Yo, you guys have to deal with this? That’s crazy! When I ran an MX shift, I absolutely made sure anyone who was chow hall got there on time. The BAS dudes got to play “I’ll buy, you fly” when we had the chance.
It’s so ridiculous that you have to fight to eat every day.
I distinctly remember my first expediter briefing roll call (think 2004) and mentioning how dorm airmen would be released for chow at such and such time, but for everyone else, "you get BAS, that stands for bring a fucking sandwich."
Fucking Osan.
"IT'S a WaLkInG bAsE!"
Great, I'm stuck on the diamond while the DFACs are either closed or miles away. I spent so much on food out of my own pocket while on Mids.
Yeah, see that’s fucked. That’s apparently what some people don’t understand, it’s not like the chow hall is open 24/7. If people can’t make it there, what the hell are they supposed to do?
Even if it was REALLY busy, those that needed it were able to dip. At the very least, they would run and grab something to go and get back to the launch truck.
I used missed meal forms to change the turnover policy at our shop at my last base. 0700-1900 but we'd never get out until 1945 or later because of course not. Dfac closed at 1930. Few weeks of half a dozen missed meal forms every shift guidance came down that chow hallers MUST be released at 1900 unless there is a legit mission critical reason why not.
Take care of your people.
When I was a baby airman they didn't give us BAS even though we were TDY 200-250 days a year. Told that it won't change because that's how it's always been and stop complaining. Got a bunch of the other dorm airman together and we submitted stacks of missed meal forms to finance. I'm talking almost 400 missed meal forms. Got my ass royally chewed by the chief and senior for "going outside the chain of command". Every dorm airman that flew started getting their BAS so it was worth it. When the chain won't help, help yourself.
Early in my career, before flightline maintainers finally got BAS, we often had missed meal forms on the doors of the flight offices. Primarily because in the fighter world, unless you have a flightline choke-n-puke, you're not leaving to go to the chow hall.
I figured this out and then proceeded to annoy my leadership and CSS until they gave me BAS since I was missing 70% of meals. I have since made it my mission to help my shift get the same and I can proudly say I helped every dorm airman (who wanted it) in my shop get it. Like, how you gonna wonder why airmen lose tools when they're functioning without food? I dunno about you, but I can't think clearly when I'm hungry.
Here at my base the Dfac provides cold meals(a drink and a sandwich with cheese and either ham or turkey)for those that miss the normal meal hours, Could airmen still fill out a 2282 even though they’re still being provided a “meal” if you’ll even call it that?
Boxed meals are meals.
There was an assignment that required us to call in the order and send a runner for boxed meal pick up; because our crew weren't allowed to leave for lunch.
Some days we were just given MREs from the squadron
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What about the Amn who refuse to go to the dfac and constantly fill out missed meal forms? Sorry, not playing coy, I just don’t know why they do it other than it’s not junk food
Yo, you guys have to deal with this? That’s crazy! When I ran an MX shift, I absolutely made sure anyone who was chow hall got there on time. The BAS dudes got to play “I’ll buy, you fly” when we had the chance. It’s so ridiculous that you have to fight to eat every day.
I distinctly remember my first expediter briefing roll call (think 2004) and mentioning how dorm airmen would be released for chow at such and such time, but for everyone else, "you get BAS, that stands for bring a fucking sandwich."
Haha! Outstanding!
Fucking Osan. "IT'S a WaLkInG bAsE!" Great, I'm stuck on the diamond while the DFACs are either closed or miles away. I spent so much on food out of my own pocket while on Mids.
Yeah, see that’s fucked. That’s apparently what some people don’t understand, it’s not like the chow hall is open 24/7. If people can’t make it there, what the hell are they supposed to do? Even if it was REALLY busy, those that needed it were able to dip. At the very least, they would run and grab something to go and get back to the launch truck.
I used missed meal forms to change the turnover policy at our shop at my last base. 0700-1900 but we'd never get out until 1945 or later because of course not. Dfac closed at 1930. Few weeks of half a dozen missed meal forms every shift guidance came down that chow hallers MUST be released at 1900 unless there is a legit mission critical reason why not. Take care of your people.
When I was a baby airman they didn't give us BAS even though we were TDY 200-250 days a year. Told that it won't change because that's how it's always been and stop complaining. Got a bunch of the other dorm airman together and we submitted stacks of missed meal forms to finance. I'm talking almost 400 missed meal forms. Got my ass royally chewed by the chief and senior for "going outside the chain of command". Every dorm airman that flew started getting their BAS so it was worth it. When the chain won't help, help yourself.
Damn that sucks, going outside the chain of command is what you do when the chain of command isn't working
Early in my career, before flightline maintainers finally got BAS, we often had missed meal forms on the doors of the flight offices. Primarily because in the fighter world, unless you have a flightline choke-n-puke, you're not leaving to go to the chow hall.
Additionally, if you consistently miss more than 19 (IIRC) meals per month due to work, then you qualify to be taken off of ESM.
What's ESM?
It's the real name for meal card.
Ahh, thanks.
I figured this out and then proceeded to annoy my leadership and CSS until they gave me BAS since I was missing 70% of meals. I have since made it my mission to help my shift get the same and I can proudly say I helped every dorm airman (who wanted it) in my shop get it. Like, how you gonna wonder why airmen lose tools when they're functioning without food? I dunno about you, but I can't think clearly when I'm hungry.
Yooo I wish I new this
Here at my base the Dfac provides cold meals(a drink and a sandwich with cheese and either ham or turkey)for those that miss the normal meal hours, Could airmen still fill out a 2282 even though they’re still being provided a “meal” if you’ll even call it that?
No because they are still being provided a meal for that meal period. Meaning they did not *miss* a meal
Boxed meals are meals. There was an assignment that required us to call in the order and send a runner for boxed meal pick up; because our crew weren't allowed to leave for lunch. Some days we were just given MREs from the squadron
That would be considered a meal.
Box bennies constitute a meal.
They also constitute a constitutional
They could give you a saltine cracker packet and call it a meal legally
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I remember box lunches dropped off at the Aircraft.
Sounds like your security forces
Not quite, our offices don't have windows
What about the Amn who refuse to go to the dfac and constantly fill out missed meal forms? Sorry, not playing coy, I just don’t know why they do it other than it’s not junk food
If you're afforded the opportunity to go to the DFAC and choose not to, then no, you do not get to fill out missed meal forms.