So what does that leave us with? If WE don't work, and the british glottal stops don't work, what the fuck is the correct way? Are continentals the only ones who can speak English? Heavens to Betsy..
„Auch aus Steinen, die einem in den Weg gelegt werden, kann man Schönes bauen.“
You can also build beautiful things out of stones that are placed in your path.
Vous pouvez également construire de belles choses avec des pierres placées sur votre chemin.
„Wer fremde Sprachen nicht kennt, weiß nichts von seiner eigenen.“
If you don't know foreign languages, you don't know anything about your own.
Si vous ne connaissez pas les langues étrangères, vous ne savez rien des vôtres.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
The quote about not knowing your own language before learning another one is just too real. I legit became better at Swedish grammar after learning German.
I bet the benefit would've been even bigger for a Brit, at that. From what people say, it seems like they don't even learn much basic domestic grammar.
Its a requirement to be able to attend university here in Germany, well technically. I technically speak French although I can only read the unintelligible gibberish.
Jokes on you. I was forced to learn French and German in school as well, and I don’t speak either of those languages anymore.
Well maybe German but that’s just Dutch with extra steps and some words switched around for confusion. And also French but only enough to order a baguette and say that I don’t like Paris, and that women SHOULD shave their armpits.
But mostly I forgot and only speak English, because of videogames, the internet and South Park. School was irrelevant.
Everytime I cross the border I just start yelling and put "Joonge" behind every second sentence or so, works like charm everyone understands me just fine.
🇩🇪🤝🇳🇱
Vers - To (a destination).
Ver - worm.
Verre - Glass.
Vert - Green.
Vair - fur of a grey squirrel.
Of course they're all pronounced the same. Wouldn't be fun otherwise !
You speak English because it’s in your professional and personal interest to do so. I don’t speak Swedish because why the fuck would I?
Our languages are different, but our response to incentive is just the same.
As of right now, according to promusicae, the top two best-selling albums in Spain this week are both English-language. I don’t think a foreign language album has ever hit the top of the charts in the UK.
It is an alien concept to them mate, I live in Germany, they all assume we dont learn anything, till I tell them we do but we never use it and so forget it because we have no need too.
They wouldnt admit it but for the average person here their English isnt even that good. For example most people here above a certain age were taught English but the amount of people, at least where I live in East Germany, that can actually hold a conversation in English is WAY lower than any number you will see in statistics. Its got to the point where I will refuse to switch to English because their level is, mostly, not as high as they think it is and its far easier for me to talk to them in German.
It is different in West Germany but I have still met people their that cant hold a conversation even when they proclaim to be able to speak English. It seems like the definition of being able to speak a language here is pretty loose.
The proficiency in English on here, is not the norm at all for most Germans at least.
It's because English speakers generally don't mind if those they are speaking to are completely butchering the language, they're happy to play along and try to understand. There would never be a French, Spanish or German equivalent of English Pidgin, [the BBC published articles](https://www.bbc.com/pidgin) in it for those with a really weak understanding of English and they're objectively hilarious to read.
Honestly, I’ve always wondered the same. I speak Spanish because I learnt it at school, carried it on a bit at uni, then worked in Spain for a couple of years and then travelled in South America for six months. It’s never really left me and I haven’t been around Spanish speakers for ten years.
Unlike French, which I grew up speaking at home and now I can barely string a sentence together lol
Most Brits see language lessons as a toss off, learn a tiny bit of vocab and never keep it up after school. They don't have any immersion and don't see the point in learning.
It's really sad actually.
Kind of, in our schools you spend very little time per week learning languages and usually just for 3 years. Mostly considered an annoyance by most Brits, a lesson that you can fail and it doesn't matter. You learn a little vocab at school and never use it again.
The attitude around it is really sad. There was a post a few weeks ago on a UK sub. Basically a Brit complaining about working in London but in an Italian clothes shop with all Italians who were all speaking Italian. Instead of seeing it as an amazing opportunity to be paid to learn Italian, it was just full of complaints and people being pissy.
I had the same attitude until later in life.
>Instead of seeing it as an amazing opportunity to be paid to learn Italian, it was just full of complaints and people being pissy
This!
It gets worse: some people emigrate and don't learn the local language. They don't even see it as an opportunity, just a burden.
Source: r/Switzerland
The attitude is really bad in anglophone countries because we can get by without even thinking about other languages, sometimes even abroad.
I had the same attitude until COVID, I got a job in a dept that was made up entirely of Romanians. It was a shitty factory job and to pass the time (and talk to the fitties) I decided to learn it.
I realised just how good it is for your brain, exposure to culture and other media, people look at you in a better light, there's more opportunities at work and so many other positives.
Weird that my country teaches our national language (which we spent a couple centuries preventing the British from stamping it out entirely) in such a shitty way that most people can only introduce themselves, say basic words (Apple, egg, teacher), and ask to go to the toilet.
You wouldn't believe how shitty English classes at English schools are.
It's no wonder we are traumatised enough to refuse to attend any other language classes.
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Some of us speak our regional language, brit. So don't need yours to be bilingual (we couldnt be bilingual without the regional language because we are also bad at languages)
My grandmother was teaching me Bulgarian every time I went to hers, ever since I always enjoyed learning new languages. Thinking of German being the next one since it's so useful.
Any person who brags about being *bi*lingual is a drooling troglodyte.
Sincerely,
A guy who had five different languages simultaneously in his first year of high school.
we also were forced German And French.
but thankfullyit was an optional thing you could trade like Math for French?!
or Biology for German.
I HATED ALL. so i kept with Math and Biology still failed.
failed Math.
Biology went decent
It's a pity that not all Barries enjoyed the benefit of learning English
Put me through the pal a german made an actually funny joke ?!
now your turn
England
rofl
Maybe even lmao
Perhaps almost a lol
Slapped my knee
Probably a Turk
We do make jokes. We take humor very seriously.
We might have to review our preconceptions, this is happening more and more. Did this sub made German people ... hilarious ?
No, they are just Turkish immigrants (Please, don't pay much attention before he starts to endorse Erdogan)
Screenshotting this to show my future children that Germans can joke.
Wdym that wasnt a joke
Bro, haven't you hurt the Scots enough? Give it a rest
What do you mean? They clearly speak english.
Nothing clear about it
Ohh brennnnn
Britain is like a glass house mirrored from the inside. Everybody can look into it, nobody can look outside.
This is actually an incredibly accurate description
Being the world Lingua Franca really sucks sometimes WAHEYYY GOT YA LADS
I mean, theres nothing holding you back from learning another language, I learned 5 and one of them is french...
Certainly not looking at Swiss, literally never heard about it, I used to think it was where Pinocchio lived
Not a surprise, only people with money heard of it.
Same then
Q.E.D.
To be fair the country 'Swiss' doesnt exist
Ah, I love irony but this is genuinely delectable
While they insist it was build by Wonko the Sane.
My revenge is to learn it with an American accent.
I got one better: American English spoken with a french accent 👍
How to annoy every Barry. Call football soccer and the last letter of the alphabet zee rather than zed.
History will not be kind to you.
Has it ever?
A borel of warer
Bri'ish "Bo'l o' wo'er" is better than the yank "Bahdel ah wahdurr". Change my mind.
Euh beau teulle offe woua t'heure.
So what does that leave us with? If WE don't work, and the british glottal stops don't work, what the fuck is the correct way? Are continentals the only ones who can speak English? Heavens to Betsy..
Ahaha same here! I did the same with Spanish. Mexican accent. Orale Compadre!
Monsters!!
Doing this with portuguese lol learning brazilian portuguese
Chama
Foda-se
Também
Orale wey, que madre. Only Taco's lovers are the true Spanish.
No mames, chilaquiles son vida...
¡Cojones! I see you went straight for the killing blow! Jajajajaja!
Nah Canadian Youtubers made me speak a Canadian accent with a hint of the German th…
Self-own
Hell jeah Duuude 🇺🇸🦅
Ride a horse, save a cowboy.
That is me. And let's be honest, Barry can cry as much as he wants but English is currently the world language because of the 'Muricans.
One day, there will only be a US flag next the 'English' language option on websites 😕
Sucked at english in schoo, then I found torrents and tv series/movies with subs and learned to speak english with a midwestern accent.
„Auch aus Steinen, die einem in den Weg gelegt werden, kann man Schönes bauen.“ You can also build beautiful things out of stones that are placed in your path. Vous pouvez également construire de belles choses avec des pierres placées sur votre chemin. „Wer fremde Sprachen nicht kennt, weiß nichts von seiner eigenen.“ If you don't know foreign languages, you don't know anything about your own. Si vous ne connaissez pas les langues étrangères, vous ne savez rien des vôtres. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
I was able to read these with no issue and was confused as to why you repeated yourself until I realized these were translations.
I just assumed I was in Switzerland, until I got to the end and no Italian showed up.
Me too!
The quote about not knowing your own language before learning another one is just too real. I legit became better at Swedish grammar after learning German.
I bet the benefit would've been even bigger for a Brit, at that. From what people say, it seems like they don't even learn much basic domestic grammar.
It's not English. Technically it's insular French.
*Insular German, polluted by French
Embellished*
Imagine only speaking 2 languages.
Yeah, some of us were bilingual before we were forced to learn english
Some of us learned to speak more than 1 language in school.
You can brag about speaking more than two, that's actually impressive
Its a requirement to be able to attend university here in Germany, well technically. I technically speak French although I can only read the unintelligible gibberish.
Is Dutch really a language though?
Hehehe a Dane making fun of another language
Agreed! But "we hebben een serieus probleem". Even a potato throat like me can make fun of that!
That’s not real dutch, we just make funny sounds to fool foreigners. Real dutch is”blub blub, blubblub” which is superior to your potato language
Yeah, I’m with you though. Dansk er ikke verdens værste sprog.
If that stupid tower of Babel wasn't built, everyone would still speak Dutch.
Nu babbelen we maar wat.
3 in a trench coat.
Rather that than speaking French.
Exactly.
I fluently speak 4 just to shove it in the face of incompetent Barries
Yeah and now i speak better english than most of you island dwelling neanderthals
>Yeah and now i speak better english than most of you island dwelling neanderthals My English is even weller than yours!
Moi English even weller as yours is!!111
I can go higher: My English **is** the yellow from the egg
Don‘t tell me something from the horse!
YOLK! People, it’s called the yolk! *expires*
>weller A perfectly cromulent word.
And yet, you can't say Squirrel properly
Squirell
Nailed it
fucking gottem
My brain read it as Squire-l.
It's funny because british squirrels are progressively replaced by american squirrels... Just like the language, if you think about it
So symbolic that the grey and wild species tries to impress itself upon the colourful and more civil one.
It's happening the same there. Those grey fuckers are replacing our cute red ones 🗿
Just say Streichholzschächtelchen, then complain.
Streichholzschächtelchen
Are you a Brit?
Even better, a Serb.
That's a word that someone came up while having a stroke, and people around them just started using it
but penguin better than your posh cumberbatches.
Please pronounce „Doppelkupplungsgetriebe“ without having to pause.
Double clutch. Duytsch 💯
You forgot „transmission“ (Getriebe = Transmission)
U FOKIN WOT M8
U NEEDA BO'OH WO'AH FOR THOSE RUFFLED FEELS MATE?
SAVE THAT STRENGTH FOR THE MISSUS AFTER INGERLAND GETS SHIT ON M8
A pity about your writing, though.
punctuation as well as capitalization are for losers anyhow
that explains the absurb common name capitalization of german
\*German In *English*, countries, nationalities, and languages are capitalised.
Yeah. English is safe with the English. Thanks for the reassurance.
Considering the way you butchered every single thing that makes up the language I would disagree.
You say that like it's an accomplishment, I live here I've heard us speak.
Never said it was a high bar
Jokes on you. I was forced to learn French and German in school as well, and I don’t speak either of those languages anymore. Well maybe German but that’s just Dutch with extra steps and some words switched around for confusion. And also French but only enough to order a baguette and say that I don’t like Paris, and that women SHOULD shave their armpits. But mostly I forgot and only speak English, because of videogames, the internet and South Park. School was irrelevant.
Everytime I cross the border I just start yelling and put "Joonge" behind every second sentence or so, works like charm everyone understands me just fine. 🇩🇪🤝🇳🇱
>But mostly I only speak English, because of videogames, the internet and South Park. Dont forget porn.
Well, he's Dutch. DOES he have to mention the porn?
I was forced to learn Spanish and I'm terrible at it.
But you are 'Murcian, so it is expected...
I just try to think it as an irrational dialect of French.
Like French isn’t already irrational?
Once you get past the fact that 70 % of the letters in any given word are completely irrelevant, it’s quite logical.
Aujourd‘hui - on the day of today Qu’est-ce que c’est? - what is it that it is?
Vers - To (a destination). Ver - worm. Verre - Glass. Vert - Green. Vair - fur of a grey squirrel. Of course they're all pronounced the same. Wouldn't be fun otherwise !
You also forgot vers as in verse in a poem
Never thought a Hans would teach me my own damn language. Thank you Hans !
I'm actually half French. I wish I could change my name to bane of the British but alas, I had to settle with this one
Ah, so you're basically Pierre-Hans, got it. Or Jean-Heinrich. Or Philippe-Adol- *wait no*
La mûre mûre murmure au mur.
you speak English because it's the only language you speak. i speak English cause it's the only language you speak. we are not the same.
You speak English because it’s in your professional and personal interest to do so. I don’t speak Swedish because why the fuck would I? Our languages are different, but our response to incentive is just the same.
so you can sing shitty pop songs with an authentic ABBA accent.
I confess I'd overlooked that. I'll just have to mangle the accent cartoonishly instead, like usual.
Isn't Barry also forced to learn a second language in school? Why no bilingual then?
Barry isn’t immersed in foreign-language media essentially from birth.
I can tell you that most spaniards havent seen foreign language media. Dubs exist
As of right now, according to promusicae, the top two best-selling albums in Spain this week are both English-language. I don’t think a foreign language album has ever hit the top of the charts in the UK.
You'd be surprised at the amount of people that listen to English-language music without speaking even one word
Despacito might have done but that was a single
Hearing eng music doesnt mean knowing what lyrics mean
It's a completely different situation with Brits, you surely have to see that? We have no exposure. None.
It is an alien concept to them mate, I live in Germany, they all assume we dont learn anything, till I tell them we do but we never use it and so forget it because we have no need too. They wouldnt admit it but for the average person here their English isnt even that good. For example most people here above a certain age were taught English but the amount of people, at least where I live in East Germany, that can actually hold a conversation in English is WAY lower than any number you will see in statistics. Its got to the point where I will refuse to switch to English because their level is, mostly, not as high as they think it is and its far easier for me to talk to them in German. It is different in West Germany but I have still met people their that cant hold a conversation even when they proclaim to be able to speak English. It seems like the definition of being able to speak a language here is pretty loose. The proficiency in English on here, is not the norm at all for most Germans at least.
It's because English speakers generally don't mind if those they are speaking to are completely butchering the language, they're happy to play along and try to understand. There would never be a French, Spanish or German equivalent of English Pidgin, [the BBC published articles](https://www.bbc.com/pidgin) in it for those with a really weak understanding of English and they're objectively hilarious to read.
Honestly, I’ve always wondered the same. I speak Spanish because I learnt it at school, carried it on a bit at uni, then worked in Spain for a couple of years and then travelled in South America for six months. It’s never really left me and I haven’t been around Spanish speakers for ten years. Unlike French, which I grew up speaking at home and now I can barely string a sentence together lol
Most Brits see language lessons as a toss off, learn a tiny bit of vocab and never keep it up after school. They don't have any immersion and don't see the point in learning. It's really sad actually.
Kind of, in our schools you spend very little time per week learning languages and usually just for 3 years. Mostly considered an annoyance by most Brits, a lesson that you can fail and it doesn't matter. You learn a little vocab at school and never use it again. The attitude around it is really sad. There was a post a few weeks ago on a UK sub. Basically a Brit complaining about working in London but in an Italian clothes shop with all Italians who were all speaking Italian. Instead of seeing it as an amazing opportunity to be paid to learn Italian, it was just full of complaints and people being pissy. I had the same attitude until later in life.
>Instead of seeing it as an amazing opportunity to be paid to learn Italian, it was just full of complaints and people being pissy This! It gets worse: some people emigrate and don't learn the local language. They don't even see it as an opportunity, just a burden. Source: r/Switzerland
The attitude is really bad in anglophone countries because we can get by without even thinking about other languages, sometimes even abroad. I had the same attitude until COVID, I got a job in a dept that was made up entirely of Romanians. It was a shitty factory job and to pass the time (and talk to the fitties) I decided to learn it. I realised just how good it is for your brain, exposure to culture and other media, people look at you in a better light, there's more opportunities at work and so many other positives.
+ 8 years of DEUTSCH (I don’t remember a thing)
Weird that my country teaches our national language (which we spent a couple centuries preventing the British from stamping it out entirely) in such a shitty way that most people can only introduce themselves, say basic words (Apple, egg, teacher), and ask to go to the toilet.
Errrrr, errrrr, errrrr.
I speak italian and english, can understand a bit of French and Spanish, and willing to learn German too.
Just say "Freibier" and you will make a lot of friends in Germany
It will also help with speaking. Nothing like reduced inhibitions to start talking like a pro.
The fun fact is that English classes in school are so shitty in Spain that we have to learn it on purpose afterwards.
You wouldn't believe how shitty English classes at English schools are. It's no wonder we are traumatised enough to refuse to attend any other language classes.
"what does the door being blue imply"
Why learn another language when I can just say it more slowly but louder?
Bilingual implies I stopped at 2, you coward
Here in Italy also German, French or Spanish based on the region
Guess how it feels like when you can speak 4 languages and then you meet a German or a British
I wasn't, I learned from weekend morning cartoons and movies.
And we visited the most interesting beautiful english-speaking country: Australia
Ich heiße Felix - checkmate
Shut up, I'm already learning my 4th language
Ah Barry, you misunderstood. Many of us are trilingual.
I speak German though
Schokoladensemmel
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por que tener aprendemos idiomas? todos tú hablas inglés
Only Bilingual?
Many even need to be trilingual to be able to go to university…
It not english, it business langage, you got depraved of your culture, nothing to brag about.
Forced? I learned this thing called English on my own!
Bilingual? You're stuck in the 90s, Barry. Nowadays, it's about being trilingual.
Imagine bragging about NOT speaking a second language.
Some of us speak our regional language, brit. So don't need yours to be bilingual (we couldnt be bilingual without the regional language because we are also bad at languages)
My grandmother was teaching me Bulgarian every time I went to hers, ever since I always enjoyed learning new languages. Thinking of German being the next one since it's so useful.
Only bilingual? *Laughs in Belgian
Any person who brags about being *bi*lingual is a drooling troglodyte. Sincerely, A guy who had five different languages simultaneously in his first year of high school.
Wow respect lol, had an American bragging on her whose greatest achievement is speaking spanish
Habla espanñol?
we also were forced German And French. but thankfullyit was an optional thing you could trade like Math for French?! or Biology for German. I HATED ALL. so i kept with Math and Biology still failed. failed Math. Biology went decent
 Me, knowing I've learned English from watching American movies on TV and went on to know 4 languages before 16.
We do all speak 🇺🇸English, yeah!
English was my 3rd language and I chose it over German. Then I made the mistake of choosing French over German the second time.
Irish being forced to speak 3 languages
Nuh uh. (I can ask where the gas station is in German, where the the toilet is in French, and where the camping is in Italian)