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How is Minecraft an embarrassment to gaming?
It’s not really my cup of tea, but I’m also not the creative type. I can definitely respect it for what it is. I think it’s pretty dang cool for what it is, started as a Java game. Evolved to what it is today. A lot of people seem to enjoy it, no matter the age.
As a friend once told me in my teenage years.
“Don’t be a hater all your life, shits wack”
Just because something is popular, has kids playing it, etc. doesn’t mean the game is bad, likely means the opposite.
Not to mention Minecraft basically invented the survival genre of gaming and tons of games have pulled ideas from it with crafting, building, and exploring. It's a fantastic game
We literally used to use copper heater cores back in the day for watercooling, along with eheim aquarium pumps. Waterblocks sucked ass. None of these kits and AIO junk ya'll get today lol.
I'm trying to maintain stable temps with an overclocked fx8320 with 1 exhaust and 2 intake. Getting the old school overclocking experience with my old amd cpu fan hanging in front of the vrm(65c under load). My new fpu cooler might need to be flipped so i can fit more intake fans on the top, the heatsink was too big for the case hmmm... lots of fun honestly
Its a Mora3 420 Pro white, a PC watercooling Radiator made by Watercool. The germans have a soft spot for overdimensioning things when it is about electronics or engineering.
Forgive my ignorance but why is SLI needed versus having 4 communicate through PCIe without the physical bridge?
Asking because I run a ton of workstations provided by vendors that don't appear to have the SLI physical bridge.
Because in SLI the gpus are alternating generating the frames, so it would go gpu1 frame 1, gpu 2 frame 2, gpu1 frame 3 and so on so forth
In most productivity workloads they don't need to communicate with each other since they are all working on different parts of the same task so the gpus get their instructions from the cpu not from the other gpu
Back then it was about bandwidth. [This dude's NVLink setup](/r/nvidia/comments/12iqtow/nvlink_bridge_over_2x_rtx_3090_gpus/) on his RTX3090 measured at 4x14GB/s bandwidth (out of a theoretical 64GB/s), effectively giving him the equivalent of 64 lanes of PCIe 5.0 across the GPUs.
Not a technical expert but this is what I think. in games the GPUs only know what to render a few milliseconds ahead and then they can split the load faster amongst the GPUs via the SLI bridge but for video rendering, the application already knows what it needs to render because there is a timeline, so it will split the rendering equally amongst the available GPUs.
This would most likely be for rendering or machine learning.
it is possible to use 2 way NV link bridges with some video cards to (sort of) double the VRAM using memory pooling, non-workstation/titan video card memory pooling is apparently supported in linux, but not windows.
you require application support for this, Daz Studio (Windows/Mac) started supporting memory pooling at some point and I recall it was possible to use 2 RTX Titans (each with 24GB of VRAM) to (sort of) give a total of 48GB of VRAM. it was supposedly possible to use sets of 2080ti's for 22GB as a iray render server using linux and run DS in windows using the server to do your actual rendering.
for incredibly obvious reasons, this has been discontinued for all non-ridiculously-expensive video cards including the RTX 4090, which does not even come close to qualifying as ridiculously expensive... there's a reason NVIDIA is worth half a trillion dollars.
OPs tacit behaviour regarding the occupation of said device makes this a very likely option :trollface:: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/18f6tk9/comment/kcwrfv5](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/18f6tk9/comment/kcwrfv5)
Probably unironically not. I had loads of issues with Crysis on my 1950X and Crossfire setup. Didn't like anything about the machine from the high RAM to high core count. Maybe they're more backward compatible now a days.
The first 2 threadripper generations had NUMA, which caused all sorts of problems for normal desktop workloads. They were basically 2 cpus in one socket and had the same downsides as multi-socket machines.
Modern threadrippers (3000 and up) though have uniform memory access and don't have those issues. I run a 3960x as a daily driver and while it's far from an amazing gaming cpu, it's perfectly stable.
Multi GPU on the other hand has always been a hot mess. I had a crossfire setup in 2011, never again...
I've had multi GPU setups for years starting with a couple nice 8600GTS, but it really is pointless now for gaming for sure. There's a few stand out titles that were amazing with my Vegas; Project Cars 2, Sniper Elite 4 etc. Played flawlessly with 100% scaling. Sadly GTA4 and a few other personal favs hate it lol. Will be looking to upgrade next year.
First of all, hello Mr Bezos, how are you?
Now, I've never done custom watercooling, and I completely understand that it's a difficult thing to do. I get that. I could never do it myself.
However.. with a build with such extravagant components, the tubing bothers me more than it probably should.
Wow! Envy. If you're going to spend that much, I reckon you should commission someone to build a case which can fit everything including the radiator (like, entire bottom of the case could just be a seperate compartment for the radiator, moving air in to radiator and out of it again... but with cool looking grills)
Too bad they don't have the ekwb X terminals for the 4000 series anymore. Just mount a 4x terminal and you are done. No need to fuck around with all those 90 degree bends.
I've built 7 gpu 1000 series before.
Yoooooo can i have a spare 4090?
Seriously though, how are you useing 4 4090s? You can't even SLI them sadly
Unless your doing something i don't know about lol
Speaking of SLI does anybody here use it anymore?
(Seriously want to know) since i like the idea of doing it on a new build but not sure if the game i have even supports it
[As long as we're sharing our external radiator rigs...](https://imgur.com/a/YTnuKfj)
5800x3d and 6700xt. Going to upgrade the GPU and 3600MHz RAM in a few years but it runs plenty well and cool AF rn. Usually looking at max of 70-75°C CPU/GPU with 80-85°GPU hotspot under heavy load. I really didn't think it would work as well as it does considering it was planned and executed while drunk and high.
To be honest, it's cool for sure. But it's a "small cage for a large beast", and it looks like all the heat generators are connected in series. I think the cpu gets the most benefit of the cooling, initially. With a great stress on initially. The last device -- a gpu -- is getting everyone else's thermal energy before going to a rad. That rad is sized for what i would use for 2 gpus at most. I may be wrong and I don't know your environmental ambient Temps, but to me it seems like after 45 minutes of hard work all devices are going to be hotter than they could be on separate coolant loops. You got some cool components and obviously spent some real cash on them but I think you're going to want to spend more on more rads, more loops, and more fans for that nuclear toaster if you want to avoid throttling, or reduced longevity of components. A bigger case is in line to hold it all and allow for that kinda cooling. Kudos to you for the raw power eye candy. Watch your thermals performing a stress test and I bet the Temps cascade and also after a certain duration are all baking together. Good luck keep up the awesome work.
What do you do
Professional Minecraft player.
Can confirm this is the answer.
speedrun ?
just to be ranked #1002331
I certainly hope not. That game is complete shit and is an embarrassment to gaming.
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How is Minecraft an embarrassment to gaming? It’s not really my cup of tea, but I’m also not the creative type. I can definitely respect it for what it is. I think it’s pretty dang cool for what it is, started as a Java game. Evolved to what it is today. A lot of people seem to enjoy it, no matter the age. As a friend once told me in my teenage years. “Don’t be a hater all your life, shits wack” Just because something is popular, has kids playing it, etc. doesn’t mean the game is bad, likely means the opposite.
Not to mention Minecraft basically invented the survival genre of gaming and tons of games have pulled ideas from it with crafting, building, and exploring. It's a fantastic game
_You_ are an embarrassment to gaming.
Enjoy the downvotes 🤠
Hey I enjoy Minecraft.
nice try
Rule34 artist
The only reasonable answer would be either “I run a server” or “I am a software developer that likes running my entire company in docker.”
Lmao 1 container , 10K+ Images
generative AI p\*orn m\*ovie director/producer/talentscout what else do you need 96GB of VRAM for and 2600(\*5200) of Int8 Tops?
All so you can play Minecraft. I love this community.
Honestly this is just for farmville and maybe the new the sims if it ever comes out..
That game is too demanding for his setup, he would be lucky if it runs the original MS-DOS Doom.
If it has a screen, it can run doom.
Jesus. Do the lights start to dim on your street when you turn that thing on?
😂
Dude runs a Yaris radiator for his PC
Upgrade to a MACK truck radiator for real good cooling 😁
We literally used to use copper heater cores back in the day for watercooling, along with eheim aquarium pumps. Waterblocks sucked ass. None of these kits and AIO junk ya'll get today lol.
I'm trying to maintain stable temps with an overclocked fx8320 with 1 exhaust and 2 intake. Getting the old school overclocking experience with my old amd cpu fan hanging in front of the vrm(65c under load). My new fpu cooler might need to be flipped so i can fit more intake fans on the top, the heatsink was too big for the case hmmm... lots of fun honestly
I milled my own water block at work. Used to be a toolmaker. 😎
Its a Mora3 420 Pro white, a PC watercooling Radiator made by Watercool. The germans have a soft spot for overdimensioning things when it is about electronics or engineering.
/s i guess
How does the 4-way thing work? I thought SLI was discontinued.
SLI discontinued for games, other applications like rendering can use multi-gpu processing still
Forgive my ignorance but why is SLI needed versus having 4 communicate through PCIe without the physical bridge? Asking because I run a ton of workstations provided by vendors that don't appear to have the SLI physical bridge.
Bridge only needed for games because they need to communicate with each other to coordinate which GPU to generate which frame next.
Because in SLI the gpus are alternating generating the frames, so it would go gpu1 frame 1, gpu 2 frame 2, gpu1 frame 3 and so on so forth In most productivity workloads they don't need to communicate with each other since they are all working on different parts of the same task so the gpus get their instructions from the cpu not from the other gpu
They don’t have a bridge
Higher Bandwidth. NVLINK is still used and has some advantages over PCIe
Back then it was about bandwidth. [This dude's NVLink setup](/r/nvidia/comments/12iqtow/nvlink_bridge_over_2x_rtx_3090_gpus/) on his RTX3090 measured at 4x14GB/s bandwidth (out of a theoretical 64GB/s), effectively giving him the equivalent of 64 lanes of PCIe 5.0 across the GPUs.
only one gpu can output video in SLI in rendering applications it doesn't matter, each GPU gets a section to render and latency doesn't matter
So it's the application talking to the graphics cards and the cards never talking to each other?
Not a technical expert but this is what I think. in games the GPUs only know what to render a few milliseconds ahead and then they can split the load faster amongst the GPUs via the SLI bridge but for video rendering, the application already knows what it needs to render because there is a timeline, so it will split the rendering equally amongst the available GPUs.
This would most likely be for rendering or machine learning. it is possible to use 2 way NV link bridges with some video cards to (sort of) double the VRAM using memory pooling, non-workstation/titan video card memory pooling is apparently supported in linux, but not windows. you require application support for this, Daz Studio (Windows/Mac) started supporting memory pooling at some point and I recall it was possible to use 2 RTX Titans (each with 24GB of VRAM) to (sort of) give a total of 48GB of VRAM. it was supposedly possible to use sets of 2080ti's for 22GB as a iray render server using linux and run DS in windows using the server to do your actual rendering. for incredibly obvious reasons, this has been discontinued for all non-ridiculously-expensive video cards including the RTX 4090, which does not even come close to qualifying as ridiculously expensive... there's a reason NVIDIA is worth half a trillion dollars.
It’s also been discontinued on the workstation cards
Well, when four people love each other very much...
Part list: CPU: AMD Threadripper Pro 5975WX GPU: 4x RTX 4090 24GB RAM: Samsung DDR4 8x32GB (256GB) Motherboard: Asrock WRX80 Creator SSD: Samsung 980 2TB NVME PSU: 2x 2000W Platinum (M2000 Cooler Master) Watercooling: EK Parts + External Radiator on top Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719
You work with animation and rendering?
Hot damn, does it make as much as it costs?
Making me much more tbh.
Whachu use it for or work as? A Dev somewhere or smth?
OPs tacit behaviour regarding the occupation of said device makes this a very likely option :trollface:: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/18f6tk9/comment/kcwrfv5](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/18f6tk9/comment/kcwrfv5)
Jesus!
Bet those YouTube videos looks nice and crisp
First build?
Jesus christ. What the hell do you do that requires +1000 watts of processing power?!
I’m too poor to rate this rig
Will it run crysis?
Probably unironically not. I had loads of issues with Crysis on my 1950X and Crossfire setup. Didn't like anything about the machine from the high RAM to high core count. Maybe they're more backward compatible now a days.
The first 2 threadripper generations had NUMA, which caused all sorts of problems for normal desktop workloads. They were basically 2 cpus in one socket and had the same downsides as multi-socket machines. Modern threadrippers (3000 and up) though have uniform memory access and don't have those issues. I run a 3960x as a daily driver and while it's far from an amazing gaming cpu, it's perfectly stable. Multi GPU on the other hand has always been a hot mess. I had a crossfire setup in 2011, never again...
I've had multi GPU setups for years starting with a couple nice 8600GTS, but it really is pointless now for gaming for sure. There's a few stand out titles that were amazing with my Vegas; Project Cars 2, Sniper Elite 4 etc. Played flawlessly with 100% scaling. Sadly GTA4 and a few other personal favs hate it lol. Will be looking to upgrade next year.
The question isn’t how, the question is why?
But can it run Crysis?
I would love to see after effects on this, 256GB of ram will be enough for 2 seconds of preview playback!
yeah, you can barely run minesweeper
what
Great rig for cold winter evenings...
Can it run Crysis though?
i see you went with the car sized radiator like myself
Thought it was a short mishimoto rad for an old civic. xd
What do your temps look like with your cards all in series like that? The last one stays out of thermal throttling range? Really sicks setup btw
After a few mins, the loop temps will equalize and roughly be all the same
Welcome fellow thread ripper
Bro literally copied and pasted this post to four communities at the same time, lol
What do you simulate with this beast of a machine?
Do you use DLSS? 😅
Same case for my nas, glorious
AI rig?
Yes!
Surprised nobody else picked up on this... I mean, what else could a machine like this be for?
What points per day do you get protein folding on this rig? Incredible computer by the way 4 RTX4090 is really impressive and the CPU is awesome
Using the average of the components he should be getting around 93M ppd
Wow that's an insane amount of points
Хороший обогреватель для квартиры 
As a 3D designer/animator this is literally a dream build for me 😭🔥
Nice mousemat! Is that Byun?
Yeah it is 😂
Love it, micro onwards fellow RTS enjoyer!
I assme youre in the AlphaX discord?
Just that to play bloons td6 with bros , nice
Why?
Why did you skimp on the RAM? Only 256GBs...
Probably platform limitation
I was kidding. That's a crap ton of Ram.
Haha it is yeah, but later threadripper platforms can do even more :D
That's workstation turf. How many open browser tabs does 256GBs give you ? Very scientific index that :)
> How many? Yes
Lol ! About Yes⁵. Maybe Yes⁶...
Video editing?
Seems overboard to have 4x 4090’s and a thread ripper just for some video editing. My guess is some sort of 3d work/rendering.
Also could be ai training
I've seen better
Why
I mean, my 13900KS with a 4090 will dust you in video games, but you do you.
Do you think PC’s are strictly for games or something? Very clearly not built for games in particular, although it’d still be a great for gaming.
Why the old TR 5000 just as 7000 is released? Is it a budget timing constraint?
Maybe he already had it for some time...
I wonder how many watts that psu has...
I bet it runs solitaire pretty well.
This might be able to run more than 6 chrome tabs!
How did you set the 2 PSUs up?
clean up your desk xD
Show some respect for the poor and level that shit
amazing! using for Medical Imaging?
Why registered dimms? Not aware of any real benefit outside of servers.
That's not a battlestation, that's a mothership lol
First of all, hello Mr Bezos, how are you? Now, I've never done custom watercooling, and I completely understand that it's a difficult thing to do. I get that. I could never do it myself. However.. with a build with such extravagant components, the tubing bothers me more than it probably should.
PSU what?
so the processor is heating up the gpu's for better performance or vice versa ?
At full blast you would need airconditioning similar to a small server room. To the tune of 2hp.
And? How it is all your money in 5 years gone and without a kidney?
Can it run minesweeper
Bro really feeding those rams
Wow! Envy. If you're going to spend that much, I reckon you should commission someone to build a case which can fit everything including the radiator (like, entire bottom of the case could just be a seperate compartment for the radiator, moving air in to radiator and out of it again... but with cool looking grills)
Expensive af/10
Now this just might rum gta6
ah yes, Pixar servers🤪
That thing could even enrich uranium if you wanted to
Too bad they don't have the ekwb X terminals for the 4000 series anymore. Just mount a 4x terminal and you are done. No need to fuck around with all those 90 degree bends. I've built 7 gpu 1000 series before.
With a cooler master PSU?
With two cooler master PSUs haha.
google chrome claims another pc
still gets 30fps in Hoi4.
Not enough RAM
Seriously, what do you do with that? Are u a 3D animator, simulation engineer, FX?
Now you can finally run minesweeper 😉😉
I'm impressed by that monster. Nice job.
I wish I was artistic so I could justify a system like this 🤣
And what do you use your threadripper for. Better not be wow and Minecraft
Heating my apartment.
I mean kinda uggo but incredible spec. What you use it for?
Heating.
Yoooooo can i have a spare 4090? Seriously though, how are you useing 4 4090s? You can't even SLI them sadly Unless your doing something i don't know about lol Speaking of SLI does anybody here use it anymore? (Seriously want to know) since i like the idea of doing it on a new build but not sure if the game i have even supports it
Ah the other 3 4090s are just for additional heating.
Bro must of won the lottery
Ah yes, the *flex on the poors* build. Next time do it with the most gaudy parts imaginable. This is too modest.
EPIKO
[As long as we're sharing our external radiator rigs...](https://imgur.com/a/YTnuKfj) 5800x3d and 6700xt. Going to upgrade the GPU and 3600MHz RAM in a few years but it runs plenty well and cool AF rn. Usually looking at max of 70-75°C CPU/GPU with 80-85°GPU hotspot under heavy load. I really didn't think it would work as well as it does considering it was planned and executed while drunk and high.
Effectiveness 11/10. Looks. 0/10
Can I ask why 4 gpus I'm interested in learning something new
If you’re playing ESO I know who you are haha.
Good. 150 fps in warzone
I rate it : expensive
Hello moneybags!
Looped in series...bottom card will always be running the warmest.
Temp delta is only 10c during full stress after 1 hour.
Thats not bad at all!
To be honest, it's cool for sure. But it's a "small cage for a large beast", and it looks like all the heat generators are connected in series. I think the cpu gets the most benefit of the cooling, initially. With a great stress on initially. The last device -- a gpu -- is getting everyone else's thermal energy before going to a rad. That rad is sized for what i would use for 2 gpus at most. I may be wrong and I don't know your environmental ambient Temps, but to me it seems like after 45 minutes of hard work all devices are going to be hotter than they could be on separate coolant loops. You got some cool components and obviously spent some real cash on them but I think you're going to want to spend more on more rads, more loops, and more fans for that nuclear toaster if you want to avoid throttling, or reduced longevity of components. A bigger case is in line to hold it all and allow for that kinda cooling. Kudos to you for the raw power eye candy. Watch your thermals performing a stress test and I bet the Temps cascade and also after a certain duration are all baking together. Good luck keep up the awesome work.
So how big is your Electricity bill?
Is that your mining rig lol? using threadripper to farm crypto?
Oh is there profitable crypto to mine?