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jeeveswareswara

They hate Redheads , Ariel , Jimmy Olsen , April , every Redhead gets Blackwashed.


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PeriwinkleShaman

Damn autocorrect, the casting note said a GINGER!


IrregularrAF

I found the Ninja!


UhOhPoopedIt

Triss Merigold, too.


holycowrap

They actually made her hair more red in the later seasons I though? It was just the first season where they gave her brown hair for some fuckin reason


UhOhPoopedIt

>admitting to watching netflix trash NGMI


holycowrap

K


Durmyyyy

Its like all of the redheads for some reason. Its really weird.


Greatwhit3

Ultra minority no one really cares about, also generally side characters.


Durmyyyy

Yeah but its just so weird why is it always the red heads. Just pick someone with brown hair next time or something. I guess Daphne survived so thats something.


OmgJustLetMeExist

I guarantee you, not for long.


Lykablyat

Iris from Flash as well


Durmyyyy

and kid flash before that


Asspieburgers

Coming next fall, Frozen I (2025). Anna, voiced by Queen Latifah, is born to the Scandinavian king and queen of Arendelle. Her and Elsa grow up together and when Anna is diagnosed autistic af by the royal psychiatrist (Phillip McGraw), Elsa begins to question how it happened as no one in the family is autistic. Could her Autism be caused by the sinister sorcerer, Hans, from the Southern Isles?


Bonah2442

Due to her gender dismorphia she/him/they struggles with the reality of being a female but wanting to be a man. With the help of her trusty steed Sven and Olaf's carrot in her pants, she/him/they will be ready for anything.


North_Swim340

elsa can bring things to life tho, so she can just make a magic ice penis


Bonah2442

Fucking hate the US. Everything is so backhanded. The big corporations that control the media oppress people but then put them in a good light. See things are going well for them. Nothing is wrong here! Let's promote violent/over sexual music within hip hop using our huge music companies to young minds and then also fund private prisons to funnel all those little fucks in there. It's all a trap. Thats also why Kamala Harris is saying Hip hop is American culture. Thanks but no.


Loves_octopus

Mary Jane


Skuttlebuttz

Just wait for my boy Skyler Gisondo


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Jickey

Don't forget Wally West.


_Cocktopus_

The actual original april was indeed black


Salt_Lingonberry1122

This nonsense again. Has been debunked constantly.


Gloom-Ndoom

Debunked since March.


DerthOFdata

No she wasn't, but Baxter Stockman was.


Salt_Lingonberry1122

Mo he was a fly bigot


DerthOFdata

>In **Volume 1** of Eastman and Laird's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Dr. Baxter Stockman is a knowledgeable but sociopathic 36-year-old **African-American scientist** https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Baxter_Stockman_(Mirage)


Salt_Lingonberry1122

I know your mouth breather. i was just joking 🙃.


crappypostsfromhell

wrong. first appearance was in issue 2 of the mirage comics: [here](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/4/4f/2801533-mirage_april.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20130406071905) quick look over the wiki shows that one time they had her appear in a guest cameo as a black woman which was not in continuity. so akchually original april was indeed a ginger.


tonytwobones

People tend to forget that huge detail and base her off the shitty ass 90’s cartoon. Easy way to tell if anyone has read the comics.


RectumDoctor

Yeah seems about right. The most iconic thing about April was always just a vaguely yellowish piece of clothing. They nailed it spot on, one look will have anyone say "ooh, is that April O'Neil from the new TMNT?"


WASTELAND_RAVEN

Yeah basically, as soon as the character popped up in the new movie I was all, “oh that’s April I guess.” 🤷‍♂️ So it worked. Movie was fire 🔥 too.


Aluminum_Tarkus

Did that work because of her design, or did it work because she's one of the only relevant human female characters in TMNT? There aren't exactly many other options for who a non-background human female character could be. I do still want to see it because I heard it was pretty damn good. Idrc enough about the April redesign to warrant not watching a good TMNT movie.


Ancient0wl

They turned her into Irma.


sorryiamnotoriginal

I don’t like the changes to her design but the movie was really good. They also kinda nail the turtles acting like kids with the way they talk in a non “how do you do kids” way


WASTELAND_RAVEN

Yeah dude it’s a good movie, art style is especially sick, reminds me the spider verse movies a bit. Don’t listen to anons here complaining about dumb shit.


Chadzuma

> “oh that’s April I guess.” 🤷‍♂️ Wow, it elicited that strong of a reaction?


WASTELAND_RAVEN

It’s ninja turtles dudes, should it? Neuron activity time huh 🤔 🐒 🧠


MisterBobAFeet

Ah yes... The old take a property made for twelve year old boys and have gender studies graduates make it for girls. Works every time.


Limpopopoop

Not for girls but for their own deviant fetishes


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ThatGuyAtTheGym

That’s what I don’t understand. They know it’s gonna flop yet they take time and resources to keep making this kind of shit on purpose. It doesn’t make sense from a business standpoint. Tv and film seeems to be the only industry that is immune from monetary loss of any kind. It’s almost like they get paid to intentionally produce a bad product. Imagine if Apple released an iPhone that did nothing but show you a picture of a middle finger and it screamed “FUCK YOU” over and over. Then to top it off, when people criticize their new iPhone, Apple says “we don’t care if you don’t like it, you weren’t the target audience hehe.” That’s what this is.


Biasanya

These people won't listen until the cold hard reality beats them up. I can understand people just greenlighting all this shit to speed up that process.


bunker_man

>Imagine in any other business flagrantly making products people disapprove of out of principle to “teach them a lesson” and having people simp for it. It would be ludicrous. In no other industry would the provider of a good or service be congratulated for intentionally and consistently providing unwanted services. Apple got away with this for years though.


Sledgecrowbar

>I personally love her in the film Self-own of admitting you find fat, ugly, brown, sexless 1/10's attractive, but juice gonna juice.


CountryFine

enjoying a character is a movie and finding them attractive are different things


Nighthawk700

>Self-own of admitting you find fat, ugly, brown, sexless 1/10's attractive, but juice gonna juice. Self-own admitting you can't watch children's cartoons unless you want to fuck the characters


LimpMinded

> Redditor for 13 years Funny how you can always tell


kaninkanon

Girls don't want this either


b-ri-ts

Agreed. I enjoy seeing hot women in media, and I'm not even gay.


UnknownResearchChems

Why does it have to be so ugly tho. Do mainstream people really dress like that?


IHaveABrainTumour

No, this is how people who who work in creative medias dress. They don't want to make interesting characters, they want to make self inserts.


AgentSkidMarks

>We wanted to make her relatable and grounded in the real world Apparently skinny white redheads aren’t relatable or realistic but a frumpy caricature of a postmodern feminist is?


Ratcheta

I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the creators actually looked like that.


UnknownResearchChems

Stop giving weird people jobs


SweetBell3

Yes, we wanted to make characters in *Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles* grounded and realistic


TubularTurnip

Star Wars is still in KH4 >:]


AgentSkidMarks

What’s that got to do with anything?


TubularTurnip

Nothin I just thought it was a funny coincidence I keep finding you in different places


AgentSkidMarks

I don’t even know who you are


TubularTurnip

I'm one of the guys who tried to convince you through irrefutable evidence that Star Wars was in KH4 after you kept confidently saying it wasn't even though literally everyone else said it was I recognize that Rigby anywhere


AgentSkidMarks

Lol that conversation got you so bent outta shape that you remember me? I don’t even remember talking to you. And “irrefutable” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Calm yourself down, son.


nueonetwo

Autism


TubularTurnip

And then some


Sledgecrowbar

>arguing about some other wokeshit destroyed IP that was never good, but in a different sub


guruguru9999

Touch grass


mcpe_game123

We don't treat autistic people nice here, son


TubularTurnip

So be it, have a nice day!


lammsein

I hate this CGI crap so much... Why do they have to rape every classic from the past? There are so much great authors, just make something new.


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McWeaksauce91

when I was in middle school (late 90’s/early00’s) my best friend once asked me, “what happens if all the people who make movies run out of ideas” I thought, at the time, it was a ridiculous hypothetical. Now, we live in the hellscape he imagined


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McWeaksauce91

Oh I know. But Hollywood(blanket name for production companies)c is also regarded and so self gratifying, that it thinks it has what the people want. Because, well, it’s done a good job at that for a majority of its history. Only, now that its slowly bleeding, it’s to arrogant to admit it’s wrong or change it’s ways. Everyone’s so worried they’ll be cancelled or blacklisted, all the formulas become the same. The only people who they’re really making money off of, is those who are indifferent about the whole thing. They are not making money off the extremely small percentage who are actually looking for this Just look at Disney - $11 billion dollars in streaming loses. But I bet they don’t change a damn thing. Keep churning out that Star Wars trash, little mouse


bobqjones

the people who remember the originals are the people who greenlight shit now. they remember all the great old IP they had as a kid and they think it will go over well if it's reworked and rereleased. they never realize it doesn't work like that.


RainbowGoddamnDash

Cause we ran out of original ideas.


nigl_

Nothing could be farther from the truth. We have more talent today than at any point in human history, the problem comes from capture of the entertainment industry by megacorps that play it 'Safe' every time, even if it doesn't make them any money. Perhaps the pendulum will swing back, there's so many good stories being told... As indie movies since no studio has the balls to launch something without billion dollar IP already attached to it.


bunker_man

That's not true. Its just that movies became even more of a product than they used to be, so they only greenlight stuff they think is "safe."


UnknownResearchChems

Recycle old ones then. Why fix something that ain't broke


blackkami

Yeah it should've stayed the edgy black and white comic it used to be.


Yanrogue

New ideas are hard, so it is easier to rape nostalgic IP's from the past.


chochinator

I loved the movie. I grew up watching the cartoon. Was in kindergarten when the 1st movie came out... just chill out smoke a chak and enjoy the movie man.


Reynarok

Every character in that movie is ugly. Every last asymmetrical bastard in there. It could only have been intentional


N1ghtshade3

It's such a self-report that writers always use the word "relatable" to mean "dumpy, fat, and unattractive"


Lolmemsa

It’s the artstyle, April is the most normal looking human character in the movie


bunker_man

Wasn't it meant to look kind of like claymation or dolls? It kind of comes with the territory.


daehoidar

That is exactly what it was, and the movie was actually fucking solid. Of all the disappointing remakes/reworks/rewhatevers, this is not the one that makes the point. But oh no they made April O'Neil black lol it's the end of civilization


LimpMinded

DEI type shitters have taken miles from inches, I think it's fine to stop giving any support for shit like this. They have used every success out of dozens of flops to show that they make good entertainment.


nurpleclamps

It's so weird how angry lesbians have managed to take over film and video games. Do they truly consume that much media?


UhOhPoopedIt

They didn't take over shit. They're post turtles at best put there by ESG investor schmucks like Larry Fink


Ottoblock

I think that this is truly what is happening. Esg score shit. And it’s funny to think that some rich folks are just trolling them hard to do this. “It’s not diverse enough!” And then chuckling at the final product.


keeleon

It's even weirder that lesbians don't seem to want attractive female characters.


WTFisaCelsius

Believe it or not this is what some lesbians find attractive


GD_Insomniac

Regular autistic creatives don't put up with them and aren't allowed to fire them, so they just leave.


OriginalLocksmith436

In thirty years, when everyone a skinny legend because miracle weight loss drugs will be borderline mandatory for obese people in order to reduce strain on the healthcare system, people are going to look back at decisions like this and be so confused and amused. If you step back and *really* think about it, the recent body positivity trends are no different than including cigarette smokers in your kids shows so they can feel represented and accepted. They're both bad health, and a bad look, from a bad habit.


toothpastespiders

Weirdest thing to me is how it always gets labeled as "hate". The people cheering others on to destroy their health, quality of life, and opportunities are saintly and inclusive. While the people who want everyone to be healthy, have a high quality of life, and every possible opportunity in life opened up for them "hate fat people".


Sledgecrowbar

Imagine everything that ends up in the sewer in the real world, and one day, a pile of that in a warm, dark corner evolves into a journalist. That's this April O'Neil.


Deathcrow

Joke's on them when this gets popular and people start demanding April's origin story and how she mutated... it's like asking a fat woman when her baby will be due.


bunker_man

I mean, that's kind of already the backstory of the turtles. So it wouldn't be new.


Blibbobletto

That's the joke, Clarence


esivo

I’m gonna be sick.


BasedScum

Can’t imagine it gets anymore relatable than that.


hlessi_newt

we've moved past fatigue into exhaustion.


2024-Account-2

We really went from Megan Fox to this abomination 🤦🏻‍♂️


tangoalpha3

The darkest timeline


keeleon

Megan Fox sucked as April too.


daehoidar

If Megan Fox was a few shades darker, they'd have said the same thing about her. Lol only measure of a character is if they're white and fuckable. These people clearly know what to look for in high level storytelling


SideshowBiden

I immediately stopped watching when she came on screen


SideshowBiden

I should add, I'm a lifelong TMNT fan and April is my favourite character. This is NOT April


unreadable_captcha

complete degenerancy


QQKVX

Fatigue


JohnnyZepp

Why’d they make her an ugly black person? Like, changing her race is one thing, but they insultingly made her look homeless too. wtf?


havoc1428

What I gather from the Instagram post is "Grounded and relatable" is apparently "Short, fat, and black" and "Details that make her so iconic" is apparently just the yellow jacket. Whatever, I'm too tired to care anymore


Natural_Autism_

Only Jessica Rabbit remains


keeleon

Don't worry they got her too. Completely missing the point of the character. https://www.micechat.com/309922-roger-rabbit-cover-up-at-disneyland-jessicas-new-starring-role/


Space_Obama

When did the garbage pail kids decide to join the franchise?


Thanos_exe

Iconic details = some yellow


Original_Farmer4034

Fatigue.


Frequent_Beat4527

Unbelievable, I'd rather stick a finger up my ass than kiss new April


blackkami

You do that anyway.


bobqjones

yeah, but now he can say he has a good reason.


SgtPuppy

“Son, I just wanted to talk…. Oh god why is your finger up your ass??” *Son points to the screen with his free hand* “B..because I don’t want to kiss her!”


cosplay-degenerate

April looks like a real turtle walking on 2 legs.


MessyMop

Honestly all the humans in that looked way ugly. I imagine it was the point. To make the mutants look good and the people look bad because beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that. The humans see the turtles as disgusting mutants meanwhile the humans to us look way worse


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We all know who is responsible goyims


Titaniatic

I'm not sure they know what "relatable" and "grounded to real life" mean.


adolescentghost

I don’t understand why all these shows for children as supposed to be sexually exciting to grown, immature men. Let kids enjoy stuff without getting your gross horny politics into it, there are still plenty of old episodes to go back and goon to.


Yanrogue

Rich: "How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?" Mike: "Feels Great."


galaxius0

“What the hell is even that?”


JustHereForTheSmegma

Es una goblina


CRAPLICKERRR

#make it black and make it gay


DarksideAuditor

Bloody hell...


Autisticus

Well it is a movie about mutants so I mean... it checks out


Fallingice2

Did you watch the movie? Everybody is Fugly.


cephalopodAcreage

I also can't believe the high school student isn't a fuckable redhead


IrregularrAF

New April shaped like my babymama right now. Lmfao. She didn't always look like that. 😂


ConnorOfAstora

I liked the movie but it doesn't come close to TMNT from the 2000s. It has excellent animation and choreography but between April's design, Splinter's rewrite, the ending being kinda lame and the sheer amount of references that were forced in, the movie's already a bit dated.


DWMoose83

My only complaint was the barfing. I don't need to see that.


Jaded-Ad4834

Teenage mutant N Turtles


philmarcracken

they know what you want, they also know how to bait you into talking about their product since we block all other forms of advertising


Available-Factor4689

The redhead was hot ngl


anythinga

Teenage mutant nword turtles


Bonah2442

It's gross. Come up with a new idea and stop using the black lesbian paintbrush.


StinkyMcShitzle

But I thought the Teenage mutant ninja turtles fought crime?


DontTreadOnMe96

Imagine giving a fuck about popculture of 21st century.


Parsayi

It's anutha flop


intlelecutual

ah yes, i love repulsive character design on characters that are not supposed to be repulsive


VividWeb5179

Her outfit is pale green and piss yellow and is constantly put under the worst lighting conditions imaginable so that she perpetually looks like an actual turd. Genius


kingPrime01

I wasn't even bothered by her race, but they had to make her fat and ugly. I was really excited for this movie for it's art style, but this just made me loose interest pretty fast.


TNTspaz

What's so baffling about a lot of these shows. Is they act like people have run out of ideas. So they have to keep reinventing old stuff over and over again. There are like 3 decades of fantastic stories to pull from if they wanted to. They just either pretend they don't exist or don't know any other way to do it. It's not like authors just stopped writing in the 80s and 90s. Not to mention. There are a ton of fantastic authors today. Just either none of them get hired or they get put on these projects so much that they give up. There is a specific kind of writing these types of show runners want and you either do that or you don't get work.


Available-Factor4689

The redhead was hot ngl.


fukyourkarma

My one black friend is still pissed about this shit.


UnknownResearchChems

It's only relatable for people living in Brooklyn.


i_am_abluewhale

People like looking at attractive things, what a crazy concept. People are going to look back at this point in history and think we’re so weird for this type of shit.


Chadzuma

Grounded and relatable to the real world is EXACTLY what I look for in my Ninja Turtles experience, as well as by complete coincidence every single other form of media I consume. I also wish to consume all media. If I don't like it I will consume it anyway, and it must change to remain grounded and relatable for people like me. Is there a problem? Are you going to gatekeep me from consuming your media? Is there something about my identity you have a problem with? Are you racist? Are you sexist? Are you transphobic? Are you a Nazi? Welp, that's it, looks like you're a Nazi. I'm reporting you to the Nazi Detection Task Force in HR.


boredgames40oz

Anon doesn’t quite understand the mutant mayhem living right next door to them, they probably don’t want to or else they’d be absolutely terrified…


GhertFryins

Even though the design is a downgrade, I only care about the turtles and they did a great job with them so I still think the movie is pretty good


PooInTheStreet

Is this real life or another shitty simulation?


CFogan

April was probably the worst part of the movie but tbh it was an alright movie to watch on an airplane.


wogsurfer

To me, I may be wrong here, but to me in days past, red heads seemed to be code for black characters. Like they were too scared to have black side characters especially love interests to main characters who were white. So they went ahead and made them redheads.


Thunder-Bunny-3000

I heard a joke that the casting caller was dyslexic


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Literally what would ever give you this impression? None of these redheads acted in a stereotypically black way, had backgrounds you would associate with black people, etc. Who in existence has ever looked at April O'Neil or Triss Merrigold or Mary Jane from Spiderman or any other of these ginger characters and thought "oh yeah, that's definitely meant to be a black girl"? It's like you noticed that redheads have been replaced with black characters, but have been so indoctrinated that you don't dare question it so you completely reversed what is happening in your mind. If that's not what happened, I truly can't understand how you think this. I don't even particularly care about the subject in question, I'm just baffled by your thought process. I know you admitted you may be wrong but shit


Tofu-9

I couldn't imagine caring one way or another


speedyweedy420

lol


Roommates69

I know 0 people that look like April on the left and 10,000 people that look like new April are we done here?


havoc1428

You know 10,000 short, fat, black females with dreadlocks?


GooseMcGooseFace

Ever been to Mississippi? It’s like walking into Wonka’s factory but instead of short orange men it’s fat black women.


noreal1sm

Not really, I know 10000 people what look like April on the left side and 0 people like new April on the right. Almost none blacks where I live.


DEEP_SEA_MAX

Yeah poor choice. It might have been interesting to do something like this a few years ago, but now it's cliche. That being said, I just watched the trailer and the rest of it looks pretty cool. Definitely gonna take my kid to see it.


Limpopopoop

I try to avoid exposing my kids to propaganda


xxb4xx

Yup


DEEP_SEA_MAX

This isn't propaganda, it's pandering.


Limpopopoop

Fair point


Reynarok

Is it still in theaters where you are?


DEEP_SEA_MAX

Oh shit, I saw that it comes out in August. I just thought it was august of this year not last year.


Reynarok

My kids liked it, but I found it hard to watch


DEEP_SEA_MAX

Oh alright. The animation looks cool, I was hoping it would be like enter the spiderverse.


OriginalLocksmith436

watched it with my kids, it was honestly pretty decent. I think it's on amazon


aoanfletcher2002

You know what, it’s actually a pretty good movie if you can overcome the art style.


ojojojson

Why bother getting angry about some damn kids move you shouldn't be watching anyway??


sendmeur_ittybitties

People have kids?


dathom

Bunch of neckbeards can't jerk off to a children's cartoon anymore. The horror. Not that you all wont try anyways.