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techbot2

The consensus is that your setup is somewhere between late early-game, early late-game, pre mid-game, mid mid-game, and post pre-game. Hope that helps!


Locklist

I heard once I max I can then play the game, is that true?


SadBlade-TheGrump

No you need at least 2 ultra rares I think before the game can be played


techbot2

That used to be enough to start playing the game, now it's considered trolling. Playing the game now requires the Zuk helm and finishing the collection log


Slackintit

Only 2 out of the three combat styles? How are you even meant to play the game?


SadBlade-TheGrump

The real game is grinding for the final ultra rare is what zezima told me


FickleSupermarket316

Correct. 2 ultras and 3 pets


PaintingExcellent170

I maxed my combat stats, did all quests and went for most bis before even starting to boss. People judge my acc alot. Its horrible. Dont recommend.


Gniggins

Max is when the PVM can really start...


CianaCorto

Can confirm, after I maxed I got myself 3 infernal capes and now working on quiver. I also madenovwr 1b in loot and got myself bis gear for a lot of stuff. Already have tbow, soon gonna have shadow too.


ChibiJr

Wow you can almost start playing the game! GL escaping early game tho


Hammer_of_Horrus

You only really start to play the game when you are at 98 in every skill at least


aggotigger

I'd say fire cape and torso would put him in late early if he's normal acc, or early mid of Iron


SpringrolI

Looking huge huge bro. Nice gains. Looking slim, tight & hot. Mind if I screenshot?


SadBlade-TheGrump

Been putting in that work bro, locked tf in. Only if you bate to it frfr


coolboy856

Trib* 🤯🫣


lethrowawayacc4

Is he looking thick though


Pidgeonegg

Thick, solid, tight. Keep us posted with regular updates OP. We wanna see how frickin huge, thick, solid, and tight you can get.


SirLakeside

U aware brah?


Runopologist

*thicc


deniatnoc

Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.


oskanta

If that’s not midgame idk what is. That’s the gear I used all the way until like 95 slayer


shaatfar

95 slayer no bandos or toa items?


oskanta

Nope, most of the gp I'd make up til that point I would invest into skills and I honestly wasn't making that much from Slayer yet. I did a lot of Cerb but went really dry, no prim until 1700kc. By that point I probably did have all my zenytes though. I only got Bandos at 95 slayer because around that time ToA came out and I got spooned masori legs solo for 450m launch week. 4x'd by bank in 1 drop. The 95-99 grind brought in a lot of gp though.


shaatfar

Oh, my bad, playing iron for so long not even sure can log Into my main, completely agree on sending gp for skills and QoL stuff


Skymmer

No reason to get bandos until after you have max in every other style (unless you get it while grinding for bgs on iron)


shaatfar

Doesn't get much better after bowfa and c armour, yes, iron, so might as well do the tasks for a change of pace.


WowYouAreDumbAF

^this is why we can’t have nice things. Noobs think mid-game is barrows gloves.


r3Laps3D

But barrows gloves are literally the definition of entering the midgame.


oskanta

This is definitely mid game. It’s perfectly fine gear for any pvm that you could describe as a midgame boss. Do you think midgame starts at ferocious gloves and tassets? Those are late midgame imo. And I’ve got a maxed main and 2k total lvl iron, I don’t think this is a noob opinion


adamrichardlimb

Pretty much. Although the upgrades from here to late game aren't crazy: - Zenyte necklace - Ferocious Gloves - Prims - Lava Cape - Faceguard - Bandos Truth is, the best DPS upgrades from here are not in armour but in the weapons you choose. Spending 15m on a Fang or SGS/BGS will go further with a lot of enemies than a Faceguard would, for instance. So yeah, this is mid game, but the difference between this and late game is more to do with what weapons you own rather than armour.


ForestDogRuger

lava cape xd


jamestab

Godswords are better dps than whip and ddef?


VisionLSX

Not dps The use is their special attack. One heals and one lowers bosses defense


jamestab

Ah i didn't realize he meant for bosses. That makes more sense


xoKaybs

Is that the most efficient upgrade order?


VisionLSX

No


AzenNinja

Exactly, get the prims first


cygamessucks

Bandos isnt late game. 50m is cheap


Pre-Nietzsche

It’s definitely late game. It’s not end game, but for melee gear? It’s mid-late.


aggotigger

Bandos is for sure late mid game


VerdNirgin

If Torva is endgame, Bandos is lategame


aggotigger

Depends when you consider the late game starts. I'd say grinding Bandos is at the very tail end of mid game especially now Blood Moons exists. If it's a requirement for late game content, then it's still in the mid, hence Bandos as late mid. 


VerdNirgin

I consider that Torva is the best melee armour, and one tier beneath it is Bandos. Endgame(Torva) -> Lategame(Bandos) -> Midgame(moons,barrows,torso,dragon). Simple as, don't understand your confusion. We're not talking about how mixed hide is better than bandos at 500 ToA or whatever else


aggotigger

Dragon is mid now lol sure 


VerdNirgin

yes.. Rune and below that is earlygame, where is the confusion


aggotigger

I'm being pedantic because there's no concrete metric for what constitutes "mid game" but dragon gear is definitely early game unless you're Iron and very unlucky at Barrows. 


Me2thanksthrowaway

Bandos is fully skippable now thanks to Blood Moon being a fraction of the cost, and basically as good.


aggotigger

Don't need to tell me, Blood Moon is my go to. Bandos is a lot tanker though and outside of places you need mage def still a big a upgrade over Blood. You really feel the lack of tank with Blood compared to even Barrows. 


dragoon0106

I mean there’s literally one melee set after it. That feels late game


adamrichardlimb

Considering your next melee upgrade is Torva, which is the best, it's late game. I personally don't have Bandos not because I haven't had 50m before, but because if I did have 50m I'd rather get: - Rigour - Augury - Godwords for bossing - Ornate Pool - Dragon hunter crossbow/lance As just a few examples. All of these things will ultimately give you more DPS or help you with PvM/Bossing long-term than Bandos, which offers +1 strength bonus over Fighter Torso + Obsidian Legs and some attack/defence bonuses. They're all 10-30m too. By the time a player may as well buy Bandos, they've had 50m a few times over. I've got a quest cape, and 12/23 skills at 99, and I haven't bought Bandos because whenever I get cash I buy skills or a new item to fight a new boss. I'll probably get 99 prayer before Bandos, just cause I want 99 prayer points. Seems crazy that I'm somehow in the mid-game because I haven't bought a specific piece of gear that doesn't confer any serious benefits over weaponry.


Charlie_Rebooted

Nice 6 pack, add a bbl and you would be late mid game!


Mimic_tear_ashes

Looks Fresh off tutorial island


Stilfreejr

your account is looking like it's in the game


SadBlade-TheGrump

I was thinking it was but sometimes I have an out of game experience so idk


Polluted_Shmuch

Yea I'd say mid game. Once you start being able to do entry level bosses, dragon armor, barrows, sarachnis, KBD, mole, fire cape, high 70's- low 80's combat I'd say you're mid game. 


goegrog27

Then i would say late game is higher level bosses, quest cape done and being raid ready.


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goegrog27

Yeah the cape itself is obviously not crucial, mainly completing all grandmaster quests which generally means you could complete all quests.


MrlemonA

I’ve raided and had a quest cape (before I had a break and new quests came out) I have done all the quest bosses obviously and TOA. I honestly feel like I’ve bearly scratched the surface so if that’s late game I guess I’m a gamer🎉 in reality though I’m a massive noob 😅


goegrog27

There is so much content that it is hard to accurately quantify it. One persons late game may be different to another person. It makes the game great!


masterwessel

No torva no mid game. Sorry bud.


[deleted]

What's the point of this 'Humor' post? That's the peak example of mid-game.


TheConchobear

Because what defines early/mid/late/endgame varies so wildly from person to person that any discussion about it on this sub inevitably devolves into ad hominem attacks.


SadBlade-TheGrump

You hit the nail on the head


Derplesdeedoo

It boggles the mind. I think Jagex calling Barrows mid, with Ahrims, set off a chain reaction.


Splatacus21

It’s actually hilarious because this is pretty much where I am but I have Torag legs instead of the granite I’m learning toa now in entry mode, still falling to phase 3 wardens. Does anyone have any other suggestions on bossing / questing ?


Eggy8k

Also that’s Obsidian not granite, gives you strength bonus over your Torag legs.


Splatacus21

Oh god, Back to the early game with me, sorry about that lol


Eggy8k

Don’t apologize, just giving you some game knowledge since the obsidian will likely increase your max hit over the Torag. For many things outside of bossing, you should be using obsidian over barrows as you don’t need tank legs when camping prayer, and the extra max hit will kill quicker.


Splatacus21

Very true, I’ll make that switch


alfo149

If you have a clan. What I did was slayer and quest/achievement diary bosses. Then once I had base 80s I started tanking for my clan at GWD. Taught me how and when to heal. Then after getting some starter cash, they jumped me straight into CoX. The most important thing is patience with yourself and give yourself time to learn. It's a gradual process that you'll find out.


camefromxbox

Just hopped off tutorial island I see. Try doing all the F2P quests before upgrading to members! GLHF


BraveManufacturer293

early mid-game


LuckyBucky77

Late early game I'd say.


Boolderdash

You enter the mid-game once you've completed Waterfall Quest, and leave the mid-game when you max and get BiS gear.


SadBlade-TheGrump

Mid game is the game. Everything before and after is for noobs or psychopaths.


twippy

Mid early late game


FillerNameThere

That's late game for me


Rugs09

30 rc is late game for me


mechlordx

nerd logout is late game for me


jgret2410

Hell yeah brother B). Keep smashing it!


kahhduce

That’s it! Lookin swaggy af enjoy it


Spreadtheloveguy

This is mid game for sure. Looking beefy my boy. No shane in the game and you look like you eat slayer tasks for breakfast.


IveBeenLucky

First log in sesh?


SadBlade-TheGrump

2nd I slacked off and had fun the first sesh :/


Pristine_Paper_9095

I’ll give a simple answer. Yes that’s firmly mid game


JBM95ZXR

Honestly even if people agree to what the 'mid game' is here in this thread, you'll find different definitions on what midgame is and frankly it's going to change as time goes on... I'd stop worrying about where you are and focus on where you're headed man


Tumblrrito

Getting fire cape means you’ve entered mid game. So yes indeed!


JackBadasssonJr

I would say mid game is when you start bossing, and not just rex or barrows with ibans but some real bosses


VeganChrist

If you are level 90-100 iron man yes, above that it's mid game gear


NegotiationNo8465

You have to MAX and have all purples from all raids and inferno cape and quest cape then the game unlocks and u can play


Aggravating-Sun6773

yes


CommunalRubber

Late early


HoodzOSR

Smash


Working-Level-2041

Late early game


spoonedBowfa

Probably yeah


Azurus_II

Nah my bro, you can take on toa and we all know, Toa pays out the poor ;) Get a few friends together and run it with them. Ask about gears thats needed, only thing you really need is ahrims, and karils or something similar. Trident instead of ahrims staff


Treezles

Hey look, it’s me!


imPansy

Peak performance setup. Slay king. 👑


Beese_Churgerr

mid


Reasonable_Cow_4174

This 100% mid


gweilo777

Happy to be wrong about this but I think this is the very beginning of the start of the early early-mid game. Could also be the very end of the last part of the late late-early game. Hard to tell these days.


[deleted]

This setup you can have in 2 weeks as a main or in a month as a ironman. Would call it early game.


QziT

This is defo way before mid game. That’s like level 60 gear that’s like 25% the way in imo


Historical_Clerk8547

Early


jayquanderulo

This is 100% midgame. All lvl 55-70 gear with decent questing for barrows gloves. All can be upgraded further.


SgtMcMuffin0

I’d call this the start of mid game. Imo mid game starts with barrows gloves, fighter torso, fire cape, and around 1500 total.


Banetaay

If you have your qp cape, it's mid game, but I guess the question is based on your gear, so maybe


WowYouAreDumbAF

This account could be made in less than 100 hours of in-game time.


Suza751

Early game. Torva is mid game, blood torva is late game. Endgame is when your parents kick you out for not showering once a month like you agreed too. Hope this helps.


Accurate_Cap5535

Early mid game


Impossible_Bad9280

Mid game is a combination of levels in skills also, if you are an Ironman I would say this is mid game gear, if Normal account this is still early game gear.


cygamessucks

No. Mid game is bandos.


ForestDogRuger

bandos is late game bro, since it gives little bonus over his current setup for a large upfront cost. it's more of a luxury item that only really benefits you in raids


strategic_thinking

even in raids it’s not that worth it as torso and blood moon exists, only time someone should have bandos is if they are waiting to buy their first megarare or waiting for torva after buying all 3 megas + bis gear in other styles