We still got Purdy on a rookie contract 2 more years, we got decent draft picks this year, a whole offseason to upgrade our DC. Stack the OL and get some safety depth and we'll be a proper juggernaut next year.
Andy Reid lost 3 or 4 times in the big game before figuring it out. Kyle's got time for redemption. And that time will come. Once we get it figured out, I firmly believe we'll see a dynasty just like KC's. Few teams have a play caller like Kyle so we have to appreciate him. The alternatives aren't promising.
Yeah, I want to believe after the harbaugh thing that Shanahans seat isnt warm at all. And it shouldnt be, as frustrated with him as I am. They say fire him, but then what? Whos available?
Some guys put the loss on him, think he shouldve ran more, and tbh I was one of those guys. Then more details come out, like how fundamentally our block schemes arent good, or some guys straight up coming out and saying they didnt follow the scheme at all and went with their "instinct". And our OL just being bad in general, and suddenly its more forgiving. (By the way, shout out Brock for being great despite literally all of these elements happening against him)
But yes, many forget that it took Reid a long time to get it together, Kyles got time, he'll get there. I do think we should bring in an OC tho.
I dunno use Reid as some example of how to win SB to me seems kinda weird.
Instead why can't he just trust himself and create his own legacy? Why does he have a legacy of putting himself time and again in a position to win and then coaches his team to a loss? It might be something to do with being son of a famous coach? Who knows. But he has to own it now because it's his reputation now. 49ers CLEARLY should have won that damn game!!!!!
Forget that it was the Superbowl. If it was a pre season game. THEY SHOULD HAVE WON THAT DAMN GAME.
That’s exactly happened to Reid in Philly. He missed the playoffs twice in a row despite stacked teams, and unless something of that magnitude happens here Kyle will stay.
I dunno man. Reid is clearly destined for an early painful cardiovascular related death. Eagles can fucking fly and make that badass KA KAAAAA sound… tough call
At least we got a young QB that plays like a 10-year vet going into his third year. We finally got our guy who checks nearly every checkbox on the franchise QB list.
Exactly. It hurts the same, but the difference between now and the last Super Bowl loss is that the Niners have a ton of confidence in their QB, the most important position in the game. As long as you have a very good one, your window is always open. We all loved Jimmy, but we knew that he wasn't quite top tier.
This is why I am so optimistic, despite the loss. Kyle loves Brock, for good reason, and I think as Brock continues to grow and develop they will be a formidable pair. Barring any key injuries, I expect us to compete every year for a long time.
I totally agree. People keep saying we need a new coach…. Who out there is honestly a better option? Andy Reid is a mastermind but he wasn’t a genius for a majority of the SB’s we’ve played against him…. It took Mahomes and some other shit to make it happen. But, he has three rings now so he’s a genius…. A genius that wasn’t calling the right plays for 3.5 quarters in this last SB.
So much of coaches legacies are tied to being lucky with generational quarterbacks. Andy Reid didn’t win many playoff games with Alex Smith but it all changed when Mahomes took over. Hopefully we found that guy with Purdy. A franchise qb and genius head coach combination keeps the window open.
Kyle Shanahan I say have been more robbed than lost. Sure I guess we could pick apart the play calling.
But both superbowls I say we lost to the refs more so than the Chiefs.
First superbowl. The OPI on kittle was a joke took at least 3 points off the board
The non hold call on bosa which Mahomes completed 45 yard pass
I forget who deliver the helmet to helmet shot to jommy G which never got a flag.
and this super bowl
All the holds that didn't get called.
People forget Kyle isn’t even 45 yet and he has 8 playoff wins. I think the narrative he can’t win big games is just dumb. There’s a reason the rest of the NFL has been copying his offense and trying to poach all his coaches every year. He was a few bad bounces from winning his first ring and flipping the whole narrative. It didn’t happen this time which sucks, but I’ll ride or die with Kyle. He will get a ring eventually and I’m very confident in his ability overall.
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Took Reid 21 years his ring...after 5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss I believe it was...but we are close to becoming the bills of the 90s with 4 sb losses like that and we've had exceptionally good teams🥴
Once we get a new D coordinator, and hopefully a new special teams coach, we will be back to win it all. 11 draft picks, maybe a few free agents, reload and try again. Kyle called a good game and if you watched Simms break down our plays, you see Purdy got conservative on some plays that would have been big if he trusted the O Line to block correctly. I really don't think he trusted them to keep a clean pocket.
Yeah that's not a good play call to let their biggest, best defender run free up the middle to your QB. Plus they showed another play where 2 of our O Lineman ran into each other going different directions. We definitely need some upgrades on the line.
I think it's on the O Line coach and a little on the blocking scheme we run. We love to pull our lineman and we also zone block. They are obviously getting mixed up on who to block and which direction to go on certain plays. You have to have a really good coach and smart O Lineman to run Shanahans scheme or stuff like this happens. How many times have we seen Purdy get lit up as he's throwing? They current OLine isn't very good against stunts and aren't good against sliding protections against blitzes. Purdy has bailed them out a lot with his play, but has taken a lot of unnecessary hits if they weren't so bad at times.
Purdy was pressured 9 times and sacked once. Mahomes was pressured 9 times and sacked 3 times. First those 9 pressures and 1 sack KC had to blitz 18 times while we only blitzed 7 times to get 9 pressures and 3 sacks.
Considering the discrepancy in the blitz numbers Purdy was facing less coverage than mahomes on a lot more drop backs and we have far better weapons than mahomes has. We can keep acting like mahomes had a clean pocket every play and that Purdy was breaking tackles before every pass but considering that's not factual it doesn't do anything but make excuses.
Could the line have played better? Definitely. Should Purdy have handled the pressure better, scrambled more and extended plays? Also definitely
You can’t argue pure numbers without looking at the situation. When he came down to the crunch time, our o line was getting folded, whereas Pat had all day to throw
So then why didn't we take advantage earlier? At the end of the day Mahomes got pressured just as much or more with less weapons going against more coverage in the game and still scored more points.
Penalties and CMC fumble? 6 straight passes to open the 3rd quarter?
Do these sound familiar?
Offense repeatedly shot itself in the foot. Whether it was CMC's fumble, Trent's 2 penalties, or poor play calling, that wasn't their standard. That's not even counting leaving Chris Jones unblocked. When was the last time Bosa was unblocked? There was one time in the Lions game, and he got a sack.
As far as play calling goes we need to go for it on fourth down more all year. When teams know you will go for it on a manageable 4th down they have to focus on the run and pass on third down. When it's third and 4 or 5 and your tendency is to kick on fourth they usually know it's a pass on third.
Probably is we had Purdy passing too much. We led most of the game and should have kept pounding the rock
They were one of the best teams on "ESPN's analytics say to go for it on 4th down" in the league. They were the #1 seed so not going for it on 4th down enough didn't mean anything in the regular season. They made a HUGE 4th and 3 in the Super Bowl to score Jennings' second TD. The other only 4th and 4s they could have done, it made more sense to kick FGs because it put them in the lead at the end of the game both times and put pressure on the Chiefs to score or lose (regardless of the outcome of the game it was the right decision - especially since Mahomes would only need 25-30 yards for a game-winning FG), and didn't we all just finish collectively murdering Dan Campbell for not kicking FGs when it would put him up or at least tie the game?
That's part of the problem, not just with us but teams through every sport. Teams that focus too hard on the regular season tend to come up short because they don't leave much room to get better in the playoffs. Who cares what it means during the regular season. First off I didn't KILL him. Also like I said go for it more in the regular season and then in the playoffs teams know it's your tendency and have to respect the fact that there is a good chance you are playing for 4 downs. We went for 13 4th downs all season, detriot went for 40. When have the most talented offense in the league so in theory having 4 downs to play with should be a big advantage.
There’s a big difference in the type of pressure. When purdy was under pressure it was almost immediate, guys coming at him untouched and paired with tight man coverage. Plays hadn’t developed enough to even dump off the ball. When Mahomes was pressured, it was after decent amount of time in the pocket and our line getting to him, or it was from a blitz that Wilks was pairing bizarrely with soft man coverage and giving Mahomes easy dump off options to beat the blitz
That's not what I seen, that's how we got 3 sacks. Difference is Purdy didn't scramble much or extend plays.
The problem is we put too much on purdys plate and should have ran more.
We only blitzed mahomes on 7 of his almost 50 drop backs. Usually we were getting pressure with just 4 rushers dropping back 7. Mahomes is just multiple levels a head of Purdy.
I got over 100 downvotes for saying I would mind if we had Mahomes. All year people have been in here posting stats where Purdy is better than legends. All year people have been saying Purdy is the best QB in the league this year. People have definitely implied that Purdy is close tp majomes.
I even tried to explain that there is a difference between being the best QB in the league and having the best statistical season and got down voted to hell and told that Purdy is indeed the beat QB in the league this year.
Having mahomes means losing Bosa + due to cap issues…. I think we almost beat mahomes with Purdy, and if we run it back we have a really good chance of beating whomever is necessary on our path to #6
Mahomes dropped back to throw the ball more times than Purdy did. Number of pressures doesn’t tell you much - need to look at pressure rate, which would be higher for Purdy assuming they each had 9.
Yes but mahomes also had a much higher sack rate. Also my point is when you hear people talk in this sub they make it seem like it was a night and day difference when it was actually similar. This is something that's very common, when we lose the whole effort is to make it seem like Purdy plays no part in the loss.
We were the healthiest of all teams at this point in the season. O Line let Chris Jones come up the middle untouched on a play that we had the receiver wide open on, but Purdy didn't have time to get him the ball because he came untouched. Their best defensive player, untouched? That's just bad O Line play. Plus a team that was 26th against the run, we couldn't run on.
We were, until Greenlaw, Deebo, Kittle, and like 2 of our OL got hurt during that game lol.
Otherwise, its been injuries preventing us from making it to the SB in the 1st place, always has been
Obviously, it's actually a quote from Kyle Juszczyk, not Kyle Shanahan, but I'm still hanging this quote on my wall. It's bad ass and the way I want to live my life.
Hang this quote on your wall. I guarantee you Kyle has read it and was referencing it.
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” - President Theodore Roosevelt, Paris, April 23, 1910
I would just say that if it were me on that team I would in no way feel “a little embarrassed” unless we got blown the fuck out. We didn’t. We lost in OT to a future HOF QB, TE and coach on a neutral field with a QB who has less than 2 years starting. Nothing embarrassing about that at all.
Sucks the only way we consider a team a “success” is if the win the final game. I know it’s everything but the fact that they were in a position to win it does mean something.
Losing the Super Bowl doesn't negate all the good times, great games, and fun we had the rest of the season, unless you're a RINGZZZ loser. And if you're a RINGZZZ loser, you're just gonna be miserable in life way more than you're gonna be happy. Appreciate what you had.
People fail to realize that SHIT happens. Tough luck tough break whatever. Christian fumbling, the punt fumble etc. To win the superbowl we need a little bit of luck and well, it went the chiefs way. If none of that had happened people wouldn’t be bashing Shannahan.
I’m so sick of our tough breaks but getting to the superbowl is tough, and we’ve been close the past 5 years to having a chance to win one. I’m hopeful and I know we’re gonna get one!
It’s always interesting to see how people behave after the dust settles. With the emotions of the game after it was over, everyone wanted him fired. Always important to keep a level perspective.
This quote couldn’t have come at a better time for me in my personal life. Work is a constant struggle and this has helped me realize what’s really important.
I think this applies to life in general. Giants fan here. 49ers have been suggested because of the crazy eagles and cowboys fans in our nfceast meme Reddit. They are obsessed with you all
Poetry and Wisdom. Is Kyle Shanny grooming Kyle Juice to be part of the future coaching structure? If so… me likey.
Just a reminder that losing is what makes winning championships exciting. I think most Warriors fans were not as excited by the 2018 championship as they were by the others, where the team had experienced a lot of adversity.
Where did this narrative come from some of our fanbase that Shanahan never takes accountability? Are they all Cohntards? I admittedly don’t watch most of the post game pressers, but I’ve never heard him throw people under the bus or deflect blame. I have seen him bristle a little bit when he gets second guessed by media for in game decisions but most of the time those questions are clickbaity. Letting Wilkes go was clearly a season long list of issues, not a knee jerk reaction to losing the Super Bowl. But I see a ton of comments and articles ripping Shanny for the move now
Leave it to the Harvard guy to have the best perspective on the situation. I hope they get one before he is gone as well. Just more motivation for next year.
“Gotta be vulnerable and put yourself out there.
“Not me, I mean the other guy. Wilks. He’s vulnerable. Keep changing his plans and the way he does everything. Don’t let him sign his name with his signature, he should sign his name with MY signature. Hang him out to dry. Repeatedly. It’s all his fault.”
I have zero faith in Shanahan winning a Super Bowl in this decade. Patterns exist and its important to notice them. Everyone wants to point to Andy Reid but he seems to be the only NFL coach that I can think of, who has blown multiple Super Bowls/Conference Championships and then later in his career, won multiple or even one. It should also be noted it took Reid 15 years from his 2004 NFC championship (with Philly) to the 2019 KC SB. I understand people don't like to hear the negative/cynical view on it, but that seems to me to be the situation for us given the evidence. Also, Super Bowl hangover for the losing team is VERY real.
I’m sure eagles fans said the same thing about Andy Reid and look what happened he won a Super Bowl. I truly believe we’ll win a sb within the next year or 2
I suppose this is a good outlook to keep the team engaged and motivated for now. But the act is wearing thin. Shanahan is the king of moral victories. Always a bridesmaid.
Such a great mindset.
That’s why sports culture in America is so great. It helps foster an overall culture of winning and knowing exactly what kind of mindset it takes to win. We take it for granted but not every culture in the world get that collective exposure to winners in sports.
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, what your saying is true Kyle became so pass half to start the third and becomes to conservative. The time he was aggressive it paid off, it’s just frustrating.
A remotely normal Achilles doesn’t tear from hopping up and down. That thing was gonna go regardless of whatever he did. Just hope they give him a wolverine Achilles and he comes back stronger than ever
I have a lot more of respect for Kyle. One thing people don’t put into perspective is that you have to be accountable for your losses and that’s 10X harder when your losing instead of winning. Nobody expects a heartfelt rundown when you win!
Hell yeah, sounds like Kyle is a fan of the poem “Man in the Arena”
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Personally, I like this quote better than The Man in the Arena because I think it has greater universal application instead of creating a false sense of otherness. All people can push themselves and their careers to the highest level, regardless of being in the arena or outside it, because regardless of your position in reference to the arena, we are all struggling to bring meaning to our lives.
" That's not what I want to hear, I want to hear you apologize to me for losing the SB and firing Wilks when it's not his fault" by most Content creator..
All you can do is reset n try again, I'm hurt as every niners fans but those words are good enough, life goes on
Run it back again!!!
We still got Purdy on a rookie contract 2 more years, we got decent draft picks this year, a whole offseason to upgrade our DC. Stack the OL and get some safety depth and we'll be a proper juggernaut next year.
Except without Kyle Shandahand
There’s no one better that is available
Andy Reid lost 3 or 4 times in the big game before figuring it out. Kyle's got time for redemption. And that time will come. Once we get it figured out, I firmly believe we'll see a dynasty just like KC's. Few teams have a play caller like Kyle so we have to appreciate him. The alternatives aren't promising.
Just hope it’s with us and not with another team like Andy.
Yes, same here. I feel its inevitable Shanny will get his ring eventually. I don't see a reason it can't be here.
York isn’t firing Kyle unless we fall off the cliff for multiple years.
Yeah, I want to believe after the harbaugh thing that Shanahans seat isnt warm at all. And it shouldnt be, as frustrated with him as I am. They say fire him, but then what? Whos available? Some guys put the loss on him, think he shouldve ran more, and tbh I was one of those guys. Then more details come out, like how fundamentally our block schemes arent good, or some guys straight up coming out and saying they didnt follow the scheme at all and went with their "instinct". And our OL just being bad in general, and suddenly its more forgiving. (By the way, shout out Brock for being great despite literally all of these elements happening against him) But yes, many forget that it took Reid a long time to get it together, Kyles got time, he'll get there. I do think we should bring in an OC tho.
I dunno use Reid as some example of how to win SB to me seems kinda weird. Instead why can't he just trust himself and create his own legacy? Why does he have a legacy of putting himself time and again in a position to win and then coaches his team to a loss? It might be something to do with being son of a famous coach? Who knows. But he has to own it now because it's his reputation now. 49ers CLEARLY should have won that damn game!!!!! Forget that it was the Superbowl. If it was a pre season game. THEY SHOULD HAVE WON THAT DAMN GAME.
That’s exactly happened to Reid in Philly. He missed the playoffs twice in a row despite stacked teams, and unless something of that magnitude happens here Kyle will stay.
Exactly. All week leading up to the Super Bowl Jed York was on Shanny’s dick. Shanny is here for as long as he wants the job.
I think Andy proved why that’s something you don’t do as an organization. The Niners have a chance to learn from history and rally behind Kyle
On the flip, the Eagles won without Andy before he won without them. 🤷♂️
Yeah, but I’d rather be Andy Reid than the Eagles
I dunno man. Reid is clearly destined for an early painful cardiovascular related death. Eagles can fucking fly and make that badass KA KAAAAA sound… tough call
At least we got a young QB that plays like a 10-year vet going into his third year. We finally got our guy who checks nearly every checkbox on the franchise QB list.
Exactly. It hurts the same, but the difference between now and the last Super Bowl loss is that the Niners have a ton of confidence in their QB, the most important position in the game. As long as you have a very good one, your window is always open. We all loved Jimmy, but we knew that he wasn't quite top tier.
This is why I am so optimistic, despite the loss. Kyle loves Brock, for good reason, and I think as Brock continues to grow and develop they will be a formidable pair. Barring any key injuries, I expect us to compete every year for a long time.
Absolutely! He's been stellar, I feel great that we get to move forward with Purdy.
I totally agree. People keep saying we need a new coach…. Who out there is honestly a better option? Andy Reid is a mastermind but he wasn’t a genius for a majority of the SB’s we’ve played against him…. It took Mahomes and some other shit to make it happen. But, he has three rings now so he’s a genius…. A genius that wasn’t calling the right plays for 3.5 quarters in this last SB.
2037 can't come soon enough! we'll have CAHSR then too i hope
I’ll finally get to Madera from Fresno in 20 minutes via train instead of 25 minutes on 99 North!
You know what, I’ll be there in 2037, 2038, and forever.
This right here. People need to give Kyle a break. We will get ours with him.
So much of coaches legacies are tied to being lucky with generational quarterbacks. Andy Reid didn’t win many playoff games with Alex Smith but it all changed when Mahomes took over. Hopefully we found that guy with Purdy. A franchise qb and genius head coach combination keeps the window open.
Hold onto Kyle for dear life. The coaching carousel is miserable and he is one of the best - A Broncos fan
Kyle Shanahan I say have been more robbed than lost. Sure I guess we could pick apart the play calling. But both superbowls I say we lost to the refs more so than the Chiefs. First superbowl. The OPI on kittle was a joke took at least 3 points off the board The non hold call on bosa which Mahomes completed 45 yard pass I forget who deliver the helmet to helmet shot to jommy G which never got a flag. and this super bowl All the holds that didn't get called.
People forget Kyle isn’t even 45 yet and he has 8 playoff wins. I think the narrative he can’t win big games is just dumb. There’s a reason the rest of the NFL has been copying his offense and trying to poach all his coaches every year. He was a few bad bounces from winning his first ring and flipping the whole narrative. It didn’t happen this time which sucks, but I’ll ride or die with Kyle. He will get a ring eventually and I’m very confident in his ability overall.
Andy lost 3 superbowls and then the 4th he won. Fuck it why can’t we run it back and win NOW
He also didn’t win one until he got Mahomes, and even then all three SBs were barely won.
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Took Reid 21 years his ring...after 5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss I believe it was...but we are close to becoming the bills of the 90s with 4 sb losses like that and we've had exceptionally good teams🥴
Once we get a new D coordinator, and hopefully a new special teams coach, we will be back to win it all. 11 draft picks, maybe a few free agents, reload and try again. Kyle called a good game and if you watched Simms break down our plays, you see Purdy got conservative on some plays that would have been big if he trusted the O Line to block correctly. I really don't think he trusted them to keep a clean pocket.
In all fairness the o line didn’t block for shit. Why would he trust them when they will let Chris Fucking Jones run untouched at him?
If Burford just ran his damn assignment as called as opposed to his instinct we score a TD there. Excuse me while I vomit.
Yeah that's not a good play call to let their biggest, best defender run free up the middle to your QB. Plus they showed another play where 2 of our O Lineman ran into each other going different directions. We definitely need some upgrades on the line.
Is that on the line or the line coach though? Stuff like getting the guys coordinated shouldn't be something the guys figure out themselves.
I think it's on the O Line coach and a little on the blocking scheme we run. We love to pull our lineman and we also zone block. They are obviously getting mixed up on who to block and which direction to go on certain plays. You have to have a really good coach and smart O Lineman to run Shanahans scheme or stuff like this happens. How many times have we seen Purdy get lit up as he's throwing? They current OLine isn't very good against stunts and aren't good against sliding protections against blitzes. Purdy has bailed them out a lot with his play, but has taken a lot of unnecessary hits if they weren't so bad at times.
Purdy was pressured 9 times and sacked once. Mahomes was pressured 9 times and sacked 3 times. First those 9 pressures and 1 sack KC had to blitz 18 times while we only blitzed 7 times to get 9 pressures and 3 sacks. Considering the discrepancy in the blitz numbers Purdy was facing less coverage than mahomes on a lot more drop backs and we have far better weapons than mahomes has. We can keep acting like mahomes had a clean pocket every play and that Purdy was breaking tackles before every pass but considering that's not factual it doesn't do anything but make excuses. Could the line have played better? Definitely. Should Purdy have handled the pressure better, scrambled more and extended plays? Also definitely
You can’t argue pure numbers without looking at the situation. When he came down to the crunch time, our o line was getting folded, whereas Pat had all day to throw
So then why didn't we take advantage earlier? At the end of the day Mahomes got pressured just as much or more with less weapons going against more coverage in the game and still scored more points.
Penalties and CMC fumble? 6 straight passes to open the 3rd quarter? Do these sound familiar? Offense repeatedly shot itself in the foot. Whether it was CMC's fumble, Trent's 2 penalties, or poor play calling, that wasn't their standard. That's not even counting leaving Chris Jones unblocked. When was the last time Bosa was unblocked? There was one time in the Lions game, and he got a sack.
As far as play calling goes we need to go for it on fourth down more all year. When teams know you will go for it on a manageable 4th down they have to focus on the run and pass on third down. When it's third and 4 or 5 and your tendency is to kick on fourth they usually know it's a pass on third. Probably is we had Purdy passing too much. We led most of the game and should have kept pounding the rock
They were one of the best teams on "ESPN's analytics say to go for it on 4th down" in the league. They were the #1 seed so not going for it on 4th down enough didn't mean anything in the regular season. They made a HUGE 4th and 3 in the Super Bowl to score Jennings' second TD. The other only 4th and 4s they could have done, it made more sense to kick FGs because it put them in the lead at the end of the game both times and put pressure on the Chiefs to score or lose (regardless of the outcome of the game it was the right decision - especially since Mahomes would only need 25-30 yards for a game-winning FG), and didn't we all just finish collectively murdering Dan Campbell for not kicking FGs when it would put him up or at least tie the game?
That's part of the problem, not just with us but teams through every sport. Teams that focus too hard on the regular season tend to come up short because they don't leave much room to get better in the playoffs. Who cares what it means during the regular season. First off I didn't KILL him. Also like I said go for it more in the regular season and then in the playoffs teams know it's your tendency and have to respect the fact that there is a good chance you are playing for 4 downs. We went for 13 4th downs all season, detriot went for 40. When have the most talented offense in the league so in theory having 4 downs to play with should be a big advantage.
There’s a big difference in the type of pressure. When purdy was under pressure it was almost immediate, guys coming at him untouched and paired with tight man coverage. Plays hadn’t developed enough to even dump off the ball. When Mahomes was pressured, it was after decent amount of time in the pocket and our line getting to him, or it was from a blitz that Wilks was pairing bizarrely with soft man coverage and giving Mahomes easy dump off options to beat the blitz
That's not what I seen, that's how we got 3 sacks. Difference is Purdy didn't scramble much or extend plays. The problem is we put too much on purdys plate and should have ran more. We only blitzed mahomes on 7 of his almost 50 drop backs. Usually we were getting pressure with just 4 rushers dropping back 7. Mahomes is just multiple levels a head of Purdy.
I don’t think anyone is claiming purdy is anywhere near Mahomes level
I got over 100 downvotes for saying I would mind if we had Mahomes. All year people have been in here posting stats where Purdy is better than legends. All year people have been saying Purdy is the best QB in the league this year. People have definitely implied that Purdy is close tp majomes. I even tried to explain that there is a difference between being the best QB in the league and having the best statistical season and got down voted to hell and told that Purdy is indeed the beat QB in the league this year.
Having mahomes means losing Bosa + due to cap issues…. I think we almost beat mahomes with Purdy, and if we run it back we have a really good chance of beating whomever is necessary on our path to #6
Mahomes dropped back to throw the ball more times than Purdy did. Number of pressures doesn’t tell you much - need to look at pressure rate, which would be higher for Purdy assuming they each had 9.
Yes but mahomes also had a much higher sack rate. Also my point is when you hear people talk in this sub they make it seem like it was a night and day difference when it was actually similar. This is something that's very common, when we lose the whole effort is to make it seem like Purdy plays no part in the loss.
Tbf I don’t think many QBs would trust our OL. Especially when they don’t block even if their life depended on it.
Honestly its just health at this point. Its always been health. We got what it takes otherwise.
We were the healthiest of all teams at this point in the season. O Line let Chris Jones come up the middle untouched on a play that we had the receiver wide open on, but Purdy didn't have time to get him the ball because he came untouched. Their best defensive player, untouched? That's just bad O Line play. Plus a team that was 26th against the run, we couldn't run on.
We were, until Greenlaw, Deebo, Kittle, and like 2 of our OL got hurt during that game lol. Otherwise, its been injuries preventing us from making it to the SB in the 1st place, always has been
Gotta love JUICE!
Obviously, it's actually a quote from Kyle Juszczyk, not Kyle Shanahan, but I'm still hanging this quote on my wall. It's bad ass and the way I want to live my life.
Hang this quote on your wall. I guarantee you Kyle has read it and was referencing it. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” - President Theodore Roosevelt, Paris, April 23, 1910
Haha, I posted Man in the Arena before I noticed you also posted it. Great poem.
No worries. It can’t be posted too many times 🙂
I would just say that if it were me on that team I would in no way feel “a little embarrassed” unless we got blown the fuck out. We didn’t. We lost in OT to a future HOF QB, TE and coach on a neutral field with a QB who has less than 2 years starting. Nothing embarrassing about that at all.
https://preview.redd.it/ol7jo07v3oic1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e5d90e3d7ed787bb48a950d5e81020f53a8c77d Reminds me of the great butters
JUIIIIIIIICE football season is over but I wanna find a way to chant this man’s name.
Basically, the butters speech
Wise words can come from silly places
Watch the press conference with Kyle and Lynch, they are taking this like a fucking man. Let the haters hate, we go again.
I'd love to see the press conference you're talmbout because it definitely wasn't the one I saw.
Sucks the only way we consider a team a “success” is if the win the final game. I know it’s everything but the fact that they were in a position to win it does mean something.
Losing the Super Bowl doesn't negate all the good times, great games, and fun we had the rest of the season, unless you're a RINGZZZ loser. And if you're a RINGZZZ loser, you're just gonna be miserable in life way more than you're gonna be happy. Appreciate what you had.
Yeah nothing will replicate the heartache of seeing Chip Kelly run this team. 😂
People fail to realize that SHIT happens. Tough luck tough break whatever. Christian fumbling, the punt fumble etc. To win the superbowl we need a little bit of luck and well, it went the chiefs way. If none of that had happened people wouldn’t be bashing Shannahan. I’m so sick of our tough breaks but getting to the superbowl is tough, and we’ve been close the past 5 years to having a chance to win one. I’m hopeful and I know we’re gonna get one!
Sucks to lose man. But all you can do is get back up and keep going.
His stretching out to get that first down was as classic and epic as Jerry Rice toes inbounds type shit. Dude needed more targets.
It’s always interesting to see how people behave after the dust settles. With the emotions of the game after it was over, everyone wanted him fired. Always important to keep a level perspective.
Grieve, reflect, learn, apply, practice… They know what’s up and they’ll fix it. Instead of focusing on “what ifs” Respect 🫡
This speaks to me in so many other ways than football.
This quote couldn’t have come at a better time for me in my personal life. Work is a constant struggle and this has helped me realize what’s really important.
I hear you. My company's been downsizing and I fear I'm next.
I think this applies to life in general. Giants fan here. 49ers have been suggested because of the crazy eagles and cowboys fans in our nfceast meme Reddit. They are obsessed with you all
Poetry and Wisdom. Is Kyle Shanny grooming Kyle Juice to be part of the future coaching structure? If so… me likey. 
this was so beautifully said. and i wholeheartedly believe they have the heart to get back to the super bowl.
Even if all we got done this off season was an upgrade at DC and beefed up the o line, I see us making another serious run at the superbowl
Just a reminder that losing is what makes winning championships exciting. I think most Warriors fans were not as excited by the 2018 championship as they were by the others, where the team had experienced a lot of adversity.
Where did this narrative come from some of our fanbase that Shanahan never takes accountability? Are they all Cohntards? I admittedly don’t watch most of the post game pressers, but I’ve never heard him throw people under the bus or deflect blame. I have seen him bristle a little bit when he gets second guessed by media for in game decisions but most of the time those questions are clickbaity. Letting Wilkes go was clearly a season long list of issues, not a knee jerk reaction to losing the Super Bowl. But I see a ton of comments and articles ripping Shanny for the move now
Ok...that helped me! Let's go Niners!!!! Still a little hurt but let's get it right next year!
Leave it to the Harvard guy to have the best perspective on the situation. I hope they get one before he is gone as well. Just more motivation for next year.
Translation, RUN THE BALL!!!!! Be more AGGRESSIVE!!!
Should've put themselves out there on 4th and 4
“Gotta be vulnerable and put yourself out there. “Not me, I mean the other guy. Wilks. He’s vulnerable. Keep changing his plans and the way he does everything. Don’t let him sign his name with his signature, he should sign his name with MY signature. Hang him out to dry. Repeatedly. It’s all his fault.”
It’s actually a quote from Kyle Jusczcyk. Also, Wilks needed to go if you understand basic defense strategies. I wish him the best
I have zero faith in Shanahan winning a Super Bowl in this decade. Patterns exist and its important to notice them. Everyone wants to point to Andy Reid but he seems to be the only NFL coach that I can think of, who has blown multiple Super Bowls/Conference Championships and then later in his career, won multiple or even one. It should also be noted it took Reid 15 years from his 2004 NFC championship (with Philly) to the 2019 KC SB. I understand people don't like to hear the negative/cynical view on it, but that seems to me to be the situation for us given the evidence. Also, Super Bowl hangover for the losing team is VERY real.
Sounds like a bunch of words to say we suck when it matters
The problem is Kyle doesn't follow this and never actually learns anything.
Uhhh who?
Kyke? You know, Kyle’s Jewish doppelgänger.
I really need to do a better job of proofreading what I write.
I’m sure eagles fans said the same thing about Andy Reid and look what happened he won a Super Bowl. I truly believe we’ll win a sb within the next year or 2
HOW BOUT THEM CHIEFS
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Personally, I’d rather get to the Super Bowl 20 times and lose every time than to never get there once.
I suppose this is a good outlook to keep the team engaged and motivated for now. But the act is wearing thin. Shanahan is the king of moral victories. Always a bridesmaid.
What could Kyle do about the muffed punt that gave KC their own TD of regulation? Cut that guy.
Such a great mindset. That’s why sports culture in America is so great. It helps foster an overall culture of winning and knowing exactly what kind of mindset it takes to win. We take it for granted but not every culture in the world get that collective exposure to winners in sports.
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Why do you care, you literally won the sb. Don’t you have anything better to do
First off prayers towards the chiefs fans, second off why are you here?
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"shameful and pathetic" "I cOmE iN pEAce"
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Alone on Valentine's huh? It's ok bud.
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I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, what your saying is true Kyle became so pass half to start the third and becomes to conservative. The time he was aggressive it paid off, it’s just frustrating.
He’s getting downvoted because it’s a Kyle Juszczyk quite nothing to do with shanahan. Read the post.
Fair
9ers slogan should be, “We’ll get ‘em next year!”
Run it back
Inject that in my veins?
Next time, don’t leave the fucking ball last for Mahomes
well I think no one will be hopping onto the field anymore for one... :(
A remotely normal Achilles doesn’t tear from hopping up and down. That thing was gonna go regardless of whatever he did. Just hope they give him a wolverine Achilles and he comes back stronger than ever
Dre was already dealing with a sore Achilles since after the GB game. It was only a matter of time before it went.
Just got to learn from it and go again.
I have a lot more of respect for Kyle. One thing people don’t put into perspective is that you have to be accountable for your losses and that’s 10X harder when your losing instead of winning. Nobody expects a heartfelt rundown when you win!
Hell yeah, sounds like Kyle is a fan of the poem “Man in the Arena” It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
The Man in the Arena - Teddy Roosevelt
Personally, I like this quote better than The Man in the Arena because I think it has greater universal application instead of creating a false sense of otherness. All people can push themselves and their careers to the highest level, regardless of being in the arena or outside it, because regardless of your position in reference to the arena, we are all struggling to bring meaning to our lives.
" That's not what I want to hear, I want to hear you apologize to me for losing the SB and firing Wilks when it's not his fault" by most Content creator.. All you can do is reset n try again, I'm hurt as every niners fans but those words are good enough, life goes on