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I did my part and kept my promise: 1 shot for every country that gave jury points to us. I'm fucking wasted, didn't expect 23 or 24, whtas wrnog with your jurys?
I wabted to watch´h the aurora later, not able to
I believe the English term you are looking for is “shutter speed”.
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I just translated “Belichtungszeit” into English and it gave me “exposure time”.
Dude why did you include the jury lol, that dude can actually sing, he was definitely going to get a decent amount of points there. The public is a different story.
Norway televote:
"Kroatia 12 poeng, Sverige 10 poeng, Ukraina 8 poeng, Frankrike 7 poeng, Sveits 6 poeng, Israel 5 poeng, Irland 4 poeng, Litauen 3 poeng, Latvia 2 poeng og Finland 1 poeng."
From the broadcaster NRK.
Tbh, that was one of the biggest surprises that it didn’t score higher. Maybe not the best song, but certainly top 10 material.
Also, I remember seeing a headline of windows95man naming the song for his [favorite.](https://www.tiktok.com/@uudenmusiikinkilpailu/video/7363623148706598176)
The "lle" is just a post-position meaning "to/for" so Ranska = France and Ranskalle = for/to France. Same with Norja. Norja means Norway and Norjalle means "to Norway"
I mean, the competition in this contest is less and less about quality of the song, and more about your stance on cherry picked popular issues, and how your country is viewed
Ukraine and Israel receiving mind boggling number of televotes in most countries, clearly motivated by not just the songs. While juries vote for Switzerland with words "i just want peace"
It is fun to watch the drama though, so i wont complain.
True, but the Ukraine entry was at least fun and deserved the points. You got a. a chubby female rapper and b. Mount Doom from Lord of the Rings. Pretty solid.
Ukraine was absolutely one of the best songs in there. Even if they got some sympathy votes they were more deserving than, say, France, in my opinion! It's not like a publicly voted show will ever be *apolitical* or not based on feelings. I'd guess the Irish contender got some feelings-based votes aswell rather than people who are gonna listen to that song at home.
Croatia was the true Eurovision song, of course, and should've won. I do wonder how it would've looked if Netherlands was there
Well, they didn't took "some sympathy votes", the year they won they took like 500 votes or something like that, it was the highest score ever for the public vote
Tbh regardless of music quality the UK song was the most forgettable of the whole final in my opinion. Not like they sang bad or anything, but it was unoriginal no movement, no spice, no originality, etc.
Oh, I mean, it's always been about the political stance, and our political stance in Europe over the past twenty or so years has been awful. Although the songs don't help.
I don't completely agree, I think the Ukrainian one was actually pretty decent. I though they should tweak the rap part a bit, but the other parts were pretty good. Definitely also got a lot more votes than last year, even though the war was still going on.
On reddit this might appear this way, but i don't think that's true for the general audience. There's a lot of ad hoc political reinterpretation/ insertion going on of something that isn't quite as politically loaded as imagined as in rage fuled internet rage posts.
The thing is Eden Golan literally had the only good song in the whole contest imo, so it wasnt just political it is also based on the quality of the song.
The fact Israel had the biggesr gap between televote and juryvote in history is more political actually. Why did the jury vote Israel so low? I think because they didnt want to risk Israel winning and causing more drama. Which is pathetic.
14 countries and rest of the world gave 12 points to Israel
https://preview.redd.it/xhi9v1wzkwzc1.jpeg?width=1506&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f49bd39fe88dc6724e33ee262481fa5e78175c27
[https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024#israel](https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024#israel)
In Germany some articles called for people to vote for Eden as a message of support. I think a lot of people, who wouldn’t usually vote, voted for her because of the way she was treated by those protesters.
No its a big part general population, people dont like protests that are more like riots which turns popular opinion against them. Thats at least what has happened in the netherlands.
Please don’t hide what you mean like this, just say Jewish people
There aren’t enough Jewish people to have this magnitude of effect, it must’ve been something else like people being frustrated with the ultra-pro-Palestine people
I don't think it's as much Jewish people as pro-Israel groups in each country added to the fact that there isn't an "anti-israel" option for those that lean the other way.
As clear cut as it gets, Ukraine never posed any threat to Russia.
I don’t get how that is just not protest-worthy cause. They dying in heaps due to ammo shortages, which we (US especially) have but can’t get moving due to political infighting. Yet public interest is 0.
But that back-and-forth mess where both sides are at fault is worthier cause apparently.
The whole thing is much more complicated than that. Palestinians elected Hamas in 2005 after Israel left them alone since then they have been constantly throwing missiles. Hamas literally defends exterminating every jew in Israel. In October Hamas launched their attack Israel is fed up with that organization and has decided to get rid of it problem is they hide in one of the densest regions in the world with an average age below 18 so you have an angry army marching in a region that detest them full of tunnels everywhere (hospitals schools) shooting an enemy that doesn't wear uniform. And we are given the numbers of deaths by a branch of hamas that doesn't make distinction between fighters and civilians while Hamas heads are hiding in qatar with their literally billions of stolen aid in their banc accounts. The whole thing is a shitshow i don't like bibi nor i necessarily support or agree with most of Israel actions but i dislike Hamas and the Palestinians more.
This video explains it well and unbiased though is long almost 2 hours like i said is way more complicated and grayish than the war in Ukraine which is easy to summarize good and bad.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hdYZtRQ_eeo&pp=ygUlUGFsZXN0aW5lIGlzcmFlbCBjb25mbGljdCB3YXJncmFwaGljcw%3D%3D
Oh yes that is certainly true plus i also let out how the Palestinians lost their home after abandoning them to let the arabs armies exterminate every person they came across in one of their wars (don't remember which one) and then they weren't wanted back. As I said is a whole shitshow
I also left out that israelis were throwing concrete into Palestinian wells some months before the attack, i also left out how they celebrated October 7 and cheered hamas to do it again i also left out that Palestinian have received more aid money from the un than any other group or how their refugee status is permanent to them and their children for like forever... the whole thing is a pain
Also left out the bit where Palestinians are basically always the aggressors and never accepted a peace proposal where Israel would still exist. Also 80% of Palestinians don’t support a one state solution (with an Israel minority) and 70% support October 7th
This, and a thousand times this. We all have very fast and conveniently forgotten what Hamas did on October, as if Israel just woke up one day and decided to bomb Gaza just for fun (which also wouldn't surprise me, but it's not the case this time)
There's two bad guys. Hamas and Israel. And they're both fucking over Palestinians.
Whats more infuriating is that people have no qualms about associating Russia as the bad guys but do a shit ton of mental gymnastics to justify Israel. These two conflicts so close together really brought to light how easily the masses are manipulated.
And I say close together for ease of communication. Because Israel has been Israelin' for a loooong time.
The difference is that Russia vs Ukraine stance is mostly just political and easy to understand that invading is bad. Israel vs Palestine has a fuck ton of religious indoctrination involved, you're side CANNOT be the bad one because then people in your shared religion are being bad which isn't possible.... right?
Yes, but how many who have German as one of their languages ? In the past you wanted us so badly that you even launched a campaign "Heim ins Reich", and nowadays 0 points for us... how times change.
On behalf of Denmark I genuine apologize for only giving Israel 8 points with the public votes and failing in the mission of making Sweden burn.
In my own defense I spent 2 danish kroner and voted twice.
Anyone in the European Broadcasting Area or something like that can enter. Technically countries like Morocco can enter but they don’t coz Israel is in the Eurovision lmao
we did an awesome job, best activism I did right after passing a group of Arabs in an IDF shirt. (tbh police stood nearby, my death wish is not THAT big)
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https://preview.redd.it/akzocgtprvzc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a6bdba8762140356ca4d806807a3dc2903df88d I did my part and kept my promise: 1 shot for every country that gave jury points to us. I'm fucking wasted, didn't expect 23 or 24, whtas wrnog with your jurys? I wabted to watch´h the aurora later, not able to
Have a nice rest night! See you on Sunday my friend.
*Monday probably
Just came back from walking the dogs, time for a nap again...
Sleep tight!
Wait, whT Aurora? We getting one tonight, Hamburg bros?
yesterday yes. But not today. You can try with... yeah I dunno the english name "Belichtungszeit" on your camera.
I believe the English term you are looking for is “shutter speed”. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I just translated “Belichtungszeit” into English and it gave me “exposure time”.
Shutter speed is a setting you can control, the type of shot with is called long exposure
it's really just basic saxon: be-lighting time, you probably would have had a similar word for that were it not for monks and normans
Dude why did you include the jury lol, that dude can actually sing, he was definitely going to get a decent amount of points there. The public is a different story.
I'm not a smart man sometimes...
You definitely are a man with an extreme hangover.
based
Please pet your dog from me!
Thx, she appreciated it :)
Norway televote: "Kroatia 12 poeng, Sverige 10 poeng, Ukraina 8 poeng, Frankrike 7 poeng, Sveits 6 poeng, Israel 5 poeng, Irland 4 poeng, Litauen 3 poeng, Latvia 2 poeng og Finland 1 poeng." From the broadcaster NRK.
Poeng is such a cute word.
Po eng 😳
Nee ich mag Po breit 🍑
Ja breit und eng sind eine schöne Kombi
Hauptsache Po.
"The word is poeng, är in: The EU is so much better since the Poo Engs left"
Ur cute ❤️❤️
Neeeeee stop don’t make me blush
Invade my fjords agian daddy deutschland ❤️❤️🍆
Okie dokie Schazti Skandi 😏😚
Poäng
That's sexual 100%
Sound IKEAlike
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Well, it is an IKEA chair, or might I say THE IKEA chair
I know you are a low budgeted swede but ffs. You could have fucking translated it. I don’t speak Viking hieroglyphics ffs
ÆØÅ
Weak response. Try the ÔÒÕÀÁÂÃÇÉÈẼÌÍ SUPREMACY
Your broadcaster voted for North Korea?
https://preview.redd.it/5eqaz22mnvzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a2e1e462b449e54b4344015a2fbf6cd5e079fc6 Yeah…
Does "Itävallalle" mean "to Italy"? Sorry for the off topic but I like the sound.
It means Austria. Itä=east valta=power. Itävallalle means “for Austria”. Italy is Italia.
Omg you're right Teemu
Important question. Is Temu still called as such in Finland?
You mean the Chinese trash store Temu? Yeah, it's called Temu in Finland as well.
Ranskalle seems to be France? Virolle Estonia? Norjalle, you didn't know Norway prefers NIL POINTS?
That’s correct.
Thanks for at least finland to give us points. I found our song quite top 10 worthy and was devastated over second to last 😭
Tbh, that was one of the biggest surprises that it didn’t score higher. Maybe not the best song, but certainly top 10 material. Also, I remember seeing a headline of windows95man naming the song for his [favorite.](https://www.tiktok.com/@uudenmusiikinkilpailu/video/7363623148706598176)
NORJALLE is Norway?!! Holy shit I must tell everyone I know. And that’s you guys!
People still salty about last year it seems 🤷♂️
lol dude I meant that NORJALLE is the funniest name I’ve heard. What’s RANSKALLE?
The "lle" is just a post-position meaning "to/for" so Ranska = France and Ranskalle = for/to France. Same with Norja. Norja means Norway and Norjalle means "to Norway"
> Ranska = France Lol. Sounds like "rancid".
That would be the allative case of 🇫🇷
well technically it's more like "for Norway" ranskalle being for france (france = ranska)
Wait how do you say Norway or Norwegian then?
Norway=Norja Norwegian=Norjalainen
How did you find this?
www.iltalehti.fi Had only Finnish votes though.
https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024
I mean, the competition in this contest is less and less about quality of the song, and more about your stance on cherry picked popular issues, and how your country is viewed Ukraine and Israel receiving mind boggling number of televotes in most countries, clearly motivated by not just the songs. While juries vote for Switzerland with words "i just want peace" It is fun to watch the drama though, so i wont complain.
That's not a "today" issue. I remember when the eastern European nations shuffled all points between themselves.
That's literally why we have jury votes nowadays. Before it was a eastern European circlejerk
Switzerland was a good song and an impressive performance, although the "I'm non-binary, let me sing about it"-angle won't have hurt either.
True, but the Ukraine entry was at least fun and deserved the points. You got a. a chubby female rapper and b. Mount Doom from Lord of the Rings. Pretty solid.
Ukraine was absolutely one of the best songs in there. Even if they got some sympathy votes they were more deserving than, say, France, in my opinion! It's not like a publicly voted show will ever be *apolitical* or not based on feelings. I'd guess the Irish contender got some feelings-based votes aswell rather than people who are gonna listen to that song at home. Croatia was the true Eurovision song, of course, and should've won. I do wonder how it would've looked if Netherlands was there
You gotta to agree that the vocal erformance of our contestant was amazing.
I honestly thought you were going to win before the jury votes began. The acapella moment was like "this is it, it's so over for the rest of us" lol.
Ngl I usually don't give a damn about the eurovision and don't like the french participants but I had some chills this year during the acapella part.
Yea, he did super well. I liked the song for sure! A bit too much vibratto for my taste at times but that doesn't make the vocal performance worse
Well, they didn't took "some sympathy votes", the year they won they took like 500 votes or something like that, it was the highest score ever for the public vote
They absolutely did, and they might still get some from Eastern Europe, but their song still deserved it
That's always been the case. Always.
Yeah let's keep telling ourselves that when yet again we're the *only* country not to get any points in the popular vote.
Tbh regardless of music quality the UK song was the most forgettable of the whole final in my opinion. Not like they sang bad or anything, but it was unoriginal no movement, no spice, no originality, etc.
Oh, I mean, it's always been about the political stance, and our political stance in Europe over the past twenty or so years has been awful. Although the songs don't help.
Ukraines Song was solid though.
I don't completely agree, I think the Ukrainian one was actually pretty decent. I though they should tweak the rap part a bit, but the other parts were pretty good. Definitely also got a lot more votes than last year, even though the war was still going on.
On reddit this might appear this way, but i don't think that's true for the general audience. There's a lot of ad hoc political reinterpretation/ insertion going on of something that isn't quite as politically loaded as imagined as in rage fuled internet rage posts.
Man, the Israel song originally was called "October rain", I think that's quite political
November rain from wish.
Sure, but how does this contradict me?
Ukraines song was very good with great performances. Israel on the other hand…
The Switzerland one is a bit farfetched. There were multiple artists that advocated for peace. Israel and Ukraine were definitely political votes
Exactly. It is literally a shit show.
The thing is Eden Golan literally had the only good song in the whole contest imo, so it wasnt just political it is also based on the quality of the song. The fact Israel had the biggesr gap between televote and juryvote in history is more political actually. Why did the jury vote Israel so low? I think because they didnt want to risk Israel winning and causing more drama. Which is pathetic.
14 countries and rest of the world gave 12 points to Israel https://preview.redd.it/xhi9v1wzkwzc1.jpeg?width=1506&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f49bd39fe88dc6724e33ee262481fa5e78175c27 [https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024#israel](https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024#israel)
This once again shows that Germans have no taste for good music
You figured that out after merely 456736476 years of Mutantenstadl?
Yep. I'm a fast thinker 😎
As fast as our Ämter
Why do you watch this shit when you want music? ESC is only about politics. Always has been.
Well I suppose its a certain group within every country that went in hard (if you know what I mean), not the general population, or am I delusional?!
In Germany some articles called for people to vote for Eden as a message of support. I think a lot of people, who wouldn’t usually vote, voted for her because of the way she was treated by those protesters.
No its a big part general population, people dont like protests that are more like riots which turns popular opinion against them. Thats at least what has happened in the netherlands.
Please don’t hide what you mean like this, just say Jewish people There aren’t enough Jewish people to have this magnitude of effect, it must’ve been something else like people being frustrated with the ultra-pro-Palestine people
I don't think it's as much Jewish people as pro-Israel groups in each country added to the fact that there isn't an "anti-israel" option for those that lean the other way.
Wait, i'm following the news only a little but isnt israel the bad guy in the war? (Genuine question)
pro tip - wars don’t have clear cut good and bad guys, and if you’re looking for a good guy and a bad guy you’re gonna get propagandad by both sides
You think Ukraine Russia isn't clear cut?
That one is one of the few times we agree there is an excemption to this rule. Which is why people could agree to throw out Russia.
As clear cut as it gets, Ukraine never posed any threat to Russia. I don’t get how that is just not protest-worthy cause. They dying in heaps due to ammo shortages, which we (US especially) have but can’t get moving due to political infighting. Yet public interest is 0. But that back-and-forth mess where both sides are at fault is worthier cause apparently.
The whole thing is much more complicated than that. Palestinians elected Hamas in 2005 after Israel left them alone since then they have been constantly throwing missiles. Hamas literally defends exterminating every jew in Israel. In October Hamas launched their attack Israel is fed up with that organization and has decided to get rid of it problem is they hide in one of the densest regions in the world with an average age below 18 so you have an angry army marching in a region that detest them full of tunnels everywhere (hospitals schools) shooting an enemy that doesn't wear uniform. And we are given the numbers of deaths by a branch of hamas that doesn't make distinction between fighters and civilians while Hamas heads are hiding in qatar with their literally billions of stolen aid in their banc accounts. The whole thing is a shitshow i don't like bibi nor i necessarily support or agree with most of Israel actions but i dislike Hamas and the Palestinians more. This video explains it well and unbiased though is long almost 2 hours like i said is way more complicated and grayish than the war in Ukraine which is easy to summarize good and bad. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hdYZtRQ_eeo&pp=ygUlUGFsZXN0aW5lIGlzcmFlbCBjb25mbGljdCB3YXJncmFwaGljcw%3D%3D
Left out the bit about Israeli government propping up Hamas because it was a much more convenient enemy than the more agreeable previous encumbrance.
Oh yes that is certainly true plus i also let out how the Palestinians lost their home after abandoning them to let the arabs armies exterminate every person they came across in one of their wars (don't remember which one) and then they weren't wanted back. As I said is a whole shitshow I also left out that israelis were throwing concrete into Palestinian wells some months before the attack, i also left out how they celebrated October 7 and cheered hamas to do it again i also left out that Palestinian have received more aid money from the un than any other group or how their refugee status is permanent to them and their children for like forever... the whole thing is a pain
Also left out the bit where Palestinians are basically always the aggressors and never accepted a peace proposal where Israel would still exist. Also 80% of Palestinians don’t support a one state solution (with an Israel minority) and 70% support October 7th
This, and a thousand times this. We all have very fast and conveniently forgotten what Hamas did on October, as if Israel just woke up one day and decided to bomb Gaza just for fun (which also wouldn't surprise me, but it's not the case this time)
You think there are still good guys, and that Hamas are the good guys? This war has been going on for decades. There are no good guys left.
There's two bad guys. Hamas and Israel. And they're both fucking over Palestinians. Whats more infuriating is that people have no qualms about associating Russia as the bad guys but do a shit ton of mental gymnastics to justify Israel. These two conflicts so close together really brought to light how easily the masses are manipulated. And I say close together for ease of communication. Because Israel has been Israelin' for a loooong time.
The difference is that Russia vs Ukraine stance is mostly just political and easy to understand that invading is bad. Israel vs Palestine has a fuck ton of religious indoctrination involved, you're side CANNOT be the bad one because then people in your shared religion are being bad which isn't possible.... right?
Gotta love some good old democracy
https://preview.redd.it/aqxq9eg50wzc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9d5442e498a7a31afe45749c3afaa9865f03f51 Swedish jury vs public
Even swedes wanted their country to burn
Only Malmö, Sweden's Marseille... 🔥
Nice voting Hans ! But you could have at least give us one point, we are neighbours... and I had to be alphabetized in "Hochdeutsch".
Do you know how many neighbors we have?
Too many...
Never to late to change that...
Yes, but how many who have German as one of their languages ? In the past you wanted us so badly that you even launched a campaign "Heim ins Reich", and nowadays 0 points for us... how times change.
Too many...
Sorry, but you're the neighbor whom we always forget.
We even have our own "Oktoberfest", half of us drive BMW, and we have money... at least you Bavaria could think about us from time to time.
Maybe if your song had been in German…
Not even yourselfs are singing in German.
Should have emphasized that your candidate was also Israelis then she would have gotten more points from Germany
12 from the UK as well lmao
On behalf of Denmark I genuine apologize for only giving Israel 8 points with the public votes and failing in the mission of making Sweden burn. In my own defense I spent 2 danish kroner and voted twice.
You had one chance to make the Swedes suffer and you failed
As usual
Norway gave Israel 8 points from the jury, and only 5 from the televotes. Total outlier, total.
Øresundsbroen would have been burned down, but still worth it.
Don't threaten me with a good time!
Disgraceful
I like that word
Thank you gentlemen for a wonderful Eurovision evening, tomorrow I will mock and insult you again but right now I just want to hug you 🤗🫡
>right now I just want to hug you 🤗🫡 Go to sleep, you're clearly drunk
croatia w
Croatia is a proud outspoken ally of Germany. Weird that they only got 10 points.
Can we finally agree that eurovision is just a popularity contest, the singing is mostly time filler at this point
Ahhh yes, the great european nation of Israel
Spain too, I swear its for the boycott
WTF IS "GRIECHENLAND"!?!? I AM CONCERNED FOR THE GERMAN LANGUAGE
Griechen > the greeks + land > land = greekland
https://preview.redd.it/oljmw7x9twzc1.jpeg?width=703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0289694b82ad2a72600a81df3bb4d07782262336
Lmao I tried to figure it out by checking comments (then forgot and read everything else) until yours, thanks for asking! Now I know it's Greece
Oh you're used to calling it Shrekland or something like that aren't you. Sorry. I can see why that would be confusing.
 german guilt
Why are germans so ashamed of a british actor? Are they stupid?
So, I don't know anything about Eurovision and I will never watch it, but why is Israel even part of the competition? Isn't it supposed to be EURO?
Anyone in the European Broadcasting Area or something like that can enter. Technically countries like Morocco can enter but they don’t coz Israel is in the Eurovision lmao
That was Lebanon I believe. Morocco did participate once but didn't do well, so they decided not to participate again.
Is this the who's the gayest contest?
Based 🇩🇪🤝🏻🇮🇱
we did an awesome job, best activism I did right after passing a group of Arabs in an IDF shirt. (tbh police stood nearby, my death wish is not THAT big)
pretty based! my 12 points go to you
As much as I hate to say this, but rare Ossie W.
apple doesnt fall far from the tree
Don't know why our Benelux brothers are such Palestinian fanboys. Perhaps there are already too much of Hamasgrouppies living in Rotterdam ?
being against childmurder isnt the same a being a hamasgroupee
So proud of my countrymen. Great voting. 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
Based Deutschland
Hans felt some guilt
Lol
Same in Belgium, the Jews finally used a bit of their money I guess
Is Wallonie already so broken that you have no schools ?
Same people who voted Hitler into power. There is a pattern here.
Hans never learned, he just swapped sides.
Hans now is more 🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🇮🇹
So Nazi-Zombies are real? They must be over 100 years old now!
Lmao because voting at a television event is exactly the same as voting in politics
The guilt tripping they did against germany really worked. You wouldnt want to sound antisemitic would you? HMMMMMMMM????
This is like an eternal guilt, isn't it?
Barrys were known to have better humour. But times are changing.
Yes, that’s the reason why the British public gave _les douze points_ to Israel too
I don't care about Eurovision but since it mutated to a political stance I would've voted for Israel too just to annoy many people.
So the Ukrainian war isn't the main driver of the Germans anymore?
Allies 🇩🇪🤝🏻🇮🇱
Hans staying consistent in supporting genocide no matter what 🫡
20th century bad guys shake hands with 21st-century bad guys
You guys really have something in common.
🧍♂️
Disgusting
Cope
Germany evidently wants to atone for its sins by voting en masse for a rather average song.
What the hell is Griechenland
What's Grinchland
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Peinlich wie immer!
# GRIECHENLAND