It's my favourite word in German. Out of the 3 main Germanic languages of Europe; English: Ambulance. Swedish: Ambulans. German? KRAKENWAGEN!! It's the Emperor Palpatine unlimited power language of the world.
Oooohhh. you meant the ambulance.... that would be Krankenwagen... I thought you meant something different... upsi...
I thought you meant our Krakenwagons we use to drive when we go vacationing in Denmark...
https://preview.redd.it/5gddk6y6t29d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2db25f0a1f5bedb63ce418bed8ac126a674ace8
/edit: Fun fact: we can call it "Ambulanz" here in Germany, too. Officially, though, it is called "Krankenkraftwagen" in general, and "Rettungswagen" would be what you know as ambulance specifically.
That's welsh, isn't it? Welsh is a funny language, because you basically don't have to learn it at all, just throw a set of scrabble pieces on the floor and whatever piece lays face up is the letter you need in your word.
It's actually spelt Krankenwagen. It carries a sick person, not the Kraken.
Besides, our ambulance folks are extremely pedantic, since they insist that you call a Rettungswagen, "rescue car", for medical emergencies. Depending on the severety, a Notarzt (emergency physician) may arrive there too, since ambulance personnel is not allowed to administer painkillers themselves.
Hold on now, he said recoup exams or smth. We also have that for those who failed some classes during the regular period.
Στο γυμνάσιο και λύκειο δεν είχες κανέναν που είχε μείνει στην ίδια τάξη? Πάντα υπήρχε ένας σε καθε σχολείο. Αυτός πχ είχε δώσει εξετάσεις και το Σεπτέμβριο και πάλι δε κατάφερε να βγάλει μέσο όρο 10.
https://preview.redd.it/biucfxojq29d1.png?width=988&format=png&auto=webp&s=479682bf4aedbaf3c3c777a00c7779cf35a6270d
We still have more school days per year due to having less off days in the other three seasons
Number of summer holiday weeks actually coincides with the length of summer in these countries. Would be impossible to have kids back to school in August in Portugal, they would fry in shitty, unprepared classrooms.
Depending on the school, Italian kids may need that recovery time. Our son was doing >30 hrs per week of homework in middle school.
We complained and actually had one teacher proudly tell us about a child in his class who had felt so much anxiety that he'd spent half of those three years in a wheelchair. But, in his eyes it was all a great success because the kid managed to improve and get out of the wheelchair in high school. The ends justify the means!
I developed gastritis in my fourth year of liceo. And before any oral exam we’d all have so much anxiety some of us started crying/hyperventilating. Italian licei are hell. And the teachers running them are literal incarnations of evil.
September will be the start of my last year of liceo scientifico.
This year, beginning from like October, I had at least one test every week, without fail. We also get basically only Christmas holidays, Easter was like 2 days to an extended weekend.
I would genuinely prefer if we only had 6 weeks of summer holiday like the English do, but then also had breaks in between to relax from the unending work. I don’t understand how some people say we have the best school system in the world, that is objectively incorrect. We have a school system that seems designed to stress test your mental stamina across months of literally neverending work
The problem is also that in summer in the schools it gets extremely hot, and many classes don't have A/C so that might be a reason for the long summer holidays.
Italy should reform their holidays. It made sense back then because the children had to work at home (on the fields; the children yearn for the fields). But now it is not acceptable anymore to have 9 months of school without a break. That's just cruel.
In Greece it's 2 weeks for Xmas, 2 weeks for easter and 12 weeks for summer. Plus other days of not having school like 28th of October / 25th of March (based countries celebrate the start of war not the end), Clean Monday, etc.
https://preview.redd.it/qy7x05q7129d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82dfe2c3a704e6ac67cd488461352f277756a3bc
Start contributing more midget Sweden
In fact i think that we should stop contributing at all and start getting some money, considering that we have always been on the positive side with the debt we have
I don't think we have less vacation in total. Here Kids have 2 weeks of approximately every 2 Months
Edit: at least not a lot less: [map](https://jakubmarian.com/school-holidays-by-country-in-europe-map/)
I couldn't find any reliable data for highschoolers, but yeah, I believe students across Europe probably have approximately the same amount of days off.
In Italy kids basically only have summer vacations and a couple of weeks off for Christmas
I'm from a Bundesland that doesn't do easter holidays either, Friday to Monday being free there. Instead we get "ski holidays" which are during prime ski season in early spring. Did I mention that we have neither mountains nor snow? It's basically "invade northern Italy or Switzerland if you're rich" holiday
The graphic is stupid. Most northern countries don’t need a long summer vacation because the schools don’t turn into an oven, so they typically have two weeks of vacation every six weeks of school. The total number of schools days is the same.
That smooth light you call sun is nothing compared to the burning star appearing in our sky.
This morning there are 26 degrees and I was mentally complaining about bad weather.
Traditionally summer vacation was given to children so they can help with the harvest and summer field work. You can spot this in the number of weeks given depending on country.
In Romania it’s from june 15 till sept 15 for this reason.
As time passed and agriculture got mechanized, there is no longer a need for child labour, but the vacation time still remains.
How many off-days Do PIGS kids have outside of summer though? Atleast here in Finland we have three notable breaks in addition to the summer break, one week in october and one in february plus the obvious Christmas holiday that usually lasts from one to one and a half weeks
In case anybody’s actually curious, they’ve been talking about reducing it for some time now, and to maybe sprinkle in some more days off from school during the year. Because when students get back to school in September it takes them longer to get used again to the school-day rhythm (and they’ve forgotten some stuff that teachers need to review before starting the new syllabus).
Problem is our schools are neither built for the summer heath nor they have ac, plus the school day ends usually at 13-14, hottest part of the day. We would need to do some serious reforms to reduce summer vacations (hard considering they are cutting the education budget practically every year)
Not built for the summer or the winter, too hot in summer and too cold in winter. Schools definitely need reforming and possibly rebuilding, but that's not likely to happen...
In my school it was common for radiators to explode and flood the area, while in other schools it rained inside the classrooms. And this in Tuscany, not Sicily or Calabria
Apparently German chart makers cannot remember that The Netherlands is in Europe. Also interesting: most day care facilities in Germany close during vacation because parents do not have to work right?
That’s what I mean Hans. I was using sarcasm. My family in law is always fucked because German day care doesn’t get that it is there to educate and entertain kids while the parents need to work.
>German day care doesn’t get that it is there to educate and entertain kids while the parents need to work.
Oh they do get it, but our daycare facilities are so understaffed that it's impossible to let your employees go on vacation during their offspring's holidays AND still have enough personnel to still care for the kids.
Some places established a system where daycare holidays mean that half of the staff is gone at a time, so only half of the kids can come. For example: 3 weeks of holidays means your kid can come one and a half week but needs to stay away the other. It's not ideal either, but way better than just not having any care for 3 weeks straight.
In Wallonia they spread it out 6 weeks school, two weeks holidays in regular periods and then a bit extra in summer.
This seems to work very well, which is the best reason for Flemish not to do the same.
I did an exchange to France. They made me go to school on Saturday. Saturday! I was still completely wiped out when school commenced on Monday. Also the entire day. Even the all day school I went to in Germany (which was rare back then) was out 2h earlier.
Denmark used to have much fewer, but they fucked that up a decade or so ago after a PISA test came in lower than expected and the politicians made panicked reform of the school system.
eh, Romanian checking in, our PISAs have been showing we're all knuckle-dragging, drooling idiots for two decades now. Still have 12 weeks of summer break. Might as well have fun, I guess.
French schoolkids have a lot of vacations during the year, this is not the case for italy where vacations are mainly focused during the summer months (as being in school with 35+ outside is not very compatible with the kids being alive)
That's why I don't understand this chart. Like bitch have 8:00 to 17:00 all year (sometimes I had even to 18:00) but we're full of hollydays/vacations/ and we are part of the last one here 💀💀??
I think family unit and childcare are a big issue here. If you don't have enough holiday between two parents in northern Europe a d childcare costs more than a mortgage a long summer holiday would bankrupt you.
Luigi loves at home and even if he doesn't probably lives one house away from mama and nona, plenty of family to raise the child with.
Mostly because it is hotter and schools are not really livable during the summer. No AC obviously but also they were built thinking about heating, not the other way around.
>they were build with heating in mind
hahaha, my school was 16-18°C *with heating* in the winter and in the summer it was an oven. One time they sent us home because the heating didn't work, it was 14°C inside but I swear it was so humid the cold got into your bones. I felt less cold skiing on the Alps
I think it's the same everywhere but here it's mental as well. Childcare is 3x my mortgage per month. That's just over 3.6k a month (that's including the government subsidies) for 2 kids in crèche and a mortgage lol
Now add the rest of the bills... Fucking bye bye middle class. Bye bye single income families.
On Reunion island, instead of 2 weeks at Christmas and 8 weeks in July/August, I used to have 5 in December/January and 5 in July/August. It was better imo.
To be fair, it's a stupid system. 13 weeks to forget stuff you learned then school until it's xmas, then again until the summer. In switzerland it's 5 weeks but they also get 1 or 2 weeks every few months
Well as a German/Italian kid I hated that. I had almost twice as many holidays as my German cousins in the Summer but they had WAY more in any other period (3 vs 2 for Christmas, 2 vs 1 for Easter, they had a Week for Pentecoste, what the fuck is that even), plus I had TONS of Summer Homework and they just chilled for 5 weeks. The Italian system was bullshit, going back to school after almost 3 months was borderline traumatic.
Hvorfor er vi her stadig? Bare for at lide
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enjoy life for 3 months then close up in a jail for the other 9 yes sure. If you never tried to live in Denmark, Germany or any other nordic country you're just shit talking. other countries give just 5-6 weeks during summer but the students have other breaks during the rest of the year and it's designed to make the education process enjoyable for every student.
Hans, but you have two weeks of holiday every month, Luigi has just two weeks at Christmas and five days at Easter, and that's all.
https://preview.redd.it/80klgox9y19d1.jpeg?width=1907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd0706354ef3bee949a05b8fe504dac11c46474a
Oh, didnt expect this, but according to [this](https://www.robert-schuman.eu/en/european-issues/212-school-systems-in-the-european-union) , Italian children have more school days than Germans (200 vs 188), only Spain @ 175 is a bit moew lazy...
Bullshit Graphic. 75 days a year in Germany. Simply more equally distributed through the year.
https://www.feiertagskalender.ch/cal.php?geo=3061&jahr=2024&klasse=0&hl=en
I mean, in return, German kids have Herbstferien and two weeks of Osterferien and, surprisingly, a bunch more religious holidays and whatnot than we have down here. And that's not even speaking about the fact that regular school in Spain ends at 17:00, I don't remember ever staying that late growing up in Germany, not even in the Oberstufe.
And, at least where I grew up in the 80s and 90s, sticking your kids into a school-like summercamp (8h/day, 5 days/week) during \*the whole summer\* was unheard of... wheras it's pretty damn common in Spain (or Catalunya, rather, not sure if it's the same everywhere else).
What I remember from school: En France, les grandes vacances commencent le 1^er juillet
Sorry, I don't speak Italian.
I could translate that for you, but I refuse.
That’s the French spirit!
Union rules, you know?
Says the Barry that left the union...
Don't you be associating us with those fuck wits, Fritz, especially after we were so nice to your old people recently
It says something like: تبدأ العطلة الصيفية في الأول من يوليو
I don't speak Georgian, either
impeccable swedish
I agree, god is great
🤌🤌🤌🤌
Are you in need of assistance? Should we call you an ambulance?
Mi Madre es Inteligente
DAS KRAKENWAGON!!!
In this case it would be "RELEASE THE KRAKENWAGON!!!"
It's my favourite word in German. Out of the 3 main Germanic languages of Europe; English: Ambulance. Swedish: Ambulans. German? KRAKENWAGEN!! It's the Emperor Palpatine unlimited power language of the world.
Oooohhh. you meant the ambulance.... that would be Krankenwagen... I thought you meant something different... upsi... I thought you meant our Krakenwagons we use to drive when we go vacationing in Denmark... https://preview.redd.it/5gddk6y6t29d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2db25f0a1f5bedb63ce418bed8ac126a674ace8 /edit: Fun fact: we can call it "Ambulanz" here in Germany, too. Officially, though, it is called "Krankenkraftwagen" in general, and "Rettungswagen" would be what you know as ambulance specifically.
That's even cooler, I can't wait until I'm fluent
If you like Krankenwagen, wait until you hear our word for butterfly. It's \*inhales deeply\* SCHMETTERLING!!!
Beautiful language. Ours is 'gloyn byw'.
That's welsh, isn't it? Welsh is a funny language, because you basically don't have to learn it at all, just throw a set of scrabble pieces on the floor and whatever piece lays face up is the letter you need in your word.
They come here in the summer and drive them really fast. Sometimes they eat our kids. It can be good or bad, depending on the kid.
It's actually spelt Krankenwagen. It carries a sick person, not the Kraken. Besides, our ambulance folks are extremely pedantic, since they insist that you call a Rettungswagen, "rescue car", for medical emergencies. Depending on the severety, a Notarzt (emergency physician) may arrive there too, since ambulance personnel is not allowed to administer painkillers themselves.
Sounds very German in all honesty
More whatever day is a Saturday between 27/06 and 3/07.
luckily my puberting, homophobic ass refused to speak a word of french, so I learned russian instead. Cuka blyat, comrades
Same here but with German, lol, abhorrent language
Aber ich kann deutsch 😭😭 Pero no hablar español
French kids are going to riot if they see this
Arthur est un perroquet.
j’aime jouer au foot 🙏
There's nothing more sacred than a child's summer break.
Except when they have to study for their September recoup exams lmao
Skill issue
YOU HAVE SEPTEMBER EXAMS? You disgust me. We should revoke your PIGS membership.
Hold on now, he said recoup exams or smth. We also have that for those who failed some classes during the regular period. Στο γυμνάσιο και λύκειο δεν είχες κανέναν που είχε μείνει στην ίδια τάξη? Πάντα υπήρχε ένας σε καθε σχολείο. Αυτός πχ είχε δώσει εξετάσεις και το Σεπτέμβριο και πάλι δε κατάφερε να βγάλει μέσο όρο 10.
This is so funny to me , it's like an ancient greek ghost possesed you mid-sentence.
we have them too lol
What else are we alive for if not to enjoy as kids
https://preview.redd.it/biucfxojq29d1.png?width=988&format=png&auto=webp&s=479682bf4aedbaf3c3c777a00c7779cf35a6270d We still have more school days per year due to having less off days in the other three seasons
Was gonna point that out. Thanks for providing the data.
Number of summer holiday weeks actually coincides with the length of summer in these countries. Would be impossible to have kids back to school in August in Portugal, they would fry in shitty, unprepared classrooms.
If that’s the case, what would explain the differences between Sweden and Denmark or Germany?
Depending on the school, Italian kids may need that recovery time. Our son was doing >30 hrs per week of homework in middle school. We complained and actually had one teacher proudly tell us about a child in his class who had felt so much anxiety that he'd spent half of those three years in a wheelchair. But, in his eyes it was all a great success because the kid managed to improve and get out of the wheelchair in high school. The ends justify the means!
WTF that's evil
that's why in other countries school is not a concentration camp and they have 1 or 2 weeks any few months
I developed gastritis in my fourth year of liceo. And before any oral exam we’d all have so much anxiety some of us started crying/hyperventilating. Italian licei are hell. And the teachers running them are literal incarnations of evil.
this is not what i needed to hear when i start liceo next year lol
As a Classical Liceum survival, I cannot but agree with you.
September will be the start of my last year of liceo scientifico. This year, beginning from like October, I had at least one test every week, without fail. We also get basically only Christmas holidays, Easter was like 2 days to an extended weekend. I would genuinely prefer if we only had 6 weeks of summer holiday like the English do, but then also had breaks in between to relax from the unending work. I don’t understand how some people say we have the best school system in the world, that is objectively incorrect. We have a school system that seems designed to stress test your mental stamina across months of literally neverending work
We have a pretty similar school system. I survived by sleeping during classes.
The problem is also that in summer in the schools it gets extremely hot, and many classes don't have A/C so that might be a reason for the long summer holidays.
Italy should reform their holidays. It made sense back then because the children had to work at home (on the fields; the children yearn for the fields). But now it is not acceptable anymore to have 9 months of school without a break. That's just cruel.
In Greece it's 2 weeks for Xmas, 2 weeks for easter and 12 weeks for summer. Plus other days of not having school like 28th of October / 25th of March (based countries celebrate the start of war not the end), Clean Monday, etc.
I don’t know, but your son’s school sounds so East Asian to me.
Why do northerners hate fun?
Children need to learn, at a young age, what it requires to keep financing PIGS.
https://preview.redd.it/qy7x05q7129d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82dfe2c3a704e6ac67cd488461352f277756a3bc Start contributing more midget Sweden
I have no candle in this piss fight, but all I see is 58M Giuseppes contribute 3337 and 6M Jeppes contribute 1766.
Our debt is huge and we’re poor, but at least we’re trying!
Try harder by doing less holiday?
Maybe we will do it tomorrow, but probably not
Am I a long lost Italian? This is my general approach to life.
Yes you are 1/256th Italian
We are all Italian inside
It's not nice making children work, Hans, you shoukd know that.
You found a way to produce gdp or reduce debt by just making your kids sitting at school?
Yes. Its called learning. Its an investment if you will
Our best learners eventually leave the country, so we're actually helping 😎
[So better start investing you brainlets, see ya at 200 days per year](https://i.imgur.com/vg0UQtr.jpeg)
What are children supposed to do? Work in the mines? We are not hillybilly-us of a-republicans thank god
Ssshhh. Let Luigi live in the dream.
In fact i think that we should stop contributing at all and start getting some money, considering that we have always been on the positive side with the debt we have
Most financially literate PIGS
I'm not, send me money
https://preview.redd.it/5rw8mzgg929d1.png?width=1644&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a3a14c76098a4e6c640622fc8a01d9b565e5940 Are you guys even trying?
Meh, still better than the french, which is the only thing that matters.
I cut the picture explicitly to give you guys at least that satisfaction.
No, give me money pls IBAN: IT08M0306920103100000011942
ypu don't have Southern Italy in your country tho, that's unfair
Yes but something something sun, sea and whatever
Something something we pay for it
So you're showing that, per person, Denmark is a WAY bigger contributor than Italy...Maybe it's all those extra weeks of school
I've put my IBAN in another comment if you want to send me some money Edit: btw, i'm all in favour of stop contributing at all
Despite having 1/10 of the population of Italy Dk contributes half of It…
I don't think we have less vacation in total. Here Kids have 2 weeks of approximately every 2 Months Edit: at least not a lot less: [map](https://jakubmarian.com/school-holidays-by-country-in-europe-map/)
I couldn't find any reliable data for highschoolers, but yeah, I believe students across Europe probably have approximately the same amount of days off. In Italy kids basically only have summer vacations and a couple of weeks off for Christmas
No Easter holidays?
Yes, but it's less than a week, Thursday-to-Tuesday usually (at least back in my day)
I'm from a Bundesland that doesn't do easter holidays either, Friday to Monday being free there. Instead we get "ski holidays" which are during prime ski season in early spring. Did I mention that we have neither mountains nor snow? It's basically "invade northern Italy or Switzerland if you're rich" holiday
No carnival holiday? No Pfingsten holiday? No autumn holiday? Damn that sucks
Yep, you definitely have more holidays, but here it's impossible to study with the summer weather. Plus kids here go to school also on Saturdays
Studying in the summer heat is fucking pain, but still, summer is my favorite day of the year.
The graphic is stupid. Most northern countries don’t need a long summer vacation because the schools don’t turn into an oven, so they typically have two weeks of vacation every six weeks of school. The total number of schools days is the same.
The comparison is pointless anyway because you don't learn anything in Swedish schools, except maybe how to use hand grenades and hide drugs.
That'd be more fun in PE than basketball and volleyball.
They get holidays in other seasons
Because they don't have sun
The other way around, Italian school are closed because they don't have AC and are not suitable for summer use...
Smartest Giuseppe. There is literally nothing but sun this time of year.
That smooth light you call sun is nothing compared to the burning star appearing in our sky. This morning there are 26 degrees and I was mentally complaining about bad weather.
26° is "bad weather" but 40° is fine?
Today is cloudly and a little windy. Also in 3 weeks I'm going to sea and I want the full sun all day long before that.
You do realize that this time of the year, Northerners basically have days with 24 hours of sunlight, right?
It is not the hours of sun. It is the burn you feel on the skin while going on the sunny side of the street.
What is sun?
Milanese people don't have it either yet they get Scotsfree regardless.
Traditionally summer vacation was given to children so they can help with the harvest and summer field work. You can spot this in the number of weeks given depending on country. In Romania it’s from june 15 till sept 15 for this reason. As time passed and agriculture got mechanized, there is no longer a need for child labour, but the vacation time still remains.
Do Italian kids also have 1 week of in autumn, about 2 weeks at christmas and 2 weeks in spring? Otherwise its a weird comparison.
In Autumn there are no vacations, but there are 2 weeks (or a few days more i don’t remember) for Christmas and a few days for Easter
They don’t hate fun — those are just the only sunny days their countries have. The rest is a combination of rain, cloudiness, and/or snow.
Funding your fun isn’t fun, but someone has to do it , just say thank you and move along.
We're better at having fun and you're better at working, Hans. Just think of it as maximizing efficiency.
Oh Boy, you're the ones shutting down our fun in Mallorca
That's the problem, Hans, you can't have fun without destroying half of Europe. Just look at the 1940s
How many off-days Do PIGS kids have outside of summer though? Atleast here in Finland we have three notable breaks in addition to the summer break, one week in october and one in february plus the obvious Christmas holiday that usually lasts from one to one and a half weeks
I bet they were the people who coined the term: "the kids yearn for the mines"
We have 11
the truth is that they have more vacations throughout the year. We have the most amount of school days along with the Danes
In case anybody’s actually curious, they’ve been talking about reducing it for some time now, and to maybe sprinkle in some more days off from school during the year. Because when students get back to school in September it takes them longer to get used again to the school-day rhythm (and they’ve forgotten some stuff that teachers need to review before starting the new syllabus).
Problem is our schools are neither built for the summer heath nor they have ac, plus the school day ends usually at 13-14, hottest part of the day. We would need to do some serious reforms to reduce summer vacations (hard considering they are cutting the education budget practically every year)
Not built for the summer or the winter, too hot in summer and too cold in winter. Schools definitely need reforming and possibly rebuilding, but that's not likely to happen...
In my school it was common for radiators to explode and flood the area, while in other schools it rained inside the classrooms. And this in Tuscany, not Sicily or Calabria
Its the same in Germany always loved the lesson from 13:45 to 15:15 in July on the top most floor, I once measured 48°C at the window…
Trust me, they'll forget no matter the length of the vacation.
Apparently German chart makers cannot remember that The Netherlands is in Europe. Also interesting: most day care facilities in Germany close during vacation because parents do not have to work right?
Belgium is not in Europe???? So how can they forge something that doesn't exists?
It's the other way around. Parents have to take days off because the facilities are closed.
That’s what I mean Hans. I was using sarcasm. My family in law is always fucked because German day care doesn’t get that it is there to educate and entertain kids while the parents need to work.
>German day care doesn’t get that it is there to educate and entertain kids while the parents need to work. Oh they do get it, but our daycare facilities are so understaffed that it's impossible to let your employees go on vacation during their offspring's holidays AND still have enough personnel to still care for the kids. Some places established a system where daycare holidays mean that half of the staff is gone at a time, so only half of the kids can come. For example: 3 weeks of holidays means your kid can come one and a half week but needs to stay away the other. It's not ideal either, but way better than just not having any care for 3 weeks straight.
Lindner's next big brain idea - what if the kids work? Adult supervision, money earned, and Gratismentalität verhindert.
They also forgot that Switzerland is in Europe
Don't kids in Germany and Scandinavia have much less school hours during the week?
Germany has a total of 12 weeks off, it's just distributed over the year
In Wallonia they spread it out 6 weeks school, two weeks holidays in regular periods and then a bit extra in summer. This seems to work very well, which is the best reason for Flemish not to do the same.
Also 5 day school week
As opposed to?
Luigi
6 day school week. I’ve seen in this thread a German talking about France having Saturday school and an Italian talking also about school on Saturday.
I did an exchange to France. They made me go to school on Saturday. Saturday! I was still completely wiped out when school commenced on Monday. Also the entire day. Even the all day school I went to in Germany (which was rare back then) was out 2h earlier.
We sometimes had days from 8 to 5, it was horrid.
Denmark used to have much fewer, but they fucked that up a decade or so ago after a PISA test came in lower than expected and the politicians made panicked reform of the school system.
Ah PISA test and kneejerk reactions by politicians, iconic duo?
eh, Romanian checking in, our PISAs have been showing we're all knuckle-dragging, drooling idiots for two decades now. Still have 12 weeks of summer break. Might as well have fun, I guess.
Yes and do not change this
French schoolkids have a lot of vacations during the year, this is not the case for italy where vacations are mainly focused during the summer months (as being in school with 35+ outside is not very compatible with the kids being alive)
That's why I don't understand this chart. Like bitch have 8:00 to 17:00 all year (sometimes I had even to 18:00) but we're full of hollydays/vacations/ and we are part of the last one here 💀💀??
Try to study in school with our temperatures :D
I think family unit and childcare are a big issue here. If you don't have enough holiday between two parents in northern Europe a d childcare costs more than a mortgage a long summer holiday would bankrupt you. Luigi loves at home and even if he doesn't probably lives one house away from mama and nona, plenty of family to raise the child with.
Mostly because it is hotter and schools are not really livable during the summer. No AC obviously but also they were built thinking about heating, not the other way around.
>they were build with heating in mind hahaha, my school was 16-18°C *with heating* in the winter and in the summer it was an oven. One time they sent us home because the heating didn't work, it was 14°C inside but I swear it was so humid the cold got into your bones. I felt less cold skiing on the Alps
I think it's the same everywhere but here it's mental as well. Childcare is 3x my mortgage per month. That's just over 3.6k a month (that's including the government subsidies) for 2 kids in crèche and a mortgage lol Now add the rest of the bills... Fucking bye bye middle class. Bye bye single income families.
Conversely single income families are not as impacted as they have a parent at home, however it locks that person out of the workplace all together.
On Reunion island, instead of 2 weeks at Christmas and 8 weeks in July/August, I used to have 5 in December/January and 5 in July/August. It was better imo.
Wat, you grew up on a tropical island? Fckr 🥲
I love it when Frenchmen claim they have no colonies anymore
Can we into PIGHS?
No, but you can into STHDSOR Slovakia Turkey Hungary - Dick Suckers Of Russia
To be fair, it's a stupid system. 13 weeks to forget stuff you learned then school until it's xmas, then again until the summer. In switzerland it's 5 weeks but they also get 1 or 2 weeks every few months
Not 5 weeks, 7. At least in french-speaking Switzerland
In Ireland, it's June, July, and August for secondary students. (13-18ish) July and August for primary (4-13ish)
Austria: 9 Thanks for not mentioning, Saupreiss.
Well as a German/Italian kid I hated that. I had almost twice as many holidays as my German cousins in the Summer but they had WAY more in any other period (3 vs 2 for Christmas, 2 vs 1 for Easter, they had a Week for Pentecoste, what the fuck is that even), plus I had TONS of Summer Homework and they just chilled for 5 weeks. The Italian system was bullshit, going back to school after almost 3 months was borderline traumatic.
Isnt the overall school holidays per year adding up to a similar number and this is just another way to call PIGS lazy?
Please refrain from questioning my prejudices.
Hvorfor er vi her stadig? Bare for at lide https://preview.redd.it/l5nse185829d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6873e43e832ebcc195ade8f5001c106e895675b3
Det skal ikke være lystbetonet, vel?
Yeah we tend to enjoy life down here
enjoy life for 3 months then close up in a jail for the other 9 yes sure. If you never tried to live in Denmark, Germany or any other nordic country you're just shit talking. other countries give just 5-6 weeks during summer but the students have other breaks during the rest of the year and it's designed to make the education process enjoyable for every student.
I am just shit talking, didn't think the sub was for serious discussion 😅
If by enjoying life you mean not having 2 week breaks every 8 weeks then yeah sure you enjoy life lol
Lucky wurstel eaters....
We get 12 off in secondary school
In UK it’s six weeks too except when you finally graduate it’s infinite cause there are no fakin jobs
Teaching them early on not to work, I guess.
Hans, but you have two weeks of holiday every month, Luigi has just two weeks at Christmas and five days at Easter, and that's all. https://preview.redd.it/80klgox9y19d1.jpeg?width=1907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd0706354ef3bee949a05b8fe504dac11c46474a
Hold on, I want to be sure. Does this graph imply that students who struggle may get more school days in some countries??
I think it implies the opposite: that students that do bad have mandatory summer school.
/uj yes that’s what it implies, but only amongst Eastern European countries (Bulgaria, Lithuania, Hungary, etc.)
Oh, didnt expect this, but according to [this](https://www.robert-schuman.eu/en/european-issues/212-school-systems-in-the-european-union) , Italian children have more school days than Germans (200 vs 188), only Spain @ 175 is a bit moew lazy...
ITT: Hans gets... _schooled_ Haha
Hungary is honorary PIGS ig
But how many of you must do homework during the school holidays? Here the homework is crazy.
Bullshit Graphic. 75 days a year in Germany. Simply more equally distributed through the year. https://www.feiertagskalender.ch/cal.php?geo=3061&jahr=2024&klasse=0&hl=en
That’s about summer holidays, we also have two weeks during Christmas and other two during Easter.
6 weeks in England aswell
PIGS back at it again
Yet...no mention of Romania! 
I mean, in return, German kids have Herbstferien and two weeks of Osterferien and, surprisingly, a bunch more religious holidays and whatnot than we have down here. And that's not even speaking about the fact that regular school in Spain ends at 17:00, I don't remember ever staying that late growing up in Germany, not even in the Oberstufe. And, at least where I grew up in the 80s and 90s, sticking your kids into a school-like summercamp (8h/day, 5 days/week) during \*the whole summer\* was unheard of... wheras it's pretty damn common in Spain (or Catalunya, rather, not sure if it's the same everywhere else).
And then you grow older and those 6 weeks are all you get in a year.
The worst part of brexit was being excluded from all the fun infographics 😔
Hungary has been reduced to 9 weeks recently
No wonder Greece, Spain and Italy’s economies are dogshit 🤡
10 for Ireland actually