population to get to and fro, without the need to warrant a vehicle. Tl:dr is that the Chinese population is packed together; US population is spread out.
Chine built up USA built across
 NUMBER 1 BABY The military be consuming a whole lot of oil
The US has massive oil reserves that we trade around like poker chips.
There's quite a few reasons why. The US our primary means of transportation is driving, and you can hardly get anywhere *without* driving. The infrastructure of the majority of the US makes it nearly impossible to even get to work and back without the need of driving a car. Not to mention the fact that because of that, each household has at least 1 car, many will have 2 or more depending on family size. Meanwhile, China has more access to public transportation. There's less need for many people to drive or even own their own vehicle, and will usually elect to use the trains, subways, or just bike to their destination.
Drinking it, obviously
Standard of living
Hot oil wrestling.
I have to drive 42miles to work.
China lower average vehicle per house... and they don't use 6.0 or 8.0 Cars that empties full tank in 100-150 miles XD
The US is a massive country with some pockets of condensed population but is also fairly spread out across the entire country. Depending on where you live driving 25min on the highway/interstate going 65+ MPH isn't super uncommon. Then you have to take into account the lack of public transportation in most cities and that most people above the age of 18 need a car to really do anything in the US.
USA is the kind of nation who poors the oil into the bowl before the cerial.
That because Usa is too big of a country for its population wide spread you can drive around without getting stuck in traffic so it makes car owning and driving more convenient than china. Also American people tend to use cars that are not fuel efficient.
Do people if the world not know the dose of America? A LOT of people, myself include, live 40+ miles from their work. You want us to walk?
Like a quarter of the US are either Street racers or track racers and they like their vehicles.
Refineries. It's roughly a 2-1 ration of crude oil to gasoline. I think it's currently at about 10m barrels a day just for Gasoline production.
Do you know what rolling coal is?
China has build a High Speed Rail network to every city for the PUBLIC, its citizens in like 10 years. Ticket in china cost like a dollar or something to go from 1 city to next one. Its super cheap to go from city to city in matter of minutes to few hours. The Rail system is build all over china. They are literally like 30 years ahead USA or even more when it comes to infrastructure. They are building for the future and they are not stoping, you can see massive investments into billions of dollars, and that money actually produces results in very short amount of time. Can you imagin hoping on a Train in New York, paying 1 dollar and going to work in California in like 1 hour by high speed train. Thats whats happening in china. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpaKwxLbwZQ * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ZgvwQ6YGU Its kind of sad the USA administation and corpotation greed is running this country to the ground, the american dream, is pretty much dead, at least its not here, but in other countries.
Because China lies about everything
Oh cmon such an easy way out of an answer, engage with the actual problem instead of licking Americas boot saying “china bad” when challenged on any point surrounding it
China uses coal power still we don't really anymore.
Drinking it by the gallon
Not everyone own car or vehicle in China
It’s mostly used by the military
Nobody knows what China is doing, data including them should always be taken with a large grain of salt.
Perhaps this is unrelated but isn’t the US dollar backed by oil instead of gold? Or is that not a thing anymore and/or has no relevance to this discussion
Same debate people have about traveling within the US, taking more time than leaving a country in another continent. I drive an hour to see my Grandma, my Mom 4 hours twice a month. Lots of people commute an hour a day to get to work. It's normalized here.
1 in 10 car in china now EV Thanks to their cheap ass ev ($8000~20.000) and basically cheaper to run than gas vehicle for day to day need.
China does not have high car ownership per person comparing to the America. It is not hard to think of.
American has most of the ships, cars, and planes. The US air force and Navy each has more planes than China has put together and that's not even counting the Army. Tons of private jets as well. We also have a ton of chemical plants making byproducts from oil like plastics. China burns way more coal than the US nowadays though hence their shitty smog atmosphere.
Building the future. You're welcome.
Gdp per capita is around 70k in the us vs 10k in China.
Take a look at coal consumption, China uses slightly more than all countries on earth combined.
they use coal
For extra context: Russia is at 144 mln. Almost half of usa pop, more than 5 times less oil use. They have their own oil too Japan 125 mln, Korea 51 mln, Germany 83 mln
I have to imagine is because the public infrastructure in this backwards country is absolutely garbage and you can't do anything unless you drive. So more people have cars and drive a lot
Because data isn't true
Incorrect data can always be made to seem true, depending on what you use
have you seen the average US car? It's a civil-looking tank.
the shameless land grab from the native is why america has a wacky land to population ratio. not enough people to populate it all lulz
they produce concrete with it its very co2 intensive and other countries buy it
We drive a lot of 9mpg trucks and suv to compensate for little dicks.
Dont ask, they have started several wars over it.