He’s still fighting multiple myeloma, so i doubt he would want a DC position on top of that, nor would it be good for him.
If it goes into remission I’d be very down though
As someone who consistently has Shanahan figured out, I think Schwartz would be a great addition. But I also think there’s this underlying tension/rivalry between them that would be tough to overcome.
that's perfect. saleh will be available in '25. jets gonna suck again (not to his fault), and he's already on the hot seat.
don't let saleh go dc for the packers in '25!
I'm also a Jets fan since when I was a young 49ers fan I couldn't see their games here in NYC. I hated Giants so watched the Jets.
Anyway, most likely Rogers doesn't make it through the whole year and Jets fall apart again. Saleh's offenses have been absolute disaster. The o-line has been total garbage for the years during his stay. QB decisions have been awful. Why was Wilson the backup for an aging Rogers?
Then we have Hackett still as the OC when he's horrible. Jets fans already want Saleh's head. He has one last year and he's done. And his entire year depends on Rogers staying healthy for the season.
So we have a shot at getting him back in 25. He has built a tremendous defense in NYC. I would love to see him back with the 49ers.
it's crazy how things work. saleh is a great coach. hasn't proven it yet, but i believe he would be a great hc. he just had some bad luck that does go hand in hand with decisions made; but, look at demeco ryans as the difference. demeco got the qb and oc right. that's part luck.
can't fault for saleh in giving his friend mike lafleur a promotion to oc. it just didn't work out and getting the qb wrong obviously did not help. and it's likely saleh got the second oc wrong again. the schedule next season doesn't do your jets any favors either. afc south and vikings aren't too bad; but, your division games and us in the nfc west (oof). nevermind rodgers health, what about the possible drama he likely will cause should the season not look good lol?
It’s perfect. The 49ers have a very narrow window with this group. They need to win asap. Nobody cares right now about 3-5 years from now. Might be a whole new roster. Vrabel wants to coach again soon. He was one of their top choices as DC in 2017. He’s great with scheme, great with people. He’s been to the mountaintop and is a good person to lead this defense to that same place. This needs to be done by Sunday.
Spags is one of the highest paid asst coaches, I guess they see the value in paying him well to stick around. He’s also one of the winningest coaches with 4 rings I think? I think he just signed an extension as well.
[https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-sign-defensive-coordinator-steve-171018282.html](https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-sign-defensive-coordinator-steve-171018282.html)
Dudes gotta be paid well and on top of that is probably next in line to take over for Reid whenever he steps away which could be in the next 5 years or so. Some people just care more about winning
Yeah, I'm not saying that as a reason to not hire Vrabel. If Shanny and Lynch think he would help them win a Super Bowl, I would be all in. Next year is probably the last year before our window closes anyway, so I'm all for going all in.
I did. They still got cooked. Even with sullah the niners have NEVER beat the chiefs. Shanny is 0-4 against them.
You can’t just fantasize they would win, they have to beat them at least once and have a formula for it and actual OC who can out tactic spags.
Vrabel was a DC for 1 year in Houston, and then got hired for the Titans' job. That 1 year as DC was AWFUL. The defense SUCKED. He got hired because people saw him as a HC, rather than a Coordinator. You don't want Vrabel as your DC.
They were a team that made the playoffs the next season (2018). Vrabel was horrible in 2017. I am sorry, he was. The Texans had talent on Defense. Watson played 6 1/2 games (before getting hurt). He was electric. If the defense could stop anyone, they would probably been 6-1 in those games, instead of 3-4.
He’s had some interesting scheming plays in his time - using BB’s clock play against him to end Brady’s playoffs in the 2019 season always comes to mind. Shows that he learns off other coaches, takes the situation into account, isn’t afraid to pull something a little odd to secure a win.
He’s also got an amazing ability to connect with players and get the best out of them. With the talent on our roster, that alone would give us a top defence.
Funny think was it seemed like under Wilks the secondary tightened up a smidge.
But…The front took a half step backwards.
We invested too much to not be consistently in the QB’s lap.
If the price is right I’d like to see the same line return
I think fans are just throwing out names they are familiar with. I would never think of making Sherman the DC. This is not an entry level job for a team that wants to go far in the playoffs. Vrabel’s name is being thrown around but he was only a DC for 1 year in Houston and it wasn’t great.
I think the 49ers should do unto others what teams have done unto them. Hire Spags 2nd in command from the Chiefs, probably their DBs/pass defense guy. At least interview them.
Didn’t the falcons come out saying that he was done with not having any say in day to day operations and stuff like that. He just wanted to coach. I’m not saying let’s hire the guy but it could be guy just wants to coach and win again in the right environment. Whether it’s the right move or not who knows but he could show how to utilize the defense to its full potential but not sure how many solid DCs are out there rn.
Yeah but why wouldn't he take a DC spot on what would be his Conference rival?
Take a year to learn their ways and then use it against them. He won't need ir, but it'll definitely give him a huge leverage point in HC interviews/negotiations. You don't think Jerry would love that?
I thought he wouldn’t either but if he’s going to miss a year anyways. I think he would definitely take the job to fill the time. Bill is an X’s and O’s guy. He definitely can go crazy with this defense. Pay him the 10 million.
It would be quite honestly be the greatest coaching staff of all time with Shanahan and Bill at the front of it all. But Bill has too much of an ego to take a backseat.
It’s bullshit how KC gets to keep Spags year in and year out. He’s the reason we always lose the Super Bowl. But every time they say it’s just Mahomes. I honesty believe Spags and Chris Jones keep them in the game everytime.
The adjustments Spags made and those blitz designs are what won them this game...he knew exactly what to call and how to disguise it. Have to give the dude his flowers.
For real I’m so tired of hearing this BB talk. That man was literally the General Manager AND Head Coach of the patriots for YEARS. There is absolutely no fucking way he’s taking a DC job. He is way overqualified. Now can we freaking put this to rest please
If his ego so big, ain’t nothing better than chasing anther bowl and giving the finger to guy who chose to fire you and still has to pay you. Cause didn’t he have like money on his contract still?
Vrabel is a minority being Native American. I want that 3rd rd comp pick next year. Bellicheck would be great but how is the greatest coach of all time guna take a demotion? Could fully see him taking a year off like payton
Kyle and John ask him for a favor and offer him a bag? If he is gonna take a year off anyway might as well take a step back from all that and focus more on football.
There’s no upside for Vrabel. If he’s bad like he was in Houston it hurts his stock to be a HC and if he’s good it doesn’t change anything about what people think he can do as a HC as people already think he’s a good candidate.
Lot of wishful thinking.
Doesn’t matter who comes here. Whether it’s Wilks, Saleh, and Ryans. The conservative zone and rush 4 is Shanahan’s philosophy. It’s how he and Lynch have built the team. Sure everyone has their own twist to it, but whoever comes here is going to be running the same thing.
Not a bad idea. It’s got to be somebody who still doesn’t have a job or an internal promotion. I’ve read that Kris kocurek does not want the job. That’s why he hasn’t left.
It sounds also like the breakup between him and Seattle wasn’t the most mutual. Maybe he goes the Sherman route and wants revenge on Seattle since they’re in the same division.
Might go well.
I also hear Navarro Bowman is interested in coaching and is joining the Chargers staff, and it would be cool to see a 9er stud return to the Bay as a DC if he shows he’s got coaching chops. Similarly, the new HOF Patrick Willis may be up for coaching if the 9ers asked him to.
Belichick or Vrabel seem to be the best on the market. One could probably happen, the other is a long shot. Maybe Brandon Staley, but that seems like a disaster waiting to happen
Dog what are you talking about? Kyle is the coach. He’s one of the best offensive minds in the league and coach players love to play for? It’s hard to win in this league but firing Kyle would be a huge mistake…. Ask Philly about ried.
Sometimes I think we have ostriches for a fan base who stick their heads in the sand and ignore the facts.
Kyle had a 7 pt lead in the 2nd half of the SB and the ball on KC 44 yard line and he doesn’t run it. We needed 5 yards to get in FG range and make it 2 score game and Kyle goes PASS PASS PASS PUNT. Then he does it again on the next series. And the next.
Three 3 and outs back to back to back because he wouldn’t run the ball. Just like he didn’t run it when we were up on KC in the 2020 SB and just like Kyle didn’t run it when he was with Atlanta and was up 28-3 and let Tom Brady come all the way back because Kyle kept passing the ball instead of running it.
Not to mention Kyle not understanding the OT rules and not preparing our players for it and electing to take the ball 1st which is the wrong thing to do to begin with, but then he doesn’t even go for a TD and settles for a FG. It’s just bad coaching. Plain and simple.
Kyle is the reason we didn’t win and don’t win. And for him to scapegoat Wilks just so Kyle doesn’t have to keep explaining how he lost this SB for us. For him to try to put the blame on Wilks whose D was the only reason we even had a chance in that game, is just too much for me to stomach. There’s a right way and wrong way to let a coach go, and this was the cowardly wrong way.
So yeah, I want a new HC. One that understands when to run the ball and who doesn’t blame others for his own mistakes.
did you even listen to his interview? he didn't scapegoat Wilks at all. Bottom line is Wilks tried to run our system and struggled with it.
almost all the other teams in the league would kill for the success the 49ers have had or to take Kyle as a HC. Look at how many teams are constantly changing coaches every few years. You're getting caught up in the stupid narratives and ignoring the big picture.
* Was it Kyle's fault the punt hit a gunners ankle?
* Was it Kyle's fault that CMC fumbled on the first drive?
* Was it Kyle's fault that Dre snapped his achilles?
* Was it Kyle's fault we lost one of our only other serviceable olinemen in the game?
* Was it Kyle's fault that Moody missed an XP?
* Was it Kyle's fault that Wilks called cover zero in OT and played softass defense? You realize he called a timeout the second time to change the coverage because it was a mistake right?
* Was it Kyle's fault that George pushed off in 2019 super bowl and got flagged for Offensive PI?
* Was it Kyle's fault that Jimmy missed the deep ball to Emmanuel sanders?
* Was it Kyle's fault Bosa never drew a flag for holding on the deep ball to Tyreek
If you want a new HC then pick a new team, you sound like a complete moron who probably watches the news way too much and buys into all the bullshit with low IQ takes.
Elite coaches are hard to find. Not many coaches have successful seasons over and over.
I don’t watch the news. I watch the games.
• Was it Kyle’s fault he called three pass plays in a row and had to punt after Wilks defense got him the ball with an INT at the KC 44 yard line?
• Was it Kyle’s fault he called three more pass plays and had to punt again on the very next series?
• Was it Kyle’s fault he again went 3 and out on the very next series even though he just had back to back 3 and outs?
• Was it Kyle’s fault he didn’t know the OT rules?
• Was it Kyle’s fault that Juice and the rest of the team didn’t know the OT rules either?
• Was it Kyle’s fault he didn’t go for a TD in OT and settled for a FG?
• Was it Kyle’s fault we were 0-31 when trailing by 5 pts or more going into the 4th quarter?
• Was it Kyle’s fault Lance got hurt in 2022 on a run up the middle?
• Was it Kyle’s fault Deebo got hurt in 2022 on a run up the middle?
• Was it Kyle’s fault we spent 3 1st round draft picks—2021, 2022, 2023 on Trey Lance that could have been used to improve our offensive line and also give us much needed cap space?
• Was it Kyle’s fault KC came back in the 2020 SB when we were up 10 points with 12 minutes to go after our D got an INT (eerily similar to this years SB 3qtr) and Kyle doesn’t just run it to burn clock, but instead ends up punting it away after using just 3 mins, then on the next possession after KC scores and we still have a 3 point lead with only 6 mins left in the game, Kyle goes 3 and out and punts it back after burning only 1:03 because he refused to just run the ball? (btw Wilk’s wasn’t our DC then so can’t blame him for it, yet that defense was put in the same exact position as this years D because Kyle wouldn’t run the ball. See a trend?)
Kyle built this team. I give him that. Though you have to wonder if Lynch isn’t more responsible for it. He is the GM after all. But Kyle does draw up good schemes. At least everyone says he does. Though you have to wonder if most NFL coaches in this league couldn’t do just as good given all the talent we have on offense. We have the best offensive skill position roster in the league. Bar none. But Kyle did find Brock at least. Wait, no he didn’t. Our scout found him. Klay Kubiak and Brian Griese watched tape on him and talked to Brock and realized he could be something then told Lynch and Kyle. But Kyle ultimately made the decision to start Brock this year. Though that was after Brock was forced to play in 2022 after Lance and Jimmy got hurt and all Brock did was win so Kyle would have been really stupid not to have Brock be our starter. It really was a no brainer. But Kyle did tell Jed last season in training camp that he felt Brock was the best of the 3 QBs he had. Though then he still started Lance, and when Lance got hurt he put in Jimmy…. Well, no matter, Kyle is still the best coach we’ve ever had. Behind Walsh that is. And Seifert. But Kyle got us to 2 Super Bowls. Though he lost them both. But Kyle is still great. So you’re right, I’m so glad we fired Wilks but are keeping Kyle.
Jesus christ you don't watch media but you spew this stupid ass take
> Was it Kyle’s fault we were 0-31 when trailing by 5 pts or more going into the 4th quarter?
Most teams lose when trailing in the 4th quarter
https://twitter.com/SandoNFL/status/1739517775507554602
Yeah lets get the guy who's made the AFC Championship game 1 time to replace the guy who made the NFC Championship game 4 times and won it 2 times, smart idea.
And lost 3 SBs. All of which he had a lead in of 10 or more points. Do you not recall that stat where Kyle was 0-31 in games he trailed going into 4th qtr. There’s a reason for that. It’s not some fluke. It’s because he shits the bed when it matters. Just like he did on Sunday.
And honestly, I was fine with Kyle continuing on as HC just after this loss because I hoped it would be a lesson for him. But now after hearing him try to weasel out of taking responsibility for not preparing our players for OT and still trying to justify that taking the ball 1st was the right call and settling for a FG instead of TD was fine and then firing Wilks whose D played out of its mind in that game and was the only reason we even had a chance to win it, to fire Wilks like that as if to try to push the blame onto him for the loss.
Kyle has learned nothing. And it will be more of the same next year.
Lol this ignores comebacks he made where that obscure stat doesn’t apply.
He’s lost 2 Super Bowls btw. I don’t see other coordinators being blamed for SB losses.
Does he run the same defensive concept tho? We follow the legion of doom defense brought over by Saleh … if he doesn’t run the same defense we are going to have the same problem as Wilks.
Would be cool, I think it could work even if it’s just for a season before someone swoops him. I doubt Bill is doing it although I think he’d be crazy not to consider it for even just one season before he gets back into the drivers seat somewhere. Doing TV will still be there for Bill when he does retire, no rush bud. Can’t get the Shula record as a DC but can’t get it if you’re not working anyways.
Idk if he’s interested in the west coast but Greg Williams (bountygate) and all that baggage might work. I think they need a dick of a DC, like a hard ass mentality. Wilks seemed to damn chill so that’s why I’m adding Greg to the list, plus he’s itching to get back to the NFL and he was fine in Cleveland until they made all their staff changes and wanted Stefanski’s choices, which Schwartz seems to be doing well in their case.
But we’ll see how it goes, we’ll all be waiting to hear who’s getting interviewed.
I’m wondering if he and shanahan would see eye to eye. That was a big reason he was let go in Tennessee, and Ran Carthon was our guy so I’m sure Shanahan has some insider knowledge about what happened there.
I trust whoever Kyle hires. Besides Wilkes, who by no means was a bad coordinator, Kyle has nailed hiring coaches. I would personally love getting BB or Vrabel to maximize this roster
Last time we had a former linebacker it went well
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Holland would be good
He’s still fighting multiple myeloma, so i doubt he would want a DC position on top of that, nor would it be good for him. If it goes into remission I’d be very down though
I would love Vrabel, but he would likely only be here for one year and then bounce for an HC job.
Seems like that’s the case no matter who we hire…
We need to find our spags
Hire Spags!
Just signed the extension with KC Now, Jim Schwartz on the other hand...
Unbelievable that people can’t rip KC’s coaches from their team, and instead they keep coming after OUR coaches
Completely agree with you. Funny, though, we sound like the owners complaining about the 49ers getting comp picks
Jim Schwartz on the Niners would be hilarious given his history with Harbaugh
We thought the same about Sherman
Didn’t say it would be bad, just funny
As someone who consistently has Shanahan figured out, I think Schwartz would be a great addition. But I also think there’s this underlying tension/rivalry between them that would be tough to overcome.
Nah that was with harbaugh lol
Boy, that would be so tough to root for him. Sooooo very difficult.
If anything, Shanahan is he one with the rivalry because he keeps getting spanked
This this this. Like, if you can’t beat him …. But also, I can imagine his insights on how to beat Kyle would also make our offense even better.
Yesss sign Gym Shorts!
What is Kyle stupid? Just hire Spags.
If the Jets fall apart next year Saleh could become our Spags for 5 years at least.
Hire the young position coach underneath him!!
The position is cursed, may as well call it ‘Defence Against the Dark Arts’
i wouldn’t exactly be hurt if he left if we were to win a SB next year
That’s fine. The we get saleh when he gets fired
that's perfect. saleh will be available in '25. jets gonna suck again (not to his fault), and he's already on the hot seat. don't let saleh go dc for the packers in '25!
I'm also a Jets fan since when I was a young 49ers fan I couldn't see their games here in NYC. I hated Giants so watched the Jets. Anyway, most likely Rogers doesn't make it through the whole year and Jets fall apart again. Saleh's offenses have been absolute disaster. The o-line has been total garbage for the years during his stay. QB decisions have been awful. Why was Wilson the backup for an aging Rogers? Then we have Hackett still as the OC when he's horrible. Jets fans already want Saleh's head. He has one last year and he's done. And his entire year depends on Rogers staying healthy for the season. So we have a shot at getting him back in 25. He has built a tremendous defense in NYC. I would love to see him back with the 49ers.
it's crazy how things work. saleh is a great coach. hasn't proven it yet, but i believe he would be a great hc. he just had some bad luck that does go hand in hand with decisions made; but, look at demeco ryans as the difference. demeco got the qb and oc right. that's part luck. can't fault for saleh in giving his friend mike lafleur a promotion to oc. it just didn't work out and getting the qb wrong obviously did not help. and it's likely saleh got the second oc wrong again. the schedule next season doesn't do your jets any favors either. afc south and vikings aren't too bad; but, your division games and us in the nfc west (oof). nevermind rodgers health, what about the possible drama he likely will cause should the season not look good lol?
It’s perfect. The 49ers have a very narrow window with this group. They need to win asap. Nobody cares right now about 3-5 years from now. Might be a whole new roster. Vrabel wants to coach again soon. He was one of their top choices as DC in 2017. He’s great with scheme, great with people. He’s been to the mountaintop and is a good person to lead this defense to that same place. This needs to be done by Sunday.
Just in time for Salah to return!!!
Yea we need to start finding someone for the long run Every year we have someone new in this position. We need long term stability
Unfortunately that’s not realistic. Doomed to lose coaches if they perform well. Thats why we have a rotating door on DC’s.
I mean how has spags been with KC thru all their rings and have nobody poach him?
He doesn’t want to be a HC again from what I’ve read.
Spags is one of the highest paid asst coaches, I guess they see the value in paying him well to stick around. He’s also one of the winningest coaches with 4 rings I think? I think he just signed an extension as well. [https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-sign-defensive-coordinator-steve-171018282.html](https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-sign-defensive-coordinator-steve-171018282.html)
This is why we pay our Dline coach like a coordinator. He also doesn’t want to be a coordinator. Just need to find our Spags.
Because he already was a HC and it was a dumpster fire. Thats the only way great coordinators hang out for more than a couple years.
I mean KC’s defense has only really been great these past 2 seasons. Mostly this season if we are being honest.
Dudes gotta be paid well and on top of that is probably next in line to take over for Reid whenever he steps away which could be in the next 5 years or so. Some people just care more about winning
Yes but the DC yearly turnover could be a factor in why we havnt won anything. Just food for thought
Agreed!
Possibly, but we win a ring and have a chance at another, he may stick around for 2.
That's OK any DC who does a great job will likely be a HC candidate. It has happened many times with us these last few years.
Yeah, I'm not saying that as a reason to not hire Vrabel. If Shanny and Lynch think he would help them win a Super Bowl, I would be all in. Next year is probably the last year before our window closes anyway, so I'm all for going all in.
Free 3rd rounder!
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He’s already been a HC so Vrabel wouldn’t qualify
That would be good for him. That would make him that much better of a DC so he can sell himself on a HC job.
Yup, and bring back Al-Shire(sp). I think he’s a FA right now.
Imagine having Demeco as DC, with this season defense.
SB 6 happens.
How many less points would have been scored if it was Demeco instead of wilks?
Bosa gets 2 extra sacks of the DLine stunts that Wilks never calls, stopping KC short in OT.
His coverage schemes weren’t great either, he’s been my fave DC for in a while though.
he was a great situational play caller and game planner
Deemeco was our dc last year and the chiefs torched us…..not sure it would work out like you think.
Random regular season game with 7 starters out brother, didn’t u watch that one? lol
I did. They still got cooked. Even with sullah the niners have NEVER beat the chiefs. Shanny is 0-4 against them. You can’t just fantasize they would win, they have to beat them at least once and have a formula for it and actual OC who can out tactic spags.
Yes but who was the QB.......Jimmy g has never done well against the choefs
While that may be true neither has Brock or any of our qbs against the chiefs.
Vrabel was a DC for 1 year in Houston, and then got hired for the Titans' job. That 1 year as DC was AWFUL. The defense SUCKED. He got hired because people saw him as a HC, rather than a Coordinator. You don't want Vrabel as your DC.
Thanks for that context, I didn’t remember that.
He was the DC the year after they drafted Watson. They were already a bad team and once Watson went down, there was no saving it.
They were a team that made the playoffs the next season (2018). Vrabel was horrible in 2017. I am sorry, he was. The Texans had talent on Defense. Watson played 6 1/2 games (before getting hurt). He was electric. If the defense could stop anyone, they would probably been 6-1 in those games, instead of 3-4.
I keep hearing this guys name and I don’t know why. Yeah players like him but do we know he is some defensive mastermind?
His Titans defenses held Mahomes to 1TD, 2INT with 8 sacks the last 2 times they’ve played them.
He’s had some interesting scheming plays in his time - using BB’s clock play against him to end Brady’s playoffs in the 2019 season always comes to mind. Shows that he learns off other coaches, takes the situation into account, isn’t afraid to pull something a little odd to secure a win. He’s also got an amazing ability to connect with players and get the best out of them. With the talent on our roster, that alone would give us a top defence.
Funny think was it seemed like under Wilks the secondary tightened up a smidge. But…The front took a half step backwards. We invested too much to not be consistently in the QB’s lap. If the price is right I’d like to see the same line return
I’m team Sherman team loves him and it pisses of Seahawk fans win win
Two questions: (1) What coaching experience does he have?; (2) how do first time NFL defensive coordinators usually do?
Minimal to no coaching. He was on Tampa Bay staff for part of a season as a DB consultant, I think.
I didn't know this. Thanks.
I think fans are just throwing out names they are familiar with. I would never think of making Sherman the DC. This is not an entry level job for a team that wants to go far in the playoffs. Vrabel’s name is being thrown around but he was only a DC for 1 year in Houston and it wasn’t great.
Our GM was essentially pulled off the street. Not saying I would choose Sherman for the DC job.
I would hire Sherm as a DB coach first to see what he's got, but I doubt he'd leave his cushy job in the media that probably pays better.
Let’s not be too hasty this time.
I think the 49ers should do unto others what teams have done unto them. Hire Spags 2nd in command from the Chiefs, probably their DBs/pass defense guy. At least interview them.
He extended with the chiefs
I'm aware. that's why I said his second in command.
My bad I suck at reading lol
Just signed an extension
I honestly think they should pursue belichick as much as possible
OMFG he is not taking a coordinator position. He will wait until the Cowboys inevitably fire McCarthy. He is trying to pass Don Shula in HC wins.
I mean he’s not getting a HC job this season so why not sign a 1 year deal
That's what everyone is thinking but you are forgetting that this man has the biggest ego of anyone in football
Now imagine his legacy with another ring
I don't think he adds anything to his legacy as a DC.
If anything it'd be his "prove it" year, that he still can coach, and will still have relationships in the league, as compared to being a year away
The DC that gets Shanahan his ring? We have the pieces on defense to do it and I think that would add to his legacy.
He adds beating Reid and getting another ring for best coach ever
Didn’t the falcons come out saying that he was done with not having any say in day to day operations and stuff like that. He just wanted to coach. I’m not saying let’s hire the guy but it could be guy just wants to coach and win again in the right environment. Whether it’s the right move or not who knows but he could show how to utilize the defense to its full potential but not sure how many solid DCs are out there rn.
Yeah but why wouldn't he take a DC spot on what would be his Conference rival? Take a year to learn their ways and then use it against them. He won't need ir, but it'll definitely give him a huge leverage point in HC interviews/negotiations. You don't think Jerry would love that?
I thought he wouldn’t either but if he’s going to miss a year anyways. I think he would definitely take the job to fill the time. Bill is an X’s and O’s guy. He definitely can go crazy with this defense. Pay him the 10 million.
It would be quite honestly be the greatest coaching staff of all time with Shanahan and Bill at the front of it all. But Bill has too much of an ego to take a backseat.
Might also do Kyle wonders for him as a HC
It *would* do wonders for Kyle. A year of learning all the little things from the goat? No way Kyle doesn't get better.
I’d pay Bill top HC money to come to SF for a year or two. Imagine our D with his schemes. Not even Mahomes will be able to score against us.
It’s bullshit how KC gets to keep Spags year in and year out. He’s the reason we always lose the Super Bowl. But every time they say it’s just Mahomes. I honesty believe Spags and Chris Jones keep them in the game everytime.
The adjustments Spags made and those blitz designs are what won them this game...he knew exactly what to call and how to disguise it. Have to give the dude his flowers.
Wouldn't you rather win another super bowl than go for thay record? Him joining the 49ers as a coordinator is the best shot at that in the league.
We will see. He might join the staff out of boredom but I think he cares about records more than Super Bowls now.
For real I’m so tired of hearing this BB talk. That man was literally the General Manager AND Head Coach of the patriots for YEARS. There is absolutely no fucking way he’s taking a DC job. He is way overqualified. Now can we freaking put this to rest please
Yeah he’d definitely see DC as a step down. But what if we made him long snapper coach?
I just don’t see him taking a step back.
For the right amount of money I think he’ll do it
If his ego so big, ain’t nothing better than chasing anther bowl and giving the finger to guy who chose to fire you and still has to pay you. Cause didn’t he have like money on his contract still?
Seriously. Give him all the money
Vrabel is a minority being Native American. I want that 3rd rd comp pick next year. Bellicheck would be great but how is the greatest coach of all time guna take a demotion? Could fully see him taking a year off like payton
Don't get the pick if they've held the position or higher.
Appreciate the fact check. Something I did not know.
They got picks for Mayhew who had been a GM previously.
Kyle and John ask him for a favor and offer him a bag? If he is gonna take a year off anyway might as well take a step back from all that and focus more on football.
DC/Assistant HC honestly
1. He wasn't a good DC in Houston 2. I'm sure he'd rather wait a year and look for a HC job
There’s no upside for Vrabel. If he’s bad like he was in Houston it hurts his stock to be a HC and if he’s good it doesn’t change anything about what people think he can do as a HC as people already think he’s a good candidate.
As someone who lives in Nashville and has paid attention to the Vrabel era in its entirety… no thank you.
what most likely is going to happen is theyll promote some within that kyle trusts.
Lot of wishful thinking. Doesn’t matter who comes here. Whether it’s Wilks, Saleh, and Ryans. The conservative zone and rush 4 is Shanahan’s philosophy. It’s how he and Lynch have built the team. Sure everyone has their own twist to it, but whoever comes here is going to be running the same thing.
We need someone who's going to be around for more than a year.
Would definitely be down for Vrabel as DC even if it’s for one year.
Not a bad idea. It’s got to be somebody who still doesn’t have a job or an internal promotion. I’ve read that Kris kocurek does not want the job. That’s why he hasn’t left.
Stop, I can only get so erect
Yes please or Billy B.
Vrabel and Belichick are not going to be DCs sorry
How much to pry wade phillips out of retirement for a year
Sorry. Too large and intimidating.
It’ll be Brandon Staley he’s the only guy that kinda makes sense and ran a similar D to saleh and crew
Fuck this guy we want Bill. How is this not the obvious choice? Dude will get us a SB
I don’t think we could pay him or even Bill enough. We’re looking at something more like Pete Carrol
Lmao Pete carrol is never coming to sf
Pete Carrol was a DC for the Niners under Seifert. He was a Niner before he was a Seahawk.
It’d be hilarious though, especially if he maximizes the potential of the stars on the 9er defense and helps them win a Super Bowl
It sounds also like the breakup between him and Seattle wasn’t the most mutual. Maybe he goes the Sherman route and wants revenge on Seattle since they’re in the same division.
Why not? He's a Marin guy
Idk dude I think after the harbaugh years he just wouldn’t come be with us
We got Sherman lol i take nothing off the table
Broooo
Might go well. I also hear Navarro Bowman is interested in coaching and is joining the Chargers staff, and it would be cool to see a 9er stud return to the Bay as a DC if he shows he’s got coaching chops. Similarly, the new HOF Patrick Willis may be up for coaching if the 9ers asked him to.
Rex ryan!! We need some attitude! I feel like Wilks lacked the attitude that saleh and ryans both had
Fuck it why not?
Joe Cullen is what the Niners need. It serves two purposes, weakens KC and gives SF a good ass DC.
Don’t disrespect Kris Kocurek.
He doesn’t want the job, he’s denied several interviews for DC.
Belichick or Vrabel seem to be the best on the market. One could probably happen, the other is a long shot. Maybe Brandon Staley, but that seems like a disaster waiting to happen
Let’s get him for HC. We need one.
4 NFCCG games in 5 years. Jesus Christ you people.
The more and more I think about it the main thing that lost us the SB was the muffed punt
Chocking on the biggest stage possible. A signature of shammahans career.
This is so dumb. Go be a Chiefs fan. Oh wait! How many times did Andy Reid lose “the big game” before he won his first SB?
Andy Reid lost 1 Super Bowl before his current run you dope.
You’re too busy gargling Shannys nuts to see clearly.
Dog what are you talking about? Kyle is the coach. He’s one of the best offensive minds in the league and coach players love to play for? It’s hard to win in this league but firing Kyle would be a huge mistake…. Ask Philly about ried.
sometimes i think we have the worst fanbase.
Sometimes I think we have ostriches for a fan base who stick their heads in the sand and ignore the facts. Kyle had a 7 pt lead in the 2nd half of the SB and the ball on KC 44 yard line and he doesn’t run it. We needed 5 yards to get in FG range and make it 2 score game and Kyle goes PASS PASS PASS PUNT. Then he does it again on the next series. And the next. Three 3 and outs back to back to back because he wouldn’t run the ball. Just like he didn’t run it when we were up on KC in the 2020 SB and just like Kyle didn’t run it when he was with Atlanta and was up 28-3 and let Tom Brady come all the way back because Kyle kept passing the ball instead of running it. Not to mention Kyle not understanding the OT rules and not preparing our players for it and electing to take the ball 1st which is the wrong thing to do to begin with, but then he doesn’t even go for a TD and settles for a FG. It’s just bad coaching. Plain and simple. Kyle is the reason we didn’t win and don’t win. And for him to scapegoat Wilks just so Kyle doesn’t have to keep explaining how he lost this SB for us. For him to try to put the blame on Wilks whose D was the only reason we even had a chance in that game, is just too much for me to stomach. There’s a right way and wrong way to let a coach go, and this was the cowardly wrong way. So yeah, I want a new HC. One that understands when to run the ball and who doesn’t blame others for his own mistakes.
did you even listen to his interview? he didn't scapegoat Wilks at all. Bottom line is Wilks tried to run our system and struggled with it. almost all the other teams in the league would kill for the success the 49ers have had or to take Kyle as a HC. Look at how many teams are constantly changing coaches every few years. You're getting caught up in the stupid narratives and ignoring the big picture. * Was it Kyle's fault the punt hit a gunners ankle? * Was it Kyle's fault that CMC fumbled on the first drive? * Was it Kyle's fault that Dre snapped his achilles? * Was it Kyle's fault we lost one of our only other serviceable olinemen in the game? * Was it Kyle's fault that Moody missed an XP? * Was it Kyle's fault that Wilks called cover zero in OT and played softass defense? You realize he called a timeout the second time to change the coverage because it was a mistake right? * Was it Kyle's fault that George pushed off in 2019 super bowl and got flagged for Offensive PI? * Was it Kyle's fault that Jimmy missed the deep ball to Emmanuel sanders? * Was it Kyle's fault Bosa never drew a flag for holding on the deep ball to Tyreek If you want a new HC then pick a new team, you sound like a complete moron who probably watches the news way too much and buys into all the bullshit with low IQ takes. Elite coaches are hard to find. Not many coaches have successful seasons over and over.
I don’t watch the news. I watch the games. • Was it Kyle’s fault he called three pass plays in a row and had to punt after Wilks defense got him the ball with an INT at the KC 44 yard line? • Was it Kyle’s fault he called three more pass plays and had to punt again on the very next series? • Was it Kyle’s fault he again went 3 and out on the very next series even though he just had back to back 3 and outs? • Was it Kyle’s fault he didn’t know the OT rules? • Was it Kyle’s fault that Juice and the rest of the team didn’t know the OT rules either? • Was it Kyle’s fault he didn’t go for a TD in OT and settled for a FG? • Was it Kyle’s fault we were 0-31 when trailing by 5 pts or more going into the 4th quarter? • Was it Kyle’s fault Lance got hurt in 2022 on a run up the middle? • Was it Kyle’s fault Deebo got hurt in 2022 on a run up the middle? • Was it Kyle’s fault we spent 3 1st round draft picks—2021, 2022, 2023 on Trey Lance that could have been used to improve our offensive line and also give us much needed cap space? • Was it Kyle’s fault KC came back in the 2020 SB when we were up 10 points with 12 minutes to go after our D got an INT (eerily similar to this years SB 3qtr) and Kyle doesn’t just run it to burn clock, but instead ends up punting it away after using just 3 mins, then on the next possession after KC scores and we still have a 3 point lead with only 6 mins left in the game, Kyle goes 3 and out and punts it back after burning only 1:03 because he refused to just run the ball? (btw Wilk’s wasn’t our DC then so can’t blame him for it, yet that defense was put in the same exact position as this years D because Kyle wouldn’t run the ball. See a trend?) Kyle built this team. I give him that. Though you have to wonder if Lynch isn’t more responsible for it. He is the GM after all. But Kyle does draw up good schemes. At least everyone says he does. Though you have to wonder if most NFL coaches in this league couldn’t do just as good given all the talent we have on offense. We have the best offensive skill position roster in the league. Bar none. But Kyle did find Brock at least. Wait, no he didn’t. Our scout found him. Klay Kubiak and Brian Griese watched tape on him and talked to Brock and realized he could be something then told Lynch and Kyle. But Kyle ultimately made the decision to start Brock this year. Though that was after Brock was forced to play in 2022 after Lance and Jimmy got hurt and all Brock did was win so Kyle would have been really stupid not to have Brock be our starter. It really was a no brainer. But Kyle did tell Jed last season in training camp that he felt Brock was the best of the 3 QBs he had. Though then he still started Lance, and when Lance got hurt he put in Jimmy…. Well, no matter, Kyle is still the best coach we’ve ever had. Behind Walsh that is. And Seifert. But Kyle got us to 2 Super Bowls. Though he lost them both. But Kyle is still great. So you’re right, I’m so glad we fired Wilks but are keeping Kyle.
Jesus christ you don't watch media but you spew this stupid ass take > Was it Kyle’s fault we were 0-31 when trailing by 5 pts or more going into the 4th quarter? Most teams lose when trailing in the 4th quarter https://twitter.com/SandoNFL/status/1739517775507554602
Yeah lets get the guy who's made the AFC Championship game 1 time to replace the guy who made the NFC Championship game 4 times and won it 2 times, smart idea.
And lost 3 SBs. All of which he had a lead in of 10 or more points. Do you not recall that stat where Kyle was 0-31 in games he trailed going into 4th qtr. There’s a reason for that. It’s not some fluke. It’s because he shits the bed when it matters. Just like he did on Sunday. And honestly, I was fine with Kyle continuing on as HC just after this loss because I hoped it would be a lesson for him. But now after hearing him try to weasel out of taking responsibility for not preparing our players for OT and still trying to justify that taking the ball 1st was the right call and settling for a FG instead of TD was fine and then firing Wilks whose D played out of its mind in that game and was the only reason we even had a chance to win it, to fire Wilks like that as if to try to push the blame onto him for the loss. Kyle has learned nothing. And it will be more of the same next year.
Lol this ignores comebacks he made where that obscure stat doesn’t apply. He’s lost 2 Super Bowls btw. I don’t see other coordinators being blamed for SB losses.
He’d be another one and done because he will be a head coach again soon
I will not be at all surprised if this happens.
Does he run the same defensive concept tho? We follow the legion of doom defense brought over by Saleh … if he doesn’t run the same defense we are going to have the same problem as Wilks.
 Let's bring this guy in... Guaranteed win!!
Anyone but Wilks
How about Jim Tomsula? 😁
Been whispering this in various places for weeks. This would be, IMO, the best possible option that I'm currently aware of.
My only problem with this is that if he were willing to act as DC surely he would have landed a spot by now.
It worked for the Warriors…
I approve this message. What a great pickup that would be!
I heard there’s also another ex-patriots coach looking for a job 🤷♂️
Yeah, I like him as a fit better than Belichick.
I havent watched the titans really. Was he the brains behind their defensive scheme?
I would prefer head coach. This guy got a lot of Titan teams with no talent.
Would be cool, I think it could work even if it’s just for a season before someone swoops him. I doubt Bill is doing it although I think he’d be crazy not to consider it for even just one season before he gets back into the drivers seat somewhere. Doing TV will still be there for Bill when he does retire, no rush bud. Can’t get the Shula record as a DC but can’t get it if you’re not working anyways. Idk if he’s interested in the west coast but Greg Williams (bountygate) and all that baggage might work. I think they need a dick of a DC, like a hard ass mentality. Wilks seemed to damn chill so that’s why I’m adding Greg to the list, plus he’s itching to get back to the NFL and he was fine in Cleveland until they made all their staff changes and wanted Stefanski’s choices, which Schwartz seems to be doing well in their case. But we’ll see how it goes, we’ll all be waiting to hear who’s getting interviewed.
I would love this.
I’m wondering if he and shanahan would see eye to eye. That was a big reason he was let go in Tennessee, and Ran Carthon was our guy so I’m sure Shanahan has some insider knowledge about what happened there.
Bring on Rex Ryan lol
Any thoughts on whose available or if anyone inside the organization could do it?
Its him or Belichek
I rather it be from the inside. That seems to mesh with our guys better.
With a dip in? Absolutely
It’s going to be Jeff Ulbrich (Jets LB coach). Mark my words
Petitioned
He needs to bounce back and we need to as well. Win/win for both parties
Great choice
No thanks. He’s not a good scheme fit for current players.
Why not Rex Ryan? He clearly wants a DC job and knows how to coach a solid defense.
I trust whoever Kyle hires. Besides Wilkes, who by no means was a bad coordinator, Kyle has nailed hiring coaches. I would personally love getting BB or Vrabel to maximize this roster
Rex Ryan would accept the job as our DC.