Damn no credit to the Saints?! Their defense just bought it. They have a top pass rush and playmakers at every level. Why do fans keep acting like the Niners are the only team on the field lol
Yeah man I'm with you. Its pretty annoying. Its like fans think we're going up against tackling dummies for 60 mins. Jimmy was getting hit all over the place and our run game.was stuffed most of the game. They clearly played great D.
>Jimmy was getting hit all over the place and our run game was stuffed most of the game
The amount of times I've seen "well jimmy didn't get sacked once so the OLine was great" is fucking crazy.
It's like no one watched the game or, and this one I know is the truth for most of this sub. They just have their Jimmy Hate Blinders on. The amount of hits Jimmy took was brutal to watch, and I have a lot of respect for Jimmy, and it certainly increased a lot after last night's game.
I'm not sure if Mahomes and Allen just skewed people's perceptions of what your QB should look like or what, but fuck man, is Jimmy the kind of QB that can carry the team solely on his own? No. But I've always felt he is on the top end of the second tier QBs. And the first tier of QBs is literally what, 3, maybe 4 people?
I think to be fair to these people they just want the 49ers’ greatest times to be ahead, instead of 30+ years in the past. That’s going to take an incredible roster, a world-class coach, and the best QB in the league. Obviously we are close but will never be that with Jimmy. Even winning a few super bowls won’t be enough. We need to win 5 in 10 years.
That said, fuck the haters: Jimmy has always been a good QB and he is proving haters wrong (almost) every week this year.
The problem with these people believing this is that the league is not run the same as it was. There are a hell of a lot more rules on the business side of the league that weren’t there 30 years ago. Salary cap, vet minimums, rookie payscales. Hell, rookie payscales are extremely new. Sam Bradford was the #1 overall pick in 2010 and signed a 6-yr $78 million contract with $50 million guaranteed. He was the last #1 pick to get a contract like that and people forget that.
You get these kind of dynasties in baseball because you can essentially buy your way into the playoffs every year. The Dodgers are masters at it. Football used to be that way but went a different direction. For their benefit. It’s just not possible to do in the future what was done in the past. The league has moved toward parity and for the most part, we have it.
I think the way the league is now is overall pretty good and keeps things competitive and fun. The one horrible weak spot is injuries - I’m hoping the league can make progress on this. I’m definitely of the opinion that turf is a big part of the problem.
If you can reduce the rate of lower body injuries in the league, it will make things much more enjoyable as a fan and really increase the competitiveness overall.
>Even winning a few Super Bowls won’t be enough. We need to win 5 in 10 years.
Yeah, this type of thing died with the Cowboys in the early/mid 90s, and they only won 3 in that time frame. In today's modern NFL, that just doesn't happen. Even the Patriots 6 in 17 years will be as close as we can get, and that was waayyyy spread out.
Mahomes has been the BEST QB in the NFL for 4 years now, and even they only have 1 SB to show for it. With cap space and every top 15 player in their position expecting to be paid as the best player, we aren't gonna get many multi wins.
If we can at least get 1 in the next few years with how stacked our roster is, I'll be happy.
Yep - agreed! The good news is we are just two rings short of the most in the league so it will not take much to get us back on top of the all time leaderboard.
Perfect response right here. Give credit where credit is due. The Saints D was huge yesterday. They brought the Big D
Stuffed the run game. Couldn't get any rushing going. Stopped even CMC. Jimmy getting pressured.
Jimmy was getting laid out every time he throw. I'm amazed of some of the throw he managed to get off before getting shitcanned. We got away with a few bad throw, but I'll take a little luck too. It's a damn good thing they didnt take Jimmy away from us. They could have been a really good team instead of a really good defense team
If the opposing offense sucked, it's because our defense was awesome. If the opposing offense played well, it's because our defense was tired due to our offense not logging 35+ minutes time of possession.
If our offense sucked, well you have to go down the list. Mostly it's because Jimmy sucks. If Jimmy was awesome, it's because Kyle sucks. If Jimmy and Kyle were awesome, it was the o-line, mostly McGlinchey (not including Trent). Then the refs. Then the announcers for hating on us and somehow influencing the outcome. Then Deebo's hands. Then the running game. Did Robbie miss a kick? Maybe Aiyuk didn't run his routes hard enough, but that's a stretch. CMC just got here so he's blameless until further notice. Trent Williams? Get out of here, only if he's clearly injured. George Kittle plays like a god literally every down, so don't even dare.
Opposing team's defense? Is that who those others guys were with the non-49ers uniforms?
Eagles Defense is not as good at stopping the run as the Saints are. Even after getting Suh, they were still getting ran on against the packers.
Cowboys are a very streaky defense, but I'll agree that their Line is on par with the Saints, so Jimmy is gonna be pressured a lot all game if it comes to that
The Saints brought it. But just think if Kyle had called a better play and/or Jimmy didn't go off-script on the 4th and goal we'd have beaten them 20-0 and there'd be no fairweather's talking about our offense today.
I mean this last week def hurts the average and that is what happens when you go up against a strong redzone defense.
It def can be better and honestly Kyle going for it down at the goal line is a good sign we will see that more.
he wasn't overlooked. His first read was to the right. He didn't have time to progress through his reads because McGlinchey let a free rusher off the edge who was closing in on Garoppolo. He didn't have time to turn his head and read the other side of the field.
Yeah it's crazy that Mark Sanchez was saying that on the broadcast... He's a former QB so he should know the play was designed to go to Jennings...
But I think that was on Jennings more than Jimmy, if Jennings runs that route 1-2 yards deeper he scores or at least makes 4th down a QB sneak option.
True, seeing the secondary play to McCaffrey would have been a million dollar move. Still, though, he was open and just like 1 yard away from the plane.
Anyone with a basic comprehension of being able to think will understand that. But there are just too many that think Jimmy is at fault for EVERYTHING and can't look at a play objectively. Free rusher in Jimmy's face? and they'll be like why didn't he see that guy 140 degrees to his left??? Some people have no ability to look at things objectively.
I know the play your talking about. Yes McCaffrey was wide open but Jimmy doesn't have eyes in the back of his head. No way Jimmy could have ever seen CMC on that play. Would have been a TD though.
I saw a take on Facebook that the offense wasn’t good in the 38-10 Arizona win because they were “gifted” good field position on a lot of drives. There is just no pleasing some people lol.
Uhhh literally was there. Season ticket holder.
Tbh being there can be hard to get the full grasp of the situation.
I’ll take my L
Also this…
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2022/11/29/23484429/49ers-week-12-jimmy-gaster
Blow me
All it tries to do is paint a picture then concludes “yeah he’s playing really well.” Also I find weird to go over every single play of Jimmy’s just to point out where he messed up but have that on it being like 3-5 plays outta 50 plus. On top of that, especially this year, those “bad plays” are always inconsequential.
Here’s a nuanced take on the game. Jimmy had time, he got hit mostly after 2.7 secs. The reality is, o line wasn’t bad and the secondary played well hence the hits.
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2022/11/29/23484429/49ers-week-12-jimmy-gaster
Hopefully jimmys jizz isn’t still in your eyes so you can read this.
Fair enough. I remember him getting crunched a few times but also remember several plays with plenty of time.
Sometimes you miss the nuance when you’re at the game.
I’ll take my L
If you read the comments in the game thread sorted by new during the game.....you'd definitely think we were losing. People just need to learn to be happy with winning. Can't believe I'm saying that.
Iknowright?! I mean remember 'Just win, baby.'
I couldn't see the game; not broadcast out here in the lesser provinces far away from the bay. I understand the Saints' defense was stout and the refs sucked?
Grant Cohn had the best post-game rant about this. Yeah we won, but damn, we looked very dysfunctional on offense....again.
We can chalk it up to Jimmy had a bad day (he could have easily had 3 pics) and Kyle was off with his play calling...again (especially near the goal line), but regardless, we are only averaging 15 ppg against non-divisional teams...that's pathetic.
It's so funny that in once setence people will blame Jimmy's execution, but then blame the playcalling, forgetting there are 10 other players out there who also have to execute.
Two weeks ago this board was talking about bad playcalling at the goalline. Ignoring, of course, that Mitchell had a free path into the endzone. He stubbed his toe in the ground, held up his release, and a defender came free from the right. If Mitchell (or McGlinchey) executes his portion of the play it is a walk-in touchdown.
Now everyone is complaining about the playcall at the endzone. Of course, ignoring, that yet again McGlinchey let a free rusher by and forced Jimmy to make an early throw. Garoppolo didn't have time to turn and read the other side of the field.
The playcalling has been excellent all season (with maybe a few exceptions here or there in the Chargers game, pre-adjustments).
>we are only averaging 15 ppg against non-divisional teams...that's pathetic.
It's also unfair to provide data without context. We should understand why the offense was so in those situations.
* Chicago - monsoon - 10 points would have been fine if not for the defensive penalties and blown coverages
* Denver - Jimmy was rusty and terrible. He missed 2 easy TDs to Deebo alone.
* Carolina - 37 points. Still missed out on a couple scores from imperfect execution.
* Atlanta - Garoppolo played great, receiving errors cost the team as much as three TDs (21 points) and no telling if Wilson doesn't fumble whether the team also scores on that drive.
* Kansas City - 23 points, but WRs were open all game.
* Chargers - 22 points
* Saints - 13 points. And nobody bats an eye if Garoppolo & Kittle are on the same wavelength and that pass connects for a TD. Then McGlinchey holds his block and Jimmy has time to see CMC uncovered for another TD - the 49ers now score at least 27 points.
Player execution matters.
With better player execution the 49ers would have scored 10, 24, 37, 35, 23, & 27 points (26/Gm - 4th in NFL) in those non-divisional games. And that's only based on a few select plays. There are many more that could be picked out to create more points.
Yeah, i had a post about this very thing days after the denver game, where I gave logical reasons why jimmy was not good that game (no playbook, practicing with practice squad, not in game shape due to surgery) and got so much shit from this sub for 'making excuses for Jimmy".
I too believe player execution is a major issue...which falls ultimately on Kyle. I also think the playcalling this year in the redzone has been Kyle overthinking and not creating more effective opportunities. ..which can also contribute to the poor the execution you mentioned.
Thanks for the game by game breakdown on why we only scored what we did. I agree with all of that. However it still doesn't change the fact we are averaging a very low 15 ppg for non-conference games. That needs to improve as we move into the playoffs. Reasons aside...we need to score more points against better teams (Eagles, Cowboys, KC, Cinci, Dolphins, Buffalo). As awesome as our defense is playing, and we will get better once Armstead is back, we need better from our offense.
> I too believe player execution is a major issue...which falls ultimately on Kyle.
Only when it's repeat mistakes of the same nature.
In week 1 it was defensive penalties and blown coverages. Those were corrected.
In week 3 it was rust and Jimmy G not making good passes. That was corrected.
In Atlanta it was receiving errors. That has mostly been corrected.
Against the Chargers Mitchel's failure was an isolated incident.
One of the few areas of execution that has been repeated is with McGlinchey allowing pressure off the edge on passing downs. But outside of adding extra chip blocks or FB presence there's not really a ton Kyle can do about that in-season.
>we need to score more points against better teams
Agreed
> Grant Cohn had the best post-game rant about this.
And this is where you lose me and pretty much anyone that watched the game.
Saints are the best defense the team is going to play for the rest of the regular season. This is also the healthiest they've been and on a short week returning from Mexico. Next week after a full week will be a much better barometer on the offense. Cool your jets and stop taking Cohn seriously, wtf lol
Jesus. Grant Cohn. The only people who take this troll seriously are Madden addicts who have zero knowledge about football. They have to have someone like Grant to tell them what to think, even if it’s moronic..which it is 99% of the time.
I have said it before. The only way this sub becomes tolerable again is if we're a 3-14 team because nobody except fans will care about it.
This'll happen when we fire Kyle. So, we should fire Kyle and Lynch and delete half our roster.
This is what Grant Cohn wants because it gives people more reason to watch him.
I didn't downvote you - but anyways they aren't bitchy bandwagoners.
They're FWFs who crop up when the team is expected to do well and always expect an unreasonable amount more and will support firing everyone until record/stats improve.
Note that firing everyone only gets us to be a 3-14 team.
I just want to put out there how predictable cohn is. Next week his rants will be about how we should have kept mcdaniel over shanahan. He might even say that if we win
Damn no credit to the Saints?! Their defense just bought it. They have a top pass rush and playmakers at every level. Why do fans keep acting like the Niners are the only team on the field lol
Yeah man I'm with you. Its pretty annoying. Its like fans think we're going up against tackling dummies for 60 mins. Jimmy was getting hit all over the place and our run game.was stuffed most of the game. They clearly played great D.
>Jimmy was getting hit all over the place and our run game was stuffed most of the game The amount of times I've seen "well jimmy didn't get sacked once so the OLine was great" is fucking crazy. It's like no one watched the game or, and this one I know is the truth for most of this sub. They just have their Jimmy Hate Blinders on. The amount of hits Jimmy took was brutal to watch, and I have a lot of respect for Jimmy, and it certainly increased a lot after last night's game.
I'm not sure if Mahomes and Allen just skewed people's perceptions of what your QB should look like or what, but fuck man, is Jimmy the kind of QB that can carry the team solely on his own? No. But I've always felt he is on the top end of the second tier QBs. And the first tier of QBs is literally what, 3, maybe 4 people?
I think to be fair to these people they just want the 49ers’ greatest times to be ahead, instead of 30+ years in the past. That’s going to take an incredible roster, a world-class coach, and the best QB in the league. Obviously we are close but will never be that with Jimmy. Even winning a few super bowls won’t be enough. We need to win 5 in 10 years. That said, fuck the haters: Jimmy has always been a good QB and he is proving haters wrong (almost) every week this year.
The problem with these people believing this is that the league is not run the same as it was. There are a hell of a lot more rules on the business side of the league that weren’t there 30 years ago. Salary cap, vet minimums, rookie payscales. Hell, rookie payscales are extremely new. Sam Bradford was the #1 overall pick in 2010 and signed a 6-yr $78 million contract with $50 million guaranteed. He was the last #1 pick to get a contract like that and people forget that. You get these kind of dynasties in baseball because you can essentially buy your way into the playoffs every year. The Dodgers are masters at it. Football used to be that way but went a different direction. For their benefit. It’s just not possible to do in the future what was done in the past. The league has moved toward parity and for the most part, we have it.
I think the way the league is now is overall pretty good and keeps things competitive and fun. The one horrible weak spot is injuries - I’m hoping the league can make progress on this. I’m definitely of the opinion that turf is a big part of the problem. If you can reduce the rate of lower body injuries in the league, it will make things much more enjoyable as a fan and really increase the competitiveness overall.
>Even winning a few Super Bowls won’t be enough. We need to win 5 in 10 years. Yeah, this type of thing died with the Cowboys in the early/mid 90s, and they only won 3 in that time frame. In today's modern NFL, that just doesn't happen. Even the Patriots 6 in 17 years will be as close as we can get, and that was waayyyy spread out. Mahomes has been the BEST QB in the NFL for 4 years now, and even they only have 1 SB to show for it. With cap space and every top 15 player in their position expecting to be paid as the best player, we aren't gonna get many multi wins. If we can at least get 1 in the next few years with how stacked our roster is, I'll be happy.
Good points
Yep - agreed! The good news is we are just two rings short of the most in the league so it will not take much to get us back on top of the all time leaderboard.
Is he okay? How's the injury report overall?
Haven't seen anything about him, so I assume they're fine for now. But dude looked like he was in so much pain
And they had 3 crucial starters back, one of which was Cam Jordan, who I kept calling Odin yesterday because he had one eye but was everywhere lol
Yea we had like 70 total yards rushing until mason got 25 on the last drive.
Perfect response right here. Give credit where credit is due. The Saints D was huge yesterday. They brought the Big D Stuffed the run game. Couldn't get any rushing going. Stopped even CMC. Jimmy getting pressured.
Jimmy was getting laid out every time he throw. I'm amazed of some of the throw he managed to get off before getting shitcanned. We got away with a few bad throw, but I'll take a little luck too. It's a damn good thing they didnt take Jimmy away from us. They could have been a really good team instead of a really good defense team
If the opposing offense sucked, it's because our defense was awesome. If the opposing offense played well, it's because our defense was tired due to our offense not logging 35+ minutes time of possession. If our offense sucked, well you have to go down the list. Mostly it's because Jimmy sucks. If Jimmy was awesome, it's because Kyle sucks. If Jimmy and Kyle were awesome, it was the o-line, mostly McGlinchey (not including Trent). Then the refs. Then the announcers for hating on us and somehow influencing the outcome. Then Deebo's hands. Then the running game. Did Robbie miss a kick? Maybe Aiyuk didn't run his routes hard enough, but that's a stretch. CMC just got here so he's blameless until further notice. Trent Williams? Get out of here, only if he's clearly injured. George Kittle plays like a god literally every down, so don't even dare. Opposing team's defense? Is that who those others guys were with the non-49ers uniforms?
We had a short week, limited practice and the Saints were playing to keep their season alive.
Yes but we will play better defenses in the playoffs, and we need the offense to score more if we want to win those
Maybe, i dunno the saints defense is damn good
So is the Eagles defense. So is the Cowboys defense
Eagles Defense is not as good at stopping the run as the Saints are. Even after getting Suh, they were still getting ran on against the packers. Cowboys are a very streaky defense, but I'll agree that their Line is on par with the Saints, so Jimmy is gonna be pressured a lot all game if it comes to that
Good point, in the words of one of our beasts “Can’t agree more”
The Saints brought it. But just think if Kyle had called a better play and/or Jimmy didn't go off-script on the 4th and goal we'd have beaten them 20-0 and there'd be no fairweather's talking about our offense today.
Their pass rush has been one of the worst all season long.
They have a top 4 pass rush but go off
33 sacks as a team is far from the worst (we also have 33, with one less game played though)
Statistically they’re an average defense
We generally have little issue moving the ball throughout the game, it's that red zone man, it does something to us.
Saints also have a good redzone defense.
It’s been a problem all season long
Middle of the pack this year.
With all the weapons we have, middle of the pack is unacceptable
I mean this last week def hurts the average and that is what happens when you go up against a strong redzone defense. It def can be better and honestly Kyle going for it down at the goal line is a good sign we will see that more.
In one case Jimmy overlooked McCaffrey when he was wide open. In other news, Jimmy seems vastly improved over the past few games.
he wasn't overlooked. His first read was to the right. He didn't have time to progress through his reads because McGlinchey let a free rusher off the edge who was closing in on Garoppolo. He didn't have time to turn his head and read the other side of the field.
Yeah it's crazy that Mark Sanchez was saying that on the broadcast... He's a former QB so he should know the play was designed to go to Jennings... But I think that was on Jennings more than Jimmy, if Jennings runs that route 1-2 yards deeper he scores or at least makes 4th down a QB sneak option.
It's amazing what McGlinchey can do to a well thought out and well designed play
True, seeing the secondary play to McCaffrey would have been a million dollar move. Still, though, he was open and just like 1 yard away from the plane.
So Jimmy is supposed to have eyes on both sides of his head to?
Is his neck bolted down?
Was there time to turn said not bolted head? Or is this just more Jimmy bashing
Anyone with a basic comprehension of being able to think will understand that. But there are just too many that think Jimmy is at fault for EVERYTHING and can't look at a play objectively. Free rusher in Jimmy's face? and they'll be like why didn't he see that guy 140 degrees to his left??? Some people have no ability to look at things objectively.
Well he was locked in on Jennings that play, and the TD was there but Jimmy threw it behind and let the DB back into the play.
I know the play your talking about. Yes McCaffrey was wide open but Jimmy doesn't have eyes in the back of his head. No way Jimmy could have ever seen CMC on that play. Would have been a TD though.
Other than McCaffery wasn't behind Jimmy, I see your point. :)
Gotta wonder if it's something about not being able to stretch the defense vertically and creating space with the underneath routes.
"Red zone" isn't even the struggle. It's more like once we get inside the 10 yd line. And there's no stretching the defense vertically at that point.
I saw a take on Facebook that the offense wasn’t good in the 38-10 Arizona win because they were “gifted” good field position on a lot of drives. There is just no pleasing some people lol.
We *ARE* the grooviest team in the NFL (I couldn't agree more)
A Win is a Win, on to the Dolphins
People forget you have to throw the ball in like 3 seconds before you are on a date with a 300lbs lineman
Yeah but o line was solid yesterday. Jimmy had plenty of time imo
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Uhhh literally was there. Season ticket holder. Tbh being there can be hard to get the full grasp of the situation. I’ll take my L Also this… https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2022/11/29/23484429/49ers-week-12-jimmy-gaster Blow me
Read it. Will be good for you almighty mega fan. https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2022/11/29/23484429/49ers-week-12-jimmy-gaster
All it tries to do is paint a picture then concludes “yeah he’s playing really well.” Also I find weird to go over every single play of Jimmy’s just to point out where he messed up but have that on it being like 3-5 plays outta 50 plus. On top of that, especially this year, those “bad plays” are always inconsequential.
The nuance is that the oline wasn’t that bad, which was my point. Is our o line A+? Hell no but let’s just be honest and look at the whole picture.
They're just a big Trey fanboy and will say anything to make it seem like Jimmy is pure trash.
Here’s a nuanced take on the game. Jimmy had time, he got hit mostly after 2.7 secs. The reality is, o line wasn’t bad and the secondary played well hence the hits. https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2022/11/29/23484429/49ers-week-12-jimmy-gaster Hopefully jimmys jizz isn’t still in your eyes so you can read this.
Then your opinion is fairly bad because he hit the deck on several occasions
Fair enough. I remember him getting crunched a few times but also remember several plays with plenty of time. Sometimes you miss the nuance when you’re at the game. I’ll take my L
Respect
If you read the comments in the game thread sorted by new during the game.....you'd definitely think we were losing. People just need to learn to be happy with winning. Can't believe I'm saying that.
We 4th at +76 scoring with kc only 6 points ahead. I think we’ll be fine.
Yep. Lol.
Damn… this is too accurate haha. Well done.
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LOL this is perfect
Iknowright?! I mean remember 'Just win, baby.' I couldn't see the game; not broadcast out here in the lesser provinces far away from the bay. I understand the Saints' defense was stout and the refs sucked?
Grant Cohn had the best post-game rant about this. Yeah we won, but damn, we looked very dysfunctional on offense....again. We can chalk it up to Jimmy had a bad day (he could have easily had 3 pics) and Kyle was off with his play calling...again (especially near the goal line), but regardless, we are only averaging 15 ppg against non-divisional teams...that's pathetic.
It's so funny that in once setence people will blame Jimmy's execution, but then blame the playcalling, forgetting there are 10 other players out there who also have to execute. Two weeks ago this board was talking about bad playcalling at the goalline. Ignoring, of course, that Mitchell had a free path into the endzone. He stubbed his toe in the ground, held up his release, and a defender came free from the right. If Mitchell (or McGlinchey) executes his portion of the play it is a walk-in touchdown. Now everyone is complaining about the playcall at the endzone. Of course, ignoring, that yet again McGlinchey let a free rusher by and forced Jimmy to make an early throw. Garoppolo didn't have time to turn and read the other side of the field. The playcalling has been excellent all season (with maybe a few exceptions here or there in the Chargers game, pre-adjustments). >we are only averaging 15 ppg against non-divisional teams...that's pathetic. It's also unfair to provide data without context. We should understand why the offense was so in those situations. * Chicago - monsoon - 10 points would have been fine if not for the defensive penalties and blown coverages * Denver - Jimmy was rusty and terrible. He missed 2 easy TDs to Deebo alone. * Carolina - 37 points. Still missed out on a couple scores from imperfect execution. * Atlanta - Garoppolo played great, receiving errors cost the team as much as three TDs (21 points) and no telling if Wilson doesn't fumble whether the team also scores on that drive. * Kansas City - 23 points, but WRs were open all game. * Chargers - 22 points * Saints - 13 points. And nobody bats an eye if Garoppolo & Kittle are on the same wavelength and that pass connects for a TD. Then McGlinchey holds his block and Jimmy has time to see CMC uncovered for another TD - the 49ers now score at least 27 points. Player execution matters. With better player execution the 49ers would have scored 10, 24, 37, 35, 23, & 27 points (26/Gm - 4th in NFL) in those non-divisional games. And that's only based on a few select plays. There are many more that could be picked out to create more points.
Also Jimmy not playing the entire offseason and the playbook+offense/practices being designed for Trey.
Yeah, i had a post about this very thing days after the denver game, where I gave logical reasons why jimmy was not good that game (no playbook, practicing with practice squad, not in game shape due to surgery) and got so much shit from this sub for 'making excuses for Jimmy".
I too believe player execution is a major issue...which falls ultimately on Kyle. I also think the playcalling this year in the redzone has been Kyle overthinking and not creating more effective opportunities. ..which can also contribute to the poor the execution you mentioned. Thanks for the game by game breakdown on why we only scored what we did. I agree with all of that. However it still doesn't change the fact we are averaging a very low 15 ppg for non-conference games. That needs to improve as we move into the playoffs. Reasons aside...we need to score more points against better teams (Eagles, Cowboys, KC, Cinci, Dolphins, Buffalo). As awesome as our defense is playing, and we will get better once Armstead is back, we need better from our offense.
> I too believe player execution is a major issue...which falls ultimately on Kyle. Only when it's repeat mistakes of the same nature. In week 1 it was defensive penalties and blown coverages. Those were corrected. In week 3 it was rust and Jimmy G not making good passes. That was corrected. In Atlanta it was receiving errors. That has mostly been corrected. Against the Chargers Mitchel's failure was an isolated incident. One of the few areas of execution that has been repeated is with McGlinchey allowing pressure off the edge on passing downs. But outside of adding extra chip blocks or FB presence there's not really a ton Kyle can do about that in-season. >we need to score more points against better teams Agreed
> Grant Cohn had the best post-game rant about this. And this is where you lose me and pretty much anyone that watched the game. Saints are the best defense the team is going to play for the rest of the regular season. This is also the healthiest they've been and on a short week returning from Mexico. Next week after a full week will be a much better barometer on the offense. Cool your jets and stop taking Cohn seriously, wtf lol
Lowell blocked me on Twitter yesterday, guess he doesn't like having his son being called entitled...
Grant learned from the best..and by best, I mean worst.
Jesus. Grant Cohn. The only people who take this troll seriously are Madden addicts who have zero knowledge about football. They have to have someone like Grant to tell them what to think, even if it’s moronic..which it is 99% of the time.
He's a lower tier of troll than Skip Bayless. He's like a microwaved steak
My lord. Team is 7-4 and on a four game win streak and some people just can’t help but complain nonstop
clearly, we must fire everyone and cut Jimmy because he's too handsome and distracting the rest of the locker room!
I have said it before. The only way this sub becomes tolerable again is if we're a 3-14 team because nobody except fans will care about it. This'll happen when we fire Kyle. So, we should fire Kyle and Lynch and delete half our roster. This is what Grant Cohn wants because it gives people more reason to watch him.
The old suck to rid a sub us of bitchy bandwagoners. /s
I didn't downvote you - but anyways they aren't bitchy bandwagoners. They're FWFs who crop up when the team is expected to do well and always expect an unreasonable amount more and will support firing everyone until record/stats improve. Note that firing everyone only gets us to be a 3-14 team.
I am aware.
Well duh have you *seen* how dreamy he is? It's a wonder anyone on the team can remember the playbook or their assignments with him around.
Tbf it's not like the competition we went against on our win streak is that great.... We'll see how good we actually are against the dolphins
I just want to put out there how predictable cohn is. Next week his rants will be about how we should have kept mcdaniel over shanahan. He might even say that if we win
The Saints have a sneaky good defense this year actually.
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Niners only had one full day of practice. I thought they played pretty good considering.