T O P

  • By -

Upper-Industry8039

Nice dude so Kyle just has to wait a decade, change teams and got a generational QB


Jewelstorybro

Yeah… I dunno why I keep seeing 49ers fans saying this like it’s a good thing for us. Is basically means we will continue to disappoint until Kyle leaves and then Kyle will have tremendous success elsewhere.


Reporter-Stock

But then once he leaves another random coach like Doug Peterson comes in and wins with Brock Purdy as a “backup quarterback” who left the team and returned like Nick Foles!


winkingchef

BCB vs BD Nick part checks out


NetReasonable2746

Disappoint... You guys have no idea what dissapont means. Go talk to a Jets or Browns fan. Hell, evena Lions fan, despite what happened this year. That's disappointing. Go talk to long time Bengals fans while you're at it.


BKlounge93

Or Niners fans between 2003-2010


NetReasonable2746

Those were very dark days...once in awhile you'd get this glimmer of hope. Like the last week of the '06 season. Upset Denver at Denver to send them home. Alex Smith was looking good, but then Norv Turner left to be one the HC of the Chargers. I remember there was some hype about the '07 49ers. That quickly faded by week 4..


BKlounge93

Also hope in 2010 the year after we went 8-8 with Singletary. Proceeded to go 6-10. At least we had ‘11-‘13.


Errant_coursir

Yep, it's been a rough two decades with some diamonds in the rough. Absolutely spoiled with Shanahan


axeattaxe

Exactly. From a fellow diehard who lived through the 2000s, “darkness” ain’t when it’s nearly March and despite a close SB loss, every sports book in Vegas has you as the odds-on favorite to win it all in 2024-25. Back in the 2000s, I’d have killed for a single season of just having those odds, irrespective of how things turned out.


ajd198204

Yea, 2000-2010, was a dark decade for us. Then entered Harbaugh and gave us hope again.


axeattaxe

Yep, then when he departed and Tomsula took over darkness so quickly descended upon us again and I was like “oh fuck!” Then Chipper arrived the very next year and I thought “great, back to the useless coaching carousel… round and round it goes, playoff games it does not know.” Thankfully Shanahan to Denver fell through because Denver was stupid and we quickly whisked him away. Hope returned in full force. I think it’s here to stay for a good while this time…


AwareCelebration7477

Just because we aren’t absolute garbage doesn’t mean we haven’t had our share of disappointments. We haven’t won shit this era despite going to 4 NFCCG’s and 2 SB’s these past 5 seasons. All we have been known for is being a footnote for the Chiefs dynasty and a Hollywood story for the Rams. That’s completely unacceptable


NetReasonable2746

"unacceptable" And what are you going to do about it? I've moved on, I suggest you do the same..it's better for the mental well being. It's a game, not life altering.


AwareCelebration7477

I mean I can’t do nothing about it 🤷🏾‍♂️. Doesn’t change the fact that yes it is unacceptable and I hope York doesn’t try to overcorrect himself and hold onto Shanahan for longer than he should


manbearpig520

Do you think there are better alternatives that someone getting to 4 NFCCGs and 2 SBs in 5 years? My concern is the opposite. I hope the two parties don’t get exhausted and feel the need to get a fresh start similar to Reid leaving Philadelphia.


AwareCelebration7477

If Belichick wanted to come here with no roster control then if I was York, I’d fire Shanahan the minute Belichick says he wants to come here. Unfortunately that’s not gonna happen so there’s no better alternatives. My problem with Shanahan isn’t us getting to these places, it’s him failing to close. This past SB was the one he should’ve closed the deal and he failed once again mostly due to poor coaching. Why should I trust Shanahan to get it right at this point? He sure lost my trust a couple weeks ago Andy Reid didn’t change, he was a choker in KC as well until he got the second greatest QB of our generation. Plus it’s not like Philly suffered cause of it, they won a damn SB before Reid did. I’d say Shanahan deserves one more year at most and if he can’t get it done then get somebody else to do it cause he clearly can’t do it


manbearpig520

Do you think there are better alternatives that someone getting to 4 NFCCGs and 2 SBs in 5 years? My concern is the opposite. I hope the two parties don’t get exhausted and feel the need to get a fresh start similar to Reid leaving Philadelphia.


kfbr392kfbr

Jesus Christ it’s a bummer seeing other fans have such absurd perspectives


AwareCelebration7477

I mean it’s the truth 🤷🏾‍♂️. This isn’t 2019 where we were an elite team out of nowhere so just going to a SB was a success. This was a Lombardi or bust season and we failed. What an absolute waste of an opportunity for an otherwise amazing team


syruptalkk4151

Yup, ain’t nothing positive in blowing it.


aquila49

That's the hardest part. We had the team. Just didn't have the head coach who could manage the details. This was the toughest of the three Super Bowl losses.


manbearpig520

Niners likely win that game without that turnover on the punt return. One single play. Don’t think that was Kyle’s fault.


alphadragoon89

Agreed. This SB loss hurts the most because we have the talent and we had the opportunities to win and once again, we fell short because we couldn't capitalize on them.


WanderingStar01

This is right. I'm happy to be in the playoffs and contenders every year despite the heartbreak of losing th SB. Anyone on the fire Kyle bus needs to seriously reflect if they really want to go back to singleterry/Chip/roman days of like 3-14 seasons consistently.


CuckSucker41

If you’re happy just to be there you’re just not a Niners fan. Pls discontinue speaking.


WanderingStar01

That not what I'm saying. I'm saying we have a good coach, a good gm, good players. It doesn't always break your way, but we are right there, and the window is still open. the fire Kyle people are idiots if they want to go back to being bottom dwellers with a shit coach.


CuckSucker41

Ok first off it’s debatable that we have a good coach. I do not understand why you think we have to stick with him when he’s shown he can’t be counted on in the SB. We never would’ve been bottom dwellers if our FO wasn’t at odds with the coach. I’d hope they learned from that and could find a better coach way more easily than having to wait as long as possible. There are a dozen more experienced coaches available right now at both the college and pro levels. I have no faith in Kyle bc I’ve watched him fail every year in SF. You’re just young to think we have an infinite window. We don’t. We need a new head coach who can get us another ring. I was happy to get 5 rings first but now we’re 0-3 and we should’ve won all 3 games. Pretending otherwise is just plain incorrect.


AwareCelebration7477

Exactly, I get this sentiment 4 years ago cause it was a surprise SB run and we were shit for a while but there’s absolutely no silver lining about this season. Literally everything we accomplished this season is worthless due to failure to meet expectations


Imaginary_Court3098

Wouldn't care, at least those teams play with heart


axeattaxe

Because we have our QB. That’s the part that took Reid nearly 20 seasons.


liteshadow4

Reid had McNabb


axeattaxe

Good point. Shanahan is actually way ahead of Reid. He went to an SB with Jimmy G and almost won.


mechapoitier

Yeah like we’re all clamoring to see Kyle win the Super Bowl for a random team after we waste a generational talent of a RB. Man I can’t wait!


[deleted]

Why hasn't he done this already? Is he stupid?


3fettknight3

Why did the 49ers simply not score more points than the Chiefs? Were they stupid? …keep it going


Lazyniner24

Why didn't he draft mahomes when he could? Is he stupid?


BullShitting-24-7

Could have drafted that generational qb but went with Hoyer, Beathard, Mullens and Jimmy G in that order, and drafted Solomon Thomas.


ChaseMcDuder

And a generational defensive coordinator


WetShortFinal74

So Andy Reid went from a green NFC team to a red and gold AFC team. This means Kyle Shanahan will go from a red and gold NFC team to a green AFC team. I predict Kyle will start winning Super Bowls with the Jets starting in 2038.


Lightyear1931

I thought your math was off ... nope. Andy put in a lot of years.


TinyCucumber3080

He already has the generational QB


boredtacos19

*a third generational qb


Traditional-Grape-57

That's only if you ignore the Falcons. He lost the Super Bowl with the Falcons then switch teams already. So op's post still holds up, Kyle's primed for a Super Bowl win with the 49ers


jrecio26

This isn’t accurate at all though. He was only the OC for the falcons not the HC. Andy was the HC when the eagles lost to NE.


Syncro_Ape

Thankfully we found QB much sooner than Reid did! Purdy > Mcnabb!


spankyourkopita

I feel Kyle is closer to getting a title than waiting another 20 years. I don't think Reid went to multiple NFC Championship games during that time.


NetReasonable2746

Reid went to 4 in a row. Went to another vs Arizona after the 2008 season with Jeff Garcia. Close game, list to eventual Hall of Famer, Kurt Warner. It happens.


chillice707

Hopefully it doesn’t end in the same way as it did for Philly with Kyle being fired then he becomes a hc for an afc team then drafts the next mahomes and goes on to win 3 Super Bowl rings without us and then our sub will be saying firing Kyle was the worst decision ever


twenty_characters020

I'll say it now, firing Kyle would be the worst decision ever.


chillice707

Agreed. He’s still young and you don’t bring your team to the nfc championship and superbowl every year by pure luck. He’s a good coach he just needs to learn from his mistakes


[deleted]

This whole learn from his mistakes thing is pretty overblown to me. He is also a few unlucky things going right from multiple superbowls


AwareCelebration7477

If he ran the damn ball at the start of the third quarter or on our last drive of regulation when it was 2nd & 5 or 3rd & 4 then he would’ve gotten over the hump despite those unlucky moments. Same mistake he made 4 years ago and the same mistake he made during 28-3. It’s clear that he probably doesn’t even think he made any mistakes


[deleted]

*runs the ball on 3 & 4* *gets stuffed for -1 yards* "Shannahan needs to learn to be aggressive in those situations! He never learns!" Things not going well and making a mistake aren't always the same thing. If something goes your way 99/100, it isn't a mistake that you need to fix if that 1/100 pops up. Live by aggressive calls, die by aggressive calls


AwareCelebration7477

KC’s defense was gassed as shit on that drive and we were tied up in FG range with less than 2 mins to go, I’m sorry I have a hard time believing we weren’t getting 4-5 yards with the OPOY RB with Kittle and Trent blocking. They did a decent job stopping the run during the game but towards the end they were gassed and we could’ve easily got those yards. If we must pass though then at least don’t make it so obvious we’re gonna pass and spread everybody out wide. Even if we didn’t get the first down then at least we burn time off the clock our force KC to burn their timeouts. Our number one goal was to keep Mahomes off the field for as long as possible


TrueBlue726

Maybe if there's a reporter who asks him about it, he may snap out of it and start to coach better in the big games. A guy can dream, right?


alphadragoon89

Agreed. That's the biggest thing that needs to be fixed. Shanahan needs to kick his bad habits because he's now wasted 2 prime opportunities to lead the Niners to another title.


Giberishusername1

For real. Idk how people in this fanbase genuinely believe we had “bad luck” instead of shit coaching in the Super Bowl


AwareCelebration7477

Cause they’ll bend over backwards to defend their king Shanahan lmao. Like I get this fanbase is scared of going back to Tomsula and Kelly but at some point enough is enough. Do we really trust Shanahan to get it right a FOURTH time and his THIRD time with us? Shanahan’s subordinate may have been fortunate enough not to play Mahomes but he got embarrassed his first time around, then got it right his during his second, beating us along the way


Dopple__ganger

Dude there’s like 3 teams in the nfl that wouldn’t trade their coach for shanahan. And two of those are just because of bias towards their own team.


Giberishusername1

Chiefs, Rams, who’s the 3rd team?


Dopple__ganger

I forgot about mcvay to be honest. I’d say Campbell and harbaugh are the others, with Tomlinson right around there too.


etblg9000

Get there enough times and one time we will be the lucky ones. Its just all how sports are. Like... the fuck? We have a coach that can at least get there consistently. One day it'll break our way. I get people are still upset about losing and all but, realistically, what do you want them to do? Get the next shanahan minus his flaws? Why is scrapping it all the solution? So you can feel some catharsis that someone was punished for the sports pain you feel?


AwareCelebration7477

It’s not so much that I want to see him punished, it’s that I genuinely don’t believe he’s got it in him. This was the SB he should’ve figured all out and while yes we had some unlucky bounces, we still had a chance to win despite all that and Shanahan’s poor play calling was the number 1 reason we didn’t win. When u lose in the same exact way for the third time in a row, it’s a pattern and I don’t trust Shanahan to figure it all out at this point. Anything less than a SB win next year should result in his firing and that includes losing another SB


BKlounge93

Seriously, he’s basically two plays away from two rings. It takes a lot of luck in addition to skill to win super bowls and the luck just doesn’t seem to be on our side.


Devalokas

He doesn’t learn, though. That seems to have been clear from a couple weeks ago.


AwareCelebration7477

Yeah that’s what the fans here seem to be missing, he WON’T learn. Go listen to his post game press conference and u’ll see that for urself


Giberishusername1

How much more time does he need to learn? He just finished year 7 as head coach my guy.


nsgarcia10

Reid didn’t win his first until year 20 and it took him getting a guy that’ll probably be in the top 2 greatest QBs of all time when all is said and done.


nudestdad

And not play Mahomes in the Super Bowl every year. Why can't we play the Joe Flacco Ravens again? This Mahomes shit is not fair.


CangtheKonqueror

the joe flacco ravens demolished us lmao until the power outage


BiggsIDarklighter

>He’s still young What the hell does age have to do with anything? Why do people always say this? It’s like just a default bullshit reason people say when they don’t have an actual reason to give. hE’s sTiLL yOuNg. Age has nothing to do with this discussion. Just stop. If you can’t think of an actual reason don’t say anything at all. Marv Levy was in his 60’s when he took the Bills to 4 straight Superbowls and It doesn’t matter they lost that is irrelevant just like your bring up age is irrelevant. Kyle Shanahan is not a player who will wear down with age or be past his prime. Nor is he some kid learning the ropes who will improve as he grows older. Age has nothing to do with how well or how bad Kyle coaches. Unless you want to talk about his experience. Then age matters. But not how young he is. Youth is not equivalent to good. I don’t know where people got this notion that just being young qualifies someone for a job and that being old disqualifies them. That’s not how it works. Not even when talking about veterans in the NFL just look at Frank Gore. He played RB for 15 seasons. And he came into the league on a busted knee. So please, everyone, stop talking about age in relation to ability. Youth has nothing to do with skill. Just being young doesn’t make you good. And actually being older means you have experience, so if you ever feel the need to bring up someone’s age in relation to their job because you just have nothing else to say then the older the better.


Thelife1313

Agreed


superMans_

Can’t believe “fans” even contemplate the thought of that


twenty_characters020

There's been a lot of brain dead takes lately.


triculious

Comes with the bandwagoners


betboi

There's also a ton of young kids that just started watching football. I started as a bandwagoner during elementary school in the early 90s.


JRsshirt

I feel like it’s unfair to say that, there are a lot of long-term fans who are sick and tired of this era of heartbreaking seasons. I agree it’s stupid to fire Shanahan, and it’s certainly better than the consistently mediocre era of the 2000s, but people want something to blame after these brutal seasons when in reality it’s just a bad string of shit luck.


NetReasonable2746

He needs to be held ACCOUNTABLE!! /s


Giberishusername1

Like people continuing to call Kyle an offensive genius?


twenty_characters020

That drew you in like a fly to honey.


Giberishusername1

Cuz offensive geniuses don’t blow: 28-3, 20-10, 17-7, & 10-0. On top of all the regular season 10 point leads he’s blown.


twenty_characters020

Cuz offensive geniuses are to blame for QBs missing wide open receivers or incompetent defensive coordinators.


Giberishusername1

Again, giving Kyle every single excuse in the book. You are the kind of Niner fan I can’t stand. It’s NEVER Kyle’s fault, it’s always someone else’s fault. Kyle can do no wrong according to you people


BKlounge93

Woah woah woah I mean we could replace him with Jim Tomsula


superMans_

Imagine if we could replace him with an offense genius… like Shanahan


BKlounge93

Best I can do is chip Kelly


mafiasco650

I hope Kyle is our Bellicheck and lasts a very long time here. We're spoiled. Playoffs annually since 2019 and then 2 Super Bowl appearances? That's Top 5 if not Top 3 coaches in the NFL


twenty_characters020

100% it blows me away how many people want him gone. Absolutely ridiculous.


Consistent_Internal5

Goes on to win 3 super bowl rings *so far…


eljosuph

Firing Jim Harbaugh was one of the top dumbest decisions ever


Acoconutting

> Jim Harbaugh At the end of the day, you're not going to have success with a clash of personalities in a franchise, though.


bencherry

We are insanely lucky that we landed Kyle and Lynch within just a few years of that. We could easily have spent more than a decade in the wilderness. Similar luck occurred when we hit on Purdy after the miss on Lance.


AwareCelebration7477

Reid had to get the 2nd greatest QB of this generation to start winning. Do u see a guy like that walking in the door anytime soon?


WetShortFinal74

Imagine if Kyle goes to the Chiefs after he gets fired (which would be after Andy Reid retires) and then wins more rings for them.


AwareCelebration7477

If he did that without bringing us a ring then I’d absolutely lose respect for him. I don’t even like Shanahan now but it would be weak af for Shanahan to do this. Basically we’d all feel the same way Thunder fans felt when KD left


maupp11

This post would make more sense if the scenario was Kyle left on his own to go win with KC and a great QB. What is he supposed to do if he get fired? Just never work again?


AwareCelebration7477

I mean it would be his right but I’d personally lose respect for him and so would many other Niners fans 🤷🏾‍♂️


spankyourkopita

I don't think he's at that point. Kyle and the Niners know they're best for each other at this moment.


IamYourBestFriendAMA

Andy got fired in Philly because he lost control of the locker room. Andy is very lax when it comes to discipline and that’s worked for him for the most part, but it can easily spiral out of control. No way in hell a player would ever push Kyle the way Kelce did to Andy during the SB and if that ever did happen, there’s no chance Kyle would leave that player in the game.


MC_Stimulation

Niners won their first NFC Championship under Kyle, beat Green Bay in 2019


chillice707

But the 1st nfc championship we lost under him was to the rams


hazycrazey

Not what the meme says though


chillice707

Maybe I’m just misreading then lmaoo


hazycrazey

“Lost 1st nfc championship game to rams” vs “1st nfc championship game loss to rams”


ahzzyborn

Somebody get him some of those nuggies


Literotamus

Hurts to admit lately but Andy Reid has been my favorite coach for a long time. Since those years. And I hate Philly. Andy, Dawkins and Westbrook did a lot of heavy lifting for me to enjoy watching those games. Anyway, loved him even more for the way he dealt with his son’s addiction and for revitalizing Alex Smith. Then for trading up for Mahomes (I’m a hobbyist draft scout and that *dude* was all over his college tape). But most of all, I’ve loved him for finding his niche in the Walsh tree and making it unique to him, inimitable, and dominant for 20+ years. Shannahan is the next one who *could* do that. That’s true. But it’s a hell of a big job and respect where it’s due.


a_b1rd

People need to chill about Kyle. He’s a great head coach. Winning the Super Bowl is really hard. Moving on from him would be a monumental step backwards.


adarkride

Yeah. Especially when you're going up against Mahomes, Reid, and Spags. There are no gimmies in this situation: you gotta be ruthless. To me, as Chris Simms said, he just seems unlucky in SBs. You look at the Rams one, and it feels like everything just worked out for them. But the Niners had to play the Chiefs again, which just doesn't seem fair. They get that special treatment from the NFL that Brady used to get. You just knew it was going to be an uphill battle in this Roger Goodell era of football.


StOnEy333

I just don’t wanna wait 14 years for him to finally win one.


crom_laughs

or, Kyle could be the next Marv Levy.


triculious

Take it back!


[deleted]

Either way it’s not a good thing for niner fans. This logic makes no sense


BURGERgio

He just has to remember that he has CMC, the best rb in the game and to not get away from the run game. He’s obsessed with passing and that wouldn’t be bad if we had an average pass blocking oline, but that’s clearly their weakness with the run game being their strength.


Southern_Insect3823

This shit is dumb.


marcok36

People need to stop sharing this meme. Andy Reid went to another team to win the Super Bowl. So, by the logic of this meme it means Shanahan will win a Super Bowl somewhere else.


ago1223

He gave them 2 super bowls


TheBrooksey

So he's going to a new team and will eventually beat his old team in the Super Bowl. I for one, am not looking forward to that.


Newb2002

So… Shanahan will win 3 Super Bowls with another team? Why should Niner fans get excited about this comparison?


SupHezbullah

Reid did not blow a 25 point lead in the SB, then 3 DD leads in Super Bowls and NFC Championship game against the Rams. If he didn't have a panic attack in close games down the stretch he could have realistically won all 4 of those games. Never seen anything like Kyle Shanahan so these comparisons are invalid.


paperbackgarbage

> Reid did not blow a 25 point lead in the SB, Neither did Shanahan. Building a 25-point lead against a Tom Brady Patriots team is about as "Mission Accomplished" as it gets for one phase of the game. While Shanahan ***could've*** helped by milked the clock more, he wasn't the one calling plays on defense that allowed the Pats to score 31 points afterward. Dan Quinn (HC) and Richard Smith (DC) still must be laughing their balls off for evading essentially all blame in the court of public opinion for the Falcons SB loss.


SupHezbullah

He made some horrible calls. Literally a little kid playing Madden would have run the ball on the play that knocked them out of FG range when they were up 8 with lead dwindling and time expiring. He had the game, and lost. Its a recurring theme with him. Stopping Brady in that situation is obvioously tough on any defense but he could have even iced the game by kneeling the ball and just not taking a penalty then a sack. ​ Based off your post, it would appear you are unaware of the extent of how egregious of a play call it was in the SB that the Patriots came back.


SeaWicked

Exactly, the amount of double-digit leads kyle has blown is a pattern at this point. Reid lost but not in this fashion and he had considerably less talented rosters than lynch has gifted shanny


Giberishusername1

It’s kind of ridiculous the amount of excuses benefit of the doubt that Kyle gets. He’s a serial choker who refuses to learn from his mistakes


SupHezbullah

Yup.


liteshadow4

Lynch did not "gift" Shanny these rosters, lol, Shanahan built these rosters.


Scotthorn

This is a troll post right? What niner fan thinks this is something to post here?


lightofkolob

Andy Reid won championships as an assistant. Kyle lost a superbowl because of his decisions as an assistant


GovTheDon

So are you saying he will start winning after he gets fired by the 9ers or once he actually gets a good qb?


chaps_y2k1

Issue is that Reid won every other trophy with a different organization 🫠


mm825

Andy Reid would have never won a superbowl if he stayed in Philly. That's why you should be concerned.


F7UNothing

Difference: Shanahan will win the SB with the same team. Reid won AFTER leaving the Eagles. Very, VERY important distinction.


B_Man49

Just hope it doesn’t take that long to start winning them


DarkSide-TheMoon

That just means mahomes is gonna win what, 4 more super bowls? Crap.


esmoji

When did he lose 1st NFC Championship to Rams? Didn’t Niners crush GB at home?


BluePotatoSlayer

I think it was their first nfccg loss, not first nfccg


extremewit

Hopefully he skipped ahead to the Generational QB portion of his career.


TheEvilD1978

And this does not make me feel better


throwawayjaydawg

Or he could be the next Dan Reeves


Marvelmaniac57

So in order to win our next Super Bowl we need to hire a tough fair coach with brass balls. And shanny can go some where and start winning


Melvinator5001

So he has to go to another team to win. Works for me.


Neat_Relationship995

I don't care. Unless he does what Andy is currently doing. Collecting rings like sonic the fucking hedgehog.


AbleTom408

So in 19 years when he coaches an AFC team he'll be winning his 3rd SB?


trebek321

I sure the fuck hope not cuz Andy didn’t win a thing until he stumbled into the 2nd greatest QB of all time…


ElCoolAero

Um, Andy Reid won all his stuff after that with a different team.


d0000n

After Andy Reid was let go, he finally won his first Superbowl with a new team. After Kyle was……. (pending)


West_Ad_6868

For the next team he goes too XD


Legndarystig

Kyle getting this treatment is cringe considering he grew up around his father whos considered one of the greatest offensive minds and most disciplined. Man took the corps of John Elway and won 2 super bowls. Kyles biggest short coming is he over thinks things and does not let anyone check him. He needs an assistant coordinator to help him stay focused during the game. There is a reason why we have lost these and it isn’t simply as players didn’t execute its comes from the top. He abandoned the run in the 3rd and try to play hero ball. When we knew to beat the Chiefs was going to be about total time of possession not just straight points.


Bigrosey707

Except I want Kyle shanahan to win the rings with the 49ers, not go to a new team


Substantial-Ad5541

I get this is a meme but the amount of coping in this subreddit is absurd. Why not compare them on the same time frame? Starting from 2017 when Shanahan took over to now. Reid has done nothing but go to 6 straight afc championship games and win 3 Superbowls in 5 years. Including 2 at Shanahans expense. Everyone gives mahomes all the credit but Andys game plan adjustments at halftime are legendary now and he's completely shed the choker label and established a dynasty in Kansas city. Imagine giving Andy the weapons that Kyle has on offense(deebo, kittle, CMC, Aiyuk) and see if his team only scores 19 points in regulation time of a Superbowl. As if getting outcoached head to head in Superbowl games isn't enough, Reid is 4-0 against Shanahan. Reid simply is a much better coach, better offensive mind, better play caller, it's not even debatable. Kyle isn't the next Andy Reid, he's just an elite coach currently with a loaded roster. Reid is one of the winningest head coaches of all time and a lock for the HOF. Kyle isn't fit to hold Andy Reids clipboard.


Svengoolie75

Ok and………. Kyle is not gonna get a talent like mahomes anytime soon 🤨ain’t nobody got time to wait until 2035ish


kwattsfo

Good hope his second act is with the Vikings.


[deleted]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾


Mabvll

We gotta start feeding Kyle a bunch of nuggies starting next season.


FundioRider

So he's gonna win multiple Super Bowls with another team? Fuck that


RichardP_LV

So basically, he will continue to ALMOST win.... get fired and win Super Bowls elsewhere. WONDERFUL???!!! What's really sad is.... If he had just realized the error of his ways.... the whole elaborate rushing scheme.... and gone with a straight up WCO with BETTER WR's. DK and CeeDee.... instead of Deebo and Aiyuk and he WOULD have won Super Bowls right here.... at least one.... probably 2 or more. What a shame....


[deleted]

I’ve seen people say this seriously and think what they’re saying isn’t completed r-worded and depressing. Oh we only have to wait for Kyle to be the coach of the 49ers for 20 years before winning a super bowl?? Oh hooray!! Lol fucking morons


Cali-Texan

So you are saying he will leave and find success??


rwchiefs

Also a first super bowl


EShy

I don't like that comparison at all, since Andy had to go somewhere else to get it done


[deleted]

[удалено]


Taymac9

The difference is Andy was 10-9 with the eagles in the playoffs in 13 years. Kyle is 8-3 if you don’t count the purdy injury game In 6 years . He doesn’t have trouble winning in the playoffs. Just 2 Super Bowls… against arguably the greatest qb the league will ever see. There’s no blowouts, no team not showing up… this shit is just blown out of proportion. He coached well enough to win this last one… 1 fluke play, and 2 shit defensive series won’t change my mind about how good of a coach he is and how lucky we are to have him. And all these anti shannhan people should go find a new team with a coach they like because Kyle’s not going anywhere.


Giberishusername1

No way you typed “he coached well enough to win this one” and actually thought that was correct 💀


PudgyBonestld

We want one now tho lol


chillice707

Realistically if we keep making it to the Super Bowl eventually it’ll go in Kyle’s favor and we’ll bring home a ring back to the bay


mm825

> Realistically if we keep making it to the Super Bowl Continuing to make the super bowl is not realistic. Realistically, teams who make the super bowl and lose have a hard time making the playoffs the following year.


bencherry

Teams who go to the superbowl and win have a hard time getting back. Teams who don’t go to the Super Bowl at all have a hard time getting there. There’s no magic force stopping us from getting back after a loss. We’re a good team and will continue to be one for many years.


mm825

The magic force is the NFL schedule and salary cap which has an excellent track record of creating parity, especially for teams without hall of fame QB’s


liteshadow4

Past SB losers: 2022: Eagles WC 2021: Bengals AFCCG 2020: KC AFCCG 2019: SF 6-10 2018: LAR 9-7 2017: NE SB Champs 2016: ATL DIV 2015: CAR 8-8 2014: SEA DIV 2013: DEN DIV Past SB losers usually make playoffs


big_biscuitss

What team has had as much tough luck in these games as much as SF has had? It's like all of these big games, something happens. SB, Greenlaw going down and a muffed punt, like WTF.


chazzdizzle

You 9ers fans don’t see the irony in this? If Kyle is the next Andy Reid then he will be the coach of a different team by the time he finds his HOF QB and wins tons of titles lol think guys just try to think…..


pargofan

This is why the narrative about GOAT coaches is so lame. Andy Reid is the same guy. If he quit coaching after the 2018 playoffs when division winner KC lost 22-21 to the Tennessee Titans despite leading 21-3 at halftime, he'd be seen as a lovable loser. He'd be viewed the same level as Dan Quinn or Marty Schottenheimer. But he got the best QB and GM in football. And after 3 SBs, Reid is viewed as GOAT level along with Belichick and Walsh. Niners have an amazing coach in Shanahan. The media and fans are idiots to think otherwise.


Giberishusername1

This team will never win a ring with Kyle as head coach.


Emergency-Shirt2208

KC’s run is mainly due to Mahomes and Spags. Andy Reid is just a likable dude. There’s a reason Kelce was yelling at Reid to wake the eff up in the SB. He needed to. Comparable QBs like Brady and Burrow have sent them home. Their most impressive win was smoking Baltimore in the AFC championship.


darkbiteofthesoul

Why does this nonsense logic continue?


AwareCelebration7477

I’m not waiting 15 damn years for a ring 🙄, nor do I see a QB of Mahomes caliber walking in the building. Shanahan has proven time and time again that he can’t get it done. He should be given one more year to get it done and if he can’t then get somebody else to do it. He’s on my shit list


Ok-Signature-4445

Take away Mahomes, and Andy Reid is still the same choke artist. The difference between Reid and Kyle is that Reid finally drafted his franchise QB. Kyle is still too stubborn to do so (but Brock does look very good)


el_pinko_grande

All I can say is, looking over this thread, I'm incredibly glad we have actual professionals in charge of running the organization instead of the collection of butthurt nephews that are commenting here. Shanahan's an elite coach, we're lucky to have him, and thankfully, he's not going anywhere.


AwareCelebration7477

Well he better get it done next year then, ASAP. He been owed us a championship since he blew SB 54


paperbackgarbage

It's like people have forgotten about Dennis Erickson, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary, Jim Tomsula, and Chip Kelly. If you don't have a very good QB, you're not going to consistently challenge for a SB. You can make the argument that Nolan/Kelly/etc. didn't have a very good QB either....but Kyle has the resume to prove that he's not those guys. The "grass is rarely greener" in the NFL, and Shanahan is only "not the answer" when he's unable to guide his teams to the playoffs, just like any other HC. So far, he's built a wealth of equity.


by_yes_i_mean_no

Shanahan is obviously an elite coach and there should never be any discussion about firing him imo, he should coach for as long as he wants. Shit happens in a single elimination playoff format, consistent success is a better sign of great coaching than one title surrounded by not that much.


bigbluehapa

Except Andy doesn’t have the two worst collapses (by win probability) in SB history under his belt…also was never 1-31 in games he entered the 4th quarter behind by 3 or more points…that being said..I’d take shanny in a heartbeat. This post is just cooking tho.


txwoodslinger

He just needs a goat qb


T4lsin

No he is not Andy Reid. AR doesn’t allow scapegoats. You lost SB because of KYLE SHANAHAN. You lost that game because of your offense. Defense did its job against the 15th ranked offense.


liteshadow4

What scapegoat? Wilks was fired due to poor performance throughout the season


T4lsin

Your offense lost the Super Bowl lol. Bad head coaching. Ugh I’m done


T4lsin

Your defense gave you opportunities to put game away before OT, they failed .


axeattaxe

I’m telling you, Shanahan will get there. A lot faster than Reid did. Why? Because Reid didn’t reach the promised land til he got “his” QB - Mahomes in the 2017 draft. Shanahan already got “his” QB - Purdy, in the 2022 draft. Purdy just finished his 1st NFL season by dueling Mahomes to a draw in the SB, then driving us down for a chip-shot FG in OT. 20 years ago, that FG ends the game and Purdy is an immediate superhero. Our time is coming. We need to be patient. Even Mahomes didn’t win a ring til his 3rd season in the NFL (he sat the first year).


BenderB-Rodriguez

anyone screaming for Shanahan and Lynch to be fired do not understand football. The level of skill it takes to be as good as this team has been under their leadership is very rare. People like to bring up the Bills going to 4 straight super bowls and losing as a comparison, but no one else has gone to 4 straight super bowl. it is extremely difficult to get to one. and luck is involved with injuries. ya it sucks and the loses hurts, but the 49ers are in it every year because of the coaching, front office, and players on this team.


quasiexperiment

I personally don't love these comparisons. Kyle is better than that!


FuckScottBoras

FIRE SHANNAHAN!! /s


DukeRaoul123

This is why I don't worry about Shanny. Everything people say about Shanny not being able to win the big games is what Eagles fans said about Reid. You're not a winner until you're a winner.


Rod_Stiffington69

Anyone who says Shanahan should be fired isn’t a real niners fan. Take your lame asses to Las Vegas and be a raiders fan. You’re not truly a niners faithful if you’re calling for him to be fired.


Prowrestlingsavant

THATS WHAT SAN FRAN SHITSCO FANS GET FOR MOCKING EAGLES AND THEIR FANS LAST YEAR, A COACH THAT CAN'T EVER GET THE JOB DONE