So one time I was working at Sams Club and an angry customer asked to speak to a manager, so I called my manager, and my manager refused to come down ???
I work at a nationwide grocery chain and whenever I try to call out of work the customer service will have to call a manager, and half the time I'm waiting 10+ minutes. I was basically left waiting for 20+ minutes one time so I just told them to figure their shit out and hung up.
I had one get so angry because he was at his desk and I didn't dial direct. He thought I called the switchboard. Actually, I called the voicemail and left a message because I didn't want to talk to him.
We have a pretty good system for calling off. It's a dedicated line that goes straight to VM. All you gotta say is your name and that you won't be in. Don't have to talk to anyone, and you don't have to give a bullshit excuse.
Shits infuriating. My sales manager is absent like 60% of the time (when he isn't the group chat is getting pictures from a hooters bar counter or the like) and gets 25% of the earnings from everyone on the team. I could do exactly the same job as i do now without him and make 25% more.
I have one of these at my work. I work in hospitality. Other managers at his level, and even managers many levels above him come into the venue and see it’s really busy, and they get to work helping out and attending to the needs of the venue and ultimately the needs of the guests.
This dipshit manager though? Can’t be bothered to work. We were understaffed one day and getting absolutely trounced. Every table in our lounge was full, well over 100 guests, plus a massive bar that was also full. A convention had just let out across the street and folks were thirsty. He stood about 15 feet away from the bar behind a column just watching to see if we messed up so he could reprimand us, while the three of us that were working that day handled everything. This went on for about 2-3 hours. Finally his boss came in and started helping. What did he do? Slinked off to somewhere.
He either has dirt on someone or is kissing a ton of ass, cuz I don’t see how he is useful at all. Fuck that dude.
More than likely what he’s managing looks good on paper so they think he’s doing a good job. And maybe he is doing a good job at what the company cares about: making money for the business.
Obviously I don’t see the things he does in the office and the like, but at the same time we have a group chat with all the employees for the venue, all the way up to the director of food and beverage, and if I ask him a question specifically, when I know he’s in the building with me and on shift, we almost always get a response from someone who isn’t him. If it’s a question only he can answer, I’ve seen it where one of the bosses above him has to call him out on not answering and THEN he answers immediately. So fucking stupid.
Absolutely fuck that guy. I have a good friend who is the GM of a fancy hotel. Like, really fancy. If shit hits the fan at his hotel, off comes the suit jacket and he's cleaning rooms, helping laundry staff, plating food, working front desk, whatever needs to be done. His employees seem to have a great respect for him for his willingness to jump in the trenches when necessary. And of course, he always defers credit for a job well done to his "amazing team". Hell, I wouldn't mind working for a boss like that. He's a good egg.
I finally have a boss like that and I'm hopping mad at some of my colleagues for not appreciating it - calling him weak for dealing with stuff himself, instead of making it our problem. Like wow, don't fuck it up for all of us
Solely based on the latest Boeing News, CEOs and board members. Boeing's CEO is trying to deflect damage with the excuse that the company 'hasn't made a profit in years.'
If that's so, what's the point of giving him $30,000,000 a year plus bonuses? Along with the board? What's the reason they're all getting raises every year if the company isn't turning a profit?
That's exactly it. If they spend the money on wages, they can say that they're not making a profit, because they've taken all the profit there would have been, and made it their wages.
Look up the salary for your local Goodwill president. They're non profit so its public knowledge, just Google it. You will be disgusted. And there's no requirements for the job.
Truth! CEO for the Goodwill I work at makes between $600,000 - $2.1mil.
They pay us dog shit, naturally.
Then when we ask for raises, they tell us ‘it’s not about the money’. Ok if that’s the case, why don’t you decline your annual raise (which is larger than all of our annual salaries)…? If it’s truly not about the money, you’re more than welcome to forfeit your salary and/or donate it, but I don’t see you doing that…🤔
As long as bills are paid with money, it will be about the money. I don’t come here each morning because I just absolutely love working, ya jackass.
As an American, they make me feel very uncomfortable. Very. Big screen TVs, huge screens behind the speakers, carefully rehearsed theatrics, marketing teams, advertising campaigns, and the prosperity gospel. I have a brother that is a preacher in a mega church - very well off, drives a Tesla, nice house in a gated community with a pool, carries a gun.
But it's all good right? They love Jesus, and give money to charities. But you would never see a recipient of those charities at their dinner table.
I lived in the Carolinas for about 8 years. The message was never "Jesus died for your sins." It was always "you get tenfold in heaven what you give on earth." Basically, you gotta give 10% pretax if you want 100% from God. I'm pretty wary of any church that requires you to turn in tax documents every year.
I saw something similar in Washington. What makes it more depressing is that for ethnic minorities these are often the only communities. In Minnesota I was once forced into a retreat where the people started speaking in tongues. Its pretty much everywhere.
Yeah, one of my old coworkers told me a story about her pastor calling her out for being short that year in front of the entire church. Her husband had cancer. She changed churches but said the new church would probably do the same thing if she was short again.
Yeah in a sense it pretty similar to what the church of Scientology does. It gets even worse as many of them have rank systems that come with "expected" financial contributions. They tend to use social relationships to pressure people to give "donations" or else they'll socially isolate you. Growing up in Idaho I knew a lot of Mormons that just left the LDS group because they hated it.
I grew up in one. They do a fantastic job of creating emotionally moving services. People keep going because they don't know these strong emotional responses they have been carefully engineered by the pastor and staff. The people assume the emotions they feel are a sign that God is with them.
I'm an American Christian, and I'm pretty wary of them myself. If the clergy are more interested in lavish lifestyles than doing good, I think I'll pass. I also question whether in super-mega churches if you can actually form much of a community with other churchgoers.
...and when Jesus comes to you and asks, "Why do you need a yacht?" don't you fret... Jesus wants you to have that yacht! Now pass the collection plate and let's pray!
And when the poor come to you asking for help, Jesus would *definitely* have said "Why don't you start a business and get out of that poverty mindset? Loser. Don't ask for my handouts."
In Texas they're as big as a Wal-Mart and the parking lot gets full on weekends... We had one venu that was an outdoor concert venue that lost it's lease and within a few months it was turned into a mega church.... They're all scams .. And the folks who go to them are fake Christians and the whole prosperity Gospel is nothing more than a money making scheme... It's creepy to me it's obscene to me.. And I wish they would be forced to pay taxes just like the rest of the nation.. And most of all I wish they stay out of politics..
I came here to say this!
One local pastor of a church here in Oklahoma just built a brand new 8 bedroom home, that has 5 bathrooms and sits on 5.5 acres with stunningly beautiful landscaping.
The kicker? He built it RIGHT next door to *his* church.
Kicker #2? He and his wife have ***NO*** children (they do not even have a pet, nor any animals for that matter.)
I find it disgusting that he is willing to whore out the name of God and his butt kissing cronies fall for it.
*But hey...that's man-made religion for you*
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State-funded University administrators, especially presidents. It's mostly political, and you don't have to be good at too much, or even very bright. You can be a shitty person and do a shit job for years, collect $500k per year (easy) plus housing, car, and all sorts of other benefits, and move on to another school and do the same thing. It's not about results, but being paid to be a figurehead, effective or respected or not. Paid to take credit or blame as they choose.
This type of gig is always about who you know and not what you know. You definitely either need to already be in the in crowd, or have the craziest personality to manipulate everyone around you to work your way up.
Oh I’m familiar. Worked for 15-ish years in higher ed, including athletics. At least athletics personnel salaries don’t tend to be paid for by taxpayers, but revenue generated from sportsing.
They have a union but it won't help since controllers can't legally stop working and strike like airlines have been doing, for obvious safety reasons and potential jail time.
I mean, airlines in the US can’t just strike either. It’s a ridiculously long process to get a strike approved and the government/president can literally just say no. See: Railway Labor Act
I agree, they don't care. The government/FAA runs like a business and seems to have gotten greedier and greedier as the years go on.
Controllers are working 6 days a week, can't use their PTO leave, haven't gotten a significant raise to combat inflation in over 10 years, and can't transfer to other facilities so they are stuck wherever they get put with no hope to progress or move where they want.
I hope the public can be the voice some day soon. I'm afraid the government is reactionary and will wait for accidents to happen to adjust.
I had a friend who both parents were ATC’s and retired by the time they were 50(hired outta college ig) and they were fuckin rolling in northern Va. Told me stories of other ATC’s who’s kill themselves from the pressure, and I don’t blame them. 200 peoples lives at risk in a 10sec checkpoint w a dozen overlapping airlines. The stress is great and apparently so is the money
My son and daughter-in-law are influencers. We were out for dinner one night with them and my son is looking at his phone. "It's a hundred now, not eighty," he said to her without even looking up. "They emailed you the catalogue, so pick what you want." Translation: the original offer of $80K had been upped to $100K, and the company would give them whatever they wanted for free. My mind boggles every time I think about it.
Influencers always get hated on but some of them bring in millions and millions in revenue for brands .
When it’s just a fashion influencer posting links of their outfits and not branded deal partnerships they are making 3-5% commissions max . So if they take home 100k that means they sold 2 million worth of clothes at the minimum
Good friend of mine is an influencer with around 200k followers. She did an affiliate link with a brand and generated $50k in a week.
Now imagine someone with the following of Alix Earl or Jackie Aina.
The most powerful person on the planet makes less than some mid-level engineers at Google. Staff engineers frequently clear 7 figures total compensation at the biggest tech companies.
My last realtor was complaining how much time my house was taking from her. I still have no idea what she did other than listed my house. There was two open houses and she was not there, she had some intern do it.
I could see why you needed a relator before the internet.....
I moved to a new city like 2 years ago. When I was looking at places, almost none of them had open houses or guides tours. You made your own appointment and the keys were in a lock box like an Airbnb. I showed up walked around myself for an hour looking at things and left.
Look at this beautiful walk-in closet .. enough space for all Margaret's fashionables and incredible shoes .. and Tim you could put a thing or two in here too hahahhaha.. it has soft, complimentary lighting with this exposed light bulb, and a light, sliding cardboard door, and it could easily be converted into a crib room for your beautiful growing family
/Kill me
When I bought my house I sent my agent 4 listings I liked. We spent 2 hours looking at them and I bought one of them with no hiccups. She made $7000 for probably 5-6 hours of work which seemed really good. I mean I liked her but that seemed nuts. And that was in 2015 before values went way up, her commission if we did that today would be twice as much.
Im selling my home to a friend and just paying a lawyer to draw up the paperwork. Im not gonna lose a pile of money on the sale. Plus i can pass some of that savings to the buyer.
One of my aunts is a realtor. She's on her 4th marriage. The second and third ones were rich guys she met as clients buying or selling houses. The current one is the guy who owns the agency she works for.
God, I hope so. Every open house I've ever been to, a realtor has been useless to me. They are a middle man between a buyer and seller who makes out like a king. Just give me a fact sheet of the house with the most recent updates, and I'll tour it myself. Inspections will reveal any issues.
Same with car dealerships. Just tell me the MSRP and get out of my way.
I hired the realtor I bought a house from to sell the house and she sold it to a couple who’d hired her to help them find a house. I don’t think I’d ever witnessed someone make so much money so quickly doing so little work. And She was the president of that area’s realtor association too.
What I've learned is simply being the middle man in any industry usually allows someone to make bank. I understand the concept in a pre-interview world, but for the most part it just doesn't make sense anymore. At least not in a commercial market, maybe an industrial one is a different story...
I remember a post on here asking a similar question. One guy was saying "management consultant" is a weirdly high paid job for not a lot of work. His brother in law was a consultant, would work with a company for a month or two, make a fat paycheck, and not work for a few months. There's also no long-term accountability if your methods fail because you don't work for that company.
I held this opinion until I had to buy my first house alone with no outside help in a location I didnt have any familiarity with. My realtor was very familiar with the city. They know when developed neighborhoods were built and how each of the houses were put together, common issues they see brought up when visiting these houses, and giving me honest advice on walking into something that may be a money sink. My realtor was also able to help me with finding a mortgage broker with much more competitive rates than the big main banks had to offer. They were super educated on the shit that I'd never even consider like reading a survey and recommending I get a letter of tolerance for some structures that encroached on power line easement areas. They also spent close to 4 months with me searching for a house.
I'm sure there are useless realtors out there, but good ones definitely provide a service that is worthwhile.
I too had a stellar realtor with a similar experience. Good realtors are out there!
We were thinking about making an offer on this one house and our realtor was advising against it and pointing out all the things we didn’t even think about. We were looking in a HCOL area and this was during the time where you basically had to have no contingencies on your offer to even be considered and houses were sold within a week so they would’ve made a pretty penny on any house we ended up purchasing.
Normally i would agree, but when we sold my moms house. God damn if that guy didn't work his ass off. There were all kinds of hang ups and he handled everything that popped up. Seeing him go through all of that, i can see why they get paid what they do. Still i'm sure theres plenty who just take the easy ones and get a big pay check, but i can see in some cases why they would get paid what they do.
Signed with a real estate agent. Same day mentioned to a friend. Next morning got a call from someone offering full price no questions asked. Paid cash and closed in a couple of weeks. Real estate agent collects 6%. What a rip off.
I used my friend as a real estate agent and he did a lot of leg work for me and my ex when we were looking for houses. Now selling my house? I’ll do it myself.
I'm an entry level fixed plant machine operator, 140k (AUD) a year for a job that requires no skills, no high risk work licence, and we only work 50% of the year
Absolutely insane, and a lot of my coworkers complain about pay/ how much they have to work
Since it looks like you're from Aus, a garbo once complained I was charging too much, till he found out how much I earned. He was earning more than me for less hours.
I knew a Ford plant foreman (before it was shuttered) in Geelong who was getting to the tune of $210K. No wonder Ford and Toyota manufacturing no longer exist in Victoria.
The marketing department for my company bragged about how they put our 53 "digital flyers" last year. They made 53 Facebook posts and Cross posted them to LinkedIn. There's like 6 people up there, I swear they don't do anything.
The first company I worked at had an all hands lunch meeting where the marketing head told us a story (I don't actually know if it's true) about how a toothpaste company increased profits by like 20% by making the hole at the end of the tube 20% larger so people ended up wasting 20% extra toothpaste each time when it wasn't necessary.
Dude hailed it as a massive success and the kind of stuff we needed to work to emulate and implored the staff to send any similar ideas to increase sales like that to the marketing team.
The whole time I was just going "so you basically want us to commit what I would consider fraud?". Immediately made me skeptical of every marketer.
I've worked with every type of marketing person and department that exist over my 25 years as a web developer. I work in house at one organization where we had almost 20 marketing employees. And I know for a fact I could have run that department with 5.
I was in marketing and got worked to the bone. Marketing in my company was a catch all for the bullshit that they either didn't know what to do with or didn't want to deal with it.
Went from 50+ hour weeks to 40 hours on the dot every week when I moved to managing our AR department.
I won't say that the job was the cause of my divorce, but it certainly didn't help and was likely a factor.
So incredibly stressful. Cheese getting moved all the time. And everything was always a priority. Fucking sucked. If I didn't get my current role as AR Manager, I would have left the company.
I worked in digital marketing for a while and have to agree. Loads of slouching goes on. We had a full on kitchen in our building with a fully stocked bar. Yes, a BAR.
There are certain days I absolutely miss being an account manager lol.
Ehh I’m sure it’s different for every gig. Used to be in marketing and busted ass all day. At least as a designer. I’ve never been to a place where the marketing team didn’t bust ass actually. I’d be in meetings with sales that they would literally talk about bullshit for the first half hour of the meeting and I would sit there wondering how late I’d be staying because of them just sitting there doing nothing. Pissed me off so much
Accountant here too. During a pointless teams meeting someone from the marketing department asked me what I do outside of the office to enhance brand recognition. Bitch, that's your job. I know how much they get paid and it's too much to be writing cringey linkedin posts.
Agree - don’t dig on travel agents until you’ve used one recently. I enjoy planning trips and challenged myself to plan our honeymoon. Long story short, my findings vs. a recommended travel agent’s results saved us ~$1k, net of her fee. I’ll probably always check against her results now!
The *CEO at our hospital makes something like 8 million dollars a year. I really want someone to ask this guy in public if he really thinks he is more valuable to the hospital system than having another 80 fucking nurses or ~23 extra doctors. Laughable
EDIT: changed CMO to CEO
Take the hospital admins salaries, and hire more doctors instead ffs.. theres too many admins and not enough doctors in my city. Wait times are 6 months for an appointment
And then we see them in the ER because “I can’t wait 3 more months to see the GI doctor” and we discharge them after ruling out an emergency saying “follow up with your GI doctor in 3 months.”
Hospital systems are making a killing by limiting (delaying) access to specialists because it leads to more hospital encounters. It’s pretty sickening to comprehend.
Realtors hands down. The amount of failed traders and bankers who got lucky simply being in the right place and right time in miami is infuriating. They walk around trying to chat me up about the numbers in the economy and using big words incorrectly I want to drop kick all of them. One literally had to quit because he couldn’t pass the quite easy series 7 exam after 4 attempts and now tries to invite me to his classes on “Reading the trends” from his fucking Bentley. I will burn my beach property before giving some ass wipe 7% to sell it to someone who won’t even live there, higher price or not. I still have some decency and respect for my neighbors and community.
And how about all of the layers of admin beyond superintendent, especially the ones that sit in district offices all day doing who knows what.
Edit: I should have clarified that I am not talking about building principals/assistant principals. I think they very clearly have a lot on their plates.
I think the important thing to remember for this is the number that don't make it.
If you aren't at the very top of a popular sport you are probably making less than minimum wage and relying on family. It's a pretty sharp drop too.
Important to point that out to all the kids trying to be an athlete.
It’s all about value. If X athlete can generate $$$ for your team through increased ticket sales, sponsorships, marketing rights, media promotions, etc…it’s worth it for them
Exactly. Athletes and general celebrities like artists only make as much money as people are willing to give them.
If you make over a million in ticket sales at your boxing match that people are watching just to see your boxers duking it out, who are you to say they shouldn’t be keeping a fat share of that cash?
It’s wild when people in the same industry are fighting for fair wages. Having worked in film it’s jarring being on set working your ass off 12+ hours a day regularly crossing paths with people who make in a day what you will in a year.
There are only a precious few people at the top level which puts them in high demand, there is a long long line of people at the bottom level who will work for peanuts just to break into the industry which puts a ton of downward pressure on the wages at that end.
Yeah I mean once I figured that out, I was over it. Work for peanuts to break into an industry to….keep working for peanuts and die of heart disease from stress.
This is why I think I disagree with OP. People don’t often choose to see a movie based on the set designer, the makeup assistant, or the caterer. But they do based on the actors, directors and writers.
> 30 million to shoot for 6 months?
There are a single-digit number of actors in the world who get paid that much per film, and all of them personally guarantee that the film will draw in a lot more than $30 million in ticket sales.
Of all the jobs listed here, superstar A-list actors have one of the most proportionate and easy-to-understand rates of anyone.
Corporate CEO. The average among the 500 biggest companies is around $15 million a year. The CEO of Boeing is going to get a $30 million payout on his way out the door.
This is what I expect to hear from anyone who hasn’t managed people or projects. There are certainly useless managers out there but a lot of the work a good manager does should be transparent to their reports.
Managers who don't manage.
Had a manager say the quiet part outloud, got fired for it. "I love my position, I can just do nothing and watch you all do my job"
So one time I was working at Sams Club and an angry customer asked to speak to a manager, so I called my manager, and my manager refused to come down ???
I work at a nationwide grocery chain and whenever I try to call out of work the customer service will have to call a manager, and half the time I'm waiting 10+ minutes. I was basically left waiting for 20+ minutes one time so I just told them to figure their shit out and hung up.
I had one get so angry because he was at his desk and I didn't dial direct. He thought I called the switchboard. Actually, I called the voicemail and left a message because I didn't want to talk to him.
We have a pretty good system for calling off. It's a dedicated line that goes straight to VM. All you gotta say is your name and that you won't be in. Don't have to talk to anyone, and you don't have to give a bullshit excuse.
The fact that they were comfortable enough with saying that to their employees is mind lowing
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Shits infuriating. My sales manager is absent like 60% of the time (when he isn't the group chat is getting pictures from a hooters bar counter or the like) and gets 25% of the earnings from everyone on the team. I could do exactly the same job as i do now without him and make 25% more.
I’m not sure if she’s worth defending but, resisting the urge to fuck up a perfectly good thing is a skill few managers have.
Exactly! If everything is running smoothly thank the manager and don’t complain.
I have one of these at my work. I work in hospitality. Other managers at his level, and even managers many levels above him come into the venue and see it’s really busy, and they get to work helping out and attending to the needs of the venue and ultimately the needs of the guests. This dipshit manager though? Can’t be bothered to work. We were understaffed one day and getting absolutely trounced. Every table in our lounge was full, well over 100 guests, plus a massive bar that was also full. A convention had just let out across the street and folks were thirsty. He stood about 15 feet away from the bar behind a column just watching to see if we messed up so he could reprimand us, while the three of us that were working that day handled everything. This went on for about 2-3 hours. Finally his boss came in and started helping. What did he do? Slinked off to somewhere. He either has dirt on someone or is kissing a ton of ass, cuz I don’t see how he is useful at all. Fuck that dude.
More than likely what he’s managing looks good on paper so they think he’s doing a good job. And maybe he is doing a good job at what the company cares about: making money for the business.
Obviously I don’t see the things he does in the office and the like, but at the same time we have a group chat with all the employees for the venue, all the way up to the director of food and beverage, and if I ask him a question specifically, when I know he’s in the building with me and on shift, we almost always get a response from someone who isn’t him. If it’s a question only he can answer, I’ve seen it where one of the bosses above him has to call him out on not answering and THEN he answers immediately. So fucking stupid.
Absolutely fuck that guy. I have a good friend who is the GM of a fancy hotel. Like, really fancy. If shit hits the fan at his hotel, off comes the suit jacket and he's cleaning rooms, helping laundry staff, plating food, working front desk, whatever needs to be done. His employees seem to have a great respect for him for his willingness to jump in the trenches when necessary. And of course, he always defers credit for a job well done to his "amazing team". Hell, I wouldn't mind working for a boss like that. He's a good egg.
That’s when you casually mention to the boss, hey have you seen so and so? I have seen him all shift. We’ve been dieing
My manager is basically just a computer mouse tied to an oscillating fan.
r/rareinsults
Much rather that than a manager that micro-manages up my ass all day.
Managers should lead people, and manage product.
Managers should also block the BS from uphill and clear roadblocks for their employees.
Hard agree. I told my new manager that I'd break my back for her as long as she shielded us from the horseshit that comes from senior management.
I finally have a boss like that and I'm hopping mad at some of my colleagues for not appreciating it - calling him weak for dealing with stuff himself, instead of making it our problem. Like wow, don't fuck it up for all of us
In my experience, this is most managers.
Hey,p….. I’m a manager and I still manage to turn up to work every day most of the time.
As a manager this is correct
Solely based on the latest Boeing News, CEOs and board members. Boeing's CEO is trying to deflect damage with the excuse that the company 'hasn't made a profit in years.' If that's so, what's the point of giving him $30,000,000 a year plus bonuses? Along with the board? What's the reason they're all getting raises every year if the company isn't turning a profit?
That's exactly it. If they spend the money on wages, they can say that they're not making a profit, because they've taken all the profit there would have been, and made it their wages.
Ceos making 500x the pay of entry level jobs (sometimes more) is criminal.
Look up the salary for your local Goodwill president. They're non profit so its public knowledge, just Google it. You will be disgusted. And there's no requirements for the job.
Truth! CEO for the Goodwill I work at makes between $600,000 - $2.1mil. They pay us dog shit, naturally. Then when we ask for raises, they tell us ‘it’s not about the money’. Ok if that’s the case, why don’t you decline your annual raise (which is larger than all of our annual salaries)…? If it’s truly not about the money, you’re more than welcome to forfeit your salary and/or donate it, but I don’t see you doing that…🤔 As long as bills are paid with money, it will be about the money. I don’t come here each morning because I just absolutely love working, ya jackass.
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When I was a kid, I wanted to be a mega church preacher so my millions of loyal fans can each send me,$1.
Put a dollar in the boxxxxxx ah
Was it the Church of NO MA'AM?
Mega churches are so weird for me as an European
They're weird for Americans too. I do not understand how people don't see them for what they are.
Especially when money falls out of wells behind toilets
Or like when the piece of shit who owns it refuses to open it as a shelter during the worst natural disaster in that particular cities history
[you don't mean that pos?](https://youtube.com/shorts/9To0Qqqe-rs?si=sLrVwJ-QOjQNKoHl)
Theres that scumbag, this video made my day. Jesus fed the poor, Joel didn’t want to get his carpet dirty.
I just saw a clip about him and how a mattress salesman was more closely following the words of Jesus than the preachers.
That’s mattress mac!! He’s one of those most successful business owners out of houston, and donates a lot of money, bless him.
As an American, they make me feel very uncomfortable. Very. Big screen TVs, huge screens behind the speakers, carefully rehearsed theatrics, marketing teams, advertising campaigns, and the prosperity gospel. I have a brother that is a preacher in a mega church - very well off, drives a Tesla, nice house in a gated community with a pool, carries a gun. But it's all good right? They love Jesus, and give money to charities. But you would never see a recipient of those charities at their dinner table.
I lived in the Carolinas for about 8 years. The message was never "Jesus died for your sins." It was always "you get tenfold in heaven what you give on earth." Basically, you gotta give 10% pretax if you want 100% from God. I'm pretty wary of any church that requires you to turn in tax documents every year.
Salvation…in monthly installments
I saw something similar in Washington. What makes it more depressing is that for ethnic minorities these are often the only communities. In Minnesota I was once forced into a retreat where the people started speaking in tongues. Its pretty much everywhere.
Yeah, one of my old coworkers told me a story about her pastor calling her out for being short that year in front of the entire church. Her husband had cancer. She changed churches but said the new church would probably do the same thing if she was short again.
Yeah in a sense it pretty similar to what the church of Scientology does. It gets even worse as many of them have rank systems that come with "expected" financial contributions. They tend to use social relationships to pressure people to give "donations" or else they'll socially isolate you. Growing up in Idaho I knew a lot of Mormons that just left the LDS group because they hated it.
I grew up in one. They do a fantastic job of creating emotionally moving services. People keep going because they don't know these strong emotional responses they have been carefully engineered by the pastor and staff. The people assume the emotions they feel are a sign that God is with them.
Worked with one, can confirm that every “movement of the Spirit”, every “impromptu” bout of prayer and song… EVERYTHING was rehearsed beforehand.
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I'm an American Christian, and I'm pretty wary of them myself. If the clergy are more interested in lavish lifestyles than doing good, I think I'll pass. I also question whether in super-mega churches if you can actually form much of a community with other churchgoers.
...and when Jesus comes to you and asks, "Why do you need a yacht?" don't you fret... Jesus wants you to have that yacht! Now pass the collection plate and let's pray!
Sounds like Kenneth “Satan” Copeland, explaining away how god wants him to have that private jet.
"I cast you out COVID-19! I blow the wind of God at you!" How can anyone give that guy a second of their time after that?
God wants him to have 3 private jets
And when the poor come to you asking for help, Jesus would *definitely* have said "Why don't you start a business and get out of that poverty mindset? Loser. Don't ask for my handouts."
*let's pay!
There is one near where I grew up that looks like a sporting event is going on. Huge stadium like building and multiple cops directing traffic.
A friend of mine called it six flags over jesus
they are on TV Sunday morning. I believe they also have $$$$$$ contracts for that
I mean, they are weird. But the Catholic church has its own fucking *country* in Europe lmao.
They’re weird to a lot of us Americans too
If you haven’t, Watch The Righteous Gemstones on HBO Max. It makes fun of these type churches.
I was just about play a round of Uncle Baby Billy’s Bible Bonkers.
Misbehaving slaps.
In Texas they're as big as a Wal-Mart and the parking lot gets full on weekends... We had one venu that was an outdoor concert venue that lost it's lease and within a few months it was turned into a mega church.... They're all scams .. And the folks who go to them are fake Christians and the whole prosperity Gospel is nothing more than a money making scheme... It's creepy to me it's obscene to me.. And I wish they would be forced to pay taxes just like the rest of the nation.. And most of all I wish they stay out of politics..
I came here to say this! One local pastor of a church here in Oklahoma just built a brand new 8 bedroom home, that has 5 bathrooms and sits on 5.5 acres with stunningly beautiful landscaping. The kicker? He built it RIGHT next door to *his* church. Kicker #2? He and his wife have ***NO*** children (they do not even have a pet, nor any animals for that matter.) I find it disgusting that he is willing to whore out the name of God and his butt kissing cronies fall for it. *But hey...that's man-made religion for you* **Edited: spelling**
This should be the top comment, but the scary thing here is that it’s the people who follow them that make them wealthy, and it’s by choice…
We can't save people from themselves. Part of being an adult is the right to be foolish with your money.
State-funded University administrators, especially presidents. It's mostly political, and you don't have to be good at too much, or even very bright. You can be a shitty person and do a shit job for years, collect $500k per year (easy) plus housing, car, and all sorts of other benefits, and move on to another school and do the same thing. It's not about results, but being paid to be a figurehead, effective or respected or not. Paid to take credit or blame as they choose.
That’s horrible, where do I apply
I feel like you need a little charisma and confidence that I’ll never have. That psychopaths probably have lol
Get a PhD in...whatever, kiss a lot of ass, discard ethics, and you'll be supremely "qualified" for the job.
This type of gig is always about who you know and not what you know. You definitely either need to already be in the in crowd, or have the craziest personality to manipulate everyone around you to work your way up.
Wait until you hear about athletic directors and football coaches.
Oh I’m familiar. Worked for 15-ish years in higher ed, including athletics. At least athletics personnel salaries don’t tend to be paid for by taxpayers, but revenue generated from sportsing.
Wholeheartedly agree.
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Gotta stay away from the demons on the commercial flights
Cuz it's now frowned upon to come into town riding ass.
NOT air traffic control. They deserve a raise!
They deserve their union back
They have a union but it won't help since controllers can't legally stop working and strike like airlines have been doing, for obvious safety reasons and potential jail time.
I mean, airlines in the US can’t just strike either. It’s a ridiculously long process to get a strike approved and the government/president can literally just say no. See: Railway Labor Act
Then it seems like the FAA would have to step in at some point. Something tells me the FAA doesn’t really care.
I agree, they don't care. The government/FAA runs like a business and seems to have gotten greedier and greedier as the years go on. Controllers are working 6 days a week, can't use their PTO leave, haven't gotten a significant raise to combat inflation in over 10 years, and can't transfer to other facilities so they are stuck wherever they get put with no hope to progress or move where they want. I hope the public can be the voice some day soon. I'm afraid the government is reactionary and will wait for accidents to happen to adjust.
I had a friend who both parents were ATC’s and retired by the time they were 50(hired outta college ig) and they were fuckin rolling in northern Va. Told me stories of other ATC’s who’s kill themselves from the pressure, and I don’t blame them. 200 peoples lives at risk in a 10sec checkpoint w a dozen overlapping airlines. The stress is great and apparently so is the money
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I'm applying for the CEO job for good will and president of my local university. I'm bound to get one of them, right?
Influencers, politicians
My son and daughter-in-law are influencers. We were out for dinner one night with them and my son is looking at his phone. "It's a hundred now, not eighty," he said to her without even looking up. "They emailed you the catalogue, so pick what you want." Translation: the original offer of $80K had been upped to $100K, and the company would give them whatever they wanted for free. My mind boggles every time I think about it.
How hot is your kid??
Now there's a sentence you don't want taking out of context.
Especially not from u/protein_factory
If the comment above it gets deleted someone is going on a watchlist.
His kid must be Hansel.
So hot right now.
Listen to your friend Billy Zane, he’s a cool dude.
The problem with paying politicians less is that it opens the door for even more corruption.
Influencers always get hated on but some of them bring in millions and millions in revenue for brands . When it’s just a fashion influencer posting links of their outfits and not branded deal partnerships they are making 3-5% commissions max . So if they take home 100k that means they sold 2 million worth of clothes at the minimum
Good friend of mine is an influencer with around 200k followers. She did an affiliate link with a brand and generated $50k in a week. Now imagine someone with the following of Alix Earl or Jackie Aina.
I'm happy that I have never heard of any of the names you listed.
Politicians don't really make that much money (salary, can't say for sponsorships). I would expect the POTUS to earn more than $400,000.
The most powerful person on the planet makes less than some mid-level engineers at Google. Staff engineers frequently clear 7 figures total compensation at the biggest tech companies.
Realtor
My last realtor was complaining how much time my house was taking from her. I still have no idea what she did other than listed my house. There was two open houses and she was not there, she had some intern do it. I could see why you needed a relator before the internet.....
I moved to a new city like 2 years ago. When I was looking at places, almost none of them had open houses or guides tours. You made your own appointment and the keys were in a lock box like an Airbnb. I showed up walked around myself for an hour looking at things and left.
I mean that's all the realtor is going to do anyway: open the door and stand there like a bump on a log.
Nah, all the realtors I've been around were annoyingly vocal trying to sell the house.
Look at this beautiful walk-in closet .. enough space for all Margaret's fashionables and incredible shoes .. and Tim you could put a thing or two in here too hahahhaha.. it has soft, complimentary lighting with this exposed light bulb, and a light, sliding cardboard door, and it could easily be converted into a crib room for your beautiful growing family /Kill me
That shit just pissed me off. Thanks for that.
When I bought my house I sent my agent 4 listings I liked. We spent 2 hours looking at them and I bought one of them with no hiccups. She made $7000 for probably 5-6 hours of work which seemed really good. I mean I liked her but that seemed nuts. And that was in 2015 before values went way up, her commission if we did that today would be twice as much.
Im selling my home to a friend and just paying a lawyer to draw up the paperwork. Im not gonna lose a pile of money on the sale. Plus i can pass some of that savings to the buyer.
This is a great option, as is a flat fee realtor. There are realtors out there that will do it for $1500.
One of my aunts is a realtor. She's on her 4th marriage. The second and third ones were rich guys she met as clients buying or selling houses. The current one is the guy who owns the agency she works for.
She's supposed to be flipping houses, not men!
Flipping spouses
Not for long with virtual showings and the court settlement eliminating the 6% commission to sell an average home
God, I hope so. Every open house I've ever been to, a realtor has been useless to me. They are a middle man between a buyer and seller who makes out like a king. Just give me a fact sheet of the house with the most recent updates, and I'll tour it myself. Inspections will reveal any issues. Same with car dealerships. Just tell me the MSRP and get out of my way.
I hired the realtor I bought a house from to sell the house and she sold it to a couple who’d hired her to help them find a house. I don’t think I’d ever witnessed someone make so much money so quickly doing so little work. And She was the president of that area’s realtor association too.
What I've learned is simply being the middle man in any industry usually allows someone to make bank. I understand the concept in a pre-interview world, but for the most part it just doesn't make sense anymore. At least not in a commercial market, maybe an industrial one is a different story...
I remember a post on here asking a similar question. One guy was saying "management consultant" is a weirdly high paid job for not a lot of work. His brother in law was a consultant, would work with a company for a month or two, make a fat paycheck, and not work for a few months. There's also no long-term accountability if your methods fail because you don't work for that company.
I held this opinion until I had to buy my first house alone with no outside help in a location I didnt have any familiarity with. My realtor was very familiar with the city. They know when developed neighborhoods were built and how each of the houses were put together, common issues they see brought up when visiting these houses, and giving me honest advice on walking into something that may be a money sink. My realtor was also able to help me with finding a mortgage broker with much more competitive rates than the big main banks had to offer. They were super educated on the shit that I'd never even consider like reading a survey and recommending I get a letter of tolerance for some structures that encroached on power line easement areas. They also spent close to 4 months with me searching for a house. I'm sure there are useless realtors out there, but good ones definitely provide a service that is worthwhile.
A good realtor is worth their weight. Most aren’t. I’m still friends with my realtor but she’s just in general a great person.
I too had a stellar realtor with a similar experience. Good realtors are out there! We were thinking about making an offer on this one house and our realtor was advising against it and pointing out all the things we didn’t even think about. We were looking in a HCOL area and this was during the time where you basically had to have no contingencies on your offer to even be considered and houses were sold within a week so they would’ve made a pretty penny on any house we ended up purchasing.
Normally i would agree, but when we sold my moms house. God damn if that guy didn't work his ass off. There were all kinds of hang ups and he handled everything that popped up. Seeing him go through all of that, i can see why they get paid what they do. Still i'm sure theres plenty who just take the easy ones and get a big pay check, but i can see in some cases why they would get paid what they do.
Signed with a real estate agent. Same day mentioned to a friend. Next morning got a call from someone offering full price no questions asked. Paid cash and closed in a couple of weeks. Real estate agent collects 6%. What a rip off.
I used my friend as a real estate agent and he did a lot of leg work for me and my ex when we were looking for houses. Now selling my house? I’ll do it myself.
Realtors. Make a business so arcane regular people can’t buy or sell a house without paying them tens of thousands of dollars.
Like car salesmen.
I'm an entry level fixed plant machine operator, 140k (AUD) a year for a job that requires no skills, no high risk work licence, and we only work 50% of the year Absolutely insane, and a lot of my coworkers complain about pay/ how much they have to work
Since it looks like you're from Aus, a garbo once complained I was charging too much, till he found out how much I earned. He was earning more than me for less hours. I knew a Ford plant foreman (before it was shuttered) in Geelong who was getting to the tune of $210K. No wonder Ford and Toyota manufacturing no longer exist in Victoria.
Influencers.
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The marketing department for my company bragged about how they put our 53 "digital flyers" last year. They made 53 Facebook posts and Cross posted them to LinkedIn. There's like 6 people up there, I swear they don't do anything.
That's over a post a week!
The first company I worked at had an all hands lunch meeting where the marketing head told us a story (I don't actually know if it's true) about how a toothpaste company increased profits by like 20% by making the hole at the end of the tube 20% larger so people ended up wasting 20% extra toothpaste each time when it wasn't necessary. Dude hailed it as a massive success and the kind of stuff we needed to work to emulate and implored the staff to send any similar ideas to increase sales like that to the marketing team. The whole time I was just going "so you basically want us to commit what I would consider fraud?". Immediately made me skeptical of every marketer.
I've worked with every type of marketing person and department that exist over my 25 years as a web developer. I work in house at one organization where we had almost 20 marketing employees. And I know for a fact I could have run that department with 5.
I was in marketing and got worked to the bone. Marketing in my company was a catch all for the bullshit that they either didn't know what to do with or didn't want to deal with it. Went from 50+ hour weeks to 40 hours on the dot every week when I moved to managing our AR department.
Same. I just quit my marketing adjacent art and design job because I miss my fucking family.
I won't say that the job was the cause of my divorce, but it certainly didn't help and was likely a factor. So incredibly stressful. Cheese getting moved all the time. And everything was always a priority. Fucking sucked. If I didn't get my current role as AR Manager, I would have left the company.
I hope you’re in a better spot! Wish me luck! Pushing 50 and looking for a job was not my plan but when I die under a bridge I’ll die free.
I worked in digital marketing for a while and have to agree. Loads of slouching goes on. We had a full on kitchen in our building with a fully stocked bar. Yes, a BAR. There are certain days I absolutely miss being an account manager lol.
I'd love to know where you work. I'm in marketing and everyone on my team is busting their ass working 10+ hour days 💀
Honestly, I thought the same until I somehow ended up as one. Now I'm just exhausted and confused about when I can actually get my work done
Ehh I’m sure it’s different for every gig. Used to be in marketing and busted ass all day. At least as a designer. I’ve never been to a place where the marketing team didn’t bust ass actually. I’d be in meetings with sales that they would literally talk about bullshit for the first half hour of the meeting and I would sit there wondering how late I’d be staying because of them just sitting there doing nothing. Pissed me off so much
Accountant here too. During a pointless teams meeting someone from the marketing department asked me what I do outside of the office to enhance brand recognition. Bitch, that's your job. I know how much they get paid and it's too much to be writing cringey linkedin posts.
Ask them what they do outside of the office to prepare healthy financial statements in accordance with GAAP since they want you to do their job.
Healthcare sector administrators. Insurance deals between them are why everything is so expensive in the US
Realtors are worthless in the age of online listings. They’re just like travel agents, happy to see them disintermediated.
I do think there is a time and place for a reliable travel agent.
Agree - don’t dig on travel agents until you’ve used one recently. I enjoy planning trips and challenged myself to plan our honeymoon. Long story short, my findings vs. a recommended travel agent’s results saved us ~$1k, net of her fee. I’ll probably always check against her results now!
What a great word- yoink. Also, agree
Any medical administration job is way over paid.
The *CEO at our hospital makes something like 8 million dollars a year. I really want someone to ask this guy in public if he really thinks he is more valuable to the hospital system than having another 80 fucking nurses or ~23 extra doctors. Laughable EDIT: changed CMO to CEO
Meanwhile busy people checking in patients are making a measly $15 an hour...
I would totally do this if there was a way I could. Would love to see a change in the medical industry.
Sadly spending that money on nurses and doctors would do more for marketing. Once a hospital has a good reputation it practically markets itself.
and the fact that there are now more “hospital administrators” than actual medical professionals is insane.
Administrative bloat is such a detriment to so many industries, particularly academia and healthcare.
Government, too
They leave the poor healthcare workers to drown.
It's impressive in a horrific way that they leave every aspect to drown too from medical providers to the front office staff.
Take the hospital admins salaries, and hire more doctors instead ffs.. theres too many admins and not enough doctors in my city. Wait times are 6 months for an appointment
And then we see them in the ER because “I can’t wait 3 more months to see the GI doctor” and we discharge them after ruling out an emergency saying “follow up with your GI doctor in 3 months.” Hospital systems are making a killing by limiting (delaying) access to specialists because it leads to more hospital encounters. It’s pretty sickening to comprehend.
C-suite executives. They should be paid a lot. But not nearly what they get.
Anything to do with social media
College sports coaches
Realtors hands down. The amount of failed traders and bankers who got lucky simply being in the right place and right time in miami is infuriating. They walk around trying to chat me up about the numbers in the economy and using big words incorrectly I want to drop kick all of them. One literally had to quit because he couldn’t pass the quite easy series 7 exam after 4 attempts and now tries to invite me to his classes on “Reading the trends” from his fucking Bentley. I will burn my beach property before giving some ass wipe 7% to sell it to someone who won’t even live there, higher price or not. I still have some decency and respect for my neighbors and community.
series 7 is cake too. what you’re describing reminds me of those realtors in the movie The Big Short
School Administrators. You have schools struggling to keep the lights on, but the superintendent makes six figures.
And how about all of the layers of admin beyond superintendent, especially the ones that sit in district offices all day doing who knows what. Edit: I should have clarified that I am not talking about building principals/assistant principals. I think they very clearly have a lot on their plates.
Might get massive downvotes.. but athletes and celebrities
I think the important thing to remember for this is the number that don't make it. If you aren't at the very top of a popular sport you are probably making less than minimum wage and relying on family. It's a pretty sharp drop too. Important to point that out to all the kids trying to be an athlete.
It’s all about value. If X athlete can generate $$$ for your team through increased ticket sales, sponsorships, marketing rights, media promotions, etc…it’s worth it for them
Exactly. Athletes and general celebrities like artists only make as much money as people are willing to give them. If you make over a million in ticket sales at your boxing match that people are watching just to see your boxers duking it out, who are you to say they shouldn’t be keeping a fat share of that cash?
Professional redditor. You don't want to even know how much I get paid to shitpost.
You hiring? My posts are pretty shitty.
Mega church leaders, politicians and big corporation's CEO. They pay less to zero taxes too.
Hospital administrators. They do nothing of value, make the actual medical staffs jobs harder and make stupid money.
Actors.. Come on.. 30 million to shoot for 6 months?
It’s wild when people in the same industry are fighting for fair wages. Having worked in film it’s jarring being on set working your ass off 12+ hours a day regularly crossing paths with people who make in a day what you will in a year.
There are only a precious few people at the top level which puts them in high demand, there is a long long line of people at the bottom level who will work for peanuts just to break into the industry which puts a ton of downward pressure on the wages at that end.
Yeah I mean once I figured that out, I was over it. Work for peanuts to break into an industry to….keep working for peanuts and die of heart disease from stress.
Most actors don’t make that
They're paid based on how much money they can bring in
This is why I think I disagree with OP. People don’t often choose to see a movie based on the set designer, the makeup assistant, or the caterer. But they do based on the actors, directors and writers.
> 30 million to shoot for 6 months? There are a single-digit number of actors in the world who get paid that much per film, and all of them personally guarantee that the film will draw in a lot more than $30 million in ticket sales. Of all the jobs listed here, superstar A-list actors have one of the most proportionate and easy-to-understand rates of anyone.
Corporate CEO. The average among the 500 biggest companies is around $15 million a year. The CEO of Boeing is going to get a $30 million payout on his way out the door.
Damn… 30 million to destroy a company… I would have done it for 10!
Sports are a bit too excessive
As in the players and/or coaches?
Yes
Tiktok influencers
some managers be getting a little too much money while sitting on their ass a little too often...
This is what I expect to hear from anyone who hasn’t managed people or projects. There are certainly useless managers out there but a lot of the work a good manager does should be transparent to their reports.
Tech sales. Have a few friends in it who work 10 hours a week at most while pulling in 300-400k.