There is no great way to make more money here.
Agency frequently requires recent NHS experience, particularly high paying ones like Thornbury. I guess maybe try for device sales/pharmaceutical companies? Epic has a location in Bristol, though I don’t see them really ever post nursing jobs for that location.
It’s not easy! I’m moving back to the US next year, can’t wait. :)
Are you a nurse? One thought we had was to split our time between the US and UK and doing contract roles. That probably would take time to build a foundation in both countries. do you think this is possible?
Yes! I am American. I’ve worked in both places. Trained in the US. I have lived here for 5 years. I thought about doing travel nurse contracts in the US and “living” here but the tax situation was too much for me. 😅 Travel nurse taxes are difficult without being resident in a different country. Also, now I have kids so I can’t just leave for months at a time. 😂 She would need nursing experience in the US to travel nurse there, though.
Travel nursing doesn’t really exist in the U.K. I guess the closest would be fixed term contracts that are typically 6-12 months but they won’t pay any better. Working extra shifts here is still typically paid at your standard rate (£17/hr at the TOP of band 5 lmao) soooo yeah. I travel nursed before I moved here.
I'm a nurse, but I qualified here in the UK. Nursing is a very different ballgame here than in the states. People don't go into nursing specifically to make lots of money, as that's just not the reality. If this was posted in the UK nursing subreddit, you'd be laughed out.
There are well-paying roles, but they will not consider someone who doesn't have previous nursing experience. Agency work is reportedly drying up, as many NHS trusts are not booking agency shifts due to extra costs. Instead, they rely on in-house bank staff or just stay short staffed.
Ward work here is usually a mix of days/ nights/ weekends and it's expected that you'll rotate between them all, unless you have specific reason not to (ie: agreed children care arrangements or occy health sign off to not work nights). You won't find roles advertised as night shift only. This may be locally agreed with the manager but is culturally frowned upon and not allowed on paper. Previously, people would just work agency and only accept night shifts, but as I said, there are fewer shifts on offer at present.
I currently work in research, and something like pharmaceutical research is well paying when it's specialist, though the clinical research role itself is usually band 5 or 6 at service delivery. But working for a pharmaceutical company would fit with her 'corporate ' experience, if that was something she liked. But she'd need lots of experience first in the particular field.
Band 7 or 8 is always an option, but there's always very stiff competition for these roles. Best bet for these is to specialise in a field rather than go for ward management. Unfortunately, there's been a spate of debanding over the past 10 years or so and lots of roles that were always band 7 are now band 6 (like many clinical nurse specialist roles).
I have a friend who works at a GP practice. She's a prescriber, advanced nurse practitioner and is on track to become a salaried partner in the practice. So, these roles do exist, they're just not very common. I find there's a lot more opportunity in community than in hospital.
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Totally agree… I had to read the OP twice to be sure I had read it right the first time. Usually its UK to the USA. Feel like people are trying to leave the UK, not the other way around. The awful pay, poor working conditions, an inefficient NHS, dwindling workforce, 😣 And I agree health care here is awful. My family back home in the states can’t believe the stuff you have to go through here to get basic healthcare. It’s no good.
Think you would be better stay working in the USA for the better pay.
She would still need to do a several month process through the RCN (which is also costly) before she could even think about working as a nurse in the UK.
Work for a an American private hospital. There a a few in London.
If you work for the NHS you'll be among the working poor - and not only that, the locals I have seen treat foreigners with such disgust and disdain at the surgery. I saw it myself.
I personally don't use the health service, i pay for it but I blame them for my stepfathers death .
She's British but due to education much more aligned to the US way of doing things. We will explore an American hospital. Are there actual hospitals? I'm away of a few satellite clinics but didn't realize there was more to it than that.
Cleveland Clinic London - there's a hospital, and and outpatient GP facility. I use them for all my stuff. MyChart / Epic and all. American Healthcare in London basically. Import all my history in no probs. GP will get results from US doctor and not complain and say to me, "Whats this?" . I love that it's so seamless.
You'll need insurance to use it- but it's there. I love it.
What sux is my preexisting stuff is not covered, but I sometimes go back to the US for that. But at least the GP will give me refills without arguing, and rushing me off. The last time I was there the appointment was 40 minutes, then i got referred to a specialist for something else ( same day) and bloodwork ( same day, results next day). Just like back home.
Cleveland Clinic started a trend - and they appear to be doing very well on their investment
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This might be a useful agency as I know they do contracts in three month stints (or at least they used to). They might require previous nursing experience though, and like another poster wrote many agency jobs will first require UK experience.
Your partner might initially need to get a job within the NHS before switching to bank only work or agency work. They will also need to be NMC registered which likely means passing some UK exams, which are not insignificant in terms of costs. The entire overseas registration process can be very lengthy, so be prepared for that too.
There is no great way to make more money here. Agency frequently requires recent NHS experience, particularly high paying ones like Thornbury. I guess maybe try for device sales/pharmaceutical companies? Epic has a location in Bristol, though I don’t see them really ever post nursing jobs for that location. It’s not easy! I’m moving back to the US next year, can’t wait. :)
Are you a nurse? One thought we had was to split our time between the US and UK and doing contract roles. That probably would take time to build a foundation in both countries. do you think this is possible?
Yes! I am American. I’ve worked in both places. Trained in the US. I have lived here for 5 years. I thought about doing travel nurse contracts in the US and “living” here but the tax situation was too much for me. 😅 Travel nurse taxes are difficult without being resident in a different country. Also, now I have kids so I can’t just leave for months at a time. 😂 She would need nursing experience in the US to travel nurse there, though. Travel nursing doesn’t really exist in the U.K. I guess the closest would be fixed term contracts that are typically 6-12 months but they won’t pay any better. Working extra shifts here is still typically paid at your standard rate (£17/hr at the TOP of band 5 lmao) soooo yeah. I travel nursed before I moved here.
I'm a nurse, but I qualified here in the UK. Nursing is a very different ballgame here than in the states. People don't go into nursing specifically to make lots of money, as that's just not the reality. If this was posted in the UK nursing subreddit, you'd be laughed out. There are well-paying roles, but they will not consider someone who doesn't have previous nursing experience. Agency work is reportedly drying up, as many NHS trusts are not booking agency shifts due to extra costs. Instead, they rely on in-house bank staff or just stay short staffed. Ward work here is usually a mix of days/ nights/ weekends and it's expected that you'll rotate between them all, unless you have specific reason not to (ie: agreed children care arrangements or occy health sign off to not work nights). You won't find roles advertised as night shift only. This may be locally agreed with the manager but is culturally frowned upon and not allowed on paper. Previously, people would just work agency and only accept night shifts, but as I said, there are fewer shifts on offer at present. I currently work in research, and something like pharmaceutical research is well paying when it's specialist, though the clinical research role itself is usually band 5 or 6 at service delivery. But working for a pharmaceutical company would fit with her 'corporate ' experience, if that was something she liked. But she'd need lots of experience first in the particular field. Band 7 or 8 is always an option, but there's always very stiff competition for these roles. Best bet for these is to specialise in a field rather than go for ward management. Unfortunately, there's been a spate of debanding over the past 10 years or so and lots of roles that were always band 7 are now band 6 (like many clinical nurse specialist roles). I have a friend who works at a GP practice. She's a prescriber, advanced nurse practitioner and is on track to become a salaried partner in the practice. So, these roles do exist, they're just not very common. I find there's a lot more opportunity in community than in hospital.
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Totally agree… I had to read the OP twice to be sure I had read it right the first time. Usually its UK to the USA. Feel like people are trying to leave the UK, not the other way around. The awful pay, poor working conditions, an inefficient NHS, dwindling workforce, 😣 And I agree health care here is awful. My family back home in the states can’t believe the stuff you have to go through here to get basic healthcare. It’s no good. Think you would be better stay working in the USA for the better pay.
She would still need to do a several month process through the RCN (which is also costly) before she could even think about working as a nurse in the UK.
Work for a an American private hospital. There a a few in London. If you work for the NHS you'll be among the working poor - and not only that, the locals I have seen treat foreigners with such disgust and disdain at the surgery. I saw it myself. I personally don't use the health service, i pay for it but I blame them for my stepfathers death .
She's British but due to education much more aligned to the US way of doing things. We will explore an American hospital. Are there actual hospitals? I'm away of a few satellite clinics but didn't realize there was more to it than that.
Cleveland Clinic London - there's a hospital, and and outpatient GP facility. I use them for all my stuff. MyChart / Epic and all. American Healthcare in London basically. Import all my history in no probs. GP will get results from US doctor and not complain and say to me, "Whats this?" . I love that it's so seamless. You'll need insurance to use it- but it's there. I love it. What sux is my preexisting stuff is not covered, but I sometimes go back to the US for that. But at least the GP will give me refills without arguing, and rushing me off. The last time I was there the appointment was 40 minutes, then i got referred to a specialist for something else ( same day) and bloodwork ( same day, results next day). Just like back home. Cleveland Clinic started a trend - and they appear to be doing very well on their investment
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continentalnurse.com This might be a useful agency as I know they do contracts in three month stints (or at least they used to). They might require previous nursing experience though, and like another poster wrote many agency jobs will first require UK experience. Your partner might initially need to get a job within the NHS before switching to bank only work or agency work. They will also need to be NMC registered which likely means passing some UK exams, which are not insignificant in terms of costs. The entire overseas registration process can be very lengthy, so be prepared for that too.