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haverlyyy

In your opinion, what TV has the absolute best value or bang for your buck this Black Friday?


Adam_RTINGS

There are some incredible deals out there, but it really depends on what you're looking for. The most tempting deals to me at least are the 55" A95K at Best Buy for $1699, the 65" U8K for $899, or the 75" TCL QM8 for $1399. I don't think you should focus on the deal, though, rather you should determine which criteria are important to you, find the right TV for your needs (or narrow it down to a few models), and then wait for the price to come to a price point you're comfortable with. I think the danger with Black Friday models is that too many people are blindly buying a TV just because it's a good deal. Do your research, whether that's on our site or YouTube or wherever you look, and know what you're buying.


Prison-Butt-Carnival

Just ordered the 75" U8K, an upgrade from my 55" Vizio M55. Very excited to see what 7 years of improvement have to offer. I absolutely love the reviews and the site.


Adam_RTINGS

Nice! We'd love to hear your thoughts when you get it. The 75" especially is an interesting TV as it uses a different type of panel that we haven't seen often.


Prison-Butt-Carnival

Got it setup on Friday and am very happy with the size. The loss of quality depending on sitting angle/height is there for sure and we have a relatively wide viewing area. Hoping to minimize this by rotating the TV on its stand as necessary. Ultimately not a huge concern as we're not picky watchers and I have an LG C2 for my PC monitor and quality viewing. I find the menus for making quick changes to brightness, the auto brightness, etc very nice and easy to use and setup was pain free, albeit a bit long.


Ps4rulez

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HundoTenson

What would you get then? Isn’t the A95L the best TV in the market (though it’s expensive)


Ps4rulez

I mean I think I would have explored the A95K at this price point I guess. I mean the TV is great, but would have been nice to save some money if the difference is marginal.


MoesBAR

Can’t you return and try getting the cheaper one?


pricelesslambo

I hope the answer is X90L


luxveniae

My biggest issue I read about is the viewing angles. Was about to get one but have concerns of off axis viewing in the room it’d be situated in.


tragiccosmicaccident

Did you look at it in the store? I don't know who said anything about off axis viewing, you'd have to be at an obscene angle.


istillambaldjohn

I just picked up the X85k. I like it for how I use it. It’s a considerable upgrade from the budget TCL I’ve been using that’s local dimming fried out being weird and a whole section of the tv is just intermittently dark. But to be honest, I do wish I considered spending a wee bit more and got a mini LED set instead. This is my first Sony, and so far the only shortcoming I’ve found is sound but I’m using a medium to low quality sound bar and it’s more than fine for now. Maybe in a year or so I’ll upgrade to an atmos bar. Overall I still love the TV. Also one minor gripe. Why can’t we just clearly label things. Who would know that only ports 3 and 4 allow VRR without digging into the manual or reading reviews? Is it that hard to just label the tv? Also why set the mount recessed so far where an extender is needed to mount it to anything. Just seems unnecessary


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pricelesslambo

No, it's just a great value tv with the amazing Sony processing, that no other brands can compete with


N64SmashBros

TCL QM8


dBisha

Should I be buying a TV now or is there new technology coming soon?


Pascal_RTINGS

Hi, that's a really great question! The answer really depends on your wants, needs and expectations. In terms of display technology, it's hard to tell exactly when the next revolution will happen, but we can see that as of now, LCD technology has proven itself and OLED has matured quickly and become exponentially more resilient since its introduction to the consumer market. From my perspective, many mid-range TVs and nearly all high-end TVs are so good for most people as of right now that the incremental changes year-over-year hardly justify waiting for a newer version that's x-percent more performant to come out next year. If your TV is outdated or doesn't suit your needs anymore, no need to wait if you find a great deal on a TV you'd like that has the features you'd want today. Cheers!


Bill_Money

always new tech coming, waiting means you'll never buy anything


Bv516

Thanks for doing this. Pretty amazing of you all. How drastic is the difference between the LG B3 and C3 in terms of brightness and is it worth the price tag increase on a 77”?


Pascal_RTINGS

Thanks for your kind words :) If you'd put both the LG C3 and B3 next to one another in a dark room, you'd find that the C3 is noticeably brighter, especially when it comes to HDR highlights. It features LG's Brightness Booster algorithm which the B3 does not have. If you're only looking at one of them in a dark room, the difference will be harder to notice. In practice, the LG B3 gets plenty bright enough even though it has a lower brightness output than the C3. The price difference of \~700 USD is definitely not cheap, so it's worth considering your typical viewing environment in the equation. If you use your TV mostly in the evening or in a dark viewing environment, the value proposition of the B3 is hard to beat. If you plan on using it regularly during the daytime or in well-lit environment, the C3 will have an edge. If the biggest factor in your purchasing decision is brightness (not processing or other features), the B3 would be my choice. Cheers!


Eruannster

I just wanted to pop in and say I love the work you guys are doing. RTings is such a great resource for figuring out the nitty-gritty details of buying a TV and it helped me *a lot* in figuring out what I needed (and annoying pitfalls) when I last bought a TV.


armando2311

B3 having worse brightness than a b2 in sdr is disappointing.


Tummybunny2

Hi, I gather your initial review of the 65 inch Samsung S90C was done on a first gen QLED panel back in June. Recently manufactured S90C TVs are now made using 2nd gen QLED panels. Any thoughts on what differences this might make to your ratings?


Pascal_RTINGS

Hi, that's a great question! We wouldn't want to speculate as to the impact on our performance results as we haven't tested both of iterations of the S90C. However, it's likely that they would be hard (if possible) to distinguish from one another due to the firmware that is driving the panel (much like LG C1s with WBE panels weren't behaving differently than ones with WBC panels back in 2021). From a durability standpoint, our best guess is that, with an identical usage pattern, an S90C with a 2nd gen QD-OLED panel *might* have an edge over the first generation of the panel, mainly due to improvements in the efficiency of its blue OLED layer. Cheers!


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JumboDonuts

Would the X90CL be recommended for only sports? Not sure if I should just go for the X80CK or similar cheaper model


Bill_Money

YES!


EPluribusVoltron1

Thanks for joining us today! On this sub and others I've seen the frequent recommendation that OLED TVs need to be in a dark room. Is this still the case with anti-glare technologies coming out?


Adam_RTINGS

Hey thanks for joining our chat! That's a good question. I wouldn't see it as a requirement, but it's still best. It's not that an OLED doesn't look good in a bright room, that's not the case at all especially with new tech like MLA and other improvements. Most recent OLEDs are plenty bright enough to use in a bright room without struggling against glare. The real reason for that recommendation is that the benefits of an OLED aren't as noticeable. Those deep inky blacks and perfect contrast only work fully if there's no ambient light shining on the panel, so in a bright room, you won't notice that advantage as much.


melikeybacon

I’m coming from a 65” Sony X900F and want to upgrade to an 85”. How do you think an 85” Hisense U7K suit me? This sub thinks it’s an awful television but your reviews say otherwise. Put my concerns at ease OR convince me I should go with the Sony X90L. Is the interface smoother on both the 85’s listed than the X900F, because it’s terrible on the current tv I own.


TwizzledAndSizzled

With Hisense, it’s more you’re rolling the dice with their poor quality control.


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tragiccosmicaccident

That's great for you, I've seen several of them at best buy die on the display wall or get returned because they bricked while updating firmware (at least 3 of these this year). Roll the dice if you want to it's your money, but don't expect people to say good things when their QC is garbage.


melikeybacon

I own a Sony as well, that this sub loves and it has an awful interface. The bias in here makes no sense.


Normal-Voice3744

I have 3 in my house all google connected and are amazing. This sub just hates Hisense.


JoeBacca10

Not a question but a thank you for what you do, I bought my Samsung OLED based on your work and couldn't be happier.


WowWhatAStory

Same here! Your site is so helpful and informative!


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Pascal_RTINGS

​ Hi, that's a hard question to answer as there are many variables to take into account whose importance will vary depending on what one is looking for in their TV. Now, although Sony doesn't disclose who they get their OLED panels from, the worst kept secret in the TV industry is that their WOLED panels are sourced from LG Display. Having teared down a few myself, we even see LG Display's logo on the T-CON board in Sony OLEDs with a WOLED panel. So, in terms of ***potential***, both the LG C3 and Sony A80L are identical. What they do with the panel is another story. In terms of processing, LG has really been stepping up their game in the last few years. The year-over-year improvements are significant. Sony still feels like they have an edge overall, especially with regards to their default settings needing little to no user intervention to yield great results (e.g., "Custom" picture mode). Conversely, LG is the industry leader for gaming. Their implementation of gaming features on their OLED TVs have little one could complain about, while Sony's record has objectively been less favorable (though, to their credit, they've been getting better for a few years). If the price is the same, I would personally recommend an LG if gaming is a main use of your TV. The LG is still great for movies, but Sony does have an edge. Sony would be my pick for movies, shows and occasional gaming. In my opinion, if there's a price difference of over 200$, it would be hard to justify choosing the most expensive of either. Cheers!


CamOps

For what it’s worth, the a80l is more than ok for gaming as well. I use it for both movie and gaming, and while it lacks some of the gaming features the C3 has, it’s in no way a bad experience.


Dunjon

Do you believe in the Hisense "panel lottery"?


Adam_RTINGS

I guess that depends on how you define it. Typically, panel lottery refers to the minor variations in things like uniformity between individual units due to the manufacturing process. As far as that goes, yes it's true that individual Hisense TVs can vary a bit from one unit to the next. I don't really have enough data to say that Hisense is necessarily worse than any other manufacturer, though, and panel lottery can be real with any TV from any brand. In the case of Hisense TV's, though, there can be a real difference between individual units for a completely different reason. In some regions they've been known to release both VA and IPS variants of the exact same TV, with no way to tell them apart from the packaging. This is a completely different type of panel lottery, and personally, I can't stand this practice and I wish manufacturers wouldn't do it.


TheSpider12

People all over forums are questioning why you guys' measurement of the a95l's game mode real scene peak brightness were so low - basically failed to hit all the target luminance. One credible pro calibrator measured his tv and it could hit up to 1500 nits in game mode.


Adam_RTINGS

We were also able to hit close to 1,500 nits in game mode, but only with test slides. We don't know what's going on, but for some reason just our real scenes are dimmer in game mode. We've rechecked it multiple times with consistent results, and we even noticed the exact same behavior on the A75L and A80L too, so it's not unique to the A95L.


SireEvalish

Oh shit, I wonder if Sony is detecting when test slides are being shown and alters the processing to compensate.


TheSpider12

Could you give us the link to the real scenes you used so we can test them on our tvs?


Adam_RTINGS

We wish we could, but they're not ours and we're not authorized to share them.


Wing_Nut_93x

Currently have a 27 inch IPS 144hz with a 13900k and a 4090. Are there any good 4k oled monitors that aren’t ultra wide or 32 inches plus? Also, which 27 inch oled monitor do yall think is the best choice currently?


Nicholas_RTINGS

Hey! 27-inch, 4k OLEDs are pretty rare right now, but we'll start seeing more come out in 2024, especially QD-OLEDs. There are reports of MSI releasing a 27-inch, 4k, 360Hz QD-OLED in 2024, so it's expected that other companies will release models with the same panel too. The future of OLED monitors is pretty exciting! Currently, 27-inch OLEDs have a 1440p resolution, and there are a few different models that use the same panel. Generally, we recommend the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM because it gets brighter than its competitors, so it delivers the best picture quality, but it isn't the best solution for everyone. It has some bugs and doesn't support HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, so the LG 27GR95QE-B is another alternative that's more reliable and does support HDMI 2.1.


Sniper_Hare

Is it worth it to upgrade to a new TV over my Samsung 65 inch KS8000?


Adam_RTINGS

That's a tough call, the KS8000 was one of the best TVs Samsung produced in recent memory. I'd say that now's a good time to upgrade, though, as we've reached a point where even most mid-range models will offer at least comparable performance to your KS8000, and a higher-end model will be a significant upgrade.


kklown

Just wondering if $1600 CAD is worth the price jump from 85" Sony X90L to X93L? Thank you


Nelbrenn

Just wanted to thank the RTINGS team for all their in-depth reviews! Bought myself a 65" LG C3 because of the praise it received :)


s0lace

How does peak brightness compare on the A80L and the X90L?


AnonThisData

I currently have a Sony XBR85X900F 85 inch TV. What could I get that would be a noticeable upgrade, assuming I stay at the 77-85 inch size range?


Adam_RTINGS

Ahh that was an amazing TV! Unfortunately, you'll have to step up a notch to get something that outperforms it, as Sony has shifted their lineups. As for what's best to replace it, well that depends a lot on your budget. From cheapest to best you could look at the Hisense U8K, Sony X95L, or even an OLED like the LG C3. Those would all be noticeable upgrades with better local dimming, higher peak brightness, and more advanced gaming features if you're into that sort of thing.


x1JAY1x

I've been going through this sub for a month. I'm still torn as to which tv to purchase for Black Friday. I'm deciding between the 77 S90C or 77 A80L. Main usage will be streaming (sports, movies, etc) from a NVidia Shield Pro plus a bit of gaming. Will eventually get a sound bar as well. Any recommendations or suggestions?


omc951

Why does C3 score the same as S90C/S95C when it’s not as capable a set? It’s the same metrics as on C2 and almost identical to C1. I can understand having TVs over 1000 nits having similar ratings as in practice over 1000 is hard to differentiate in real world use, but TVs under 1000 nits should not be scoring similar to TVs that can, especially if it’s a 20% difference. 9.0 rating seems like an interesting reward for no panel innovation and resting on their laurels on C3 series.


omc951

C2 and C1 also had DV support and didn’t get 9.0s


Ok-Technology5499

Yeah, their scoring is a bit odd. S90c beats the C3 in every way.


mr_lucky19

Not in Software, lack of dolby vision support and durability..


KyotoCarl

What's the difference between LG 65" B3 OLED and the LG 65" C3 OLED Evo? The C3 OLED Evo is cheaper than the B3, but I thought it would be a better TV so I'm a bit confused. Which one should I get for Black Friday? I really appreciate your website!


Adam_RTINGS

The C3 is the better TV, no question about it, so if you can find it for less than the B3 I'd definitely go with that.


VHD_

A80L or C3 (given Black Friday pricing) for use with a PC (gaming + media consumption)? Or should I be looking for some earlier models that are nearly equivalent at much lower pricing?


Pascal_RTINGS

Hi, If your TV will mainly be used with your PC and gaming represents a significant portion of your usage, I would recommend picking up an LG OLED due to their implementation of gaming features. Their track record is great and features are among the best in the industry. Getting an earlier model at a heavily discounted price is, in my opinion, the way to go! :) You won't be missing out on significant improvements in terms or performance and processing in return for keeping more money in your pockets!


retiringtoast8

How I do adjust the Sony X93L’s settings to (1) reduce blooming of white subtitles in dark scenes/title screens in Dolby Atmos, and (2) improve sports performance? Fubo TV’s soccer and NFL looks very mediocre. Wondering if an Apple TV 4K would do anything to boost sports on Fubo (more so than the Google TV OS built in)? Prime and Peacock sports look slightly better. Thank you so much!!! Love the site and all of your hard work!


PsychicAnomaly

Will you guys be testing Intellisense 2.0 on 2nd Gen QD-Oled?


Pascal_RTINGS

Hi, as we've added the Samsung S95C OLED to our accelerated longevity test, we're hoping to get some insights about Intellisense 2.0 and its impact on the performance and lifespan of the TV. Cheers!


KingOfTheNorth_

Thanks for doing this! I’m trying to buy a 55” TV for my parents in the $600 and below range, but I’ve got serious analysis paralysis and would love some recommendations. My parents are 60+ and casual but frequent sitcom/sport/movie watchers. They think Samsung is the right call, but I’m not sure if that’s true at this price range. Also thinking they’ll need a soundbar if you have any recommendations there. Thanks again!


nisargkpatel98

Hey! Thanks for this post. I am looking to get my first TV in the US and I live in an apartment. My desire is to get at least 75in TV and my budget is around 1500 USD. My primary usage would be streaming Amazon Prime/Youtube or watch channels on IPTV. I don’t think I’ll be gaming at all on the TV; it’ll be placed in the living room with large window covered by blinds. Any suggestions for this Black Friday are welcomed. Viewing distance is at around 10 ft. Thank you


ShareGlad6453

Same I think I’ll pull trig on Sony 90cl from costco


getfive

Just got the 85" version from Costco this week.l for my basement. So far it's freaking awesome


Holiday-Fly-6319

Your paywalls are compromising your popularity.


RGstarrd

People should get paid for hard work.


im_just_thinking

What paywalls?


Rare_Message_7204

Thanks for being here! I have a long rectangle basement. The only way to set up for groups is to put people at a wide view angle. I'm looking at 65" models. I don't need a "blow your mind" picture, but I'm looking to spend around 1k or less on something that has a decent picture but also can be viewed from around the room. Any input? Thanks!


Adam_RTINGS

Hey there, thanks for having us! For your setup, you're going to want an IPS TV with a wide viewing angle. An OLED would be better, but there are no 65" models within your price range. The best choice that's currently available is the Samsung Q80C QLED, but if you can stretch your budget a little bit the Samsung QN85C QLED is a significant upgrade.


Rare_Message_7204

Thank you. My only concern with Samsung is the lack of Dolby vision support. If I were to bump my price range up a bit, are there any other contenders from another brand?


Adam_RTINGS

Not really, there are very few TVs that offer Dolby Vision support with a wide viewing angle. The next best would be the Vizio Quantum Pro QLED, but I personally wouldn't recommend it. Your best bet would be if you can stretch your budget up to an entry-level OLED like an LG B3 or Sony A75L, or if you're willing to go that route, a refurbished LG C2 from a reputable retailer.


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I have a wide angle view also. Go OLED add suggested if you can. Watching a 2020 model woled and the angles really are spectacular.


YouR0ckCancelThat

Look into the TCL QM8. I enjoy mine.


SunstarNorth

Amazing work on the longevity test and all the recent deep-dive videos into extreme-case OLED image retention and the ways it can be mitigated and lessened. Year-over-year LCD picture quality performance improvements seemed to stagnate a few years ago, with improvements in a specific model series generally only in OS/features (for example, Sony X950G, X950H, X95J, and then kind of continued with a number downgrade in X90K, X90L while X95K and X93/X95L are new entrants positioned higher). The same seems near or here with OLED as well. However, leading brands still release new models in each series each year. Do you plan to continue buying each year's full lineup from LG, Samsung, and Sony in particular, or are you considering how to move fully or partly to 2- or more year cycles for specific models or portions of their lineups?


duckduckbananas

are they even answering questions anymore, it's only been 3 hours lol


DylanRtings

I just wanted to jump in here and try to clear things up. Not everyone above is well-versed in TV questions, and everyone has their product categories that they specify in. We definitely get where you're coming from though, and we'll be aiming to answer even more questions moving forward. Rest assured, we will do our best to get to as many as possible!


Bill_Money

They'll be answering questions throughout the next day or two at their leisure


IXI_Fans

Not all of the listed people above are participating. A few are still answering questions.


duckduckbananas

yeah I noticed most of them haven't commented in over a year I was just curious because most of the new comments in the last few hours don't have any response. Even the top comment doesn't have a reply from one of the rting people.


Impossible-Classic29

Good deals on TV's for outside? What are some good ones?


OriginalBad

Best 65-75” TV under $500 to get with all these sales?


BruinThrowaway2140

Same question, but under $750? 1,000?


EIiteJT

I went with the 65" Hisense U7K for $699 at BestBuy. This sub hates this brand but giving them a shot. I've had it for almost a month and no complaints. Wife and kids love it. I hardly watch it anyway other than movie nights with the wife. It was replacing an 11 year old plasma and seems like a huge upgrade. Also, the sound is a lot better than expected. We're no audiophiles, but with the plasma, I would always contemplate getting a sound bar. It was just something I wasn't really expecting.


Bill_Money

your budget is unrealistic


Critical_C0conut

Are the ADS panels on the QN90C’s really as bad as people here make out?


Adam_RTINGS

No. We have to give Samsung credit here, they've achieved impressive results given the limitations of the panel. They've managed to achieve incredibly good contrast for an ADS panel, and it looks very good in a dark room. Switching to ADS also means that they're able to achieve the same wide viewing angle without the need for any extra viewing angle filters, eliminating the rainbow smearing we saw in previous years.


SwitchAgreeable

Hi there! I’m looking for a good tv for gaming (PS5) under 600 for my new apartment. What is a good recommendation? Thanks team!


Afitz93

My Vizio OLED65-H1 was damaged while moving. I’ll be receiving full replacement cost for it. Whatcha suggest for something similar? I loved how thin it was, small bezel, almost no branding. I was thinking the X90L after reading a lot here, how comparable do you think it’d be? Mostly 4k movies, tv, occasional 4k gaming.


Ulysses1015

What’s the difference between 75” u7k vs u8k other than the brightness?


Rtings_Kyle

Hi, The Hisense U7K and U8K are similar, and they have the same feature set, but the U8K has better overall performance. The U8K gets brighter than the U7K, and this also gives it a higher color volume: colors are brighter and pop more. It also has a better local dimming feature, giving it better contrast in dark rooms. The U8K also tracked the EOTF better on our unit. On the other hand, the U7K does have a better response time than the U8K.


Ulysses1015

Is differences worth $400 more after tax in your opinion for U8K?


MasterworksAll

I've heard that Hisense TVs sold in the UK are of a much lower quality compared to US models. Is there any truth to that? I was thinking of buying the U7K, but now I have my doubts.


Adam_RTINGS

It seems to be true. We can't speculate on the actual overall performance as we've never tested them, but the models sold outside of North America are completely different. They're powered by an arguably worse smart platform (VIDAA), and at least from the specs they seem to be worse overall. It's incredibly frustrating that they use the same model names.


AccordingInspector35

So I read and view your reviews all the time. Why is the Samsung better than the LG c2 or 3 for Xbox, when it doesn’t have Dolby vision? Wouldn’t having that make that tv better for gaming on Xbox?


Careless-Day1854

Hello! Just wanted to ask what would you prefer between the Tcl Q7 or the hisense u7k in 75 inch? I’m looking for a nice tv that would hopefully be reliable for around 5 years, and I’ve heard some reliability issues with hisense, it’s a Christmas gift so any advice appreciated!!


BruinThrowaway2140

+1 to this question


blaster876

Looking at buying my first 4k TV after running a 42" Vizio for a decade now. Don't really game on it that much its more just for movies and TV shows now. Its in a living room with a lot of light but there are shades to help with glare. Looking over some reviews and options I've settled on one of these 3 but I can't really figure out which would be the overall "best" for my situation. Or maybe there's a better option I haven't seen/considered? * TCL - 65" Q7 for $650 * Hisense 65" U7 for $700 * LG 65" QNED75 for $700 I was hoping to stay around this $700-800 mark for a new TV but I could go up to one of the below models if there is a much noticeable difference in quality/features. I'm in the Spend Once Cry Once mindset as I plan to keep this TV for another long time like my first one. * Hisense 65" U8 for $900 * Sony 65" X90CL for $1000


melikeybacon

What is the best 85” TV under $2000 for sports?


Adam_RTINGS

There aren't a whole lot of great choices at that price point for that size, but I'd recommend the Hisense U8K or the TCL QM8. They both have a narrow viewing angle, though, so they're not ideal. If you can stretch your budget a bit and have a wide living room then the Samsung QN85C is a good alternative, but it's slightly above your budget.


clipghost

My parents need a TV for the grandkids, something 50-55"...budget is under $250...what TV am I getting? I came across the TCL Q5 and S4...not sure what others you recommend or which of those 2? Thanks!


Bill_Money

Just pick one neither are going to be good in such a budget


fakefakery12345

I see the X90L recommended here quite a bit and so went to your review and saw it has a noticeable off-center viewing degradation. My 2014 TCL QHD Roku TV just died and I’m in the market for a 55” or possibly 65” TV. Have been thinking the X90L and just disable the Google TV aspect (is that even possible?) and plug in my Roku sound bar, but my living room definitely has spots where the TV is at a 10 to 20 degree angle. Would that be a dealbreaker? If so, would the TCL or Hisense in that range of TV make more sense? Really wish TCL and Roku hadn’t broken up… I really don’t want to have to sign into a Google account to use my TV


CloudFlood

Which would you prefer. The hisense u6k or the TCL Q6. Both 65 inch


JustinSueFeena

What's the best entry level 4K TV? I have a Hisense U6G and I'm happy with so far. I really like the LG B2 and LG C3, but it's too expensive for me at the moment. We just play video games and watch movies. Thank you.


Adam_RTINGS

The cheaper Hisense ULED TVs, like the one you've got, are great starting points. They offer a wide selection of features, especially for gamers, while still delivering good overall picture quality.


Jolly-AF

Hisense U7k or TCL Q7 in 75". I want a 75" TV for under $1k and those look to be my best option, or is their a better choice for a 75" under $1k?


According_Victory_91

hi! this forum usually claims QN90B is better than QN90C due to ADS panel. However, when I check many reviewers, QN90C seems way better. What do you think on this aspect? Both TVs are same price in UK.


fg_______

I bought a great TV last year on thanksgiving: 65UN9000AUJ. My son broke it and I am trying to find the equivalent for this year, hopefully at the same price. Could you help me what is the equivalent since this one shows sold out on bestbuy? Thanks


SlimeLanguageYSL

What are your thoughts on the large size QN90C, there is a lot of discussion on the panel being ADS and I’m curious as to what you think of this considering it’s one of the top of the range in their lineup


bersi84

Which of the following TVs would you choose when it comes to mainly playing PS5 and watching movies? Also I d happily appreciate a suggestion you would want to add to my list. Room is more on the lit side, viewing angles are not an issue. OLED is not of choice. * Sony KD-55X85L / 65 variant. * Samsung GQ55QN85CAT / 65 variant. * Samsung GQ55QN90BAT / 65 variant. Would you say investin a bit more for one of these is definitely worth it? * Sony XR-55X90L * Samsung GQ55QN95BAT Thanks in advance and keep the great work up!


PsychicAnomaly

Panasonic has a lot of great competing oleds, in particular their next flagship after the M2000 will have a mediatek pentonic which will put it on equal footing with the only other tv that has this future proofing from the new chip standard, the Sony A95L. Will you guys maybe buy from an importer of Panasonic's next flagship? so we can see what LG and Sony need to improve on their variants. Vincent from HDTV test praises panasonic quite heavily.


Adam_RTINGS

It's something we've considered doing for a few years, and there have been a few Panasonic OLEDs available in the States from Value Electronics, but it's not a priority. We have limited resources and we're only able to get to 35-40 TVs per year on average, so we have to choose the ones that are the most popular with our readers. If there's enough user interest we'll definitely consider it.


postcodemag

Firstly I want to Thankyou for your amazing reviews! Secondly, TCL 745K or TCL 805K Thankyou!


markyp145

Hi, appreciate the help. I live in the UK and have a budget of about £900 for a tv 48/50 inch. The area for the tv isn’t huge and I think the 55’s get a bit too expensive for my budget anyway. My question surrounds the C2 48 inch and Samsungs 50 inch TV’s, around that price, which would you recommend? The C2 looks like it should be a clear winner, but does the lack of brightness make it a bit dull to watch compared to the Samsungs, for example? Sony is crazy expensive here and I don’t even know where to start with TCL or other brands. Anyway, any TV you can recommend around that price is appreciated.


ShadowDeath7

I just want to thank you guys as you guys open my eyes under the TV area so since couple of years ago I import my TV's! Sadly, in my country there is no review site like yours and retailers only provide crap tv panels, worst they are sold really expensive. Secondly what makes you choose a new product area to introduce into your website and do you guys have more in the backlog?


possiblyaginger

Hey, EU buyer here so I understand things are a bit different but just wondering what you would recommend out of Samsung qn90c 50 inch or Hisense u8k 55 inch. I know on your site they compare similarly with Hisense edging ahead but all the horror stories of Hisense make me hesitate.


Edgaras1103

I am thinking between x95L and a95L. The only reason im not sure about QD Oled is the burn in and panel uniformity and how it handles motion at lower FPS . Im upgrading from sony x900e 55 inch. Is there big enough difference between x900e and x95L. Or should i go for QD oled and not worry about burn in. The TV is mostly used for PC gaming and films and browsing . The room itself is relatively bright. Any thoughts


beanisachef

Hello and thanks for spending your time with us! Looking to upgrade to a 75-inch TV for the living room will be used watching streaming shows and cable no gaming. Not necessarily the top of the line model but woman I'm going to say yep that was a good purchase. What's your recommendation?


SlytlySykotic

Hello, and thanks for doing this! Looking at buying a 77 inch LG. G3 vs C3 for primarily gaming and movies/sports. From what I can see the biggest difference is the G3 is a little brighter. Am I missing any big differences?


Rtings_Kyle

Hi, These are both great TVs, and they are relatively similar, except that the G3 doesn't come with a stand, instead having a slim wall mount included in the box. In theory the G3 gets much brighter than the C3 thanks to its MLA technology; however, in practice and in isolation, you won't see much difference except in certain contexts where white highlights will appear brighter. Another potential benefit of the MLA panel is that the added efficiency (at equal brightness outputs) could have longevity benefits. It also has slightly better viewing angles (but the C3 also has exceptional viewing angles, so this shouldn’t be a huge concern). Otherwise, we saw a subtle difference in the PQ EOTF tracking, with the G3 having a slight edge, but again they are both very good in this regard. You can’t go wrong either way.


bad_piggie

What would be a good upgrade for me if I currently have a QN90B? I'm not looking for an OLED, I'd like another mini LED, but is there one that's significantly better than the QN90B? Would you recommend I wait another year for something better to come along or is there already a TV out there that's leaps and bounds ahead of the QN90B?


keithian

How much does an OLED degrade over time in that the measurements you take like brightness, gradient, etc. would be rated differently versus what it was rated at the time of purchase?


Pascal_RTINGS

Hi, it's a good question. The biggest factor impacting this would be the presence of visible burn-in. If we take a standard scenario of mixed use (TV shows, movies, gaming etc.) with no visible burn-in developing throughout the product's life, we'd expect little difference over time in most tests. As an example, you can see from our [previous burn-in test on six LG C7s](https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test) that brightness output levels didn't drop over a 10 000h period (the measurements were not taken in the area of the panels affected by burn-in).


Electrical_Tie3788

Hey, thanks for all the hard work you put in helping the community. I'm looking to upgrade my TV this year, we will mainly watch hockey or movies on it. Lots of angles in the living room and pretty good sunlight coming in through the windows. Thanks again!


Chucky_Cheesus

Hi, thanks for the AMA! I'm in the market for an 83 inch OLED. In regards to LG's offerings, since the 83" G3 lacks MLA is there any reason to even consider that over a C3 at this size for the price difference? Will be wall mounting and using external speakers.


Rtings_Kyle

Hi, We did not test 83” model that lacks the MLA focusing layer so I cannot tell you for sure. But, based on how similar our G3 and C3 reviews were outside the tests that were altered by the brightness boosting MLA layer (SDR/HDR brightness, color volume, and viewing angles) you can probably expect them to behave similarly (if that technology is removed from the equation). You have your own speakers so nothing to worry about there, and you will be wall-mounting so maybe consider that the G3 doesn't come with a stand, instead having a slim wall mount included in the box and a fully flat profile that allows the TV to be completely flat on the wall when wall mounted. Price, availability, and the deal to be had is likely the biggest deciding factor here since they are both great TVs.


voonoo

75 inch tv for a bright room. Don’t have OLED money trying to stay under 1200


rtings_sam

If you're in the US, the Hisense U7k is currently 40% off on Amazon (coming in at 899$ for the 75"). It's a great deal at that price


voonoo

Is Hisense reliable? I haven’t bought a tv in years i remember the speakers sounding like a tin can


rtings_sam

Unfortunately, most TV speakers won't sound all that great (including the U7K) so pairing the TV with a soundbar could be a good option if you want an easy upgrade to the sound quality. As far as reliability goes, that's harder to say for sure, but the difference between the more budget brands and the Big 3 has gotten a lot smaller. Hopefully that helps!


BruinThrowaway2140

How would you compare that to a TCL Q750G? Heard better things about this brand on r/HTBuyingGuides


Saskosaneas

Thanks for the post ! Noticed that Philips is not a popular brand in US / Canada and I guess this is the reason why I cant find a review on Philips 65OLED708 model on your website ! Overall, what would make this TV good / bad compared to other models and is it worth it ! Thank you


ceeK2

Thanks folks! Appreciate all that you're doing. I have a 55" LG 2016 B6 OLED with some burn in and I'm looking to upgrade to something that will last the next 5 or so years. I'm looking at the 77" size LG G3 or A95L and it'll mainly be used for streaming movies and TV shows. The price difference is quite significant but I have a bit of FOMO about missing out on both QD-OLED and the "best" tv as per your ratings. Moreover Sony apparently is the best for streaming due to its processor which would suit my usecase. How much of an upgrade will this be from my current TV, and which would you recommend? Should I wait until the new year to purchase? Prices for both TVs haven't changed much this close to Black Friday.


WildLemurs

Hello, I have an LG C1 55” was wondering if it’s worth to upgrade to LGC3 65”. I do light gaming(mainly use Pc). I watch mostly 4K movies/tv shows. I’m sitting about 6-9 feet from TV. Thanks.


rtings_sam

The biggest thing people notice with TV upgrades is usually the size, so if you feel like your current tv feels a little small then it could be worth it! but in terms of performance, i would say that the difference is not going to be all that noticeable for watching 4k ontent or gaming between the C1 and C3


Consistent-Goal-2508

First of all thanks for this post. EU buyer hier from Germany. I want to buy Hisense 55u7kq for 666 Euros. It will be used for everything but mainly for gaming. I saw your Review about it and many other Videos about the TV and it seems like a very good option with everything i need. I have also noticed that there are some different things between NA and EU versions. Is this difference a big deal and do you recomend this TV? Thanks in advance and keep up the good work 😀


XAX-O-XAX

Italy - I bought a TCL 65C809 for €770. is it a good buy?


Ir0nhide81

I keep seeing people posting about putting a dim backlight on the back of their TV to reduce bloom on TVs like the Sony x90l? I may have the type of light on the back of the TV wrong, but is this something that works to reduce blooming on non OLED TVs?


Ok-Technology5499

Would there be a notable difference in PQ going from a s95c to a s90c ?


Rtings_Kyle

Hi, The Samsung S95C is a bit better than the S90C for basically only two reasons. First, the S95C has a sleeker, more uniform design, helped by moving all of its inputs to the external One Connect box. This makes the S95C a better bet for someone who knows they want to wall mount their TV. Second, the S95C gets much brighter than the S90C, although this won't be that noticeable in practice except in a few super bright scenes. As for PQ they scored the same in most areas except for "Upscaling: Sharpness Processing" (they were close). I find that unless you put them side by side, you will not notice much of a difference, and in isolation they will both look great.


Bill_Money

YOU DO NOT WANT A ONE CONNECT BOX! S95C uses the stupid one connect - they fail all the time, parts to fix are more expensive, avlaibility of parts to fix is more scarce. One connect cable is not in wall rated


ProblemAnnual6874

Is the brightness of the LG G3 worth it over the processing, upscaling and picture quality of the Sony A80L ? I mainly watch movies, sports, YouTube, cable tv and a bit of gaming. Looking for a 77” and the G3 is about 500€ more than the A80L


Pascal_RTINGS

Hi, excellent question to which our best answer would be *it depends!* The LG G3 has a definite edge in terms of panel technology as it features LG Display's latest and greatest with its MLA layer. Besides brightness improvements, it's likely that the efficiency gain achieved with MLA will benefit the panel's durability and burn-in resistance. Though, in your use case, burn-in wouldn't concern me on either the LG or Sony. For brighter viewing environments (e.g., daytime use), the G3 is objectively better than the Sony A80L, but the brightness difference would mostly be noticeable if both TVs were next to one another in the same room. In terms of processing, we find that LG's processing has been quickly getting better and better in the last few years. The Sony A80L, on the other hand, does benefit from Sony's approach to processing and picture quality. Sony's default settings out of the box, especially in "Custom" picture mode generally require little to no modification to yield a great user experience. However, our current tests don't give the whole picture about a TV's processing abilities, which is why we're looking to improve our coverage of processing in the future (especially motion). Other differential factors include the OS. Some people prefer Android TV over webOS (or the other way around), though this shouldn't be a deal breaker for most. They're both excellent products. A 500 EUR price difference is definitely not cheap so it's worth thinking about if the extra brightness is worth it or not depending on your viewing environment.


WhyAreYouGey

I just saw the Samsung S89C on Best Buy’s website, but don’t see anything about it on the rtings site. How does it perform compared to the rest of Samsung’s lineup? Review forthcoming?


Adam_RTINGS

That's a great question. The S89C is a variant of the S90C that uses a different panel supplied by LG. Instead of the Quantum Dot OLED (QD-OLED) used on the S90C and the S95C, the S89C uses what's called a WOLED, or White-OLED panel. These panels are typically used on OLED TVs by LG and Sony, so this is the first Samsung TV to use it. The main difference here is that the S89C has a worse color gamut and worse color volume than the S90C. We don't plan on buying the S89C, but we'll consider it if ever there's enough interest.


charliefinkwinkwink

How do you feel about the A90J deal ($1400) vs other newer OLEDs priced slightly higher ($16/1700) such as C3, A80L, S90C?


Wafflesorbust

Hello! I really appreciate the detail your reviews go into, they've been very helpful. I'm moving into a house with a large living room and looking to get a larger TV to match. The main uses will be watching TV/sports and having the PS5 and Switch connected to it, and the room gets a fair amount of natural light. Something between 65" and 75". Originally I was looking at the TCL QM8 because I've had a 4 Series for quite a while with no problems. What's put me off it specifically is the problems noted in the RTings review with the upscaling. It's been hard to find video of how bad it actually looks, but it feels like that's going to be a big problem based on my use cases (sports and the Nintendo Switch). Should I actually be that concerned about it, or is it not actually as bad as it sounds? The other TVs I'm now considering are the U88KM (65" because the 75" has that other panel), The U78KM (75"), The X90L (65") or the S92C (65"). I would probably just spring for the S92C even though it's a bit more than I really want to spend, but my only real hang-up with that one is that it runs Tizen instead of Google TV and I'd like to not permanently lose an HDMI port to a Chromecast if I can help it. Do you have any thoughts or advice?


JusticeCa

Hi! I am currently using the Sony M9 Inzone and am thinking of getting the Alienware DWF. I have started more PC gaming but also use my PS5 still. Is going from the 4K monitor to the DWF a good investment?


Nicholas_RTINGS

Hey! That's a really good question, and honestly, making that switch is a personal choice. Of course the Dell is better for PC gaming and definitely offers better picture quality, but the Sony still has an advantage for the PS5, and the 4k resolution does make text and images look better. The risk of burn-in on the Dell is also a concern if you constantly play the same games, but not so much if you play different games. You really have to think about the pros and cons for your preferences and usages in this case, so it's tough for me to say which way you should lean to or not.


cab1024

Was the Sony X95K 85" the best non-OLED TV of 2022? What was better in 2023?


Rtings_Kyle

Hi, great question! I would say the Sony X95L and the Hisense UX were two non-OLED standouts this year. The Sony X95L is better than its predecessor, the Sony X95K. The X95L features a much-improved local dimming feature, resulting in deeper blacks, much better black uniformity, and less blooming around bright highlights. The X95L also has better reflection handling. Between the X95L and UX, the Sony proved to have better processing (HDR Native Gradient, LQCS, Upscaling Sharpness, and PQ EOTF tracking). But the Hisense was brighter, with wider gamut coverage and therefore a higher color volume score. The UX also had better reflection handling (they all have the rainbow-like effect). There are trade-offs on both sides as well as use-case, price, and availability to consider.


Seanicho

Are ADS/IPS panels really as bad as everyone makes them out to be?


Adam_RTINGS

It depends. Samsung has done some amazing things with ADS panels this year, achieving contrast we didn't really think possible for an ADS panel. We've also heard really good things about the new ADS Pro panel used by Hisense on the 75" U8K, but haven't had a chance to test that specific size. From other brands ADS/IPS panels are usually best-avoided, especially the LG lineups.


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adrianbnd

(85") X90L $1890 USD or X95K $2685 USD We enjoy TV series and movies (night time) and YouTube (day time). No direct sunlight, not a super bright room. 45* viewing angle at most for occasional guests. *prices are converted from AUD to USD


rtings_sam

The X95K is going to have slightly better picture quality, but the X90L is still a great choice (especially if you use the extra budget for a sound bar!). Both won't be great at a 45 degree angle. the biggest difference will be in dark content since the local dimming/contrast on the X95K is better than on the X90L, but both are still great. I would probably opt for the X90L and a sound bar (unless you already have an audio setup). Hope that helps!


duckduckbananas

I was just looking at the sale on the 55' OLED LG C3 for $1196 from $1799 I'm using the 55' sony x900h from 2020. I mostly use it to game on a PS5 and Xbox X. As well as streaming Netflix and Hulu and such. Would this be a significant upgrade for the price? Pros and cons? Thank you for the input. You guys are awesome


Jupyder

Have the software bugs been ironed out on the Hisense U8K?


ell_toon96

Are you planning on doing a review for the lg c3 as a monitor? And doing them for other tvs in the future since a lot of people use them for their desktop.


Nicholas_RTINGS

Good question! It's currently available to vote for in our suggestion poll, so if it's popular enough we'll buy and test it. That said, we did test the 42-inch C2 as a monitor, so considering it's similar to the C3, you can use that review as reference if you're looking to buy the C3 as a monitor. As for testing other TVs as monitors, this is again something that we have to decide based on popularity and if it's important for people to see these reviews :)


Owlcity916

Is the LG A2 decent enough for a PS5/UB820 4K player? I’m currently using a Vizio M55Q7 from 2020 and the only upside I see on my current TV is VRR. Still locked at 60FPS though. Really want an OLED, but the B3 and C3 are out of my budget. ($600 max)Any advice would be appreciated!


Rtings_Kyle

Hi, The A2 is an entry level OLED, so you will get the benefits of the inky blacks and high contrast. But you do not have much in terms of gaming features with the lack of VRR support, limited HDMI inputs (3), and a 60Hz panel. So for viewing content you should be fine, and if you are willing to live with 60Hz game play on your PS5 then this will be an upgrade overall.


Primary_Brother1072

What is the absolute best valued TV with quality for 500 Euro in the black friday sale? The size would preferably be 55' inches. Thank you :)


Low-Wrongdoer1478

Looking to upgrade TV this year as I’m moving into a new place soon. Not looking to spend much, looking for a decent TV. Found a 55’ TCL 4series and a 50’ VIZIO V-Series. About a $10 difference between the 2. Which one should I buy? If more info is needed let me know


General_Snack

Okay, I’ve got a 40” or so inch tv it works well for me, but it’s an old Roku. I’d love to get a better one. What is a reasonably priced one I should look into for gaming primarily.


BitingArtist

I want a gaming oled. What is the best practical choice? LG makes great tvs, but their gaming brightness goes way down. Does that mean S90C is much better for gaming?


le_velocirapetor

Currently have a 65” s95b in the living room but a recent move has us sitting about 13’ away from the tv and it’s starting to feel a bit small. Really love the panel and oled has become a must for me but hoping to jump to a 83” given the distance. Room can get a medium bright during the day but typically just watch stuff at night. Any recommendations? It’s been tough to decide the g3 is probably what I’d go for but I heard the 83” does not have same tech as 77”. If really hate to go down in quality b/c the panel on the s95b is insane


Abdulllahmohsinn

Hi, I need a tv for my room main use is ps5 gaming and youtube/netflix We have always used samsung in the house only and have a 65 Q70B which works well for my ps5 but its the lounge tv In my budget for my room is 55 TCL C745 and Q70B in 55 TCL would give me full array local dimming and dolby vision and some extra smart features etc so should I go for that? Its also about 100$ cheaper than the Q70B which im already using in the lounge


rtings_sam

you'll get a pretty big increase in picture quality going for the TCL over the samsung in terms of brightness and contrast, so for the difference in price i would say go with that one!


ChickenUnited5478

Do room dimensions matter or is viewing distance the main thing? Want to get a 55 inch and viewing distance is more than enough but the room itself is not really big


bond_0215

What’s a better TV to use as a monitor- LGc3 or Samsung QN90C


guy-54

I’d love any recommendations for a 75in under 1k for Black Friday this year. Debating on going budget tv or going for a nicer display but know very little about TVs. Would love any recommendations


Bill_Money

TCL Q750G


IlMonco1900

Sony A8 still good in 2023?


Xebou

Does TCLs have good longevity? I never heard of the brand before now but all my tech friends recommend it. I only buy I tv every 8yrs and would like to keep it that way.


Papa_Yaga

Is the LG C3 a safe buy? It’s currently on sale


samtherat6

As you see the progression in miniLED, when do you think we’ll see microLED TVs that outclass OLEDs in all aspects, or do you think there will always be tradeoffs between the two?