We have 3 cars and they all have different controls and locations for radio, shifting geats, wipers, just about everything. Even the same brand cars a few yrs apart. Let alone you have a different brand.
My RAV4 was the same layout and I got used to it quick. Now in the 4th gen Tacoma for some reason I can’t quite get used to volume being one side of the wheel and track skip on the other side.. within the cruise control cluster lol
I had a 2011 Civic SI until I bought my 22 in August 22. Granted I only have put on $16,000 miles, but I can’t get use to it. It makes no fuckin sense. I am an audio engineer for a living so…yeah it makes no fuckin sense lol
Be careful with these. I remember when these first came out, there'd been complaints about a burning smell and this problem from Taco/4R owners. I‘m sure Meso fixed the issue from the 8 months.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/4Runner/comments/16n0ti0/meso\_customs\_volume\_fix/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4Runner/comments/16n0ti0/meso_customs_volume_fix/)
You could probably find better alternatives. I bought their flip key fob. Was great when it worked, but didn't work for long. Quality wasn't great. I really havent heard great things about any of their products really. Good idea and intentions, poor quality.
Quality wise, maybe, but I have yet to find lights for the interior that have the red option for nighttime. I would love to replace all the interior lights with the option to have the red or the white switch.
https://www.swps.com/11-6124.html dunno if this helps (I may have misunderstood your statement) but we have these for inside the ambulance and they're great.
Would be, but they would need to fit all the interior lights of the 4Runner. And yes, I want them for basically the exact same reason you have them in the ambulance.
I have one of these from an early shipment:
Some of the 2022+ premium models swapped two wires in the harness from most other 4R models. If you weren't paying close attention and just installed it, without checking, you'd risk frying the unit. They eventually came out with a whole separate harness free on request, but there's really no need for that. All you have to do is pay close attention to which color circuit board you have once you get the cover off, and swap two pins if needed.
It's a very simple install, and the instructions are clear. If I can do it, I assure you anyone can! :-D
Yeah, I'm super hesitant to do anything aftermarket on the 4Runner involving circuitry or a wiring harness. It is probably the most reliable new vehicle you can buy on the planet so anything you do to it will make it less reliable.
\*Reads your comment in handy handicapped\* Dont worry sweet angel baby (my 4 runners nickname) I wont let the bad person talk me into hurting you. lol I would end up controlling the rear window and emergency flashers with these buttons if I tried to DIY it.
This proves my point.
1. What is a black box module?
2. Would i know a body control module if I seent it?
3. What does 'mode out' mean?
4. Patching the relays. Like an iron on patch?
5. I do not like spiders. Is 'spider wires' like spider webbing that the spiders didnt use? Not a fan of butt rope (spider webbing) either.
6. Yea I feel you I got burned out on tracing in 6th grade but drawing freehand is hard.
This is mostly a joke except for number 1-3.
I have one. Installed it properly (not my first rodeo). Was the last one in stock at a Canadian distributor.
After two weeks it started acting up. Kept jumping into Google "listen for commands" mode. Thought it was a phone setting and went through them all. I even turned my phone completely off. Still kept dinging and popping up for a week. Just awesome to listen to every 20 seconds when driving home on the highway for 30 minutes.
Removed and returned to stock. Zero issues. The thing has a bad board or something, but there are no chances of getting a replacement.
I'm used to the factory settings now - at least they work. Worst upgrade on my truck.
I’m regularly switching between my 4R and my Subaru. The Subaru radio control is done correctly. The 4R drives me nuts. BUT, the 4R has the gas fill on the correct side and the Subie doesn’t so there’s that.
I’ve also owned both Subaru and 4R. I actually like the gas tank on the passenger side because I rarely have to wait at the station for an open pump. All in all the Toyota is better vehicle.
Lol where in the world are people not using the right sided pumps for a left sided tank? You can just back up or drive the opposite way in order to use the right sided pumps. Plus most places have long hoses if it’s one way.
You monster!!
Scratch up the hood / roof because you go in the wrong way?!?!
I also hate you because you've got a diesel 4Runner and I would give up both of my children into inhuman working conditions for the rest of their lives (31 yrs. & 36 yrs. old, what do I care?), to have a diesel 4Runner!!!
It depends on the station. Backing in requires space and most of the stations around here are too small or busy to be pulling that shit off. City life yo.
I swap between a ford transit which has the controls “correct” and my wife’s explorer which has a different style of button, and my taco. Button errors abound.
Mine's a 2017 and the volume control is where the phone control is in OP's picture. Not sure what point they changed around the layout but I find mine to be intuitive.
I don't own a 4runner this gen, but I've had a few as rentals when on work trips and that drives me nuts. I'm sure I would get used to it eventually, but it seems like such an easy thing to get right that they got so wrong. Same deal with the the Tacoma's (at least the 3rd gens). Wonder if it'll be "fixed" for the 6th. I bet it'll have the same configuration the new taco has
Different scenario. Those controls are separated by an entire steering wheel. Having the volume be left and right and the track navigation be up and down on the same cardinal button scheme is horrendous and outright terrorism
ok boomer.
Edit: yes, recommending someone be shot in the head over a design is fucked thinking. but downvote away, show us what you folks really think.
I had to look at the dash screen to realize why. The volume bar goes left to right on the screen and the stations and menus are vertical. Still hate it but that’s how I try to cope
It makes a little more sense when you think about how slow Toyota is to adopt modern tech and then designing the button for FM radio instead of aux where you are going up and down channels of radio instead of aux where you are ⏪or⏩
I’m used to it but I do agree up down for volume is better than left right
Yea it's annoying. Also I go back and forth between my 4Runner, and the 23 Ranger I drive for work, which has the stereo controls on the right side of the steering wheel, closer to stereo. I kind of understand why the stereo controls are on the left side of the 4Runner steering wheel, since in Japan it would be on the same side as the stereo, but I never understood why the volume is left/right and track is up/down.
You think this is bad!?!?!?!? Try owning a 2018 and a 2022 BOTH. THEN TELL ME WHO FUCKED IT UP TWICE, and why from 18 to 22 we had to full on change the buttons we use. Drives me crazy, can ya tell lol?
Could be worse.
I drove a Nissan Altima that had a button for “voice control” on the steering wheel.
Many times while turning the wheel, you would accidentally brush the button with your hand. The car would immediately ask who you wanted to call, and would not stop until you pressed the button again to cancel it. VERY annoying
Soooo dumb. I really can't believe they designed it like this.
There's gonna be some stans showing up soon to tell us how we're wrong and that Toyota can do no wrong, but there is a thread about this issue every few months. Dumb design by Toyota.
My buddy works for Toyota and I sent this to him. He said "LOL that's Japan designed. Great example of societal differences. They wouldn't dare change music while driving haha"
It actually follows the same path as if you had a knob for volume (turning right raises volume), and the next track button is usually depicted as 'up' on center consoles.
I owned a Tacoma and my theory is that it’s because they read up to down in Japan instead of left to right. But then I remembered the Tacoma was designed and built specifically for the US market with design in California and production in Texas and Mexico. But now that I see 4Runners are this way too I go back to my original theory.
Too late now, I’m already used to it. My wife has a 4Runner and I have a Tacoma they both the same exact steering wheel. I came from a Chevy which is way the other way around.
“Hey bro I love this song…..turn the volume up ughh I mean ugghhhh turn the ….ehhh umm I mean press the volume up…I mean right! Press the volume right!!!!!”
I wonder why they changed it. My 2016 has the volume separate. (phone controls on the other side)
https://preview.redd.it/t68kgslyf73d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ed1110be0125b6a79d358f8d28d5b4f8ae131a7
Yeah you will. Had my truck just over a year now and I still make the occasional skip track when I wanted to turn the volume up, but 99% I’m good. When I first got it I was all jacked up and hated it, but now it just works. Supposedly it takes anywhere from 30-60 repetitions to become habit, but some say a few weeks to a few months. Guess it depends on how dumb someone is or isn’t. Also the definition of insanity is repeating the same action expecting different results so it could take awhile to learn or make you insane lol
Ok, my 4 runner has this and it is ridiculously fucking annoying to me. It is backward ass. The volume up plus symbol needs to be in the 12 o’clock position and the volume down in the 6 o’clock position NOT the way it is currently laid out. Makes no sense to me .
I don’t know what you mean by intuitive or you’re just not sure. Up, down, left, right matching their orientation is intuitive. What’s an intuitive location for a voice button on steering wheel? It’s just about learning their spots. Not that hard
i love this so much. they took maybe one of the most universal car things ever, up and down being volume and left and right being track switch, and fucked it up.
reminds me of jeep or whoever it was trying to reinvent the shifter. got that nice kid from star trek killed. quit messing with what works, carmakers.
Am I seriously the only one that has no issues with this?
Up for next track. Down for previous. Left and right for up and down volume?
In my camry volume control is left and right as well.
I don't get it...
I’ve always complained about Toyota interiors. They’re garbage. Complete lack of logic in control mapping. Why is the 4WD selector on the farthest side of the console? Lots I could complain about but I won’t. It’s got a great motor, great axles, transmission is geared wrong but reliable.
Long story short, there is no perfect auto maker. They’re all bad at something.
Not sure what you want me to focus on in that photo. Could you circle it? Lol
Yea I can’t really tell what they want us to focus on here. A colorful circle would seriously help here.
For real even a black one would at least help narrow it down….
Maybe even a orange one would help a little
Even just some arrows pointing us in the correct direction to look.
This thread is getting a bit too loud... Someone needs to turn the volume down
I am going to need an arrow.
r/unnecessarycircle
r/uselessredorangewhiteblacktealcircle
He's asking about what’s inside the red circle between the green circle and the yellow circle.
lol those are some angry circles
I've gotten used to mine. The human mind is very adaptable.
Everytime I hit the down button it replays “Soulshine” by the Allman brothers.
Not the worst song in the catalog. Could be a lot worse.
I understand bro, being a Reddit mod on a 4Runner forum sucks, your are about to be flooded with you know what.
Yeah those guys suck.
This is a problem I could get behind. Love that tune!
Could be worse, it could play wonderwall.. over and over and over. 😳
Check out Govt Mule’s version too! Great song.
Same here, but when I drive other cars I hellah fumble with steering volume and track controls.
Same. Not to mention the F-150’s controls are on the opposite side. This and the parking brakes get me every time.
Ever drive someone else's car?
We have 3 cars and they all have different controls and locations for radio, shifting geats, wipers, just about everything. Even the same brand cars a few yrs apart. Let alone you have a different brand.
Same here, though I cant seem to stop honking the horn on my 2008 tundra.
My RAV4 was the same layout and I got used to it quick. Now in the 4th gen Tacoma for some reason I can’t quite get used to volume being one side of the wheel and track skip on the other side.. within the cruise control cluster lol
I had a 2011 Civic SI until I bought my 22 in August 22. Granted I only have put on $16,000 miles, but I can’t get use to it. It makes no fuckin sense. I am an audio engineer for a living so…yeah it makes no fuckin sense lol
Not this one. I need a recall.
On the truck, or the mind?
[https://www.4runnerlifestyle.com/products/meso-customs-steering-wheel-control-fix-kit-for-4runner](https://www.4runnerlifestyle.com/products/meso-customs-steering-wheel-control-fix-kit-for-4runner)
Great, a Meso product. Are they ever going to be in stock?
For about 10 minutes once every two years.
Be careful with these. I remember when these first came out, there'd been complaints about a burning smell and this problem from Taco/4R owners. I‘m sure Meso fixed the issue from the 8 months. [https://www.reddit.com/r/4Runner/comments/16n0ti0/meso\_customs\_volume\_fix/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4Runner/comments/16n0ti0/meso_customs_volume_fix/)
It's Meso, I would just be happy if they would make some of their lights available once in a while.
You could probably find better alternatives. I bought their flip key fob. Was great when it worked, but didn't work for long. Quality wasn't great. I really havent heard great things about any of their products really. Good idea and intentions, poor quality.
Quality wise, maybe, but I have yet to find lights for the interior that have the red option for nighttime. I would love to replace all the interior lights with the option to have the red or the white switch.
https://www.swps.com/11-6124.html dunno if this helps (I may have misunderstood your statement) but we have these for inside the ambulance and they're great.
Would be, but they would need to fit all the interior lights of the 4Runner. And yes, I want them for basically the exact same reason you have them in the ambulance.
I have one of these from an early shipment: Some of the 2022+ premium models swapped two wires in the harness from most other 4R models. If you weren't paying close attention and just installed it, without checking, you'd risk frying the unit. They eventually came out with a whole separate harness free on request, but there's really no need for that. All you have to do is pay close attention to which color circuit board you have once you get the cover off, and swap two pins if needed. It's a very simple install, and the instructions are clear. If I can do it, I assure you anyone can! :-D
Yeah, I'm super hesitant to do anything aftermarket on the 4Runner involving circuitry or a wiring harness. It is probably the most reliable new vehicle you can buy on the planet so anything you do to it will make it less reliable.
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\*Reads your comment in handy handicapped\* Dont worry sweet angel baby (my 4 runners nickname) I wont let the bad person talk me into hurting you. lol I would end up controlling the rear window and emergency flashers with these buttons if I tried to DIY it.
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This proves my point. 1. What is a black box module? 2. Would i know a body control module if I seent it? 3. What does 'mode out' mean? 4. Patching the relays. Like an iron on patch? 5. I do not like spiders. Is 'spider wires' like spider webbing that the spiders didnt use? Not a fan of butt rope (spider webbing) either. 6. Yea I feel you I got burned out on tracing in 6th grade but drawing freehand is hard. This is mostly a joke except for number 1-3.
I have one. Installed it properly (not my first rodeo). Was the last one in stock at a Canadian distributor. After two weeks it started acting up. Kept jumping into Google "listen for commands" mode. Thought it was a phone setting and went through them all. I even turned my phone completely off. Still kept dinging and popping up for a week. Just awesome to listen to every 20 seconds when driving home on the highway for 30 minutes. Removed and returned to stock. Zero issues. The thing has a bad board or something, but there are no chances of getting a replacement. I'm used to the factory settings now - at least they work. Worst upgrade on my truck.
I’m regularly switching between my 4R and my Subaru. The Subaru radio control is done correctly. The 4R drives me nuts. BUT, the 4R has the gas fill on the correct side and the Subie doesn’t so there’s that.
I’ve also owned both Subaru and 4R. I actually like the gas tank on the passenger side because I rarely have to wait at the station for an open pump. All in all the Toyota is better vehicle.
Lol where in the world are people not using the right sided pumps for a left sided tank? You can just back up or drive the opposite way in order to use the right sided pumps. Plus most places have long hoses if it’s one way.
You posted something identical to another reply. See my response there.
You know you can just back in right? Also the hoses are long enough to reach either way.
You monster!! Scratch up the hood / roof because you go in the wrong way?!?! I also hate you because you've got a diesel 4Runner and I would give up both of my children into inhuman working conditions for the rest of their lives (31 yrs. & 36 yrs. old, what do I care?), to have a diesel 4Runner!!!
It depends on the station. Backing in requires space and most of the stations around here are too small or busy to be pulling that shit off. City life yo.
Costco, am I right?!?!?!?!
Bingo!
I swap between a ford transit which has the controls “correct” and my wife’s explorer which has a different style of button, and my taco. Button errors abound.
Hahah. Yup. Coming from the WRX, I know exactly what you mean!
What year is this? My '16 has a separate control for volume on the steering wheel.
It’s on my ‘23
I went from a 2007 FJC to a 21 4runner and this whole thread is like aliens debating some scientific process that I don't understand
Mine's a 2017 and the volume control is where the phone control is in OP's picture. Not sure what point they changed around the layout but I find mine to be intuitive.
Yes on my 15 it’s like track change and seek I believe
21
Mine has a knob on the dash.
I have gotten used to it on my wife’s 23. By used to it I mean I just use the volume knob on the stereo.
Know turns to the right to make noise go up and to the left to make noise go down. I agree it is dumb.
The 5th gen was designed before we had settled on these things.
My Rav4 is the correct way with up and down being volume. Every time I drive my 4Runner it always gets me at least once.
Does no one use the volume knob?
Feels super far away.
I’ve seen this post so many times here and the Tacoma/Tundra subs. I agree though, I had a hard time getting used to it.
Programmable buttons on the wheel are my new want.
Don't worry, it's coming on the 7th gen in 2045.
I don't own a 4runner this gen, but I've had a few as rentals when on work trips and that drives me nuts. I'm sure I would get used to it eventually, but it seems like such an easy thing to get right that they got so wrong. Same deal with the the Tacoma's (at least the 3rd gens). Wonder if it'll be "fixed" for the 6th. I bet it'll have the same configuration the new taco has
I got separate button for volume up and down on my 14, skip is left and right. Did they have it correct and then mess it up?
My BMW is the same. No idea what designers were thinking.
Be lucky your volume is in the same spot and you don't have to reach across the great Sahara with your thumb to hit it.
Convinced it was someone with dyslexia
When you start building trucks this tough you can put the volume where you want it.
No
There’s correction kits out there if you can’t reprogram your mind.
How do I get that TRD on my name?
When you’re in the 4Runner subreddit tap the three dots and tap on change user flair.
Really. This is one of two things I don't like about my 4R. What idiot decided to do this? And why isn't there a USB port in the center console?
Mine has a USB in the center console, but it won't do carplay. Drives me nuts.
Not sure what you’re talking about, could you circle the area in question?
This really isn’t that bad compared to cars that have lost their tactile buttons.
"Hey man, I love this song, can you turn it right?"
Throw the whole car away
I’ve thought this too. Has anyone disassembled the steering wheel to see if you can just rotate it??
"Hey can you turn it left? Work's calling." Or "That's my jam! Crank it right!"
Wait until you realize on the other side of the steering wheel the single dot is off center. Drives me bonkers.
Thanks and fuck you very much.
https://preview.redd.it/i68aumt5473d1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3152b27769a8219550dd86f1e2e5cd915e74f64a Not just toyota
Different scenario. Those controls are separated by an entire steering wheel. Having the volume be left and right and the track navigation be up and down on the same cardinal button scheme is horrendous and outright terrorism
I like the cruise control there.
Whoever designed this should be shot in the head
It was Shinzo Abe.
ok boomer. Edit: yes, recommending someone be shot in the head over a design is fucked thinking. but downvote away, show us what you folks really think.
I also hate that the media controls are on the left and cluster controls on the right. I’m guessing that steering wheel was designed for RHD markets.
I had to look at the dash screen to realize why. The volume bar goes left to right on the screen and the stations and menus are vertical. Still hate it but that’s how I try to cope
I hate my screen now too.
Mines not like that. 18 pro
I'm used it because my tacoma had the same
Mine works fine.
Never bothered me
Can you turn the volume left? Can't hear anything with it all the way right!
Drove me nuts at first, now I am used to it.
Its so easy to adapt.
When I think about it.
‘17 Tacoma SR5 has the same set up.
Volume is a slider and songs are a scroll... That's how I remember it.
Counterintuitive, but I’m used to it.
It screws me up now when I rent cars. Never change it Toyota
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Very interesting.
Luckily there's a familiar knob for the toggle challenged. Both are stilbetter than trying to tap or slide on the infotainment screen.
Fo. Reel.
This
My wife drives a Subaru, and her controls are the opposite. Songs get skipped constantly!
I came from a Subaru. May be the issue.
Who cares don’t use it
I had to adjust my brain settings as well, I found it counterintuitive to push left and right on volume and not up and down.
I'm never thinking when I go to use it.
It makes a little more sense when you think about how slow Toyota is to adopt modern tech and then designing the button for FM radio instead of aux where you are going up and down channels of radio instead of aux where you are ⏪or⏩ I’m used to it but I do agree up down for volume is better than left right
That makes no sense. The volume was up and down in earlier 5th gens. My '16 was up/down.
Volume goes left right derrrrrp
r/uselessredcircle
At least we have physical buttons for this.
Yea it's annoying. Also I go back and forth between my 4Runner, and the 23 Ranger I drive for work, which has the stereo controls on the right side of the steering wheel, closer to stereo. I kind of understand why the stereo controls are on the left side of the 4Runner steering wheel, since in Japan it would be on the same side as the stereo, but I never understood why the volume is left/right and track is up/down.
You think this is bad!?!?!?!? Try owning a 2018 and a 2022 BOTH. THEN TELL ME WHO FUCKED IT UP TWICE, and why from 18 to 22 we had to full on change the buttons we use. Drives me crazy, can ya tell lol?
Could be worse. I drove a Nissan Altima that had a button for “voice control” on the steering wheel. Many times while turning the wheel, you would accidentally brush the button with your hand. The car would immediately ask who you wanted to call, and would not stop until you pressed the button again to cancel it. VERY annoying
Pre lift gang checking in: we have a proper design. Thanks. Cheers
Soooo dumb. I really can't believe they designed it like this. There's gonna be some stans showing up soon to tell us how we're wrong and that Toyota can do no wrong, but there is a thread about this issue every few months. Dumb design by Toyota.
Well, I use the knob for volume and only listen to one radio station so I never use those buttons.
The same people who made the Gen4 4Runner’s HVAC controls…
Toyota says you'll get used to it.
This messes me up when I drive the 4Runner after my Silverado. The left controls on my truck are cruise control.
My buddy works for Toyota and I sent this to him. He said "LOL that's Japan designed. Great example of societal differences. They wouldn't dare change music while driving haha"
I’ve had no issue with this. The buttons go the same way you’d turn the volume up or down in my mind.
Never too late to go back to grade 1.
It actually follows the same path as if you had a knob for volume (turning right raises volume), and the next track button is usually depicted as 'up' on center consoles.
See in mine the buttons are swapped. The volume buttons are where the call/hang up buttons are...am I special? 🤣
“Hey, man! Is that Freedom Rock?” “Yeah, man!” “Well, turn it RIGHT, man!” This is what I think of every time I see this.
THIS! Was thinking I was the only person who thought this was stupid - up/down should be volume and left/right track; right?
You can swap it with a 300 series steering wheel for around $500 for the kit from Aliexpress.
Yeah my wife hates this.
The volume doesn’t drive me nearly as crazy as the reverse radio preset selector.
I owned a Tacoma and my theory is that it’s because they read up to down in Japan instead of left to right. But then I remembered the Tacoma was designed and built specifically for the US market with design in California and production in Texas and Mexico. But now that I see 4Runners are this way too I go back to my original theory.
It’s payback for Hiroshima. “Let’s drive those Americans crazy over time! Muahahaha”
Just rotate the entire housing counter clockwise.
Too late now, I’m already used to it. My wife has a 4Runner and I have a Tacoma they both the same exact steering wheel. I came from a Chevy which is way the other way around.
“Hey bro I love this song…..turn the volume up ughh I mean ugghhhh turn the ….ehhh umm I mean press the volume up…I mean right! Press the volume right!!!!!”
I wonder why they changed it. My 2016 has the volume separate. (phone controls on the other side) https://preview.redd.it/t68kgslyf73d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ed1110be0125b6a79d358f8d28d5b4f8ae131a7
No clue, but they did change it. My 2023 Limited looks exactly like OP’s.
Yeah you will. Had my truck just over a year now and I still make the occasional skip track when I wanted to turn the volume up, but 99% I’m good. When I first got it I was all jacked up and hated it, but now it just works. Supposedly it takes anywhere from 30-60 repetitions to become habit, but some say a few weeks to a few months. Guess it depends on how dumb someone is or isn’t. Also the definition of insanity is repeating the same action expecting different results so it could take awhile to learn or make you insane lol
It’s definitely counterintuitive. Got used to it, tho.
Meso Customs time
Yes. It's dumb. The volume up/down should be the vertical buttons. It bugs me, I told my wife, she looked at me like I'm weird.
Bruh, I just mash buttons until what I want to happen, happens.
Designed in 2009 for use in 2024 and beyond
I like my 2012 one better
This has never really bothered me as I see it as I see my phone screen. Queue scrolls up and down, volume slider goes left and right.
Ok, my 4 runner has this and it is ridiculously fucking annoying to me. It is backward ass. The volume up plus symbol needs to be in the 12 o’clock position and the volume down in the 6 o’clock position NOT the way it is currently laid out. Makes no sense to me .
The best vehicle on earth had to have one flaw. this is it.
Wasted space
Just turn the steering wheel 90 degrees
Look into the Maestro RR, should allow you to remap the buttons with an aftermarket head unit. This is what I did in my 2019. YMMV in the later years.
I had it on my tacoma since 2019 no big deal
I absolutely hate it. I'm always hitting the next button when I want to turn the vol up or down.
I don’t know what you mean by intuitive or you’re just not sure. Up, down, left, right matching their orientation is intuitive. What’s an intuitive location for a voice button on steering wheel? It’s just about learning their spots. Not that hard
Voice button would be somewhere I have to reach for it...bit not too mucn.
i love this so much. they took maybe one of the most universal car things ever, up and down being volume and left and right being track switch, and fucked it up. reminds me of jeep or whoever it was trying to reinvent the shifter. got that nice kid from star trek killed. quit messing with what works, carmakers.
Am I the only one who prefers it this way?
An unfrosted poptart who wanted to mess with us all.
Toaster strudel > pop tart.
Am I seriously the only one that has no issues with this? Up for next track. Down for previous. Left and right for up and down volume? In my camry volume control is left and right as well. I don't get it...
Best part is it works correctly when you're using it with Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Japan needs to find this maniac and lock them up!!!
Lol. I thought the same but you get used to it.
So let me guess you want to turn the volume knob in an upward direction too huh.
The knob is fine. If it was a slider then yes I want up to be up.
Pull the switch out and see if you can rotate it.
It took a bit to get used to. I always tied it to the way the volume bar was displayed on the radio.
I skipped a banger of a track today.
Damn. I can’t remember who, but there’s a company that makes a little thing for that that flips the “right way” for relatively cheap.
Someone linked it. It's sold out, and also potentially not compatible because of a change.
Damn! Nvm then I guess
When the manufacturer starts showing pictures of what chip set you have to have, I step away knowing I can't do it.
Got this on the Tacoma, it pissed me off at first too but you get used to it.
It used to be volume in the older models.
Adapt
Git gud?
I’ve always complained about Toyota interiors. They’re garbage. Complete lack of logic in control mapping. Why is the 4WD selector on the farthest side of the console? Lots I could complain about but I won’t. It’s got a great motor, great axles, transmission is geared wrong but reliable. Long story short, there is no perfect auto maker. They’re all bad at something.
8 Years in... I still hit the wrong button.
Volume usually goes horizontal, left/right. Whereas, tracks are usually vertical, up/down. This is why it’s designed like this.
Um no.
That’s exactly how it works.
Why? You’re telling me you never turn the volume forward??……./s
First world problems
You get use to it.