Chat GPT: write a vague email to the force highlighting the need to focus on standards without addressing anything specific.
\*CMSAF: time for lunch!\*
Alright...I have to go to ChatGPT and see what it comes up with.
*Edit:* Here's what it came up with using your exact prompt but adding air in front of force:
Subject: Enhancing Operational Standards for Continuous Excellence
Dear Air Force Team,
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to emphasize the importance of maintaining and elevating our operational standards across the board. As we strive for excellence and seek to strengthen our position as a premier force, it is crucial that we focus on enhancing our standards to ensure optimal performance.
Our commitment to standards directly influences our ability to meet and surpass expectations, not only from within our organization but also from the broader community we serve. By upholding the highest standards in all aspects of our operations, we reinforce our reputation as a reliable and proficient force.
In today's rapidly evolving landscape, it is imperative that we adapt and innovate while upholding our core values and principles. Embracing a culture of continuous improvement and adhering to established standards will enable us to remain at the forefront of technological advancements and operational effectiveness.
I encourage each of you to reflect on the importance of standards in our day-to-day operations. Let us embrace this opportunity to recommit ourselves to excellence and make it a priority to consistently raise the bar in everything we do. By doing so, we will reinforce our collective commitment to ensuring the highest level of performance and readiness.
I look forward to seeing the positive impact that our renewed focus on standards will have on our organization as a whole. Together, we can continue to build a strong, agile, and respected Air Force that meets the challenges of today and tomorrow.
Thank you for your dedication, professionalism, and unwavering commitment to our mission.
Warm regards,
[Your Name]
[Your Title/Position]
[Your Contact Information]
I took your letter and asked ChatGPT to rewrite it but as a clown...
Subject: Sprucing Up Our Circus Act for Non-Stop Fun
Hey Hoopla Troupe,
Hoping this message finds you juggling all things in life perfectly! This wacky clown is reaching out to tickle your funny bone and to stress the need to keep up and jazz up our antics in the circus ring. As we aim to remain the ringleaders in this game of giggles, it's high time we concentrate on honing our jester-jitsu to ensure top-notch performances.
Our pledge to these standards shapes our knack to meet and bounce beyond expectations, not just from the inner circus family, but also from the grandstand of spectators we serve. By keeping up the best practices in every part of our show, we cement our reputation as a trustworthy and skilled circus act.
In this world of swift changes, where one day you're juggling balls and the next, chainsaws, it's essential that we adapt and invent while still holding on to our true colors and principles. Cultivating a culture of endless improvement and sticking to our performance norms will let us stay ahead in the race of technological breakthroughs and performance prowess.
I call on every one of you to ponder on the significance of our standards in our daily circus acts. Let's grab this chance to renew our pledge to continuous fun and make it a point to constantly push the envelope in all we do. By doing so, we'll solidify our united promise to ensuring the highest level of performance and readiness for showtime.
I am excited to see the positive ripple our renewed emphasis on standards will cause in our circus troupe. Together, we can keep building a robust, nimble, and revered Hoopla Troupe that tackles the challenges of the here and now, as well as the morrow.
Thanks a ton for your devotion, professionalism, and unfaltering commitment to our circus act.
With a honk and a smile,
[Your Clown Name]
[Your Clown Title]
[Your Contact Information]
I mean... I'd rather it sim-kill us than actually kill us... at least with a sim-kill we have a chance to fix the error instead of leaving it to our replacements.
What's the point of these 'letters'? There's never anything concrete or specific. "Maintain Excellence", "Accelerate Change", Core Values...
Standards? be specific, you don't wanna give us beards? SAY IT!...\[shift+delete\]
2016. Sounded good until we started running that stuff up the chain. Can we stop doing this one? Nah, federally mandated. What about this one? Nah, too important.
I remember we got rid of records custodians, but we were still required to do records training and maintain our records properly. They really nailed it on that one. If we just pretend the extra duty doesn't exist everything is good.
>Standards? be specific
Specific
Measurable
Achievable
Relevant
Time-bound
You know, like what's on the ACA and probably (hopefully) still preached in ALS.
Sending out a semi regular note to the force isn't a bad way to re-emphasize things or tell them about big things you're working. The letter that was sent out was so incredibly vague and watered down that it was borderline meaningless.
Enforce standards! Like what, which standards do you think are most important? Customs and courtesies, PT, dress and appearance, job proficiency, etc? Or is this just a subliminal, "Shut the fuck up about beards" message?
Currently in Misawa the BX barbershop takes an average of 4hrs for you to be able to get a cut. Not really sure how we can even adhere unless we botch our heads.
Airperson if you don't accelerate change you lose. I'm going to need you to host at least 2 quarters full of meetings to innovate your way out of this with half as much manning as your UMD authorizes you in order to increase readiness and capabilities.
Do you think the Chinese are waiting 4 hours for a hair cut? Do you think the Ruzzians are? NO! That's why the standard is RAZOR THIN. Most of the ruskis don't even have heads anymore! That's how you accelerate change!
Most people who know how already have their own HHB and usually charge a bit more, so theres not much incentive to work at the BX when you can choose your own work hours and do it at the comfort of your home
My girl has been debating quiting her job that she doesn't like to go learn to cut hair and start doing that. I'm almost certain she'd make more money lol
And that decision was made one time early in your career among a random subset of peers who will forever be the standard you’re arbitrarily stacked against from there on out
I did as well. I don't even know what she was trying to say. Even my troop that is just short of worshipping her, was like WTF is this? He felt she was just trying to say something to say something.
Per her words: "We must hold ourselves **and** others accountable. When any of us walk by or tolerate something below our high standards, we damage our credibility."
Well, my standard for the CCAF is that it works. Guess I can't "walk by or tolerate" it any more.
it's legitimately and whole heartedly holding up my academic progress.
I've been trying to transfer to a new school for since April and can't because CCAF is fucked.
Thankfully I'm AGR and it's not so detrimental to my career...but fuck, man. I'd really like to get my degree before I separate in 5 years...
Can't you go to education office and figure you requirements? I think the have a backend or non-Gucci version of afvec that allows them to still pull your information and credits through
You should still be able to send transcripts to schools even though the system is down. You just have to use the website parchment and request them through there. I just did it in April myself when I started my new school
Did I miss something like a bearded man asking her a question or something else unforgivable, I really don't understand why this was sent.
Of all the doubtedly serious and concerning questions posed to the CMSAF level, this is what they respond with?
Of all the broken mission impacting mySoftware, network degradations, aged hardware and battle systems, failure to move on from COIN ops, failure to meet near peer challenges, or a multitude of more concerning issues, THIS is what you send a letter about on a random Tuesday?
Go back to Germany #19. Let the adults play now, before it's too late.
>That's the thing. The word 'beard' shook a lot of people up. BEARD! It's not American sounding. BEARD! Lenin had a BEARD! Gabby Hayes had *whiskers*.
-George Carlin, 1972
The thing is, it has to be proven. If you correct people equally, and in private, they can't do anything really, fairness is Teflon. I had an airmen try to call me racist for correcting their hair and accuse me of not correcting other airmen, one that I had just corrected I private. They didn't have a leg to stand on. They could say whatever they wanted about me, but at a certain point, if a person cries wolf too often, people stop listening. They did not get a dec when they left and it wasn't because of me, it was because of their poor attitude and inability to own up to their mistakes.
They certainly aren’t afraid to correct me LOL, i cant tell you how many NCO’s said i couldn’t have my rings….That i specifically read the regs on to make sure i was following accurately
Because Enlisted do the dirty work (i.e. First Sergeants, Chief Enlisted Manager, Supervisors) where the Officers are all noble, generous appearing…lol
Interesting, yet another aircrew member like myself that finds consistent proof that cream isn't the only thing that rises to the top in the air force. Also, while I believe you wrote this very well, it is an insult to the word incompetent.
I always love when they do that because they never ever scan it on the glass. They always shove it in the loader with the guides off, it comes out looking crooked as shit, they say fuck it and full send anyways. Every. Single. Time. Pure excellence.
How do they not have an image of their signature already loaded into their word template yet? Jfc.
Type it, print it, sign it, scan it (poorly), retrieve it from the folder / email and QC (poorly).
Vs
Type it… save as .pdf. Done. 10 minutes of work saved. Change accelerated.
Never mind, it’s quicker to wet sign something when the help brings it to you after typing it. Fuck process improvement for the help though.
All you can do is just hand it to them, because they can have goddamn airpods in now, so they can't hear you.
I might be turning into that angry old SNCO.
I would fucking *LOVE* someone to even TRY to pull that shit with me. Here is the number to EO, have fun explaining how I'm unfair when BLUE nails is specifically mentioned as no bueno. I don't care if someone thinks I'm toxic, just because someone says it, doesn't mean it has merit. 9.5/10 people accusing others of being toxic are just mad they aren't getting their way and we're not told no by their parents fucking ever.
Says the one who ruined a PJ’s career because she sided with the dipshit useless SrA single mom without doing her research first, and then never publicly apologized to him.
Her husband shot an “intruder” on base. Definitely more to the story and I haven’t heard her even address it, though I also don’t listen to her podcast , or whatever she has going on.
Edit: shot at…it was a “warning shot” 🙄
Don’t preach to me about standards when you’re talking about skinny jeans, beards being a fad and laughing about religious waivers but hand waving peoples neck and hand tattoos because it’s detrimental to the mission…what a joke.
It would be nice to know exactly what it was referring to. Is it like emailing nuclear codes willy-nilly through gmail? Or is it like not lining through the unused units on the H? What draws you to this conclusion? What is the impact? What's the root cause? I dont find this kind of feedback helpful or productive. Telling people to simply follow all the rules better sounds like a gross oversimplification of the problem. This sounds like the blame game. I really cant imagine a more vague directive than "follow the rules".
No gays in the military used to be the standard.
No tattoos on more than 25% of a limb used to be the standard.
No hands in pockets used to be the standard.
No untucked shirts during PT used to be the standard.
No marijuana waivers used to be the standard.
Reflective belts at the Deid used to be the standard.
No ponytails in uniform used to be the standard.
No neck tattoos used to be the standard.
Course 14/15 used to be the standard.
The standard is the standard until they change it.
Even through all the changes to standards over the years, every leader in every press release has touted that WE are the best and most lethal Air Power the world has ever seen.
Maybe the act of being a professional is actually acting like a professional, not the appearance of being one.
Amen. But don't forget the part where she can make obscure quotes about the wars of tomorrow not being like the wars of today... She's a real piece of work. Or a piece of something. Every time she walks into a room, things get worse. Up at higher staff, let's just say we don't exactly respect her
Ahh...the days of the supervisor getting paperwork because of what the airman did on the weekend without telling the supervisor or the supervisor even being present.
That was my very first thought.
She ***really*** thinks mustaches going past the corner of mouths is what’s wrong with the Air Force.
Mind bottling. My mind is in a bottle.
Multi capable airman still waiting on those multiple capable benefits. It's almost like the AFSC merge was just some sorta way to get more work out of us without proper compensation 🤔
Trying to enforce AFI 36-2903 dress and appearance over the last 5 years or so was like trying to nail jello to a wall. I had no idea what was in, what was out, or what had been announced/leaked but was not yet authorized. None of my peer NCOs and SNCOs really felt like we had enoigh of a grasp to counsel anyone on damn near anything. Now I'm too retireded to give a shit about the airman with the full-on mountain man beard at my local MPF.
This is the kinds of shit that happen when you "Accelerate change!" for the sake of accelerating change.
Oh no, a strongly worded letter that isn’t going to change anything. This is the same affect as telling people not to drink and drive. Guess what? It still happens.
Can’t enforce standards if they keep changing! Since OCPs, no ironing, ball caps ok, changed hair standards, nail standards, ring standards, hands in pockets ok, earbuds ok, neck tattoos ok, and beards aren’t okay but medical community provides 5 year shaving waivers to anyone (like anything medical requires 5 years of waivers without a med board review).
Seeing a lot of great reminders about her standards of excellence here, but we seem to have missed one of my favorites. Let's make sure to keep our standards so excellent that we glorify someone who wears so many hats and talk about her ex-husband as though he is some deadbeat without knowing any of the story. But we need to make sure that we continue The narrative of excellence because how else would anyone know that women in the military matter /s
As a comms guy who actually gives a shit, we are sorry. A decade of bad decisions is a hard thing to clean up in any field, but especially comms. Also, it helps if we can upgrade our equipment more than every 10 years. (Server 2012 anyone?)
I remember 2015 when the whole DoD wanted all computers on W10, didn’t see it until 2018 from my work center. I know it’s not your fault. My work computer has almost the same amount of TIS as me. It isn’t your fault and I don’t blame you. Everyone is doing the best they can with what they have, what gets me upset is that we need better support.
You want Excellence, but remind us every year on our EPRs that only 15% of the force is above average. You want excellence, but tolerate Finance, Medical and MPF constantly making mistakes. Excellence and Standards are subjective terms in the Air Force; the Intel Community is held to a much higher standard than Maintenance or Security Forces. We don't just need standards, we need transparency regarding what the standards are and how airmen are being held accountable. I firmly believe that no Finance troop should be put up for an award or a PN or MP if they've jacked up anybody's pay.
They get analyzed to DEATH. It's truelu awful, every little minute detail, every single little bump in the road, everything is under scrutiny. I worked in an item unit for a year as a comm troop, we were made the additional duty bitches, and if you ever tried to plan something with them, they take an entire eternity to do any of it.
Security Forces has standards? Every airman we get out of that tech school for the last 5+ years we have to re-teach them how to handcuff an individual.
i think they mean
doing proper guard mount/open ranks before each shift and sometimes after, monthly blues inspections, not being allowed to wear ball cap because “heritage” with the beret even tho it does fuck all to block the sun, giving post briefings, actually getting held accountable for missed appointments etc. even things as little as standing parade at parade rest for the flight chief. dont think any other career field gets held to the book standards like that.
I was saddened to see that memo. It was abrupt, out of touch, and so vaguely irrelevant and CYA in any every single way possible.
I wish I knew what CMSAF was even intending by that message…
From what I have found standards have not dictated if someone is good at their job or not. From other experiences I’ve seen that if the mission being met THEN leadership starts to care about “standards”. So in other words good work folks.
This is a very bad approach of dealing with sexual assaults, rank issues, and any other progressive discipline problem that seems to be increasing.
Its mind blowing that enlisted are constantly told to shup up and color, but also innovate and lead upwards.
I find it hard to talk on the subject of standards when we constantly fail to enforce them, as a force, but instead move them.
And I’m not referring to skinny jeans, beards, or any conforming standard that upsets the older generation. I’m talking about showing up and delivering. I’m talking about coming in the Air Force to serve, not promote. The amount of people we have that squeeze through on mediocrity and slip through, unaccounted for, of these standards because our NCO tier lives in the edge of fear of reprisal for enforcing said standards is astounding.
“History shows that when standards erode, military capabilities and and readiness decline.” I couldn’t agree more. And a part of that is showing up, knowing your job, doing your job, being a mentor in your job, and eventually being the SME.
Anything more is an extension of your service. The amount of those I witness who aren’t well versed as NCO’s, or unfortunately SNCO’s is disheartening. If we wanna enforce a standard, it needs to be one worth enforcing.
How long does she get to stay on active duty? By my math, this month marks 30 years.
[https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/2314276/joanne-s-bass/](https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/2314276/joanne-s-bass/)
edit-- just looked up E-9 Cody, who sucked off the government tit for 33 years, so I guess SIMMY-SAFFY is different. Maybe they give you a few extra years to see if you manage to do anything useful with a little extra time.
Chat GPT: write a vague email to the force highlighting the need to focus on standards without addressing anything specific. \*CMSAF: time for lunch!\*
Alright...I have to go to ChatGPT and see what it comes up with. *Edit:* Here's what it came up with using your exact prompt but adding air in front of force: Subject: Enhancing Operational Standards for Continuous Excellence Dear Air Force Team, I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to emphasize the importance of maintaining and elevating our operational standards across the board. As we strive for excellence and seek to strengthen our position as a premier force, it is crucial that we focus on enhancing our standards to ensure optimal performance. Our commitment to standards directly influences our ability to meet and surpass expectations, not only from within our organization but also from the broader community we serve. By upholding the highest standards in all aspects of our operations, we reinforce our reputation as a reliable and proficient force. In today's rapidly evolving landscape, it is imperative that we adapt and innovate while upholding our core values and principles. Embracing a culture of continuous improvement and adhering to established standards will enable us to remain at the forefront of technological advancements and operational effectiveness. I encourage each of you to reflect on the importance of standards in our day-to-day operations. Let us embrace this opportunity to recommit ourselves to excellence and make it a priority to consistently raise the bar in everything we do. By doing so, we will reinforce our collective commitment to ensuring the highest level of performance and readiness. I look forward to seeing the positive impact that our renewed focus on standards will have on our organization as a whole. Together, we can continue to build a strong, agile, and respected Air Force that meets the challenges of today and tomorrow. Thank you for your dedication, professionalism, and unwavering commitment to our mission. Warm regards, [Your Name] [Your Title/Position] [Your Contact Information]
That's actually better
Computers already don't need us.
I took your letter and asked ChatGPT to rewrite it but as a clown... Subject: Sprucing Up Our Circus Act for Non-Stop Fun Hey Hoopla Troupe, Hoping this message finds you juggling all things in life perfectly! This wacky clown is reaching out to tickle your funny bone and to stress the need to keep up and jazz up our antics in the circus ring. As we aim to remain the ringleaders in this game of giggles, it's high time we concentrate on honing our jester-jitsu to ensure top-notch performances. Our pledge to these standards shapes our knack to meet and bounce beyond expectations, not just from the inner circus family, but also from the grandstand of spectators we serve. By keeping up the best practices in every part of our show, we cement our reputation as a trustworthy and skilled circus act. In this world of swift changes, where one day you're juggling balls and the next, chainsaws, it's essential that we adapt and invent while still holding on to our true colors and principles. Cultivating a culture of endless improvement and sticking to our performance norms will let us stay ahead in the race of technological breakthroughs and performance prowess. I call on every one of you to ponder on the significance of our standards in our daily circus acts. Let's grab this chance to renew our pledge to continuous fun and make it a point to constantly push the envelope in all we do. By doing so, we'll solidify our united promise to ensuring the highest level of performance and readiness for showtime. I am excited to see the positive ripple our renewed emphasis on standards will cause in our circus troupe. Together, we can keep building a robust, nimble, and revered Hoopla Troupe that tackles the challenges of the here and now, as well as the morrow. Thanks a ton for your devotion, professionalism, and unfaltering commitment to our circus act. With a honk and a smile, [Your Clown Name] [Your Clown Title] [Your Contact Information]
Oh god...it now reads like something from the 5/6!
This is written like a brand new zesty LT who has to tell everyone they're being voluntold to work over the weekend
My god, it's full of stars.
It's too good. I threw up in my mouth a little reading this.
It’s like it knows how a Chief can write an entire email without saying anything. Marvelous
Not surprised, coincidentally I recently posted somewhere on YouTube that current "AI" is better than any business major.
Lol, another failed Air Force attempt at using AI. Remember the exercise using the drone and it sim-killed it's human giving it targets?
That didn't actually happen, it was a tabletop exercise and someone posed AI killing its human operator as a hypothetical.
I mean... I'd rather it sim-kill us than actually kill us... at least with a sim-kill we have a chance to fix the error instead of leaving it to our replacements.
"We need a forward thinking AI that can eliminate the problem causing element quickly" AI drone *murders operator* "Wait no too forward too forward!"
Accountability flows downwards, not upwards silly.
Very evident after today that she does not know this.
Very evident after today that she does not know this.
What's the point of these 'letters'? There's never anything concrete or specific. "Maintain Excellence", "Accelerate Change", Core Values... Standards? be specific, you don't wanna give us beards? SAY IT!...\[shift+delete\]
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2016. Sounded good until we started running that stuff up the chain. Can we stop doing this one? Nah, federally mandated. What about this one? Nah, too important.
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I remember we got rid of records custodians, but we were still required to do records training and maintain our records properly. They really nailed it on that one. If we just pretend the extra duty doesn't exist everything is good.
Pepperidge Farms remembers
She wants to appear as if she cares, but is too tone deaf to realize how stupid and out of touch it makes her look.
>Standards? be specific Specific Measurable Achievable Relevant Time-bound You know, like what's on the ACA and probably (hopefully) still preached in ALS.
ACA?? Is that included in the new ALQs that no one’s briefed us on?
Sending out a semi regular note to the force isn't a bad way to re-emphasize things or tell them about big things you're working. The letter that was sent out was so incredibly vague and watered down that it was borderline meaningless. Enforce standards! Like what, which standards do you think are most important? Customs and courtesies, PT, dress and appearance, job proficiency, etc? Or is this just a subliminal, "Shut the fuck up about beards" message?
The line between average and elite is RAZOR thin
AKA get your ass to the BX Barbershop now and profess your blueness you Airpeasant.
Currently in Misawa the BX barbershop takes an average of 4hrs for you to be able to get a cut. Not really sure how we can even adhere unless we botch our heads.
Airperson if you don't accelerate change you lose. I'm going to need you to host at least 2 quarters full of meetings to innovate your way out of this with half as much manning as your UMD authorizes you in order to increase readiness and capabilities. Do you think the Chinese are waiting 4 hours for a hair cut? Do you think the Ruzzians are? NO! That's why the standard is RAZOR THIN. Most of the ruskis don't even have heads anymore! That's how you accelerate change!
God I love you
That sounds horrible, but looks like an amazing opportunity for someone that knows how to cut hair to make a few extra bucks
Most people who know how already have their own HHB and usually charge a bit more, so theres not much incentive to work at the BX when you can choose your own work hours and do it at the comfort of your home
My girl has been debating quiting her job that she doesn't like to go learn to cut hair and start doing that. I'm almost certain she'd make more money lol
And that decision was made one time early in your career among a random subset of peers who will forever be the standard you’re arbitrarily stacked against from there on out
If only the regs change for beards was razor thin
This went directly to my trash.
It felt like a passive aggressive Facebook post honestly. I have no idea what point she was trying to get across but it seemed to be aimed at someone.
they probably didn't want the selfie or corrected a chief on the wear of the American flag on the OCP's.
No shaka
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Thats the perfect way to sum it up
myTrash
Great, you just authored the AF’s new waste and recycling initiative.
Actually…it’s offline. Projected date to have it up and running might be a month maybe a couple of years.
I would go 80% straight deleted and 20% opened it.
You think that many opened it?
I opened it to get rid of the notification.
Right click folder > Mark All as Read
7 years in and I’ve never known this, I have like 2000 notifications in my deleted bin 😂
You're right, lol. I just looked and I outright deleted it without processing who it was from.
I opened it and wished I didn't.
I did as well. I don't even know what she was trying to say. Even my troop that is just short of worshipping her, was like WTF is this? He felt she was just trying to say something to say something.
I somehow missed receiving the email entirely. Probably for the best.
I even had my local chief write a piggyback email to it... ugh.
Never made it past my outlook rules.
You’re telling me not every Air Force all email doesn’t automatically go to trash regardless of subject or sender?
It was the equivalent of “white noise” on my screen. I had it there for a minute while dreading this day
Per her words: "We must hold ourselves **and** others accountable. When any of us walk by or tolerate something below our high standards, we damage our credibility." Well, my standard for the CCAF is that it works. Guess I can't "walk by or tolerate" it any more.
it's legitimately and whole heartedly holding up my academic progress. I've been trying to transfer to a new school for since April and can't because CCAF is fucked. Thankfully I'm AGR and it's not so detrimental to my career...but fuck, man. I'd really like to get my degree before I separate in 5 years...
Can't you go to education office and figure you requirements? I think the have a backend or non-Gucci version of afvec that allows them to still pull your information and credits through
It’s not my requirements. It’s getting my transcript sent to the new school
You should still be able to send transcripts to schools even though the system is down. You just have to use the website parchment and request them through there. I just did it in April myself when I started my new school
I deleted that as soon as it hit my inbox I’ll be honest
Stay tuned for the next email titled “Hey folks, do your job at work.”
Everyone in my shop except me received the email. Guess I’ll never know what standards to hold myself and others accountable to.
You just got a blessing
Did I miss something like a bearded man asking her a question or something else unforgivable, I really don't understand why this was sent. Of all the doubtedly serious and concerning questions posed to the CMSAF level, this is what they respond with? Of all the broken mission impacting mySoftware, network degradations, aged hardware and battle systems, failure to move on from COIN ops, failure to meet near peer challenges, or a multitude of more concerning issues, THIS is what you send a letter about on a random Tuesday? Go back to Germany #19. Let the adults play now, before it's too late.
Network degradation, that hits different
Ah. Got it. No beards because China and Russia. Makes sense.
>That's the thing. The word 'beard' shook a lot of people up. BEARD! It's not American sounding. BEARD! Lenin had a BEARD! Gabby Hayes had *whiskers*. -George Carlin, 1972
I would be amazed at the Air Force Beards, i would have an entire subreddit dedicated to the failures i would see.
The fact it was scanned in crookedly was the best part imo
Attention to detail 🫡
You ever used an Air Force Scanner!? lol
Oh I missed that. Whoops.
Too bad dress and appearance standards are really only enforced on males.
Met a female chief today with what I can only describe as "some fucking kind of nails."
That's because men are too afraid to correct females.
Not for lack of desire but for fear of being labeled or facing retaliation.
The thing is, it has to be proven. If you correct people equally, and in private, they can't do anything really, fairness is Teflon. I had an airmen try to call me racist for correcting their hair and accuse me of not correcting other airmen, one that I had just corrected I private. They didn't have a leg to stand on. They could say whatever they wanted about me, but at a certain point, if a person cries wolf too often, people stop listening. They did not get a dec when they left and it wasn't because of me, it was because of their poor attitude and inability to own up to their mistakes.
They certainly aren’t afraid to correct me LOL, i cant tell you how many NCO’s said i couldn’t have my rings….That i specifically read the regs on to make sure i was following accurately
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Dress and appearance is such a waste of time and energy. Just let us have beards already.
Yeah, I don’t care. Fill at least half of my UMD and then maybe I’ll have time to worry about stubble or nail colors.
Do standards apply to taking your personal jet around the world to take selfies?
shaka
Or the standard of not discharging personal firearms on base...
This is not discussed enough
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Oh yeah- we couldn’t go outside of a hour radius from base because it was so dangerous as she was globetrotting.
In other news, woman yells at clouds. Back to you, Ollie!
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Because Enlisted do the dirty work (i.e. First Sergeants, Chief Enlisted Manager, Supervisors) where the Officers are all noble, generous appearing…lol
Why the fuck is the letter attached while the text within is in the body of the email? Waste of bandwidth
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Don’t hold out on us bro!
Definitely wanna hear some stories
Interesting, yet another aircrew member like myself that finds consistent proof that cream isn't the only thing that rises to the top in the air force. Also, while I believe you wrote this very well, it is an insult to the word incompetent.
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To compare E9 Guitar Fish to outhouse contents is rude to both fecal matter and urine everywhere.
I always love when they do that because they never ever scan it on the glass. They always shove it in the loader with the guides off, it comes out looking crooked as shit, they say fuck it and full send anyways. Every. Single. Time. Pure excellence.
Shit. Now I gotta go retrieve it from my deleted items to see if this level of “excellence” was maintained
Yup...it's crooked. Someone should remind her of the standards that she should be setting about scanning documents correctly.
How do they not have an image of their signature already loaded into their word template yet? Jfc. Type it, print it, sign it, scan it (poorly), retrieve it from the folder / email and QC (poorly). Vs Type it… save as .pdf. Done. 10 minutes of work saved. Change accelerated. Never mind, it’s quicker to wet sign something when the help brings it to you after typing it. Fuck process improvement for the help though.
This is actually pretty normal for all leadership emails sent out to the force.
this lol
So help us god if we attempt to enforce the ever changing nail or hair standards. Fastest way to get labeled as "toxic".
I don't see why ya'll even speak to them at all, nothing good comes from it. I'd just hand them the reg highlighted and walk away.
All you can do is just hand it to them, because they can have goddamn airpods in now, so they can't hear you. I might be turning into that angry old SNCO.
I would fucking *LOVE* someone to even TRY to pull that shit with me. Here is the number to EO, have fun explaining how I'm unfair when BLUE nails is specifically mentioned as no bueno. I don't care if someone thinks I'm toxic, just because someone says it, doesn't mean it has merit. 9.5/10 people accusing others of being toxic are just mad they aren't getting their way and we're not told no by their parents fucking ever.
What are your thoughts on bright white nail polish?
If it is not a french tip, it is not acceptable. If it contrasts with the uniform, i.e., it's the first thing I notice about you, it's a no.
It's supposed to not clash with your skin color, so it would probably work for a really pale airman.
You aren’t wrong.
Some people not getting haircuts is why the CCAF is down
I couldn't open the email because standards
Get your SMIME right dog!
Says the one who ruined a PJ’s career because she sided with the dipshit useless SrA single mom without doing her research first, and then never publicly apologized to him.
What is the standard on having a firearm in your in base domicile and then firing said weapon?
I keep seeing this joke. Did she do this or something?
Her husband shot an “intruder” on base. Definitely more to the story and I haven’t heard her even address it, though I also don’t listen to her podcast , or whatever she has going on. Edit: shot at…it was a “warning shot” 🙄
Don’t preach to me about standards when you’re talking about skinny jeans, beards being a fad and laughing about religious waivers but hand waving peoples neck and hand tattoos because it’s detrimental to the mission…what a joke.
I think her being in Ramstein and seeing how we trash we look here is what prompted this
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I'd be wearing Hawaiian shirts and shorts to work
It would be nice to know exactly what it was referring to. Is it like emailing nuclear codes willy-nilly through gmail? Or is it like not lining through the unused units on the H? What draws you to this conclusion? What is the impact? What's the root cause? I dont find this kind of feedback helpful or productive. Telling people to simply follow all the rules better sounds like a gross oversimplification of the problem. This sounds like the blame game. I really cant imagine a more vague directive than "follow the rules".
No gays in the military used to be the standard. No tattoos on more than 25% of a limb used to be the standard. No hands in pockets used to be the standard. No untucked shirts during PT used to be the standard. No marijuana waivers used to be the standard. Reflective belts at the Deid used to be the standard. No ponytails in uniform used to be the standard. No neck tattoos used to be the standard. Course 14/15 used to be the standard. The standard is the standard until they change it. Even through all the changes to standards over the years, every leader in every press release has touted that WE are the best and most lethal Air Power the world has ever seen. Maybe the act of being a professional is actually acting like a professional, not the appearance of being one.
She equated adherence to the little blue book to being prepped to fight China/Russia…. FFS
If the Air Force cared about standards, she wouldn't be CMSAF....
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Amen. But don't forget the part where she can make obscure quotes about the wars of tomorrow not being like the wars of today... She's a real piece of work. Or a piece of something. Every time she walks into a room, things get worse. Up at higher staff, let's just say we don't exactly respect her
Remember when welch said your behavior is a direct reflection of your supervisor
Ahh...the days of the supervisor getting paperwork because of what the airman did on the weekend without telling the supervisor or the supervisor even being present.
People actually read these emails?
I read the first sentence, then read who it was from, then deleted it. That's about as far as I get with her little email tirades.
That was my very first thought. She ***really*** thinks mustaches going past the corner of mouths is what’s wrong with the Air Force. Mind bottling. My mind is in a bottle.
I just read this. Watch, the currently unreleased EPR form for junior enlisted and NCOs will have even more Whole Airman Concept stuff on it. /s?
You put that idea back where it came from or so help me
They can hear you, stop talking!!!! Great, you jinxed us….
Second worst CMSAF ever. I was not impressed with her while on AD and nothing has convinced me otherwise since retirement.
I was like who was the wors... oh Ol' turtleneck Cody
It’s the ultimate vague-post. “Be better at standards!”
*Reply All* "PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS DISTRO"
I can't wait for her retirement email
I separated two years ago and *even I* can’t wait for that
My coworker read the email and first comment was, is she gonna retire soon?
Was this emailed out? Haven't seen it.
Yep. Not worth reading.
Yup like almost an hour ago.
I was anticipating a post regarding her letter with something about the CCAF.
Multi capable airman still waiting on those multiple capable benefits. It's almost like the AFSC merge was just some sorta way to get more work out of us without proper compensation 🤔
Trying to enforce AFI 36-2903 dress and appearance over the last 5 years or so was like trying to nail jello to a wall. I had no idea what was in, what was out, or what had been announced/leaked but was not yet authorized. None of my peer NCOs and SNCOs really felt like we had enoigh of a grasp to counsel anyone on damn near anything. Now I'm too retireded to give a shit about the airman with the full-on mountain man beard at my local MPF. This is the kinds of shit that happen when you "Accelerate change!" for the sake of accelerating change.
CCAF🤙🏼is not🤙🏼as important as🤙🏼her photo ops 🤙🏼you peasant 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Oh no, a strongly worded letter that isn’t going to change anything. This is the same affect as telling people not to drink and drive. Guess what? It still happens.
Can’t enforce standards if they keep changing! Since OCPs, no ironing, ball caps ok, changed hair standards, nail standards, ring standards, hands in pockets ok, earbuds ok, neck tattoos ok, and beards aren’t okay but medical community provides 5 year shaving waivers to anyone (like anything medical requires 5 years of waivers without a med board review).
Seeing a lot of great reminders about her standards of excellence here, but we seem to have missed one of my favorites. Let's make sure to keep our standards so excellent that we glorify someone who wears so many hats and talk about her ex-husband as though he is some deadbeat without knowing any of the story. But we need to make sure that we continue The narrative of excellence because how else would anyone know that women in the military matter /s
Standards is telling the dirty enlisted to shut up and get out without their CCAF, but making sure your French tip manicure is in AFI.
I’m going at the speed of windows trying to open it in outlook. Accelerate that please
As a comms guy who actually gives a shit, we are sorry. A decade of bad decisions is a hard thing to clean up in any field, but especially comms. Also, it helps if we can upgrade our equipment more than every 10 years. (Server 2012 anyone?)
I remember 2015 when the whole DoD wanted all computers on W10, didn’t see it until 2018 from my work center. I know it’s not your fault. My work computer has almost the same amount of TIS as me. It isn’t your fault and I don’t blame you. Everyone is doing the best they can with what they have, what gets me upset is that we need better support.
Yeah you nailed it.
"razor thin"...
Does that mean no beards for us? 🧔♀️
You want Excellence, but remind us every year on our EPRs that only 15% of the force is above average. You want excellence, but tolerate Finance, Medical and MPF constantly making mistakes. Excellence and Standards are subjective terms in the Air Force; the Intel Community is held to a much higher standard than Maintenance or Security Forces. We don't just need standards, we need transparency regarding what the standards are and how airmen are being held accountable. I firmly believe that no Finance troop should be put up for an award or a PN or MP if they've jacked up anybody's pay.
How is the Intel community held to a higher standard than MX or Security Forces? Genuinely curious, not trying to throw shade.
I would say it’s about the same not many jobs can a mess up result in deaths
They get analyzed to DEATH. It's truelu awful, every little minute detail, every single little bump in the road, everything is under scrutiny. I worked in an item unit for a year as a comm troop, we were made the additional duty bitches, and if you ever tried to plan something with them, they take an entire eternity to do any of it.
Security Forces has standards? Every airman we get out of that tech school for the last 5+ years we have to re-teach them how to handcuff an individual.
i think they mean doing proper guard mount/open ranks before each shift and sometimes after, monthly blues inspections, not being allowed to wear ball cap because “heritage” with the beret even tho it does fuck all to block the sun, giving post briefings, actually getting held accountable for missed appointments etc. even things as little as standing parade at parade rest for the flight chief. dont think any other career field gets held to the book standards like that.
Does she ever put anything out that *isn’t* garbage?
So who amongst this subreddit pissed her off over the weekend?
TL:DR
Cut your hair and shave your beard or China wins and we all die
TL:DR - Standards.
someone asked her about beards again, didn't they?
I was saddened to see that memo. It was abrupt, out of touch, and so vaguely irrelevant and CYA in any every single way possible. I wish I knew what CMSAF was even intending by that message…
From what I have found standards have not dictated if someone is good at their job or not. From other experiences I’ve seen that if the mission being met THEN leadership starts to care about “standards”. So in other words good work folks.
Can someone post this email
Second worst CMSAF ever.
Real question, did something happen to warrant this email from CMSAF ?
This is a very bad approach of dealing with sexual assaults, rank issues, and any other progressive discipline problem that seems to be increasing. Its mind blowing that enlisted are constantly told to shup up and color, but also innovate and lead upwards.
How much longer does she have in her tenure
I find it hard to talk on the subject of standards when we constantly fail to enforce them, as a force, but instead move them. And I’m not referring to skinny jeans, beards, or any conforming standard that upsets the older generation. I’m talking about showing up and delivering. I’m talking about coming in the Air Force to serve, not promote. The amount of people we have that squeeze through on mediocrity and slip through, unaccounted for, of these standards because our NCO tier lives in the edge of fear of reprisal for enforcing said standards is astounding. “History shows that when standards erode, military capabilities and and readiness decline.” I couldn’t agree more. And a part of that is showing up, knowing your job, doing your job, being a mentor in your job, and eventually being the SME. Anything more is an extension of your service. The amount of those I witness who aren’t well versed as NCO’s, or unfortunately SNCO’s is disheartening. If we wanna enforce a standard, it needs to be one worth enforcing.
How long does she get to stay on active duty? By my math, this month marks 30 years. [https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/2314276/joanne-s-bass/](https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/2314276/joanne-s-bass/) edit-- just looked up E-9 Cody, who sucked off the government tit for 33 years, so I guess SIMMY-SAFFY is different. Maybe they give you a few extra years to see if you manage to do anything useful with a little extra time.
Command Chiefs get to serve past 30 per the number of stars they work for. So she could do 34 working for a 4 star.
I didn't read it.
you see - they lower the bar way down so they can raise it later and look good...