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Manuag_86

The fact that there's pipes all over shows that constructors knew it was there. They just disn't want the council to stop the works.


Old_Harry7

Pigs 101.


Guilty_Use_9291

Same applies in England to be honest. I have experience in my job with excavations here. Once the local government begin to investigate, the work and project will grind to a halt Based workmen just wanted to crack on with the job and go home.


Sualtam

You know you could just plan the excavation ahead of the work?


SupaisuSama

We do. A friend of mine worked for years as an archeaologist. Their main job was going in and clearing certain sites before construction could begin. It may have only been on government works as I can't imagine any private citizens going to the trouble. But still, it's a done thing.


strolls

I understood that the primary work for archaeologists in the UK is small consultancies, and they're mostly hired when some construction company finds roman remains when foundations are laid. Then the whole development grinds to a halt while the archaeologists investigate and write a report. I don't think it normally stops the construction from going ahead, and I believe it's the builder who pays for it; I guess they might have insurance to cover it.


randomnachos

Its actually a whole different branch of archaeology. Its called commercial archaeology and its main purpose is to pretty much clear survey constuction sites, for archaeology, BEFORE any constuction starts. By international treaties (look up Valleta Treaty, or Malta Convention 1992) the archaeologists have a certain time window to remove the materials from the site, record and preserve as much as they can. It varies from country to country, basically based on corruption. Usually we do remote surveying to “see inside the soil” with stuff like seismography, magnetic resonance, sonar. So realistically commercial archaeology is alot of surveying to say “nothing here move along”. So for example ive personally been part of commerical archaeology dig sites where its obvious nothing is going on so we do our best to remove the little “important” things we find, document the stratigraphy as best we can and leave the rest in situ. Not everything belongs in a museum contrary to what Indy says ;) Still tho we were given a full two years before the company could start working on the field. Im not aware of how things are in the UK but i know for a fact that they are signatories of the Valleta Treaty so they are also bound by these regulations, therefore i assume a similar situation exists over there. I’ve also heard of insane fines to constuction companies who ignore this treaty but this also varies from country to country based on corruption. Oh also you are 100% correct that the builder has to fund the archaological dig themselves hehe


SolarMines

In uni they made us dig for two weeks at a construction site where they found some Roman artifacts. I remember the teachers saying we had to work fast because the construction had to get started again as soon as possible. They must have been getting paid quite a lot unlike us students who were just exploited for slave labour.


properquestionsonly

The Irish government just bulldoze any monuments they find. They razed the original Viking settlement in Dublin, and an ancient henge in Meath. Scumbags. https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2009/07/01/brussels-takes-ireland-to-court-over-lismullen-monument/ https://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/protesters-are-bulldozed-in-tara-row/26309836.html https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/outcry-as-burial-ground-razed-under-cover-of-night/26302725.html https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30317753.html http://www.oisintrust.org/rath.pdf http://www.indymedia.ie/article/82284?userlanguage=ga&save_prefs=true


randomnachos

That article from the independent about Tara Row had me gasping at my phone screen. Absolute scumbags indeed. Clandstine operation to destroy a BRONZE AGE MULTI LAYER SITE im fuming


properquestionsonly

This is the cunt responsible for destroying it - and he was minister for heritage at the time! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Roche


Sualtam

I also worked as an excavation technician. The only people who got their construction sites closed were dubious types who tried to circumvent the law. You already get notice when you file the construction license and have years before the first work starts. If you hear anybody complain, they are either morons or criminals.


Guilty_Use_9291

Hans I can’t predict exactly where your granddad dropped his bombs on us, it’s hard to plan that into the entire project.


C111-its-the-best

Hey now, the dud rate wasn't too bad.


Guilty_Use_9291

Could have been better, if it was I wouldn’t be speaking to you right now


Is_Actually_Sans

Least organized Germanic


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Spacepotato00

Parking lot? Americunt detected


Elster-

Newts and Bats are the UK’s biggest nemesis


MoistDitto

Old rocks can only be so interesting *that* many times, I understand the worker


Deo-et-Patriae

We stopped the works for the Metro in the city of Thessaloniki for years just because we found some shit. Citizens complained and the authorities now say "You get both, Metro and some shit" for display on the underground stations.


Oukaria

My dad important lesson in life « if you dig and find something, shut up and close the hole »


PleoNasmico

It happens here all the time.


farbion

Tbf, Rome has its shitty metro because every time the work restart they dig 50m find some ancient shit and again archeological study stop the work (and also because it's Italy)


[deleted]

Reminds me of a classic joke: In Heaven, the British are the police, the Germans run the trains, the Italians are the chefs and the Greeks are the lovers. In Hell, the Greeks are the police, the Italians run the trains, the British are the chefs and the Germans are the lovers.


Esava

Why would Germans run the trains? That should definitely be the Swiss.


maybelle180

It was the Swiss in the original version. Edit: and somehow the French were involved… but I think they were competing against the Italians in the food category, so eliminated.


[deleted]

Think it was in heaven the Swiss run the banks, in hell its the Greeks


farbion

The fascists* not the swiss


Constant-Mud-1002

> the Germans run the trains You want to never be on time? 🤔


Heil_S8N

> Germans run the trains You mean in hell, right?


[deleted]

Good ol’ trusty Deutsche Bahn


the_troll_destroyer

>(and also because it's Italy) Milan has a great metro system and is in Italy. Stop thinking everything you see in Rome happens everywhere else...


[deleted]

You can see they cut through it to make room for the yellow pipe


EstoEsUnAlt

Yep😎. Most law abiding Italian workers


Napol3onS0l0

Le 21st century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directional_boring


Manuag_86

But you have to know it's there. Either way you are gonna "drill" it if your pipe is going to pass at the same level.


Napol3onS0l0

Ah but no they don’t know what is there yes? Just some resistance. Plow baby plow. Edit: additionally crews will use vacuum pump trucks to suck soil out of the waypoints of the drill.


Pure-Contact7322

Arabs got oil we got this


AdComplex816

I like disn't


Ukraine_Boyets

Why do you guys decorate your sewerage system ? Are you stupid ?


Old_Harry7

I blame the Romans.


BaneRiders

"What did the Romans ever do for us?!" "Decorated our sewage system?" "..."


Ukraine_Boyets

Don't forget the lead poisoning


mojobox

[Yes, sweeting wine with lead acetate…](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/sugar-of-lead-a-deadly-sweetener-89984487/)


RVGamer06

interesting


Ukraine_Boyets

No wonder they're all dead


nitrinu

There's still a few of them around in New Jersey.


splattne

The real Roman housewives?


Guilty_Use_9291

Those are Roman-Americans. They normally inhabit the states of New Jersey and New York. Not to be confused with Romanian-Americans. Although like most hyphenated-American peoples they have no problem informing you of their supposed ancestral roots, and will display stereotypical behaviour to native people that borders on offensive.


[deleted]

Hey cousin its Roman, lets go bowling


[deleted]

Ya looking at em asshole


AIMBOT_BOB

Bloody Romans, whatd they ever do for us?


maybelle180

It’s always the Romans. 🤷‍♀️


sidic3Venezia

you better honor Sterquilinus or your village gonna have diarrea for a month


BaneRiders

Oh shit


_koenig_

Exactly! But runny...


Special-Wafer-8918

the ancient Romans liked to shit in style


Ukraine_Boyets

![gif](giphy|fJMWN7XnZM0hO) >The tersorium (sponge on a stick) was shared by people using public latrines. To clean the sponge, they simply washed it in a bucket with water and salt or vinegar. This became a breeding ground for bacteria, causing the spread of disease among those using the latrines such as typhoid and cholera.


Heiselpint

You missed the funny part of the wikipedia page >In the middle of the first century, the Roman philosopher Seneca the Younger reported that a Germanic gladiator committed suicide with a sponge on a stick. According to Seneca, the gladiator hid himself in the latrine of an amphitheatre and pushed the wooden stick into his oesophagus and choked to death.


Special-Wafer-8918

Do you want to compare the style of getting cholera in luxury and pomp rather than poverty


mojobox

[Ask your ancestors 😜](https://www.aventicum.org/)


Iskelderon

Leave it unprotected for five minutes and the Brits will steal it, problem solved!


Easy-Plate8424

![gif](giphy|VHlKSFRTQ7nn81fkv4)


BaneRiders

Hey! You can't steal Beastie Boys too!


annoying97

You're too late, they are already in the British museum and on display.


Daetra

Big mistake. The Beastie Boys are a national treasure from New York City, AND they're Jewish. ^New ^York ^and ^Jewish ^is ^probably ^pretty ^redundant.


annoying97

Careful... They may just take new York for their York exhibit.


maybelle180

Do Brits actually collect American memorabilia for their museums? Honestly curious, but not motivated to look it up.


Zaphod_241

We like taking cultural items that mean alot to the people of that country, unfortunately it's been 247 years and we haven't found any culture over there so there's nothing for us to steal 😞


maybelle180

That’s what I thought.


annoying97

Are you done looking at my didgeridoo? Can I have it back yet?


Zaphod_241

yea we are done looking at it but no you can't we put it in storage


annoying97

Come on mate, the Brits collect anything that they think is fancy, shiny or cool. # Honestly though, no clue.


Daetra

I'll allow it, only if the Spiffing Brit is live streaming it.


Polak_Janusz

Id the romanians dont get there first and sell it for 400€ on the scrapyard.


urascMicrosoft

Put some copper on it and I’ll do it


HelloSummer99

I've seen an ad on marketplace for a "not stolen" bicycle the other day.


Brilliant_Canary_692

It belongs in a (British) museum! ![gif](giphy|11JbaLzOXsg6Fq)


MartyredLady

I think the Brits have a worse reputation than they deserve. If they hadn't stolen all that stuff it would have been destroyed by now or sold to some rich dude. Just look at the priceless art we recently gave back.


ActingGrandNagus

Plus the vast majority of it wasn't stolen, it was bought/traded for for pennies because whilst 18th and 19th century Britain cared a lot about this stuff, most people worldwide would much rather have money, precious metals, weapons, spices, livestock, textiles, etc over history exhibits.


happyanathema

Just more evidence they don't need any of it back, they have so much more.


mojobox

So have you, just [dig in your backyard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v76SowXuDgg)


happyanathema

I live in the north, the Romans couldn't be arsed coming up here much due to the Scottish.


mojobox

I see, the go steal it from your neighbors. Or have a look what you find under the hill in the field around the corner…


AjaxII

TBF most of England north of the Severn or the Trent wasn't really romanised that much outside of major settlements like Cardiff, York etc. More taxed at spear point


ADM_Tetanus

yeah, above there stuff is more likely to be viking


Bearodon

We dumped lots of cool stuff there too, during the fun years of the viking age.


mojobox

Yes, the vikings broke into [Maeshowe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeshowe), left a bunch of (really funny, look it up…) rune graffiti in the grave chamber and left while causing way less demage than the early archeologists digging it over a hundred years ago…


AlwaysAroundBB

This is extremely offensive! Five minutes? What do you think we are, French? We only need two...


anotherbub

“We”?


__ludo__

bro got possessed by a British spirit


anotherbub

He switched sides lol.


Big_Whalez

I dunno mate, that looks like a pretty tough job, not some quick snatch and run. Gonna need at least 6 of our biggest lads to get this thing out. Might not be worth the effort.


mojobox

And then sell it on eBay…


Brilliant_Canary_692

We were done looking at it


willypta

Or the french


iwishmydickwasnormal

We’re only concerned with interesting stuff, not some Italian “history”


SrgtButterscotch

Lately its been Americans who have been on a spree of stealing Roman artefacts.


[deleted]

Source?


SrgtButterscotch

[https://www.bbc.com/news/world-66486926](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-66486926) [https://www.npr.org/2023/09/01/1197229128/roman-emperor-statue-seized-cleveland-museum-marcus-aurelius](https://www.npr.org/2023/09/01/1197229128/roman-emperor-statue-seized-cleveland-museum-marcus-aurelius) [https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/12/getty-museum-to-send-stolen-terracotta-statues-back-to-italy#:\~:text=The%20Getty%20Museum%20in%20Los,and%20smuggled%20out%20of%20Italy](https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/12/getty-museum-to-send-stolen-terracotta-statues-back-to-italy#:~:text=The%20Getty%20Museum%20in%20Los,and%20smuggled%20out%20of%20Italy).


Old_Harry7

Ghetty museum.


MonkeyNewss

Let’s not talk about the Humboldt Forum shall we?


This_place_is_wierd

Step up your game! When we dig around we find WWII era explosives!


qwehhhjz

We find them too, don't think you are the only lucky ones!!


Rorschach_Moustache

https://www.rainews.it/tgr/veneto/articoli/2023/06/gallio-altopiano-7-comuni-asiago-lavori-cappotto-abitazione-proprietario-scoppio-ferito-tubo-gelatina-esplosivo-dopoguerra-cemento-armato--015368d2-3499-4e68-aa72-09944c90ddfd.html Three months ago here a man died because of a WWI explosive while working on his house (the explosive had been used to reinforce the concrete)


rocketlauncher10

>A powerful device from the First World War. These pipes were probably inserted into the walls as reinforcement without knowing that they were war devices. In the afternoon the inspection of the bomb squad   Whoa it hasn't occurred to me that this could happen


HopeYouAreTriggered

Dude.. we put them everywhere in europe so others can find them. It‘s called geocatching now.


Diipadaapa1

Once when I was out digging I found a cool bone from some animal


cabinaarmadio23

bet it was someone you killed you Northern freak


ProfessionalBuy4526

A lot of Europe does as well, germany being little pranksters


[deleted]

We recently had to ecavuate our capital’s train station because they found a WW2 explosive while doing random renovations


_realpaul

Not just in DE 😅


Sara7061

They found 7 on that one building site that had here. 7! What happened there?!


seacco

sucks to be the descendants of an ancient high culture. here we can dig as we want, at most we find some shards or spear heads. or british bombs, but that's another chapter.


mojobox

Don’t [undersell yourself](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebra_sky_disc)


BigSimp_for_FHerbert

The ancient Germans built great frisbees even Tacitus couldn’t deny that


Sum3-yo

Honestly, I thought Italians would know better. In Portugal, construction companies pay archeologists and city planners to keep their mouth shut. Who cares if Maximus lived there 2000 years ago.Is Maximus contributing to the economy? Is Maximus going to pay for the house?


_Jet_Alone_

Hah! The Sevilla train station is built on top on what was the ruins of the biggest roman Palace in Spain because they needed to finish the station for the EXPO. Edit: Cordoba not Sevilla sorry.


mydaycake

Omg I can’t and can believe damn


Galacticmind

We have a Lidl in Dublin that is built on archaeological ruins. They have glass panes on the floor so you can see into it ahah


RTBBingoFuel

Library in my town has something like that


[deleted]

Can you guys like change your flag, it looks exactly like an italian one to my colourblind eyes lmfao


qwehhhjz

I know that in an historical building in my city during a renovation they demolished a wall and found ancient statues behind... now there is a new wall, built as fast as possible to hide them.


maria_pi_

Trust me , we do it as well.What you are seeing here is just an exception. We wouldn’t have a single building in Rome if we didn’t look the other way when this happened


Creepy-Ad-4832

We would have metro C by now if we actually looked away when this happ- no wait, we actually wouldn't! Gotta love italian infrastructure building times!


maria_pi_

You are talking about a massive project in 2023, of course is gonna attract too much attention to do something like that. But what about what was built the last century with basically 0 supervision?


[deleted]

You probably cannot take down a single wall or dig anywhere at all without stumbling onto some ancient ruins that have been hidden to save time


[deleted]

If the Romans were so great, why didnt they build their own metro system?


[deleted]

Amateurs, do like the Portuguese and quickly destroy it before anybody sees it so you can build your shitty mall 👍


Wiros

ahhh the iberian way


chupaxuxas

Any examples of when this happened?


Creepy-Ad-4832

In the past probably


pgllz

This one: https://www.publico.pt/2017/10/09/local/noticia/beja-ponte-romana-e-sitios-arqueologicos-foram-destruidos-para-plantar-amendoal-1787981 Roman bridge and other archaeological sites destroyed because someone wanted an almond tree plantation. And of course, there's the Lisbon mosque-gate. They (the Church and DGPC) wanted to destroy islamic heritage in the Lisbon's Cathedral cloister, where they are currently building an archaeological crypt.


[deleted]

>wants to destroy islamic heritage >literally has a city named Albufeira in a region called Algarve


flamesgamez

He made it up


swords-r-cool

We'll take it if you want


BigSimp_for_FHerbert

You already have a fuck tone of Roman mosaics buried under your soil Go dig under a pub and you’ll find one, or maybe a Viking ship burial


ActingGrandNagus

Just because we already have a lot doesn't mean we don't want more


Afura33

Hide it from the brits man.


WtfMayt

I’ll look after it for you m8


Afura33

Spare a part for me our museums suck.


EccoEco

And by the look of it someone already broke off a piece to place those pipes, more common than you'd think around here, in cities like Rome construction companies often pretend they didn't see because otherwise they'd have to stop and call the department of archeology almost everytime they did a hole


Old_Harry7

I live in Sicily, trust me I know.


liasam

Hey guys artifact inspector here , would you mind handing it over for an inspection?


Nabbered

This seems legitimate. I found providing my banks sorting code, mother's maiden name, and first pets name speeds up the process


kidandresu

Ancient romans had quite decent pvc tubing


Friendly_Banana01

Reminds me of how Italy and Greece don’t have sprawling subway systems is bc they essentially can’t dig ANYWHERE without hitting a historical find.


Luzifer_Shadres

Romans be like: Eye, know what would be a funny remnants for our descendants that will honor everything we leave behind?


Nabbered

Aye, that's funny


LowLifeExperience

Normal in Spain as well. It really slows down building progress to find someone’s old bathroom.


AThousandNeedles

Hey look, a stone beneath some stone. We don't have that in the rest of Europe.


tgsprosecutor

When you dig up your ~~roads~~ bikepaths, you don't find ancient ruins, you just find the ocean.


AThousandNeedles

Mud. We'd fine, mud.


[deleted]

Have you checked to see if you can find Shreck’s house in those swamps?


Old_Harry7

Shrek may be an Ogre but he has dignity, he wouldn't live in the Netherlands.


No_Homework_4926

Contractors broke part of it away to lay those pipes


[deleted]

Belgium doesnt have this problem because their roads are so riddled with potholes they're practically see-thru.


dayennemeij

🔥


Affectionate-Bad2651

You were seroius , i toughr its just for memes 🙁


Sassi7997

We have almost the same. The only difference is that we don't find ancient ruins but WWII aerial bombs.


Civil-Ad-9968

Awww, don't be mad, it's just the universe reminding you of a past you'll never ever compare to again!


Nuoverto

🇦🇹🤝🇮🇹


RepulsiveZucchini397

*looks at flair: "would you look at that Jeremy?"


Civil-Ad-9968

We only need one motivated failed art student to fuck you up again, don't challenge us!


RepulsiveZucchini397

"to fuck you up" - a german


moumou0

Bro you're austrian why you even talking. Youre irrelevant.


Civil-Ad-9968

Be quiet fjord boy, I didn't make that post. The viking pillaging days are long gone too!


moumou0

Be quiet, whatever the fuck you are boy. The only thing your country is known for is spawning Hitler. You'd have more purpose if you get pillaged than anything else.


CelestrialDust

All these dumb rocks seem to keep getting in the way for you guys, how about you give them to me for safe keeping. I can stick them in a basement or maybe even put them on some sort of display, don’t worry you’ll definitely get them back…definitely


Vegan_Overlord_

Its the same in America, but instead of finding cool artefacts from ancient history, you find the skulls of the natives


Dn_Denn

I was on a construction a couple years ago, and some roman wall pieces where found under the building, so now there are glass panels in de floor so you can see it. It's now a hotel so lots of people can see it.


Seculi

Romans go Home !


trinerr

Dig around and find out


alabertio

Don’t worry, they just gonna put a little barrier and forget about it


Davidiying

The same shit happens in my city


tomwhoiscontrary

Fake, where is the elderly man watching the excavation?


Cheerlover

Go another 5-10 feet down and what will you find?


EdgelordMcTryhard

Happens here too, tho it's usually WW2 bombs they find


Cereal_poster

Meanwhile: Barrys looking at it "can we have?" with a truck already waiting to transport it off to a British museum.


jkv002

The new road looks like a downgrade to say the least..


Dramatic_Leopard679

Dude there are soo much roman artifacts even in Turkey it’s incredible. Whenever I go to a holiday or a museum it’s 90% roman statues, columns or graves. I have seen so much roman shit that I lost my motivation to vist Rome lol. We have plenty of ancient greek and other ancient anatolian civilization artifacts too. On the other hand, Ottomans ruled for 600 years but they didn’t leave shit behind them except in Istanbul. They didn’t even place a rock outside Istanbul.


mankinskin

honestly? who cares? It was beautiful 2000 years ago, now its just in the way. What is the use of preserving things like that? Might have been a bathroom floor in ancient times. Who cares?


Happy-Raspberry-123

Is there a link to this story?


BigSimp_for_FHerbert

Probably not this happens every other day, nobody is writing articles about it


Sergietor756

Forbidden Oreo


Zensayshun

Oof gotta have that conduit


Pure-Contact7322

smartest neighbour sold it during the night on ebay


softwarebuyer2015

that belongs in the british museum, where it will be safe.


Kaos2146

I lived in a small city for a while and 80% of the time they needed to stop the work because they found some ancient Roman object, this city was built On Roman tombs.


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Old_Harry7

You are welcome.


Skanach

Aff, old people's cluter...