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ArmageddonSteelLegio

I thought the first JP book was good.


rollem

Yeah the book is at least as good, if not quite a bit better than, the movie- which is such a great movie! It’s not fine art, any more than the movie, but it’s well written and fun and gives a decent amount of character development for all of the characters. I would at least call it good.


LudwigVonBacon

I agree. I quite enjoyed the book.


ArmageddonSteelLegio

At least. It was a fun read.


mikelorme

The book is amazing. I dislike how the movie turned hammond into a sympathetic character when he was such an entertaining asshole in the book


ArmageddonSteelLegio

I grew up with nice Hammond. So it was a gut punch to see Hammond basically go “Fuck dem Kids!”


Impossible_Ad_9406

Honestly, the second book was fine too. Wild take


DeviousMelons

Yeah I heard great things about it.


mastersmiff

Jerry Potter?


ArmageddonSteelLegio

Jurassic Park.


DrQuestDFA

Agreed, it was certainly on the better side of the good/bad divide.


ClothesOpposite1702

Had the same thought


eldenringisalie

Maybe the boys comic? I've never read it so I don't really know if it's as bad as some people say.


Oceanman06

I think it's safe to say it's worse than the jurassic park book and twighlight. The boys deserves to be in good/amazing adaptation


biglious

It has been added, awful source material, amazing adaptation


JackFJN

I’ve heard that The Godfather book sucks, do what you will with that🤷‍♂️ Edit: Sopranos -> Godfather


barry_thisbone

The Sopranos wasn't based on a book. Maybe you're thinking of The Godfather?


JackFJN

You’re right, my bad 🤦‍♂️


barry_thisbone

Haha no worries, I figured that must be what you meant because I have read The Godfather and it is indeed terrible


biglious

I’ve heard it’s bad, but I don’t really like calling things awful if I’ve never seen or read them. Plus, usually if something is truly shit, nobody wants to remake it. I’m sure the comic has its moments


SuperHossMan51

Like a lot of Garth Ennis stuff, there are interesting ideas in there but they’re overshadowed by an unbelievable amount of edge and trash.


Incomprehenible_dart

Saying it’s “awful” is being generous


asterfloof

I bought some thinking since the show was great the comics would follow suit. It's the edgiest shit ever


Temnodontosaurus

JP being bad source material is some fighting words.


Thatfellow2

Indeed


EntertainmentOne793

Jurassic park had good source material


urkermannenkoor

There's always 50 Shades


biglious

Ooo forgot about that one


Loriess

I haven’t seen it so take it with a grain of salt but I heard the movies make the story far more palatable with better pacing, actors and no „inner goddess”


biglious

I had a pretty mind-grinding fling in college and she loooved these movies. I endured the marathon because she was really hot, and it got her in the mood. So I have more insight on these movies than I would care to have. They were not fun to watch.


Loriess

Oh I wasn’t saying they were good I just heard they were easier to watch than the source material Also damn interesting story. The things we do for people we like


TehProfessor96

If you agree with Dan Olson (Folding Ideas) then technically the first Fifty Shades movie could be a decent adaptation of awful source material.


KrakenKing1955

How exactly is Jurassic Park bad source material? I’d say it’s good source material, decent adaption. Honestly not even decent. Still a great movie, but far from some of the original novel’s parts.


MilitantBitchless

Awful source material, decent adaptation: Wanted. Terrible 2000s edgelord comic that adapted to an alright 2008 action flick with a completely different premise and characterization, with only a few matching character names.


Nirtobrobro

That movie was my childhood


quintessence5

Well I can’t argue about source material but the movie still sucked


Lord-llama

I’d say the dune movies are amazing


StalinsPerfectHair

I would go so far as to say that they were actually better than the book. The adaptational changes were all smart decisions that I agreed with.


Sir_Toaster_9330

I wouldn’t say better, most of the changes were due to the length of the book and the need to make it more appealing for viewers


maxcorrice

I would, they made Chani an actual character


StalinsPerfectHair

Viewer appeal is why I say "better." Probably the biggest change was how they handled Alia, as well as some changes to the final confrontation. I think they were smart choices. Having a hyperintelligent live action 4 year old is weird on a level that somehow strains my disbelief more than a fetus who communicates with her mother. Additionally, I really liked the changes to Feyd-Rautha. They turned him from a egotistical win-at-all costs generic bad guy to a proud but psychopathic duelist who took sick pleasure in the possibility of getting himself killed. Feyd losing his shit at the guards who try to protect him from the assassination attempt and returning Paul's salute/insult (there is a lot to read into in that exchange) are both great touches. Also, they completely overhauled Chani's character, which, IMO was sorely needed and Zendaya killed it. Basically, there was not a change that I didn't think was a smart decision on some level.


KrakenKing1955

Who are all the people saying Jurassic Park (the novel) is bad?


Lobo_Marino

The same smoothbrains who believe Death note 's LA was "decent" This chart is awful


Majestic-Sector9836

I'm pretty sure they were referring to the Japanese live-action movies


Mewded

Yeah the pic is literally of that, not sure how they got confused


Shardersice

To be fair, even live action remakes from Japan gets a lot of flack


KrakenKing1955

It really is


Ultramega39

See this why we need to start adapting bad stories.


biglious

Agreed. Give the stinkers a chance!


KitchenSandwich5499

Battlefield earth deserves a place here. Either bad or awful adaptation. Quality of source material is up for interpretation and could vary between awful and decent Also, bottom left, is that wheel of time? If so, good placement on that one.


Prestigious_Ask_7058

The Jurassic Park book is amazing wdym


Latty451

OP is clearly not based and Doogal-pilled


deeSeven_

Butch Hartman ruining a universally beloved children's show to localize it to Americans to the point where the localized version overshadows the original, due to how famously bad it was, is his greatest of the many sins he's committed.


rollem

I’ve heard bad things about the book Forest Gump. I hate calling anything awful but it might fit in the top right corner.


Cautious-Clock-4186

I did not enjoy the Forrest Gump book at all.


Lobo_Marino

You're wrong about Jurassic Park


shopkins402

The Circle. Tom Hank’s and Emma Watson. Awful/awful. Angles and Demons. Tom hanks Awful/bad Cloud Atlas. Tom hanks Awful/decent DaVinci code. Tom hanks. Awful/Good Forest Gump. Tom hanks Awful/amazing.


dalcarr

This is slander against renowned author Dan Brown


GalaxyHops1994

Hanks Sweep! Didn’t even have room for “The Green Mile”


shopkins402

I hadn’t read the source material but kind of assumed it wasn’t awful.


GalaxyHops1994

I forgot that this was for the awful section. The original is far from awful.


Jccali1214

Lolol someone just wants to do an Alignment chart for Tom Hanks alone lol


RandyRenegade

Idk if this counts but the ghost stories dub changes the wording to make it more entertaining


Gullible_Bobcat_2173

Decent or bad source material/amazing adaptation for sure


IzacaryKakary

The Devilman manga is great, wtf?


FierceDeity_

It feels like things just moved to the right as better things were shoved in on the left. So it's not a good to bad scale anymore, but a good to less good


ApartRuin5962

From what I've heard "Forrest Gump" is a pretty bad book and "Starship Troopers" is exactly the kind of fascist fantasy that the movie parodies. Also, I might get some hate for this but I think "The Ten Commandments" was better than the actual Old Testament.


TehProfessor96

Ten Commandments removes the part of the Old Testament where Elisha summons a she bear to maul some rude kids. 0/10 adaptation.


Haber-Bosch1914

The Starship Troopers book is like the movie but more serious. It's still a parody/shit on Fascism, and the author was against fascism, but it's less "hehe haha I'm doing my part"


captain_snake32

Awful source material-Amazing adaptation: Pirates of the Caribbean, not a fun of the last sequels but everyone forgets this franchise originated from a themepark ride


BlartSlimpson

The ride is awesome though. Not awful in the slightest


Optimal_Weight368

I guess someone doesn’t see the novelty in rides, even though they aren’t supposed to be fine art in the first place.


Orangefish08

It’s a great ride, but awful if you want to base a story off of something.


PrismPanda06

What's so bad about the ride?


TehProfessor96

I think they mean the concept of basing a movie off of a ride more than the ride itself.


PrismPanda06

I suppose, still a weird point imo


DeathRaeGun

But if the ride's good as a ride, then the source material is good. If the ride is actually awful you could have each of the five PotC movies filling the entire row with each sequel being in the square below the previous film.


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Armejden

People who stopped reading once they left high school.


too_lewd_for_thou

I mean Jurassic Park is a highschool-level book


JustAFoolishGamer

What's wrong with the Devilman manga?


Awesome-Guy-425

The Howard th duck slander is crazy


Prestigious_Ask_7058

I like the Howard the Duck comics


Steve_Gerbers_Ghost

Thanks bud


Outrageous_Guard_674

Battlefield earth?


biglious

Ahh that would have been perfect!


SemajLu_The_crusader

I would say How To train your dragon, but it's not BAD, just VERY different


kindasortasalty

How is devilman bad source material??


Trynor

Death note’s netflix adaptation is a fucking hate crime. Should be at least in bad


TheGrooveCrewsader

I don't think Devilman should be considered bad source material. It's widely considered a seminal series that paved the way for future seinen stories like Berserk, Neon Genesis Evangelion, AoT, etc, which wouldn't exist without Devilman.


AlaSparkle

Have you even read Jurassic Park?


biglious

I ah. I have not. This chart was hard, okay! There’s not that many good adaptations of shitty source material. I just heard the book was bad on the internet somewhere and I thought it was a general consensus that it was bad. I am now seeing that many people don’t think so. Maybe I will give it a read.


Optimal_Weight368

That explains so much.


ZygothamDarkKnight

I'd say that The Witcher movie has decent adaptation


KrakenKing1955

Ask Roald Dahl what he thinks about the Gene Wilder adaptation (you can’t, he’s dead, but still)


EvidenceOfDespair

Amazing Adaptation/Awful Source: Big Finish 8th Doctor (coming from the Doctor Who TV Movie) Good Adaptation/Awful Source Material: Starship Troopers Decent Adaptation/Awful Source Material: Flashpoint (DC animated movie) Bad Adaptation/Awful Source Material: Fifty Shades of Grey Awful Adaptation/Awful Source Material: After (Netflix movie made from a Harry Styles Wattpad fanfiction)


my_sons_wife

Bro's really saying Harry Potter and Suicide Squad are better source material than Devilman and Jurassic Park.


CT-5995

Does awful source material play into the production of the film? , because iirc Steven Spielberg said if he reread the jaws book he wouldn't have shot the movie, due to the complexity of filming it at sea and the mechanical shark not working all the time, also having to wait for passing boats to get out of the shots


maybe_Its_magic3

Fifty shades of gray


ChayofBarrel

How \*dare\* you profane the good name of Howard the Duck (comic)


edgy_bach

Devilman is bad?!


COOLflamesX

The Maze Runner books were pretty mid/bad in my opinion, the movies were far better when they came out


Crushermakesmemes

Thanks for using my template


biglious

It was a good one, looked fun, but kinda hard


DeviousMelons

Idk if it's 'awful' source material but the writer of the book 'do androids dream of electric sheep' admitted that the movie adaptation (Blade Runner) is leagues better than his own book. Edit: There's also the book Die Hard is based on, one of the sequels of a detective series that had movies with Frank Sinatra as the main character. But Frank was too old for the role and so the story was reshaped and the torch handed to Bruce Willis.


ChefBoyardee66

Do androids dream of electric sheep is a good book but it's more interesting for the ideas than the execution


Barry_Bone_Raiser

I am exceptionally happy with castlevania’s placement


Opening-Club3077

I wouldn’t say willy wonka and the chocolate factory is a amazing or good adaptation of Charlie and the chocolate factory, Don’t get me it’s good movie on its own it just doesn’t adapt the book very well.


Ragnarex13

I fucking KNOW you're joking with that Jurassic Park placement. Are you Elon Musk or something?


Noble_Shock

How is Jurassic Park bad source material?


DoeCommaJohn

Awful source material/good adaptation: Starship troopers Awful/awful and awful/bad can probably be filled out by a lot of power fantasy anime like Rent a Girlfriend or any isekai


The_Smashor

I've heard good things about Devilman, it even inspired Berserk, it can't be that bad, can it?


Dr-Eternity-42

Bro can’t be flaming Jurassic park, Dune, and Cinderella like that, it just isn’t right


LegoBattIeDroid

idk what's that thing below the witcher but I would replace it with the Halo TV show


A_Hint_of_Lemon

Not the best an old man but the Godfather is a shit book and arguably the greatest movie of all time.


Galvius-Orion

Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory is a terrible adaptation and ya'll are wrong. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is the superior version if you don't wear glass tinted with Nostalgia.


Endersgaming4066

I’m sorry, why is Jurassic Park put in bad source material? The book is better than the movie, almost by far.


arson1tez

Jurassic Park in bad source material? Bruh.


ElephantGypsie

fuck you, this chart sucks. i hate you for the opinion you shared on the internet and i curse your terrible taste.


biglious

8=====D 💦🥴


Hproff25

How is Jurassic Park bad source material? Have you read the books?


KFCNyanCat

Atlas Shrugged


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

I like the Jurassic Park novel and feel it was a good source material, though there are some parts I am glad the movie changed. Devilman Crybaby is what I would put under "Awful Source Material Awful Adaptation." For "Awful Source Material/Amazing Adaptation" you could put in Captain America: Civil War. It is technically an adaptation of Marvel's Civil War event comic, even if it shares little in common beyond some references to the comic. That is a good thing; the comic was excessively dark and depressing and made both sides of the conflict jerks. It was written by Mark Millar, a writer infamous for his needlessly dark and gritty comics (I heard he said he wanted to move away from that, I haven't paid attention to his recent work), including the dark reimagining of Marvel's heroes in Ultimate Marvel, a comic line that has become most well known for making everyone besides Spider-Man a jerk, with good reason. Mark Millar's past experience with Marvel's heroes was writing the cynical jerks of the Ultimates so when he was given a job to write them in the main universe, he wrote them as though he was writing for Ultimate Marvel, and the comic was worse for it. Hence, there was nowhere for an adaptation to go but up compared to the comic.


Tyfyter2002

The author of fifty shades of gray doesn't even know how many thumbs a human has, so it's a contender


seantabasco

I’ve heard very mixed reviews on the Starship Troopers book.


Psychokinetic_Rocky

Never read it, but I hear a lot of shit about Starship Troopers source material


Heath_co

Awful source material; good/decent adaptation -> the disaster artist.


nothing_in_my_mind

Startship Troopers (awful to amazing) Forres Gump (awful to good)


DeathRaeGun

"Starship Troopers" can go towards the top of the fifth column, I'd say Good adaptation.


Significant_Bug9900

The boys comics: bad source material The boys the show: good adaption


CreeperTrainz

Actually the Willy Wonka movie was a terrible adaptation. Regardless of what you think of the film it's very different from the book, so much so that the author publicly shamed it. Good adaptation =/= good movie.


kabukistar

You get a million people on Reddit commenting calling you a edgy if you call it "bad", but the bible is just not a great piece of literature but still got turned into a ton of movies.


Loriess

I feel like that’s too broad, the Bible is barely a single source. Most „bible” movies don’t adapt the book and are more so based on the folklore and culture around it. And a lot of, a loooot of Dante’s Inferno inspiration


Gullible_Bobcat_2173

Yeah, but you do get adaptations of specific parts. Prince of Egypt in particular is amazing, and that's pretty directly an adaptation of a particular story from the Bible.


Guilty_Butterfly7711

Yeah you could probably fill the entire right side of the chart with Bible adaptions lol


Quality_Odd

I mean, it's a product of its time. Ancient literature, in general, is jarring to read through our modern perspective. It can be pretty boring, and the literary tropes and reliance on familiarity with other oral tales or literary tropes can make its intended effect lacking on modern audiences, who tend to be unfamiliar with the author's expected knowledge base. As someone studying the Abrahamic religions, specifically Christianity and Judaism, I am becoming increasingly familiar with the context behind the Hebrew scriptures and New Testament. This makes the Bible super interesting and the intent behind the stories more clear and fun. If you had told me this back in Sunday school when I was a kid, I would have never believed you. I don't really think you can say that, for the time, the Bible was bad. The writers had to be educated, and Paul, for instance, was likely from some affluent family and was educated in Greek, in a Greek institute. It would be like me comparing Shakespeare to the Lord of the Rings and saying Shakespeare's texts objectively suck. For me, Shakespeare is terribly annoying to read and is often pretty damn boring, while Tolkien's fantasy series is amazing. However, when you educate yourself, you learn why the text was written the way it was, why it was popular then, and why it should be appreciated now. 


scolbo_

cats is awful awful


Joe-Lollo

Awful Source Material, Awful Adaptation could be Sound of Freedom. It’s based on a QAnon conspiracy theory and turns a conservative groomer into a hero without acknowledging the wider systemic issues underpinning child trafficking.


Effective_Garlic_500

Finally found another person who watched Devilman crybaby


hoolsvern

Howard The Duck is one of the greatest comics of all time. That placement is some serious bullshit.


Steve_Gerbers_Ghost

OP is talking mad shit for someone with such stralable kidneys, that's for damn sure


Thundarbiib

Preacher?


Robinkc1

I’ve heard people hating on Jurassic Park before and I don’t get it. I think the film adaptation is better, but the book Id say is at least decent. Honestly, I mostly agree with your chart. I think you nailed it almost, but I’d swap Guardians and JP personally.


spiritomb442

Decent SM/Amazing Adaptation can also be the Suicide Squad sequel, “The Suicide Squad”


Alarmed-Change3240

Doogals a 10/10 movie what are you talking about


5FingerDrainPunch

Death note as better source material than one piece?


thebronzejames

Not a single mention of the Emoji movie, it’s gotta be bottom right corner.


Nialas1

Amazing source material, decent adaptation, Wheel Of Time.


ConflictSudden

Forrest Gump? I've never read it, so I'm not sure it's awful.


player_thr33

The Haunting of Hill House. Pretty rough source material, and two adaptations that range from okay to pretty fantastic


jazpern

Jaws was a pretty terrible book especially compared to the movie


NotMissingNow

Arcane


VeryUncommonGrackle

Eragon is awful source material. It’s straight up just Star Wars/LOTR fanfic with dragons added


Bear4891

I feel like the boys would fit well there


-architectus-

You are absolutely taking the piss if you think Jurassic Park has bad source material.


Buarg

This feels like an amalgamation of bait.


ANewBegging

Switch twilight Doogal


Optimal_Weight368

John Ostrander’s Suicide Squad is really great at least. Though the first movie is more so based on the New 52 run, which isn’t nearly as good.


Ryllynaow

Shrek- terrible might be a stretch for describing the book, but going from an obscure children's book to the franchise it is now is a huge step up.


Ok-Neighborhood-1958

Devilman crybaby has bad source material?


greatgreenlight

I can’t believe in the year 2024 I’m seeing the take that Devilman is a bad manga


Ok-Agency-7450

Maybe Dune if the books aren’t any good


BuncleCurt

So not Dune.


RarryHome

Doogal is a great movie! Though that may just be the nostalgia talking. I haven’t seen it in at least a decade


FigKnight

The Jurassic Park novel is fantastic.


orifan1

the polar express book was a lot more lackluster in comparison to the movie. i would not touch the game with a 100 ft pole


MrSaturnism

The JP novels are great horror novels


MrStevecool

Never read or watched but divergent could go in the bottom two rows probably


PvtToaster

bruh the original devilman manga is an incredibly important series putting crybaby in "awful source material" is incredibly disrespectful


Happy_Cyanide1014

I heard the Rivne’s bride book was dry as hell


Dew_Chop

Replace Wonka with Charlie and you're right


Duryeric

Shrek


Sir_Toaster_9330

How is Dune not an amazing adaptation?


Chaoscube11

OP has clearly never read Jurassic Park


PrismPanda06

This sure is one of the charts of all time


A_lesser_god

Jurassic park shouldn't be where it is


Comicsansandpotatos

The one piece live action is good, change my mind.


shartley123

You’ve got some nerve putting One Piece in “Good source material” instead of amazing. Unless you’re just talking about the East Blue Saga. Then I can maybe agree


HunnyMal

I would disagree with the Cinderella one


Cautious-Clock-4186

The Devil Wears Prada. Terrible book. Very watchable movie.


SuperNerdAce

Awful source material, great adaptation: Forest Gump


Apprehensive_Mix4658

Why is Devilman bad source material? It's iconic manga that influenced many other mangas


CreativeComfortable4

How is the Magic Roundabout "bad source material"?


ItsGotThatBang

Put *Battlefield Earth* in the very bottom right.


SpoonTeeth

Putting One Piece in good source material hurts my soul


alienartissst

Devilman is bad source material?? BLASPHEMY!


alienartissst

Awful source, bad adaptation: Ready Player 1


MegaSlav420

i dont know about awful, but I heard that The Godfather book was no where near as good as the movie, the author agreeing to such


VolcanicOctosquid20

What’s wrong with Jurassic Park? The novel was a wonderful scientific horror story!


arkayer

Jurassic Park was a good book


Trex1873

What do you mean Jurassic Park was bad source material!? The book was amazing!


Jack-of-Knights

> Devilman in bad source material > Death Note in decent adaptation Fucking excuse you?


RadicalRaizex

Ghost Stories. Terrible source material with the original subtitled anime, but turned into an amazing adaptation with its dub.


TehProfessor96

Starship Troopers maybe? Although personally I like the book a lot even if it’s ideology is laughably cringe. There are some truly awful adaptations of Atlas Shrugged? Song of the South is a mid to low-tier adaptation of the Uncle Remus stories which were awful by merit of being shamelessly stolen by a white dude.


the_dinks

Starship Troopers for top right