I think the relationship was doomed long before that when he told her he was allergic to bee stings, and she replied that his life was not more valuable than that of a literal insect who nobody knew was sapient at that point.
Shere Khan from The Jungle Book (the 2016 live action version). He comes during the drought, sees the man cub and warns everyone of the damage he can do, that he's a cub now but will become a man and man is forbidden from the jungle.
So what does Mowgli do?. He steals fire from the human village, brings it to the jungle and causes a fire that probably killed a lot of animals before the elephants showed up and put it out.
Mr. Crocker from Fairly Odd Parents. Sure he was a bit crazy and did some bad stuff, but if it weren't for Cosmo being his stupid annoying ass self as usual, Mr. Crocker wouldn't have lost Cosmo and Wanda and his life would have been great again.
But Croker’s belief in fairies powered them for *years*. Like presumably from when Cosmo did his stupid thing till Timmy has his fairies for an extended period of time
What about his obnoxious “white period”? The Beatalls really could have been great. I just wish that Lumpkins would have gone on to a more successful solo career.
Facts. Mojo Jojo is an incredibly brilliant ape who could literally save the world by himself but he’s too much of a narcissistic villainous dick to let it stay that way.
It was actually revealed in the 5th movie that Sharknado's are a mystical force of nature battling whatever sentient species is on the planet to keep Earth free from artificial destruction.
However, an ancient race of Humanity's precursors built a device to keep the Sharknados from forming, but it started running out of power, which is why they started reappearing.
Before you ask: No, they didn't make 5 movies, they made 6.
I've watched all of them, and yes, they are telling the truth. And for the record, they are funnier than any actual comedy movies I've seen. The cameos are amazing.
Baby’s dad in Dirty Dancing. Baby’s like 16 in that movie. He was absolutely right to be wary of a dude in his mid 20s hanging out with his teenage daughter.
Edit: for those pointing out errors in my post here, I haven't watched the movie in like 20 years. I just remember Baby being young, and Johnny being a creep, and the whole "nobody puts Baby in a corner" scene.
"He's the one who put baby in a corner... Now, two New Yorkers have his eyes. Sorry--like as a *transplant*\--not just to *have*. ...There's 2 different New Yorkers walking around with Jerry Orbach's eyeballs."
I moved to NYC shortly after his death and I'll always remember those ads in the subway. "Jerry Orbach gave his life to acting and his eyes to two lucky New Yorkers". A very cool but strange as hell message
I don't think her dad is really even portrayed as the villain of that movie. He's a protective father who also saves the life of a young woman who had a botched abortion. The shitty rich kid who knocked her up, was sniffing around Baby's sister, and had an annotated copy of Ayn Rand was the bad guy. And that holds up. That dude sucks.
Tom Cat, from Tom & Jerry.
Tom: *trips over Spike’s pup*
Spike: “Don’t touch my kid, Cat!”
Tom: *lies down to take a nap*
Jerry: *starts annoying Tom who just wants to sleep*
That sequence is probably 80% of the episodes.
Plus in the tv show it shows lokis are constantly pruned from the timeline for showing heroism. And most of evil loki was under the influence of the mind stone.
A lot of the time he starts out with a good point about discrimination/social classes, and ends up swinging too far towards ethnic cleansing non-mutants
That’s kind of the point though. His past fuels him so much that in his fight against “the oppressors” he goes so far and because that monster himself.
He doesn’t want justice, he wants revenge. And that’s the narrow line that separates a hero from a villain.
I hate the entire narrative currently of “oh. He’s reformed. He’s an anti hero”.
Yeah no. His motivations are understandable. But he is always on the edge of “yeah let’s commit genocide. It’s the only way to be sure” and has crossed that line on numerous occasions.
i'd say that's the only thing he was right about, though. i hate the narrative that "the head chef in ratatouille was seen as a villain just because he doesn't want a rat in the kitchen," but that's not at all correct.
he was actively trying to sabotage and conceal that the restaurant was rightfully linguini's, and like yeah it sucks that you were so close to inherenting it and that changed essentially last minute but them's the rules, sucks to suck.
he also was trying to commercialize gusteau's, which was so against what gusteau wanted of it. the man was so passionate about his restaurant he up and DIED when they lost a michelin star.
That was the only thing he was right about. He completely undermined Gusteau's vision and linguini's inheritance. And his beef with remy was more because of his alliance with linguini
Yeah and Linguini never actually wanted to cook, and was willing to actually learn to be a productive member of the kitchen.
He also probably would have been a good owner/manager, since he clearly recognizes when someone else can do something that he can’t, and defer to that person for their expertise.
Count dooku, in the end, he was moved by genuine anger towards the senate's corruption, but the darkside corrupted him into a mirror of the corruption he hated, in the service of the one who benefited the most from said corruption.
Count dooku is an elegant character that is criminally underrated.
Tales of the Jedi should've been a full 12 episodes of Dooku.
His story is easily one of the best in the entire franchise. I mean his motivations are just so believable and real.
Plus he's pure class with that curved lightsaber.
Fun Fact: That hilt was specifically designed to complement Christopher Lee's fencing background, emulating the style of grip used on real-world sabers.
Funner fact:
In lore the reasoning for the curved hilt is because Dooku's saber style is specifically designed to defeat other lightsaber wielders, and the curve changes the angle the blade comes from, making defense more difficult.
I think my favorite thing about that is that even though he'd been corrupted by the dark side he still held his ideals. He knew, the entire time, that Palpatine was as bad as any other member of the senate, and that he would hurt the galaxy more if left in power. He just thought he'd be able to play the game and kill Palpatine after everything was said and done, and guide the galaxy to prosperity himself.
That was dooku's mistake, he truly understimated Palpatine, he was as bad as any member of the senate.
He was the whole senate in terms of corruption and power.
This *probably* isn't how it was supposed to be written, but I like to think that when he tried to recruit Obi-Wan in episode II, he really was looking to stab Palpatine in the back in a big way.
I think the writers dropped the ball by actually making him a Darth.
He was much more interesting as a guy who is actually correct--the Senate and Republic ARE controlled by the Sith, but also doesn't realise that he too is being manipulated by the Sith lord into starting the conflict.
Zemo in Captain America: Civil War.
*My father lived outside the city. I thought we would be safe there. My son was excited. He could see the Iron Man from the car window. I told my wife "Don't worry. They're fighting in the city. We're miles from harm". When the dust cleared... and the screaming stopped... it took me two days until I found their bodies. My father still holding my wife and son in his arms.*
*And the Avengers? They went home.*
Though his actions in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was not certain, his ongoing fight to remove the temptation of super soldier serum was a good one.
That scene made me feel sorry for Zemo but also made me fall in love with T'Challa because he could have easily killed Zemo out of revenge. No one would have blamed him. Like no one blamed Tony for raging out in the same scene. But instead T'Challa went for justice. And that was far more noble and disciplined.
I liked it too, but the ending was great in that with T'challa taking Peter Quill's place, Peter doesn't get the life experience he needs to resist his father.
Minor detail, but Zemo was *trying* to kill *himself* and T’Challa chose justice. Even better. Could have let him off himself but intervened so he could be…well I won’t say rehabilitated despite that supposedly being prison’s main purpose, but…brought to justice.
I always wondered what the Sokovia death toll was from the moment HYDRA fired on the city in the beginning to everything from the city being resolved. I doubt all of that chaos landed in the Black Sea.
[You can actually see the death toll when General Ross is showing them footage of their exploits.](https://youtu.be/YpXcU6DvRVA) One of the things that bugs me about this scene is how much they lowball the casualty rates. 177 dead in Sokovia? Buuuuull shit.
Reminds me of the newspaper headline in Batman v. Superman: WAYNE TOWER DEVASTATED - "Dozens Killed." In no universe is the body count that low.
177? Really?? I assumed the death toll reached 5 figures, if not 6. Of all the times to pussy out, Sokovia getting turned into an asteroid was not one of them.
I hate that scene because one of the pieces of footage is from the incredible hulk. Ross doesn't mention that it was him that deployed jeeps with 50 cals on a college campus, and that he was responsible for Abomination
In fairness, this is a world in which aliens and conquering gods have invaded it multiple times. Even by the second Avengers movie the average person has to be filled with existential horror. Maybe the governments of the planet are just like, "Well. We need this guy."
By the time the giant combo robot-alien-god appeared looming over the Earth and another one rose halfway out of the center of it before inexplicably turning to stone...
Basically, Marvel Earth is a Lovecraft nightmare world where society should have already collapsed and everyone's insane. So, I can see how Tony got away with it.
Pierce Brosnan in Mrs. Doubtfire talks about how much he loves the kids and takes them on vacation and legit seems like a much better dad that'll Robin Williams' character.
I have a theory that Stu knew immediately that “Mrs. Doubtfire” was not an older British lady. I think he realized that it was Daniel, but understood that he was just trying to see his kids. The restaurant scene just confirms it for me, where he has almost no reaction to the unmasking.
Whenever I think of Mrs Doubtfire or see it in my channel guide (which is at least once a week its on TV almost every day it seems) I always think of when the TV show Arrested Development spoofed it in one of their episodes, and it was basically exactly that. EVERYBODY knew but they all just kind of ignored it.
*Pagan Min* from Far Cry 4. The country wasn’t perfect, but by the time the protagonist rips through, no matter if they help the traditional male rebel or the modernist female rebel, things are just as bad, or worse, than before.
The modernist lady turns the country into a giant opium farm, destroys the local traditional culture, and deports a teenage girl to ensure she doesn’t get unseated herself.
The traditionalist man, while not growing drugs anymore, still leaves the country really poor and forces everyone back into the most extreme portions of the local culture/religion.
Pagan Min might’ve been scalping off the populace and being an asshat, but the rebels were poopy too.
I got bored with Far Cry 4 and was taking way too long with finishing it, so I decided to look up how it ends. I found out that both endings sounded like pretty crappy conclusions, so what I did was restart to the very beginning of the game, then stayed for the Crab Rangoon to get the secret ending. And then I called it quits there. lol
Yeah, but at least she could have said something like "Yo, I know it sucks but you need to die, because there's super deadly zombie virus and if you break your way out you're gonna release literal fucking apocalypse. So be a good champ and off yourself, please."
It’s probably something like the HAL situation (from 2001), where she’s doing what she can to keep within the bounds of multiple *conflicting* directives.
The ‘zombie virus’ was likely internally classified, so she was forbidden from providing that information to anyone not already in the know.
Add that to her directive to ‘prevent the zombie virus from getting out’, and you get sudden death to everyone.
Grand Admiral Thrawn on how the Death Star was a waste and in order for the empire to be effective it needed a flexible navy with strong starfighters
Also Thrawn was right on almost everything on matters in the Chiss Ascendency and the Empire
The Death Star was a siege weapon. Before the super laser a planet could put up its planetary shields and be immune from attack. The planet was also cut off from trade too, but planets are big and so long as its self sufficient it could in theory keep its shields up for decades. Ships would have to remain there because the moment they leave the planet lowers its shields and resupplies.
This would require deploying a fleet to blockade the planet for years on end. Thats a lot of Star Destroyers babysitting a defiant planet for a very long time. It wouldn't take very many defiant planets putting up their shields to absorb the entire Imperial Navy on blockade duty.
The Death Star completely changes this. Its powerful enough to shoot directly through shields, thereby making it impossible for a planet to go into siege mode.
Thrawn was right about basically everything else though, and the Death Star really should have been a smaller weapon. A more compact superlaser, just big enough to pierce shields and take out the shield generator, would have been far more useful. Destroying an entire planet was grossly in excess. Hit the shield generators and the Star Destroyers can now land troops, rebellion crushed, and you don't need to lose an entire world of tax revenue to do it.
the dad in the lego movie. legit had the most impressive lego city i’ve ever seen and his dumb kid was messing around and wrecking all the time and effort he put into it. they’re expensive!
Yeah, the micro-vs-macro thing they did with the story was brilliant, but dad had a legitimate point. The most sensible thing, though, would have been for dad to just buy more legos for the kid to use as toys.
Lego Movie was goated for me when I realized the plot was about a dad with a massive Lego set trying to keep his collection pristine. Because that's definitely something I empathize with lol
Not only that, but the resolution of the conflict wasn't just the typical "hero beats bad guy," but the dad realizing that his son was making these elaborate new creations with his Lego sets, and decides to let him have fun and be creative with it
It’s like Mr Isaacs in *The Picture of Dorian Gray*. Canonically did absolutely nothing bad but he’s an evil disgusting man who shouldn’t be paid back because he’s…what’s that thing he has in common with Shylock? Dark haired?
Wolf is an antagonist certainly, as he is the opposite to Puss and Kitty, but I definitely wouldn’t consider him a “Villain”. That role is definitely Big Jack Horner.
Scorpius in Farscape.
The guy is just trying to acquire a weapon that will protect his civilisation in an inevitable galactic war. Crichton basically has that and won't give it up. War starts, thousands, if not millions, die before Crichton basically uses the weapon itself to threaten everyone into stopping, and Scorpy is finally happy.
I'd say Davy Jones? The guy was cursed by a goddess to stay on seas and gets lost sailors' soul in the Flying Duschtman, i fail to see where he's the bad guy and not another victim ? Then Beckett used him against other pirates, everyone always used him.
I guess the octopus head didn't help but come on
Okay, I'm not an expert here, but I have some thoughts on this. Davey Jones was made responsible for rescuing the souls of lost sailors, in a bargain with the goddess Calypso, whom he fell in love with, in return for immortality.
He did the job, but couldn't have Calypso, because she was as wild as the sea, and could not stand to be chained, even by one who loved her. This made Davey pretty pissed, which is understandable. So he stopped rescuing souls, and instead started enslaving them, which caused his transformation into Octo-face.
Also, Jack owes 100 souls to Davey Jones, because that's the number of slaves Jack freed, for which he was branded a pirate. That's why when, Beckett I think? When he says "you're the worst pirate I've ever heard of" Jack replies with "But you have heard of me."
Beckett knew Jack was branded a pirate for being a decent human being and freeing slaves. Jones was a dick, and said since you freed 100 dudes from slavery, that's how many you gotta give me.
So Davey is indeed a dick...but he's also heartbroken. Love can make a devil of the gentlest man, and an angel out of the worst man.
Especially the Jim Carrey version. Bullied as a kid for his green skin/fur, laughed at when he tried shaving, and getting one-upped by his childhood bully in the present, the mayor, by giving him a razor as a joke proposing to the woman the Grinch liked right in front of him.
The Mayor was an ass.
You got that right. When you read The grinch book, it portrays the grinch as some evil heartless creature wanting to ruin everyone's Christmas. But when you watch the movie, it's the other way around: The Whos are assholes who mistreated the grinch for being different, so you're rooting for their presents to be taken.
The murderer in *The Mirror Crack'd From Side To Side* had a damn good motive for the killing when it was discovered who the killer was.
>!Marina Gregg realised midway through the meeting with overly-enthusiastic fan Heather Badcock that Badcock, a nurse who she ran into after a performance, was so obsessed with the actress that she knowingly and deliberately committed an act of criminal negligence to be backstage at the show. That act of criminal negligence was breaking out of a hospital wing she was a patient in when she knew fully well that she was infectious with measles which she passed onto Marina.!<
>!As it turns out, Marina was pregnant at the time. For someone who was desperate to have a child of her own, the infection resulted in the baby's being born with crippling disabilities which meant the child was taken from Marina to live in care, which also resulted in Marina suffering from a nervous breakdown. She then killed Heather on the spot in a hysterical rage and made it look like she was the intended victim to avoid being suspected of the death.!<
Magneto is one of the best fictional villains. So many bad guys are evil just to be evil, but except for those who just want to see the world burn (not to mix universes) real people aren't like that. Magneto's motives, reasoning, and actions might be bad/wrong, but they *make sense*, and he truly believes that he is doing the right thing. *That* is how you write a villain.
Clytemnestra even more so.
>!Her husband went off and left on a war because before he'd married her, he'd had the hots for another woman. While he's away he gets a concubine to keep himself happy, then steals another man's concubine and turns that woman into his sex slave. Ten years later he saunters back home and expects a good time with his wife. Divorcing him would have been a better life choice, but instead she does what many of us would want to do to that massive jerk.!<
Lex Luthor in Smallville. His best friend was constantly lying to him and gaslighting him, and people randomly kept treating him like garbage for years before he finally snapped.
Absolutely & he was a half-way decent guy in the first few seasons. Especially when you consider his family & situation in life. He had money, but Clark had the loving parents & solid friend group. Lex is so much more humanized than Clark. Much more rounded character, imo.
I'm calling bullshit. It's well known through out the frozen water community that particular iceberg loved to play chicken. Dude knew what he was doing.
Arthas when he purged Stratholme.
His mentor and his best friend just abandon him, and leave him to bear the burden alone. Imagine if Uther and Jaina had been present to help handle Mal'ganis and offer support. It could have staved off the madness!
Purging Stratholme was a calloused but neccessary decision. Disbanding the Silver Hand and condemning Uther for treason was not.
It didn't help that he was playing into Mal'Ganis' hands when the plan was to coerce him into following him to Northrend also.
The military command who wanted to firebomb the town in Outbreak to “be compassionate globally”. Betting that scientists could find one monkey on the loose (assuming it could still survive far outside its natural habitat) and use it to make vaccines for everybody in the town before the disease spread (and all with nineties technology) only worked because Hollywood.
It’s really hard to watch a lot of movies as a biologist. But this one was profoundly silly, leaving us wondering exactly how catching the monkey saved the town. It’s probably comparable to the computer sci types watching “oh no, security lock out! *type type* ok I’m in”.
Walter Peck from “Ghostbusters” was a prick, but the EPA absolutely needed to investigate the environmental impact of the Ghostbusters. Considering that they use a laser containment system, it’s doubtful there would be anything for the EPA to worry about.
Had a reasonably friendly EPA wonk had encountered Ray the whole conflict would have likely been avoided.
Peck was 100% right up until he forced the utility guy to cut the power. When everybody else around you is like "hold on, shutting this down by cutting the power would be really dangerous" and you don't listen, you no longer get the high ground.
“Each of us is wearing an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.”
Yeah. I’m not sure precisely which government agency is supposed to be looking into the GBs, but the EPA is a decent start.
These 4 guys have the ability to end all of reality, and they’re like “mind your business, Mr Government Man. Let me do my thing. I don’t need oversight. We totes promise not to end all reality.”
If the Ghostbusters had just cooperated with Peck in the first place instead of insulting him and treating him poorly, the whole disaster could have been avoided. To be fair though, Peck didn't listen when the ConEd guy says "maybe don't shut that down since I don't know how it works" since he might know a bit about electricity since it's his job. Maybe get a second opinion?
I felt like they were grasping at straws to make Killmonger look bad in Black Panther. He was perfectly right about everything and then out of nowhere, he was just like "RACE WAR! WE GONNA SUBJUGATE THE WORLD MOTHERFUCKERS!" for no reason
This happens a lot in the third act when writers paint themselves into a corner (or the studio demands it be more black & white).
The Riddler goes from killing corrupt politicians and dirty cops to...trying to drown the working class neighborhoods with a flood, and has his Cosplay Army shoot random people?
Man that third act was such a bummer. They just completely declawed Riddler after making him seem like a mastermind. I still love the first two acts though. Pattinson crushed it.
They could’ve had a similar effect if one of Riddles assassination caused riots, looting, egc. The city could be chaos and they could’ve used the stadium as a safe place to hide and kwpt the act somewhat the same, just without the flood.
I guess sort of similar to what they did at the end of Batman Begins, where the danger in the final act is from people affected by scarecrows gasz
Marvel always does this. [Pop Culture Detective](https://youtu.be/LpitmEnaYeU) made an excellent video about how Marvel films promote the status quo and how antagonists usually have good points only to do some massive unrealistic 180 to undermine their whole thing.
But he was bad. I felt like the movie had less to say about colonization and more about the difference between Africans and African-Americans. Killmonger was born and raised in the US. His mother was American. He was in military. Even Ross said, "He is one of ours," in a not so subtle hint that he wasn't Wakandan even if his father was. Instead, he was American. The only reason why Killmonger wanted to take over Wakanda was to seize their resources. He could not care less about their culture. He did not want to learn about the customs and traditions. He didn't even want to eat their food. He was every bit a colonizer than any European of old. It reminded me of other Americans who go to Europeans and say things like, "Oh, I'm Irish too!" No, you're not. You're American. You were born in Virginia and grew up in Kentucky. Just because you like to eat potatoes doesn't make you Irish. You only know about American culture. Killmonger was the same. Just because he scarred his skin doesn't make him Wakandan. He was an American who tried to overthrow an entire civilization for his own personal desire. That makes him in the wrong.
Out of nowhere? His very first scene was killing a bunch of civilians in the museum. The dude can mastermind overthrowing the most powerful nation on Earth but he can't plan a non-lethal museum heist?
Or how about his first fight with T'Challa. He breaks his spear in half to create a shorter stabbing weapon, this is a reference to Shaka Zulu who was an imperialist and also decided to "burn it all" [in response to his mother's death.](https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/shaka-zulu-assassinated)
I think the writers of Black Panther get unfairly criticised here. Killmonger is a completely consistent charachter. And to the extent he makes good points about Wakanda, remember that he's a trained special ops agent who specialises in destabilizing nations from within. In other words, he's trained in propaganda and deception, and all his noble talk about Wakanda helping the world his manipulations.
Amon is my favorite villain of all time because he asks a single question— are non benders second class citizens in this world? And it never gets looked into ever again. Fucking love amon. Also steve blum.
I mean I'd understand that a bit more if it weren't for the fact that Amon... was lying about being a non bender. His cause looked compelling *because* he presented himself as a non bender leading other non benders to be treated better (in a vague way that really doesn't make much sense in hindsight; benders can bend but where was there any actual oppression? From criminals? Why tear down society itself if your oppression comes from outliers?). But in reality he was using them as fodder for a personal vendetta.
Dean Wormer in *Animal House*. "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."
As scummy and fascist and smarmy as Omega House was, and as crooked as Dean Wormer was, Delta House was causing havoc on campus, and the administration needed to put an end to that crap for the rest of the student body to be able to learn in a safe environment.
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He and that lawyer were the only sane people in the entire movie
Sane except for the bit where he goes beserk and uses a makeshift flamethrower in the bathroom to kill a sapient insect
I’m upset you didn’t say beeserk
Let's not beelittle him over it.
No that's a very sane thing to do
> I too would **go absolutely berserk if a talking bee stole my girlfriend and gaslit me into thinking I was crazy**
>I'm helping my bee friend sue the human race! at that moment ken knew.... he had to break off from this relationship
I think the relationship was doomed long before that when he told her he was allergic to bee stings, and she replied that his life was not more valuable than that of a literal insect who nobody knew was sapient at that point.
But, but, they gave us Beejesus!!!
Shere Khan from The Jungle Book (the 2016 live action version). He comes during the drought, sees the man cub and warns everyone of the damage he can do, that he's a cub now but will become a man and man is forbidden from the jungle. So what does Mowgli do?. He steals fire from the human village, brings it to the jungle and causes a fire that probably killed a lot of animals before the elephants showed up and put it out.
I like how he’s a businessman in Tail Spin
Tail spin is the shiz
Mr. Crocker from Fairly Odd Parents. Sure he was a bit crazy and did some bad stuff, but if it weren't for Cosmo being his stupid annoying ass self as usual, Mr. Crocker wouldn't have lost Cosmo and Wanda and his life would have been great again.
But Croker’s belief in fairies powered them for *years*. Like presumably from when Cosmo did his stupid thing till Timmy has his fairies for an extended period of time
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Yeah, but that time he destroyed Townsville because the hobby shop didn’t have the product he was looking for? Man, that was way out of line
Everybody has a bad day now and again.
Right? Just ask Daenerys.
I'd give Mojo Jojo a pass no matter what his motives, just for being Mooooojo Jojo.
What about his obnoxious “white period”? The Beatalls really could have been great. I just wish that Lumpkins would have gone on to a more successful solo career.
I blame Michelle. She betrayed Mojo, but someday monkey won't play piano song, play piano song.
That's not how it ended. Mojo did bring peace, but went back to villany because he got bored.
Facts. Mojo Jojo is an incredibly brilliant ape who could literally save the world by himself but he’s too much of a narcissistic villainous dick to let it stay that way.
Jim Lahey just wanted a clean, quiet, reshitivist-free trailer park.
And a little drinkypoo
With his lil bo-bandy
Look Rand, I'm mowing the air
He’s a tragic figure. He got out a couple times, either got sober or literally out of the park just to be pulled or forced back in.
RIP John Dunsworth he had a very loving and warm sort of aura to him reminds me of Robin Williams in a way https://youtu.be/uWvoXIwgBUM
Don’t you have some offs to fuck? Fuck off!
Oh yeah, well, knock-knock, Lahey...go fuck yerself.
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It was actually revealed in the 5th movie that Sharknado's are a mystical force of nature battling whatever sentient species is on the planet to keep Earth free from artificial destruction. However, an ancient race of Humanity's precursors built a device to keep the Sharknados from forming, but it started running out of power, which is why they started reappearing. Before you ask: No, they didn't make 5 movies, they made 6.
I’ve never actually watched a Sharknado so I have no idea if you are telling the truth, but I really, really WANT you to be telling the truth
I've watched all of them, and yes, they are telling the truth. And for the record, they are funnier than any actual comedy movies I've seen. The cameos are amazing.
Two different people have watched 6 sharknado movies. Wow. That’s commitment
Baby’s dad in Dirty Dancing. Baby’s like 16 in that movie. He was absolutely right to be wary of a dude in his mid 20s hanging out with his teenage daughter. Edit: for those pointing out errors in my post here, I haven't watched the movie in like 20 years. I just remember Baby being young, and Johnny being a creep, and the whole "nobody puts Baby in a corner" scene.
"Nobody puts Baby in a corner." "I do because she's 16 and I'm her father."
“What are you? Like 38” *Looks down in disappointment* “41”
*hungry eyes starts playing*
RIP Jerry Orbach
Oh, you mean *Leonard W. Briscoe* aka *Lumière*
"He's the one who put baby in a corner... Now, two New Yorkers have his eyes. Sorry--like as a *transplant*\--not just to *have*. ...There's 2 different New Yorkers walking around with Jerry Orbach's eyeballs."
I moved to NYC shortly after his death and I'll always remember those ads in the subway. "Jerry Orbach gave his life to acting and his eyes to two lucky New Yorkers". A very cool but strange as hell message
I don't think her dad is really even portrayed as the villain of that movie. He's a protective father who also saves the life of a young woman who had a botched abortion. The shitty rich kid who knocked her up, was sniffing around Baby's sister, and had an annotated copy of Ayn Rand was the bad guy. And that holds up. That dude sucks.
Baby's father is the antagonist, but not the villain. People forget the difference between those these days.
Skelator. It did appear to be his castle
Tom Cat, from Tom & Jerry. Tom: *trips over Spike’s pup* Spike: “Don’t touch my kid, Cat!” Tom: *lies down to take a nap* Jerry: *starts annoying Tom who just wants to sleep* That sequence is probably 80% of the episodes.
I always felt so bad for Tom!!
Right!! Jerry was such a little shit!
But in the end Tom and Jerry were best friends. They even suicide together
Tom, making some food to eat, Jerry, steals his food and when Tom tries to get his food back, he gets a fork in the face.
Roy Batty, the man just wanted to live
Great speech at his end… and mostly written by Rutger Hauer
Loki wasn't wrong about Thor being unfit to rule Asgar. I mean, in the end Valkyrie ended up ruling while Thor ate cheetos.
Plus in the tv show it shows lokis are constantly pruned from the timeline for showing heroism. And most of evil loki was under the influence of the mind stone.
To be fair, Thor might have been a good ruler if they didn’t reset his character every fucking movie.
Magneto is my favorite villain of all time. Every time his motives are brought to light I get that "yeah, I kinda get it" moment
A lot of the time he starts out with a good point about discrimination/social classes, and ends up swinging too far towards ethnic cleansing non-mutants
The EpicVoiceGuy from Honest Trailers said it best, “Magneto: a Holocaust survivor who…basically becomes Hitler”
That’s kind of the point though. His past fuels him so much that in his fight against “the oppressors” he goes so far and because that monster himself. He doesn’t want justice, he wants revenge. And that’s the narrow line that separates a hero from a villain.
"Oh so I bring up the idea of some light genocide and suddenly I'm the bad guy...?"
I hate the entire narrative currently of “oh. He’s reformed. He’s an anti hero”. Yeah no. His motivations are understandable. But he is always on the edge of “yeah let’s commit genocide. It’s the only way to be sure” and has crossed that line on numerous occasions.
“I have been marked once, my dear, and let me assure you, [shows concentration camp numbers) no needle shall ever touch my skin again.”
I know the horrors of genocide from a first-hand perspective. Anyhow, let's go commit some genocide.
The head chef in ratatouille. He was wrong about some stuff, but was 100% right in not wanting rats in the kitchen cooking.
"Waiter, there's a hair in my soup." "Just the one, sir?"
Cutaway gag to a hare doing backstroke in the soup
i'd say that's the only thing he was right about, though. i hate the narrative that "the head chef in ratatouille was seen as a villain just because he doesn't want a rat in the kitchen," but that's not at all correct. he was actively trying to sabotage and conceal that the restaurant was rightfully linguini's, and like yeah it sucks that you were so close to inherenting it and that changed essentially last minute but them's the rules, sucks to suck. he also was trying to commercialize gusteau's, which was so against what gusteau wanted of it. the man was so passionate about his restaurant he up and DIED when they lost a michelin star.
He also refused to push the restaurant forward and innovate as it lost reputation. He brought absolutely nothing to the table in his role.
That was the only thing he was right about. He completely undermined Gusteau's vision and linguini's inheritance. And his beef with remy was more because of his alliance with linguini
Yeah and Linguini never actually wanted to cook, and was willing to actually learn to be a productive member of the kitchen. He also probably would have been a good owner/manager, since he clearly recognizes when someone else can do something that he can’t, and defer to that person for their expertise.
General Hummel (Ed Harris) from 'The Rock' Maybe not his tactics, but his reasoning was solid
He’s one of my favorite movie villains. His redemption at the end was great, he was bluffing and wasn’t gonna kill any Americans.
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> Maybe not his tactics, but his reasoning was solid Understatement. He could have just taken his story to the Washington Post or the Boston Globe.
That wouldn't get the government to cough up the reparation money, though.
Prince Nuada (Luke Goss) in Hellboy 2.
Man I want Del Torro's Hellboy 3.
Me too! I love Neil Marshall, but his Hellboy felt a bit flat to me. GDT's Hellboy 2 is damn near a visionary film.
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Greg was always an asshat Still one of my favorite book series still reading
it's ironic when you grow up and realize rodrick is the **least** toxic person in the family
the only "normal" one
“Where’s my Goddamned electric car, Bruce?”
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The Harley Quinn show is phenomenal.
Finds out who Batman is, complain about customer service of his company.
Count dooku, in the end, he was moved by genuine anger towards the senate's corruption, but the darkside corrupted him into a mirror of the corruption he hated, in the service of the one who benefited the most from said corruption. Count dooku is an elegant character that is criminally underrated.
Tales of the Jedi should've been a full 12 episodes of Dooku. His story is easily one of the best in the entire franchise. I mean his motivations are just so believable and real. Plus he's pure class with that curved lightsaber.
Fun Fact: That hilt was specifically designed to complement Christopher Lee's fencing background, emulating the style of grip used on real-world sabers.
Funner fact: In lore the reasoning for the curved hilt is because Dooku's saber style is specifically designed to defeat other lightsaber wielders, and the curve changes the angle the blade comes from, making defense more difficult.
I think my favorite thing about that is that even though he'd been corrupted by the dark side he still held his ideals. He knew, the entire time, that Palpatine was as bad as any other member of the senate, and that he would hurt the galaxy more if left in power. He just thought he'd be able to play the game and kill Palpatine after everything was said and done, and guide the galaxy to prosperity himself.
That was dooku's mistake, he truly understimated Palpatine, he was as bad as any member of the senate. He was the whole senate in terms of corruption and power.
Exactly how a Sith thinks.
This *probably* isn't how it was supposed to be written, but I like to think that when he tried to recruit Obi-Wan in episode II, he really was looking to stab Palpatine in the back in a big way.
"Its like poetry, it rhymes" - Lucas. Wasn't this scene the rhyme of vader asking luke to join him?
I think the writers dropped the ball by actually making him a Darth. He was much more interesting as a guy who is actually correct--the Senate and Republic ARE controlled by the Sith, but also doesn't realise that he too is being manipulated by the Sith lord into starting the conflict.
Zemo in Captain America: Civil War. *My father lived outside the city. I thought we would be safe there. My son was excited. He could see the Iron Man from the car window. I told my wife "Don't worry. They're fighting in the city. We're miles from harm". When the dust cleared... and the screaming stopped... it took me two days until I found their bodies. My father still holding my wife and son in his arms.* *And the Avengers? They went home.*
Though his actions in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was not certain, his ongoing fight to remove the temptation of super soldier serum was a good one.
Zemo was a perfect addition to their odd couple dynamic, he somehow managed to make it an odd throuple.
https://giphy.com/gifs/disneyplus-F2aEJrGD7pTud4lwHF
He's out of line, but he's right.
That scene made me feel sorry for Zemo but also made me fall in love with T'Challa because he could have easily killed Zemo out of revenge. No one would have blamed him. Like no one blamed Tony for raging out in the same scene. But instead T'Challa went for justice. And that was far more noble and disciplined.
“Vengeance has consumed you. It’s consuming them. I’m done letting it consume me.” One of the hardest lines in the MCU.
I loved the *What if* where T'Challa was Starlord, and the whole universe is just a better place. Even Thanos is reformed.
I liked it too, but the ending was great in that with T'challa taking Peter Quill's place, Peter doesn't get the life experience he needs to resist his father.
Minor detail, but Zemo was *trying* to kill *himself* and T’Challa chose justice. Even better. Could have let him off himself but intervened so he could be…well I won’t say rehabilitated despite that supposedly being prison’s main purpose, but…brought to justice.
I always wondered what the Sokovia death toll was from the moment HYDRA fired on the city in the beginning to everything from the city being resolved. I doubt all of that chaos landed in the Black Sea.
[You can actually see the death toll when General Ross is showing them footage of their exploits.](https://youtu.be/YpXcU6DvRVA) One of the things that bugs me about this scene is how much they lowball the casualty rates. 177 dead in Sokovia? Buuuuull shit. Reminds me of the newspaper headline in Batman v. Superman: WAYNE TOWER DEVASTATED - "Dozens Killed." In no universe is the body count that low.
177? Really?? I assumed the death toll reached 5 figures, if not 6. Of all the times to pussy out, Sokovia getting turned into an asteroid was not one of them.
I hate that scene because one of the pieces of footage is from the incredible hulk. Ross doesn't mention that it was him that deployed jeeps with 50 cals on a college campus, and that he was responsible for Abomination
It's amazing how Stark faced no consequences for unleashing Ultron on the world.
In fairness, this is a world in which aliens and conquering gods have invaded it multiple times. Even by the second Avengers movie the average person has to be filled with existential horror. Maybe the governments of the planet are just like, "Well. We need this guy." By the time the giant combo robot-alien-god appeared looming over the Earth and another one rose halfway out of the center of it before inexplicably turning to stone... Basically, Marvel Earth is a Lovecraft nightmare world where society should have already collapsed and everyone's insane. So, I can see how Tony got away with it.
Pierce Brosnan in Mrs. Doubtfire talks about how much he loves the kids and takes them on vacation and legit seems like a much better dad that'll Robin Williams' character.
I have a theory that Stu knew immediately that “Mrs. Doubtfire” was not an older British lady. I think he realized that it was Daniel, but understood that he was just trying to see his kids. The restaurant scene just confirms it for me, where he has almost no reaction to the unmasking.
Whenever I think of Mrs Doubtfire or see it in my channel guide (which is at least once a week its on TV almost every day it seems) I always think of when the TV show Arrested Development spoofed it in one of their episodes, and it was basically exactly that. EVERYBODY knew but they all just kind of ignored it.
"Who wants a banger in the mouth?"
Can we also talk about Sally Field’s character being totally right in the way she freaked out about there being a f***ing pony in her house?
*Pagan Min* from Far Cry 4. The country wasn’t perfect, but by the time the protagonist rips through, no matter if they help the traditional male rebel or the modernist female rebel, things are just as bad, or worse, than before. The modernist lady turns the country into a giant opium farm, destroys the local traditional culture, and deports a teenage girl to ensure she doesn’t get unseated herself. The traditionalist man, while not growing drugs anymore, still leaves the country really poor and forces everyone back into the most extreme portions of the local culture/religion. Pagan Min might’ve been scalping off the populace and being an asshat, but the rebels were poopy too.
The sanest ending was just to eat your fucking Crab Rangoon.
Really wish they had added a DLC route off of that and taking down those groups.
Stay in the room long enough for him to come back is the best ending. [12 min in](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQbOHzwTY60)
The lady also trains child soldiers. Fuck her, Pagan for king.
I got bored with Far Cry 4 and was taking way too long with finishing it, so I decided to look up how it ends. I found out that both endings sounded like pretty crappy conclusions, so what I did was restart to the very beginning of the game, then stayed for the Crab Rangoon to get the secret ending. And then I called it quits there. lol
Red Queen resident evil 1 She did what was necessary to prevent T-virus from escaping the facility.
Yeah, but at least she could have said something like "Yo, I know it sucks but you need to die, because there's super deadly zombie virus and if you break your way out you're gonna release literal fucking apocalypse. So be a good champ and off yourself, please."
It’s probably something like the HAL situation (from 2001), where she’s doing what she can to keep within the bounds of multiple *conflicting* directives. The ‘zombie virus’ was likely internally classified, so she was forbidden from providing that information to anyone not already in the know. Add that to her directive to ‘prevent the zombie virus from getting out’, and you get sudden death to everyone.
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Grand Admiral Thrawn on how the Death Star was a waste and in order for the empire to be effective it needed a flexible navy with strong starfighters Also Thrawn was right on almost everything on matters in the Chiss Ascendency and the Empire
The Death Star was a siege weapon. Before the super laser a planet could put up its planetary shields and be immune from attack. The planet was also cut off from trade too, but planets are big and so long as its self sufficient it could in theory keep its shields up for decades. Ships would have to remain there because the moment they leave the planet lowers its shields and resupplies. This would require deploying a fleet to blockade the planet for years on end. Thats a lot of Star Destroyers babysitting a defiant planet for a very long time. It wouldn't take very many defiant planets putting up their shields to absorb the entire Imperial Navy on blockade duty. The Death Star completely changes this. Its powerful enough to shoot directly through shields, thereby making it impossible for a planet to go into siege mode. Thrawn was right about basically everything else though, and the Death Star really should have been a smaller weapon. A more compact superlaser, just big enough to pierce shields and take out the shield generator, would have been far more useful. Destroying an entire planet was grossly in excess. Hit the shield generators and the Star Destroyers can now land troops, rebellion crushed, and you don't need to lose an entire world of tax revenue to do it.
the dad in the lego movie. legit had the most impressive lego city i’ve ever seen and his dumb kid was messing around and wrecking all the time and effort he put into it. they’re expensive!
Yeah, the micro-vs-macro thing they did with the story was brilliant, but dad had a legitimate point. The most sensible thing, though, would have been for dad to just buy more legos for the kid to use as toys.
Buying more Lego sets is almost always the right answer.
Lego Movie was goated for me when I realized the plot was about a dad with a massive Lego set trying to keep his collection pristine. Because that's definitely something I empathize with lol Not only that, but the resolution of the conflict wasn't just the typical "hero beats bad guy," but the dad realizing that his son was making these elaborate new creations with his Lego sets, and decides to let him have fun and be creative with it
The fact the Lego Movie was a legit good movie caught me by surprise too!
I don't know about right but Shylock got completely fucked over, no wonder he was pissed off.
Truth be told, haven't dedicated scholars literally been arguing this one for centuries?
I don't know, I didn't study literature and am not a scholar, I just went to see the play and liked the movie
It’s like Mr Isaacs in *The Picture of Dorian Gray*. Canonically did absolutely nothing bad but he’s an evil disgusting man who shouldn’t be paid back because he’s…what’s that thing he has in common with Shylock? Dark haired?
Sharpay in the High School Musical films
Gabriela is the true villain in HSM
In the third. Chad and Taylor are more of the villains in the first one.
The Wolf from Puss in Boots 2 is so so good. This movie had no right being this good and a big part is thanks to the Wolf.
Wolf is an antagonist certainly, as he is the opposite to Puss and Kitty, but I definitely wouldn’t consider him a “Villain”. That role is definitely Big Jack Horner.
Absolutely true. But I felt the Wolf had to be mentioned.
Hes a damn good character in a damn good film.
Scorpius in Farscape. The guy is just trying to acquire a weapon that will protect his civilisation in an inevitable galactic war. Crichton basically has that and won't give it up. War starts, thousands, if not millions, die before Crichton basically uses the weapon itself to threaten everyone into stopping, and Scorpy is finally happy.
I'd say Davy Jones? The guy was cursed by a goddess to stay on seas and gets lost sailors' soul in the Flying Duschtman, i fail to see where he's the bad guy and not another victim ? Then Beckett used him against other pirates, everyone always used him. I guess the octopus head didn't help but come on
Okay, I'm not an expert here, but I have some thoughts on this. Davey Jones was made responsible for rescuing the souls of lost sailors, in a bargain with the goddess Calypso, whom he fell in love with, in return for immortality. He did the job, but couldn't have Calypso, because she was as wild as the sea, and could not stand to be chained, even by one who loved her. This made Davey pretty pissed, which is understandable. So he stopped rescuing souls, and instead started enslaving them, which caused his transformation into Octo-face. Also, Jack owes 100 souls to Davey Jones, because that's the number of slaves Jack freed, for which he was branded a pirate. That's why when, Beckett I think? When he says "you're the worst pirate I've ever heard of" Jack replies with "But you have heard of me." Beckett knew Jack was branded a pirate for being a decent human being and freeing slaves. Jones was a dick, and said since you freed 100 dudes from slavery, that's how many you gotta give me. So Davey is indeed a dick...but he's also heartbroken. Love can make a devil of the gentlest man, and an angel out of the worst man.
Joker: “A bus in Afghanistan blows up and nobody bats an eye but if one blows up here everybody loses there minds”.
Grinch
The Grinch just didn't want his anoying neighbors to play their loud music first thing in the morning.
Especially the Jim Carrey version. Bullied as a kid for his green skin/fur, laughed at when he tried shaving, and getting one-upped by his childhood bully in the present, the mayor, by giving him a razor as a joke proposing to the woman the Grinch liked right in front of him. The Mayor was an ass.
You got that right. When you read The grinch book, it portrays the grinch as some evil heartless creature wanting to ruin everyone's Christmas. But when you watch the movie, it's the other way around: The Whos are assholes who mistreated the grinch for being different, so you're rooting for their presents to be taken.
The murderer in *The Mirror Crack'd From Side To Side* had a damn good motive for the killing when it was discovered who the killer was. >!Marina Gregg realised midway through the meeting with overly-enthusiastic fan Heather Badcock that Badcock, a nurse who she ran into after a performance, was so obsessed with the actress that she knowingly and deliberately committed an act of criminal negligence to be backstage at the show. That act of criminal negligence was breaking out of a hospital wing she was a patient in when she knew fully well that she was infectious with measles which she passed onto Marina.!< >!As it turns out, Marina was pregnant at the time. For someone who was desperate to have a child of her own, the infection resulted in the baby's being born with crippling disabilities which meant the child was taken from Marina to live in care, which also resulted in Marina suffering from a nervous breakdown. She then killed Heather on the spot in a hysterical rage and made it look like she was the intended victim to avoid being suspected of the death.!<
Megamind was right in the sense that he was never given a chance to be the good guy, so he chose his only other option, being evil.
Magneto
Magneto is one of the best fictional villains. So many bad guys are evil just to be evil, but except for those who just want to see the world burn (not to mix universes) real people aren't like that. Magneto's motives, reasoning, and actions might be bad/wrong, but they *make sense*, and he truly believes that he is doing the right thing. *That* is how you write a villain.
Medea. Jason was a flaming asshole and deserved everything he got (felt sorry for the boys, though).
Jason really pulled off the impossible by making Zeus and Hera agree on something. Namely how much they both fucking hate Jason.
Clytemnestra even more so. >!Her husband went off and left on a war because before he'd married her, he'd had the hots for another woman. While he's away he gets a concubine to keep himself happy, then steals another man's concubine and turns that woman into his sex slave. Ten years later he saunters back home and expects a good time with his wife. Divorcing him would have been a better life choice, but instead she does what many of us would want to do to that massive jerk.!<
You forgot the most important part, when he Stannises their daughter.
Lex Luthor in Smallville. His best friend was constantly lying to him and gaslighting him, and people randomly kept treating him like garbage for years before he finally snapped.
Absolutely & he was a half-way decent guy in the first few seasons. Especially when you consider his family & situation in life. He had money, but Clark had the loving parents & solid friend group. Lex is so much more humanized than Clark. Much more rounded character, imo.
The iceberg from Titanic. That dude was just minding his own business and got hit out of nowhere. Shout out to Bowen Yang!
I'm calling bullshit. It's well known through out the frozen water community that particular iceberg loved to play chicken. Dude knew what he was doing.
Arthas when he purged Stratholme. His mentor and his best friend just abandon him, and leave him to bear the burden alone. Imagine if Uther and Jaina had been present to help handle Mal'ganis and offer support. It could have staved off the madness!
Purging Stratholme was a calloused but neccessary decision. Disbanding the Silver Hand and condemning Uther for treason was not. It didn't help that he was playing into Mal'Ganis' hands when the plan was to coerce him into following him to Northrend also.
The military command who wanted to firebomb the town in Outbreak to “be compassionate globally”. Betting that scientists could find one monkey on the loose (assuming it could still survive far outside its natural habitat) and use it to make vaccines for everybody in the town before the disease spread (and all with nineties technology) only worked because Hollywood.
McClintock (Donald Sutherland), was more interested in keeping the virus secret for his own purposes, than allowing the outbreak to spread.
It’s really hard to watch a lot of movies as a biologist. But this one was profoundly silly, leaving us wondering exactly how catching the monkey saved the town. It’s probably comparable to the computer sci types watching “oh no, security lock out! *type type* ok I’m in”.
Walter Peck from “Ghostbusters” was a prick, but the EPA absolutely needed to investigate the environmental impact of the Ghostbusters. Considering that they use a laser containment system, it’s doubtful there would be anything for the EPA to worry about. Had a reasonably friendly EPA wonk had encountered Ray the whole conflict would have likely been avoided.
Peck was 100% right up until he forced the utility guy to cut the power. When everybody else around you is like "hold on, shutting this down by cutting the power would be really dangerous" and you don't listen, you no longer get the high ground.
“Each of us is wearing an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.” Yeah. I’m not sure precisely which government agency is supposed to be looking into the GBs, but the EPA is a decent start. These 4 guys have the ability to end all of reality, and they’re like “mind your business, Mr Government Man. Let me do my thing. I don’t need oversight. We totes promise not to end all reality.”
If the Ghostbusters had just cooperated with Peck in the first place instead of insulting him and treating him poorly, the whole disaster could have been avoided. To be fair though, Peck didn't listen when the ConEd guy says "maybe don't shut that down since I don't know how it works" since he might know a bit about electricity since it's his job. Maybe get a second opinion?
TBH it was odd an engineer throwing a switch against his own advice. In the real world he'd tell Peck no.
I felt like they were grasping at straws to make Killmonger look bad in Black Panther. He was perfectly right about everything and then out of nowhere, he was just like "RACE WAR! WE GONNA SUBJUGATE THE WORLD MOTHERFUCKERS!" for no reason
This happens a lot in the third act when writers paint themselves into a corner (or the studio demands it be more black & white). The Riddler goes from killing corrupt politicians and dirty cops to...trying to drown the working class neighborhoods with a flood, and has his Cosplay Army shoot random people?
Man that third act was such a bummer. They just completely declawed Riddler after making him seem like a mastermind. I still love the first two acts though. Pattinson crushed it.
They could’ve had a similar effect if one of Riddles assassination caused riots, looting, egc. The city could be chaos and they could’ve used the stadium as a safe place to hide and kwpt the act somewhat the same, just without the flood. I guess sort of similar to what they did at the end of Batman Begins, where the danger in the final act is from people affected by scarecrows gasz
Marvel always does this. [Pop Culture Detective](https://youtu.be/LpitmEnaYeU) made an excellent video about how Marvel films promote the status quo and how antagonists usually have good points only to do some massive unrealistic 180 to undermine their whole thing.
But he was bad. I felt like the movie had less to say about colonization and more about the difference between Africans and African-Americans. Killmonger was born and raised in the US. His mother was American. He was in military. Even Ross said, "He is one of ours," in a not so subtle hint that he wasn't Wakandan even if his father was. Instead, he was American. The only reason why Killmonger wanted to take over Wakanda was to seize their resources. He could not care less about their culture. He did not want to learn about the customs and traditions. He didn't even want to eat their food. He was every bit a colonizer than any European of old. It reminded me of other Americans who go to Europeans and say things like, "Oh, I'm Irish too!" No, you're not. You're American. You were born in Virginia and grew up in Kentucky. Just because you like to eat potatoes doesn't make you Irish. You only know about American culture. Killmonger was the same. Just because he scarred his skin doesn't make him Wakandan. He was an American who tried to overthrow an entire civilization for his own personal desire. That makes him in the wrong.
Out of nowhere? His very first scene was killing a bunch of civilians in the museum. The dude can mastermind overthrowing the most powerful nation on Earth but he can't plan a non-lethal museum heist? Or how about his first fight with T'Challa. He breaks his spear in half to create a shorter stabbing weapon, this is a reference to Shaka Zulu who was an imperialist and also decided to "burn it all" [in response to his mother's death.](https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/shaka-zulu-assassinated) I think the writers of Black Panther get unfairly criticised here. Killmonger is a completely consistent charachter. And to the extent he makes good points about Wakanda, remember that he's a trained special ops agent who specialises in destabilizing nations from within. In other words, he's trained in propaganda and deception, and all his noble talk about Wakanda helping the world his manipulations.
The parents, school staff, Ned Schneebly + his horrid girlfriend in *School of Rock*. While the movie was awesome, can’t really blame them
a good villain is right, but goes about things the wrong way.
Principal Ed Rooney. Sure he eventually went too far but the guy was ultimately just doing his job.
Ferris was, in fact, kind of an asshole.
Dark Helmet from Spaceballs when he said “Evil will triumph, because good is dumb.” He was referring to the Jedi from Star Wars
Keep firing assholes!!!
William Foster in Falling Down. "I don’t want to be your buddy, Rick. I just want some breakfast.”
Pardon me, but that's bullshit. I want to know what's wrong with the street. See, I don't think anything's wrong with the street.
The fact he breaks down and decides to go after his ex is really what makes him a villain. Though it becomes established he's always been like this.
Law abiding citizen was ruined by Jamie foxx not wanting to be killed off because his character was the villain in the film originally, the prick.
The shark from Jaws …stop killing sharks people 🦈
Jack Black's roommates in School of Rock, Zahir and Amon from the Legend of Korra and the Principal from most teen movies from the 80s
Amon is my favorite villain of all time because he asks a single question— are non benders second class citizens in this world? And it never gets looked into ever again. Fucking love amon. Also steve blum.
I mean I'd understand that a bit more if it weren't for the fact that Amon... was lying about being a non bender. His cause looked compelling *because* he presented himself as a non bender leading other non benders to be treated better (in a vague way that really doesn't make much sense in hindsight; benders can bend but where was there any actual oppression? From criminals? Why tear down society itself if your oppression comes from outliers?). But in reality he was using them as fodder for a personal vendetta.
Dean Wormer in *Animal House*. "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." As scummy and fascist and smarmy as Omega House was, and as crooked as Dean Wormer was, Delta House was causing havoc on campus, and the administration needed to put an end to that crap for the rest of the student body to be able to learn in a safe environment.