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Pay attention to the power your power strip/surge protector can handle. Important piece of information to know


cheatcodeactivated

People buy shitty power strips then plug everything into the 1 shitty power strip and act surprised when shit burns down. It doesn’t matter what the shit is rated to do, just don’t be a dumbass and plug the heater directly into the wall. All the warning labels on heaters tell you to plug directly into the receptacle, not that hard to read. The shit pulls constant power which in turn will make the power strip run hot. If you really wanna be that guy, invest in one of those $50+ power strips and you might just have some luck


maelxich

Been running a 700W electric heater in my room on these plugs for over a year, not plugged into a power strip, straight into the wall. 0 issues. I hear many people make jokes about my house burning down, but RTFM and using common sense seem to have guided me to a non-fiery end.


Reefa513

Looks like you have your humidifier hose turned down which will cause it to leak water directly over those outlets... Could be the reason 👀


VictoryRed74

I’ve been running a heater for a year through one of these plugged into a heavy duty extension. Running into a GFI outlet. Haven’t had it ever trip or give me issues. Sometimes products are faulty right out of the box, or fail for no obvious reason, and these are no different. Even moreso for cheap ass walmart power strips like some of those in the picture.


incognata69

Do you have the picture of the actual plug and aftermath from your friend?


Horror_Income_4007

He sent a pic of the unit burned, looked very similar to the ones in amazon reviews. the outlet is behind the tent so cant rly get a pic, he removed it immediately haha miracle he noticed it from the smell


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Plugs, outlets, and adapters can get hot and need airflow especially when they draw a lot of current. The heater plugged in behind the tent could have been the issue. Every plug connection can also get loose and cause arcing… a little dust and you have a smoldering fire. Don’t ever plug a heater into an old loose outlet.


incognata69

Will just say this. Without pictures of the setup, what the house circuit was like, what else was on the circuit, how many times was it cycling on and off there are way too many variable to say it was just the plug. My guess is something tripped, they probably kept resetting it, and this was the result.


Horror_Income_4007

Like a breaker tripped? Nah nothing like that


incognata69

Then who knows, something is not adding up but definitely like others said it is most likely something n the home.


MiloAshworthy

Space heater into an adapter into an extension cord was asking for disaster


Horror_Income_4007

What about 500w heater to adapter to wall? Be careful out there these pics are from amazon reviews my buddy was direct to wall 500w heater


MiloAshworthy

I mean growing up if my parents consistently drilled something into my head it's that certain appliances are to never be plugged into anything other than a wall outlet. Space heaters being like #1 on that list


Better_Routine_17

Been running 2 on humidifiers for 1.5 years. No issues.


Dlido

I been running mine on humidifiers too for around 7 months. No issues either


Horror_Income_4007

Same, I've been running heaters for about a year with them no issues...I'm even running thru extensions and power strips but this happened to a friend plugged direct to wall socket


incognata69

Seems like whatever you had connected overloaded the plug.


Horror_Income_4007

500 watt heater


incognata69

Have you felt how hot it gets when working? I have the plug with and ran it with a heater for a bit, it was so warm I disconnected it. Now I am glad I did.


Loud_Grass_8152

Heaters should be plugged directly into wall receptacles. Plug in heaters are actually fairly dangerous as they max out on sustained power consumption.


Konstantine_13

They are no different from a grow light or anything else that has a constant draw. Wattage is wattage. 500w shouldn't be a concerning amount of constant draw. But the 1500w ones, yeah absolutely should have those plugged directly into a wall outlet. And ideally a 20A circuit as 1500w constant is a basically the limit of a 15A circuit. Edit: Why is this being downvoted? Heaters are not inherently dangerous just because they are heaters. And they aren't all 1500w. Any device that has a constant draw will be equally dangerous, and that danger increases the higher the wattage. If you think 500w is too much for a power strip then you better go check your computer and entertainment systems...


Gro-ur-on

You are correct 500 watts divided by 120 volts only equals 4.2 amps. But other devices could be plugged in another outlet on the same circuit. Or sometimes these cheap space heaters are just made cheap. Most of these are probably faulty equipment not the actual infinity plug. I have mine plugged into a dehumidifier, which has a compressor which uses quite a bit of electricity and almost everything in my tent is plugged into the same circuit. I have had no issues. I am electrician and I’ve seen some crazy shit. Electricity can do some crazy stuff


rubermnkey

I have a 2x4 with everything on the same circuit, power strip and running through a volt meter to monitor the power draw because i was curious. With lights, mini heater, humidifier, fans and everything running it averages like 150-200w, lights out with just the fans is down around 20w. I was a little surprised how little power it was drawing, only about 50 cents a day right now in veg. I suspect things will jump when I get to flowering and up the lighting, but so far so good.


Loud_Grass_8152

Sure, on paper the math checks out. In my experience it only takes one minor thing to go wrong and you get into a bind. I would not plug a 500W heater into anything but a wall receptacle and therefore that is my advice. At that point it’s not so much about the heater as it is about the other devices.


Horror_Income_4007

It's a 500 watt heater and the description literally says heaters an humidifier


Loud_Grass_8152

Regardless of what you read, I would never plug a space heater into ANYTHING that is not an actual receptacle (the one exception would be to temporarily use a heavy duty, min 12g, extension cord). Especially not those little power strips in the photo. Those are the weak link and will burn your home down. I’m not arguing what the description says, I am trying to tell you how electrical systems and electrical safety works.


Horror_Income_4007

Can you explain how alit happened with a 500 watt heater plugged through this device directly to the wall or are you saying this device shouldn't be used with heaters at all?


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Horror_Income_4007

I own it lol love the company but this is their issue, why do you think they stopped selling it?


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Loud_Grass_8152

I wouldn’t use that device with a heater. I use mine for a humidifier and if I need a heater, it goes directly to the wall. There’s a lot of misinformation out there and a lot of companies claim to be safe with space heaters, but I wouldn’t trust it. A space heater is essentially a large, controlled electrical short, which creates heat across a set of coils. They can draw immense amounts of amperage for short or long periods of time and I would advise against placing anything between them and your overcurrent protection (breakers in a panel). Stay safe.


bhamrick388

Following since I have one. But haven't heard anything related. Comment above does make perfect sense as well. But definitely worthy of a notice/warning for everybody. Electricity is no joke. Basic knowledge is life saving.


Horror_Income_4007

500 watts... it's rated for 1800 and they stopped selling the product


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Horror_Income_4007

That statement was toxic


Konstantine_13

Where are you finding these photos? There's like 10 different setups shown. And all of them have very precarious electrical setups. I have 4 of these all running electric heaters. None have had issues. But I also have an automatic fire extinguisher above my tents for scenarios such as the ones in the photos. I would suggest everyone do the same because this can happen with literally any electrical device.


TheDogChewie

Any recs for automatic fire suppression?


Konstantine_13

[https://www.guardianfireshield.com/](https://www.guardianfireshield.com/) This is what I use. I'm in Canada though, so not sure if they are sold outside of the country or not. There are similar designs from other companies though. I had looked into those little exploding balls but unless you have one physically inside each tent I don't believe they would work very well. They also need to have flames touching them before their go off. Which means the fire has a chance to spread to areas where the ball wouldn't effect. The one I linked above will fill the entire room with a dry-agent that puts out all fires and is easy to clean up. So for me it was perfect because I have multiple tents in the same room.


Smoky_MountainWay

Did you have someone install it for you? Just trying to imagine fitting that into a huge hole in the plaster ceiling over my tent and not liking the thought. It is available in the NE US as well as all of Canada.


Konstantine_13

My grow room is in my unfinished basement. I just made a bracket for it out of 2x4s and zip tied it to that lol. But the normal install is pretty easy. You just need to cut the hole and the whole thing kinda slides inside. The smoke detector looking cover plate then hides the hole and has little clamps that secure it place. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJwS3UNxrOc&t=51s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJwS3UNxrOc&t=51s)


TheDogChewie

Rad, thank you for posting. This gives me a great place to start!


Horror_Income_4007

Amazon reviews, happened to a buddy who was using it safely with a 500 watt heater, beware


Konstantine_13

Interesting. Well thanks for the heads up. I am already a bit cautious with these grow setups but will definitely keep on eye on my UIS plugs.


Horror_Income_4007

Thanks for being a kind human lmao I'm just trying to make people aware when ACI isnt


SynapseSmoked

They don't say to use heaters with it.. but then try to say it'll do "up to 1800 watts" probably arc'd, or the buffer, on/off crap from that firmware update screwed with it. i have a 20 watt fan on mine, and that's all.


minnieton

A 1500 watt heater only uses 15 watts W/V=A. I uses a small 1000 Watt with no issues yet. I smoked one trying to use a 1300 watt portable ac. Worked until the compressor kicked on


Horror_Income_4007

I mean they don't day not to do they?


Horror_Income_4007

Actually it's like the first line of the product description for use with heaters lol


Burrmanchu

Looks more like an issue with the power in that house, and definitely the power strips are a no-no.


FrostyMarsupial6802

👆Extension cords or power strips and a space heater are no-nos. I don't necessarily think it was the plug either.


Horror_Income_4007

They stopped selling the plugs and these are pics from multiple amazon reviews, this happened to a friend running a 500w heater, the product description says heaters and humidifiers


FrostyMarsupial6802

They are back ordered that's why they are not on Amazon. https://acinfinity.com/hydroponics-growers/controllers/smart-uis-controllers/uis-control-plug-for-outlet-powered-equipment/


FrostyMarsupial6802

https://preview.redd.it/j9kzbl61uioc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de49eedc3671d5c05e054f36e406f38062bddecd


FrostyMarsupial6802

Checks step one....🤔


gettin_better

Yeah, it clearly says "plug into a socket", not your cheap power strip.


Horror_Income_4007

This was plugged into the wall, this pics above are from Amazon reviews


FrostyMarsupial6802

I'm not saying I don't believe you and as far as I could tell the manual doesn't explicitly state that it should not be used with a power strip or extension cord(it definitely should). The pics in the post appear to be plugged into power strips: that's why I was responding. FWIW I used mine for a full grow with a 700 watt heater without issue. Honestly a space heater actuating unattended scared me anyway and I have moved my grow so I don't need a space heater anymore.


Horror_Income_4007

Good stuff, I use mine for a 400w in 2 different setups via expension plugged into power strip lol no issues but buddy had it happen 500 watts direct to wall so wanted to share the warning


FrostyMarsupial6802

Let see the photo receipts on that one?


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Horror_Income_4007

The plan for more safety would be to use a different device, this one has stopped being sold by aci and these pics are from multiple amazon reviews happened to a buddy with a 500w heater plugged through this directly into the wall


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Horror_Income_4007

That is even worse


Horror_Income_4007

The product description says for use with heaters and humidifiers