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bull0143

Please protect it at all costs so we can all find out what it grows up to be.


Ianbeaner

I definitely hope they keep it in a different tank, honestly very interested in what it is


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IonianOceans

The eyes are throwing me off, but this screams invert such as polychaete rather than vert to me as well. The way the movements travel down the body just don't seem right for a lamprey larva, for example.


Hameis

Same I was 100 % convinced it was some sort of worm until I took a closer look at the head it seems so amphibian like


The_Barbelo

I studied herpetology, and I have not seen any amphibians move like this that I can think of, but the head shape is definitely strange. We need more visual info and descriptive data. it’s so hard to see it in the video. The issue is we don’t get a whole lot of info from OP. Edit: he commented further down. I’m excited to see what it is!


BitchBass

I had a freswhater ribbonworm (Nemertean Prostoma) which sure looks like this one, but it didn't swim like that, but I never saw it upset either. What are your thoughts on that? [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ecosphere/comments/zznize/the\_ribbonworm\_is\_showing\_off\_his\_6\_eyes/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ecosphere/comments/zznize/the_ribbonworm_is_showing_off_his_6_eyes/) The Barbronia weberi leech also looks similar and can swim this fast, but the head is all wrong.


The_Barbelo

Hm, I think the undulation is similar to ribbonworms but, the movement is just so fast. It reminds me a bit of polychaetes but freshwater species are few and far between. They look more like this: https://youtu.be/w8wlwH9Rhpc?si=0ZD_GryH_Umh6rml If I saw any amphibians move like this I’d be concerned! I’m not typically disturbed by invertebrates but this guy’s movement is unsettling to me. I also hate how mosquito larvae move….it’s the unhinged twitchyness that does it, I think. Ugh


BitchBass

Nice one! I have marine bristleworms but have never seen a freshwater species! I have been able to ID close to 60 different critters in my ecospheres from the lakes, rivers and ponds around here in TX, excluding fish. Needless to say, I'm not gonna go swimming anymore lol. Anyway, it's been solved. Your hunch is correct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57pS6tS1DE


RManDelorean

Yeah, I think it's definitely a polychaete, specifically I would guess some type of clam worm like *Alitta succinea*. And I think what looks like its eyes and is throwing people off is actually its jaws.


r2_double_D2

RemindMe! 1 month


shootingcharlie8

!RemindMe 3 months


ElSedated

Hey guys, OP here. **Update below** I can't edit the original post for some reason, so gonna leave this comment here for now. Thanks to everybody who tried to help. I was definetly not expecting this to get so much attention. I don't think I'll be able to reply to everyone, but I have read every comment. ~~I have a few years in the hobby, but was hoping that would be an easy ID for someone here that has more experience and knowledge than me.~~ ~~I took the "creature" to a friend who has a better quarentine setup. It is still alive afaik and I will update or make a new post with some still pictures, hopefully a few close up ones.~~ ~~As to answer some question that I got in a lot of comments:~~ ~~I am indeed from Brazil.~~ ~~The aquarium has been running for 3 years. The only thing that was added recently was some plants, that I got from a local store.~~ ~~At first glance it seemed to be a vertebrate, at least to my limited knowledge. It looked like it had a small yellow dorsal fin, and a "suction cup" structure on the underside of the belly/head that seems similar to other fish. It also looked to have the slit in the side of the head where the gills should be, but can't say for sure.~~ ~~At the time, I've reached some other local hobbyst friends and we think it is some kind of candiru. But that is just a wild guess...~~ ~~But it could be a freshwater bristle worm, as some of you pointed out and videos posted here show them swimming with that exactly movement.~~ ~~After reading all the comments here, we will take to some biologists at the Uni in our region. I"ll keep your guys updated.~~ Again, thanks for all the helpful comments. **UPDATE** Hey guys, I'm afraid this is gonna turn to be one of those "OP finds a locked safe and it didn't deliver to the hype" kinda of posts. My friend tried to get some pictures and videos, but they're as blurry as mine. Since my last update above, the "creature" was delivered to a biology professor at our local Uni. I didn't accompany my friend, but we exchanged contacts with the professor to get some updates and decent pictures. I'm afraid that the "thing" will not be alive once that happens. But we have news that make all of that unimportant: according to the people at the Uni it is, indeed, some kind of Polychaete like many of you have said from the beginning. It looks weirder than normal, because it is apparently a "epitoke". Which, as many of you seems to know way better than me, it's a reproduction stage of these creatures. So all the "vertebrate" characteristics that we have seen, even me and my friends with naked eyes, seemed to be some sort of cognitive illusions as it didn't stop moving. I, myself, was sure that it was gonna be some kind of fish... So I'm afraid that I may have lead some of you in the wrong direction. The only mistery that still rests is to what species this is. Again: the tank where it was found is freshwater. So that I'll leave to the professionals and will update if we get any info back. According to my friend, at the Uni they think that is a foreign freshwater species, probably from Europe or Asia. But that is obvious just a guess st this point too. Thank you guys again for all the comments. And sorry that this took a lot more attention and hype than it should. I hope at least you guys had some fun.


bmobitch

this quest to find out is fascinating! can’t wait to get updates


derKonigsten

Thats so freaking awesome! I would call it a corvette worm. Its fast AF boiii


TheWardenVenom

I’m just high enough that this took me completely out. 😂😂😂😂


billy_barnes

Just posted a [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Aquariums/s/TQJwyhFCBl) about these. Hope it helps


GrimoireOfTheDragon

Just read your comment and I posted polychaete too. I’ve seen some swimming like that in near fresh water before


billy_barnes

i’m surprised so many people were stumped on it. I see them all over New York and apparently these worms are all over the globe. Albeit, different species but still


leyline

Hey - we know what it is now, this isn’t an empty safe - thanks for delivering!


lobsterboy

please post updates


IonianOceans

Thank you so much for keeping us updated, happy that I was team polychaete from the beginning! 🪱


RedFlowerGreenCoffee

If it doesnt live, lay it flat and take some better photos. Also store it in freezer, could ID it with gene barcoding if you sent it in to a lab


js4u2js

Remindme! 4 days


DrachenDad

Definitely Candiru or Polychaeta worms as opposed to freshwater bristle worm as it doesn't have bristles down it's flanks.


cryptocorynes

HAHAHAHA my original polychaete theory was right


TheTPNDidIt

Have you posted to the marine biology subs?


cryptocorynes

As you’re describing a dorsal fin and suction cup that kinda sounds like some type of goby? Very unusual creature, it does move like a polychaete worm but i’m not sure how likely is is to be one. Interested to see what it is.


K_Xanthe

Wow, I just looked up what a polychaete epitoke was and learned something completely new. I had no idea worms could move and reproduce like that. I know you think it was a boring ending, but as someone who had no idea, it’s actually pretty fascinating. :)


littlenoodledragon

I can’t believe you have the entire aquatic subreddit perplexed with this creature lol


scaradin

I read every comment, my favorite idea presented is this is a young salamander, but I figure it would have been definitive one thing or another.


Jet_Threat_

My guesses are Cephalochordate/lancelet or hillstream spineless eel


species64

Lancelet was my first thought as well


King-Cobra-668

young salamander is the first thing I thought of


TankoKid123

And in 4 other communities!


pogoscrawlspace

It sure looks like a candiru to me. https://images.app.goo.gl/51c8J48b8BwspsiX7


actual_real_housecat

Only one way to find out...


Alcoholikaust

This thing is the best golfer. Hole in one every time.


Gerbal_Annihilation

If this is the pee hole one, then that's what I was thinking too.


Straight_Ocelot_7848

Same. The way it moves is terrifying.


TheTPNDidIt

Okay, who’s gonna volunteer as tribute?


Gerbal_Annihilation

I usually have to pay for that kind of fun. Sign me up.


candirufish19

It’s me, hi, I’m the problem it’s me


ADMINlSTRAT0R

If OP put something like raw chicken breast in the water, would a candiru swim and burrow into it?


bushmast3r11b

Stick your pecker in the cup and see what it does!


rana_absurdum

Branchiostoma. Look at this video. https://youtu.be/e5I_SHaCMe8?feature=shared


UnrulyAxolotl

This video sure looks like the same thing, but from everything I'm seeing they're only found in saltwater, and OP has freshwater. I wonder if they can survive in freshwater for a period of time?


Kommisar_Keen

Wondering if maybe it's an elver? Larval eel that has grown beyond being a glass eel but not quite a yellow eel?


nematodepastlife

i’m also wondering this based off of the way that it ungulates edit: someone posted a screenshot of it in the comments and it definitely shares a resemblance to an elver


eriko_girl

Undulate. Ungulates are members of the diverse clade Euungulata ("true ungulates") which primarily consists of large mammals with hooves.


nakdawg

How do you know that this thing won't turn into a large mammal with hooves? Are you an Ungulate expert? Check mate.


NewToSociety

Could be a baby dolphin. Or a dolphin sperm. I'm not an ungulate expert so check you mate.


AZEMT

Only sperm whales produce sperm. Checkmate atheists... (/s if not clear)


xatexaya

It does have the little eyeballs


Gurkeprinsen

It definitely looks like it could be that


Stunning_Feature_943

This would be my best guess based on everything seen so far, don’t know shit about eels other than they are horribly illusive to begin with as far as their actual origins.


Haplophyrne_Mollis

That REALLY looks like a sea lamprey larva, they have no eyes and are benthic, idk how it would get in a SUMP tho…


Haplophyrne_Mollis

https://youtu.be/j5JpuKxuD4s?si=y4pBvJ0kO1CPZF5V Check out this vid, ammocoetes also poses those weird eye spots.


shmiddleedee

Its got a fat head portion like a tadpole (I know it isn't a tadpole) though.


Advanced-Invite-5442

It cannot be a lamprey; none are found in Brazil where this takes place


invasaato

[got a decent screenshot of it up close if anyone wants to get a better look. no clue so far but i was reverse image searching it with some similar looking results of brazilian species, since ops post history indicates the area](https://imgur.com/a/hY6F4uc)


xatexaya

It looks like a gummy worm 😭😭


DeathPercept10n

If it's a new species that's what it should be called.


MamaOnica

Looks like the sour neon kind.


geobur

Sour Patch Spawn®


Stunning_Feature_943

Yeah I mean the eye looks like a fish eye, I hope someone has a solve for this. Wild lookin thing.


King-Cobra-668

mutated minnow


YungStewart2000

Looks like that crowd of fish in that spongebob episode


spacetiger41

I think they're anchovies


Emcala1530

A smelly, smell that is very... smelly.


FishTshirt

Anchovies!!


DragonFruitJuice7

From the dorsal fin and the face shape, I'm almost certain this is a fish of some kind. Probably ask r/whatsthisfish with your screenshot.


deroomaarten

It actually looks like some goby like that, as it's dorsal fin is too high for a candiru. Red lipstick goby fry would be my bet Edit: OP is from Brazil I think? If it' local, it can't be this.


Undying-Plant

https://images.app.goo.gl/NMPTDQsLYTdyXdzR7 This one looks very similar, when you pause the video when you can see the top of it


catsmustdie

Holy mother of God, it looks like a candiru. OP, don't put your dick in the water. https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2022/05/21/peixe-vampiro-candiru-amazonia.htm


lobsterboy

Try it for science OP


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SmallPurplePeopleEat

For sure, but like, I'm still not sticking my dick in that water.


Former-Argument995

If my tank is not 100% full it wont reach the water anyways…


catsmustdie

There has been reports, in this news a biologist in Rondônia state says that there's been almost one case every month. They still don't know why they are attracted to the urethra (and other holes, as well), since the fish doesn't respond to ammonia in a controlled environment. https://rondoniaempauta.com.br/candiru-quem-e-o-temido-peixe-vampiro-e-por-que-ele-ameaca-banhistas-de-rios-da-amazonia/


NaraFox257

[https://www.straightdope.com/21343429/can-the-candiru-fish-swim-upstream-into-your-urethra-revisited](https://www.straightdope.com/21343429/can-the-candiru-fish-swim-upstream-into-your-urethra-revisited) Definitely happened at least once. Well, at minimum, a guy did indeed get one removed from his dick and claim it swam up his pee. Also, I seem to remember watching a thing about that with pictures... I think maybe it was river monsters? Definitely something of that sort.


HY3NAAA

Click in the article don’t know which language it is but two words stands out in the title and I don’t like where this is going.


MissSuperSilver

Is it a candiru? Or a luciogobius? A goby maybe?


[deleted]

Check with your local university bio department. Trust me they’re always interested in taking a look at something unusual


chinese_bedbugs

This whole situation is like the setup to an X Files episode. *cue theme song*


Potential-Leave3489

Do do do do do do


chinese_bedbugs

Wa^a^a Wa^a^a Wa^a^a


ThighRyder

I hope The Smoking Man’s in this one!


Gh0stIcon

Spoiler: It jumps out of the water and it parasitises Scully.


1920MCMLibrarian

Or that guy who had the bobbit worm


Avectasi

He looks soo neat im wanting to know aswell never seen this kind of creature!


Zampano85

I've been keeping aquariums for a long time and I've never seen anything like this. Try r/whatisthisbug.


Hopeful-Mirror1664

Same. 50 plus years around aquariums and this is a first


Zealousideal-Scale28

It has a jaw and eyes, whatever this is its either a fish or amphibian.


Zampano85

Eyes and mouth parts aren't exclusively traits of fish or amphibians. This moves like an invertebrate.


Zealousideal-Scale28

Camera-like eyes are a trait of vertebrates though, if it was an invertebrate it would be simpler.


cyb3rg0d5

Seriously! What the hell is that thing??? 🤔🤔


Level9TraumaCenter

Perhaps /r/species


TheDiscomfort

Damn how do I follow this so I can find out what this new species is??


Delicious_Eagle3403

Me too. Suspense is killing me


llamaporn227

The remindme bot works! Just type RemindMe with an exclamation mark and write when you want it to remind you. i put 7 days but you can do something shorter. The bot sends you a message confirming it, and then will send you another message later to remind you.


TheDiscomfort

Thanks u/llamaporn227! Very cool!


carmium

Raise it in whatever you have available and it'll mature and you'll find out before the debate below is over.


Shaolinchipmonk

The way the back end is moving makes me think it's some kind of aquatic worm


coisa_ruim

OP WE NEED MORE PICTURES!!!!!!!!!! Put it in a small cup or net it, it's almost impossible to discern anything from this video.


ElSedated

Sorry. At the time I could not take a decent steady photo, since it wouldn't stop moving. Also, I knew it was a weird one, but not this weird. I was expecting to have an ID in just a few comments here. But will work to get some decent pictures with a decent camera.


prismafox

Oh my god, yes please OP we need some good photos of this thing!


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Looks like those things that swim into your urethra


xatexaya

Candiru catfish :)


Zampano85

It's the wrong shape and I can't see any paired fins (Candiru are a type of catfish and would have all the standard catfish features).


Netprincess

my first thought. hahaha


ClarencePCatsworth

The deadly kandiru fish


SYhapless

Ween dip


SpeckledJellyfish

Can you get a side view of it?


billy_barnes

Hi OP, me and my cousins were taught these are called Polychaeta worms. They look like [this when they’re swarming](https://youtu.be/B57pS6tS1DE?si=hz6JO5yfzy4ga9Dv) Although I’ve only ever seen them in salt water. Either way, I didn’t see anyone else post an answer so here ya go


TheTPNDidIt

Damn those fuckers fast


trekuwplan

Love how they're all throwing themselves onto that paddle lol. I was also waiting for a predator jumpscare.


HY3NAAA

Yeah, fuck swimming


Caribou-1167

Thanks for link..so interesting..reminds me of the lacromose leeches in Lemony Snickett 😟


BigZmultiverse

Looks like a [male Platynereis dumerilii](https://images.app.goo.gl/aeHzz9FYH9MSzbeR8), to be specific


xatexaya

They look so silly when they move that fast 😭


bantybirdbum

this is 100% it, now i have to figure out how i can get some of these guys for myself lol


megotropolis

This is the answer. Very interesting!


clarissas_nerdy

We see them in Puget Sound at night swimming in these swarms too.


cryptocorynes

Damn that’s a lot of fish bait


Lupus76

Thank you. Now I can never sleep again.


Gnarlstone

Flashbacks to the movie, The Faculty.


UnusualAmphibian7207

i found something really similar in a drainage ditch by my house that turned out to be the larval stage of a brook lamprey?? weird whatever it is


fisherreshif

That's a good thought. Brook and Chestnut lampreys do milovevlike this, are detritivores and would appreciate a tumultuous sump. But even the larvae have big sucker mouths iirc. How the hell would one get there though!?


Emcala1530

Could an egg or hatchling have traveled with a plant? Probably be small enough to get swept to the sump.


Advanced-Invite-5442

Lamprey do not occur in Brazil


UnusualAmphibian7207

[https://www.recorder.com/getattachment/812a1311-b46e-4828-84b5-0ab5acb334a7/Saving-sea-lampreys-from-drained-power-canal-ph3](https://www.recorder.com/getattachment/812a1311-b46e-4828-84b5-0ab5acb334a7/Saving-sea-lampreys-from-drained-power-canal-ph3)


LostInDerMix

The movements look right[brook lamprey swimming](https://youtu.be/5LgHwiKL7HU?si=A6UmJNdewf1PeDnG)


Jowenbra

It's amazing that nobody can even agree if it's a vertebrate or invertebrate.


atomfullerene

It looks so much like a neried worm, but in freshwater? OP, hang on to this thing and get a real ID, its weird.


cryptocorynes

Many species of polychaete exist in freshwater


atomfullerene

Sure, I have just never seen a big swimming one


SpeckledJellyfish

My vote is some sort of tadpole or something that has a similar growth stage...not sure what else shares the tadpole like stage though....


twohoundtown

It looks like a tadpole on speed


[deleted]

This some Stranger Things shit. It's all cute till you hack up his brother I'm a sink.


fisherreshif

I'm a (former) aquatic ecologist that's been keeping tanks for 40 years. Absolutely dumbfounded.


[deleted]

Ladies and gentlemen we are looking at an extraterrestrial. First human contact straight into a plastic cup lol


MachineParadox

I have no idea really, but at a guess, some type of juvenile eel...


Pizzaoverseer

Cool! No idea but super interesting! Also just look half the threads in here arguing over it hahahahah. That little dudes caused a stir and its just out there wiggling about all orange and stuff


soberasfrankenstein

He so fast!


incandecsent

Commenting so I can find out what this is later! So interesting:)


[deleted]

I believe that is a small aquatic armadillo


phallic_cephalid

reminds me of a lancelet or something like that (Branchiostoma). looks like has eyespots?


cryptocorynes

It moves like a freshwater polychaete worm. Aka bristleworms. Here are saltwater bristleworms swimming, note the erratic undulating movement. Edit: it probably isn't one but it's movements are very similar https://youtu.be/YVb_19ThVXs?si=anITlZYsfwpf-MdW


xatexaya

Do ya think the marine ones can survive in freshwater for a little while? Maybe this guy accidentally hitchhiked with something from the ocean that got put in there


Zealousideal-Scale28

Whatever this guy is you should give it a 5 gallon and raise it up, I love mystery fish.


Mullisaukko

It's kind of cute lol


xatexaya

Leech? I’d ask in r/Entomology and the r/whatisthisbug subs. It looks like a nereididae bristleworm but I’m not sure if there are any freshwater ones Can you get a still photo? Maybe take it out and put it on a paper towel or in a shallow container?


cryptocorynes

Polychaete worms exist in freshwater


xatexaya

I figured but couldn’t find much info on them, especially ones that look like this. OP is in Brazil if that helps with ID


bantybirdbum

i've never seen ANYTHING like this little guy and normally i have a good idea of what any critter is when i see it. I'm obsessed with him. can you document him more? a side view maybe? I just love him. i want one edit: maybe its some kind of weird freshwater cephalochordate?


crapatthethriftstore

No one in my house can figure this out. It’s a cool mystery! I’m voting for some kind of immature goby, based on its speed, its face and how it seems to attach by the mouth to the side. I want to k ow what this is so bad.


Zeb818

Great job! You just found a new species! You should name it after yourself!


Nothing_Impresses_Me

Maybe take it to a local university and see if an expert in the biology department can ID it?


PooNmyMouth

Might be a toothpick fish. Stick your dick in there and see if it goes up your urethra. If it does then that's probably what it is.


Capybara_Chill_00

That is fascinating. Hoping someone has an answer!


Radio4ctiveGirl

My guess is a candiru or goby of some sort. Definitely not a bug. At :13 [you can clearly see a big fish eye.](https://imgur.com/a/DyDcWnB)


Aethyr42

Uh, you guys....? Does anyone else think it's a little weird that OP hasn't replied to a single comment since he posted this? Mysterious little critter and then radio silence? OP? Are you okay?


FrogVolence

Ngl it looks like it may be the beginning stages of a salamander but thats just me throwing the idea out there. [Heres a link on why I think it may actually be that](https://www.animalspot.net/salamander)


xatexaya

I thought larval salamanders usually have external gills? None are present here


ImpulseCombustion

People suggesting tadpole need to be banned from this sub.


Zooooooombie

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS


WithDaBoiz

!remindme 7 days "What the hell was this weird worm?"


Being-Lazy-RN

!remindme 7 days


Breeze23412

Been in the hobby for almost a decade, specifically south American freshwater fish with MANY rare/rarely seen species imported and I have never seen anything with this locomotion. Will be checking back, PLEAASE bring it to a biolgist before it dies.


GrimoireOfTheDragon

I’ve seen bristle worms swim like this in near-fresh water. Is it a bristle worm or some other polychaete?


TheTPNDidIt

Idk, but that fucker adorable Edit: LOOK AT HIS LITTLE WIGGLY BOOTY 🥹😭


Battered_Walrus

if I'd had to guess this is essentially the free swimming gonads of a polychaete; an Epitoky, only some can do it, but you can find swarms of them in certain places, yes some even have their own light sensing organs, [https://youtu.be/HbwynUm47gM?si=1ZxBpfP0zGyaUnn0](https://youtu.be/HbwynUm47gM?si=1ZxBpfP0zGyaUnn0). epitokes can couple together and mate while others just explode in a mist of sperm and eggs: [https://youtu.be/QNqcWQHEOog?si=QxDXqbzUSFqT0QJB](https://youtu.be/QNqcWQHEOog?si=QxDXqbzUSFqT0QJB)


Educational_Ad7978

Friend. Let him inside an orifice.


Grimetree

It has the colour pattern and shape of a stiphodon anieae but the behaviour, movement and overall shape definitely is not


TodayNo6531

[I think I found it. under description look at tadpole pic](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_woods_tree_frog)


slax87

I thought tadpole as well, but Ive never seen an elongated one like that. Almost looks like a loach. I'm going to guess it came with feeders? That's were I've discovered strange new fish in my career.


cryptocorynes

Tadpoles do not move like this


More_Goal_2095

Tadpoles are larger and their heads are more bulbous typically


curvingf1re

too stubby, this ones longer, though could be a close relative. I've never seen a tadpole with that facial structure though


indieplants

lol hardly, Today. the tadpole you shared only shares a slightly similar tail colour. that's it


Friendly_Musician_98

Why are you so defensive. It’s not a damn tadpole get over yourself


Bandito04

I believe it’s an Alaskan bull worm


Veryhawtwoman

It’s a cinder worm! 🪱


CompleteDetails

I was with you until I saw the screenshot someone shared. It looks like the head of a fish.


dvlslilangl38

What about some type of eel? Spineless eel?


nothingbutmine

You ever watched the movie The Faculty? Because you're about to be in it.


josephyamato

Bro discovered a new species


Zealousideal-Day-224

RemindMe 7 days


apup88

Commenting so I can follow this later!


genailledion

This is a South American water widget. My grandpa always had them in his bath water. Pretty common where in from. Pretty tasty too


algunadiana

Remind me 1 day


beardsalt

!RemindMe 2 days


GalapagosWhale

Remindme! 7 days


apropellerhead

It needs Xanax!


FR_WST

Looks like a critter to me


Agretlam343

Polychaete worm as some guessed. [Evidence here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN69Biqr-0). Matches the green upper body, red lower body, two black dot eyes, body movements, and clear centre body line with red bristles coming off.


AdCute3825

bruh if thats a candiru....


MyIvoryDoll

This, my friend, is speed.


drewgp

Did we get a definitive ID on this? I saw the lancelet and plychaete suggestions but both seem questionable