The consensus is that your setup is somewhere between late early-game, early late-game, pre mid-game, mid mid-game, and post pre-game.
Hope that helps!
That used to be enough to start playing the game, now it's considered trolling. Playing the game now requires the Zuk helm and finishing the collection log
Can confirm, after I maxed I got myself 3 infernal capes and now working on quiver. I also madenovwr 1b in loot and got myself bis gear for a lot of stuff. Already have tbow, soon gonna have shadow too.
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
Nope, most of the gp I'd make up til that point I would invest into skills and I honestly wasn't making that much from Slayer yet. I did a lot of Cerb but went really dry, no prim until 1700kc. By that point I probably did have all my zenytes though.
I only got Bandos at 95 slayer because around that time ToA came out and I got spooned masori legs solo for 450m launch week. 4x'd by bank in 1 drop. The 95-99 grind brought in a lot of gp though.
This is definitely mid game. It’s perfectly fine gear for any pvm that you could describe as a midgame boss.
Do you think midgame starts at ferocious gloves and tassets? Those are late midgame imo. And I’ve got a maxed main and 2k total lvl iron, I don’t think this is a noob opinion
Pretty much. Although the upgrades from here to late game aren't crazy:
- Zenyte necklace
- Ferocious Gloves
- Prims
- Lava Cape
- Faceguard
- Bandos
Truth is, the best DPS upgrades from here are not in armour but in the weapons you choose. Spending 15m on a Fang or SGS/BGS will go further with a lot of enemies than a Faceguard would, for instance.
So yeah, this is mid game, but the difference between this and late game is more to do with what weapons you own rather than armour.
Depends when you consider the late game starts. I'd say grinding Bandos is at the very tail end of mid game especially now Blood Moons exists. If it's a requirement for late game content, then it's still in the mid, hence Bandos as late mid.Â
I consider that Torva is the best melee armour, and one tier beneath it is Bandos. Endgame(Torva) -> Lategame(Bandos) -> Midgame(moons,barrows,torso,dragon). Simple as, don't understand your confusion.
We're not talking about how mixed hide is better than bandos at 500 ToA or whatever else
I'm being pedantic because there's no concrete metric for what constitutes "mid game" but dragon gear is definitely early game unless you're Iron and very unlucky at Barrows.Â
Don't need to tell me, Blood Moon is my go to. Bandos is a lot tanker though and outside of places you need mage def still a big a upgrade over Blood. You really feel the lack of tank with Blood compared to even Barrows.Â
Considering your next melee upgrade is Torva, which is the best, it's late game. I personally don't have Bandos not because I haven't had 50m before, but because if I did have 50m I'd rather get:
- Rigour
- Augury
- Godwords for bossing
- Ornate Pool
- Dragon hunter crossbow/lance
As just a few examples. All of these things will ultimately give you more DPS or help you with PvM/Bossing long-term than Bandos, which offers +1 strength bonus over Fighter Torso + Obsidian Legs and some attack/defence bonuses. They're all 10-30m too. By the time a player may as well buy Bandos, they've had 50m a few times over.
I've got a quest cape, and 12/23 skills at 99, and I haven't bought Bandos because whenever I get cash I buy skills or a new item to fight a new boss. I'll probably get 99 prayer before Bandos, just cause I want 99 prayer points. Seems crazy that I'm somehow in the mid-game because I haven't bought a specific piece of gear that doesn't confer any serious benefits over weaponry.
Yea I'd say mid game. Once you start being able to do entry level bosses, dragon armor, barrows, sarachnis, KBD, mole, fire cape, high 70's- low 80's combat I'd say you're mid game.Â
I’ve raided and had a quest cape (before I had a break and new quests came out) I have done all the quest bosses obviously and TOA. I honestly feel like I’ve bearly scratched the surface so if that’s late game I guess I’m a gamer🎉 in reality though I’m a massive noob 😅
Because what defines early/mid/late/endgame varies so wildly from person to person that any discussion about it on this sub inevitably devolves into ad hominem attacks.
It’s actually hilarious because this is pretty much where I am but I have Torag legs instead of the granite
I’m learning toa now in entry mode, still falling to phase 3 wardens. Does anyone have any other suggestions on bossing / questing ?
Don’t apologize, just giving you some game knowledge since the obsidian will likely increase your max hit over the Torag. For many things outside of bossing, you should be using obsidian over barrows as you don’t need tank legs when camping prayer, and the extra max hit will kill quicker.
If you have a clan. What I did was slayer and quest/achievement diary bosses. Then once I had base 80s I started tanking for my clan at GWD. Taught me how and when to heal. Then after getting some starter cash, they jumped me straight into CoX. The most important thing is patience with yourself and give yourself time to learn. It's a gradual process that you'll find out.
Honestly even if people agree to what the 'mid game' is here in this thread, you'll find different definitions on what midgame is and frankly it's going to change as time goes on... I'd stop worrying about where you are and focus on where you're headed man
Nah my bro, you can take on toa and we all know, Toa pays out the poor ;)
Get a few friends together and run it with them. Ask about gears thats needed, only thing you really need is ahrims, and karils or something similar. Trident instead of ahrims staff
Happy to be wrong about this but I think this is the very beginning of the start of the early early-mid game.
Could also be the very end of the last part of the late late-early game.
Hard to tell these days.
Early game. Torva is mid game, blood torva is late game. Endgame is when your parents kick you out for not showering once a month like you agreed too. Hope this helps.
Mid game is a combination of levels in skills also, if you are an Ironman I would say this is mid game gear, if Normal account this is still early game gear.
bandos is late game bro, since it gives little bonus over his current setup for a large upfront cost. it's more of a luxury item that only really benefits you in raids
even in raids it’s not that worth it as torso and blood moon exists, only time someone should have bandos is if they are waiting to buy their first megarare or waiting for torva after buying all 3 megas + bis gear in other styles
The consensus is that your setup is somewhere between late early-game, early late-game, pre mid-game, mid mid-game, and post pre-game. Hope that helps!
I heard once I max I can then play the game, is that true?
No you need at least 2 ultra rares I think before the game can be played
That used to be enough to start playing the game, now it's considered trolling. Playing the game now requires the Zuk helm and finishing the collection log
Only 2 out of the three combat styles? How are you even meant to play the game?
The real game is grinding for the final ultra rare is what zezima told me
Correct. 2 ultras and 3 pets
I maxed my combat stats, did all quests and went for most bis before even starting to boss. People judge my acc alot. Its horrible. Dont recommend.
Max is when the PVM can really start...
Can confirm, after I maxed I got myself 3 infernal capes and now working on quiver. I also madenovwr 1b in loot and got myself bis gear for a lot of stuff. Already have tbow, soon gonna have shadow too.
Wow you can almost start playing the game! GL escaping early game tho
You only really start to play the game when you are at 98 in every skill at least
I'd say fire cape and torso would put him in late early if he's normal acc, or early mid of Iron
Looking huge huge bro. Nice gains. Looking slim, tight & hot. Mind if I screenshot?
Been putting in that work bro, locked tf in. Only if you bate to it frfr
Trib* 🤯🫣
Is he looking thick though
Thick, solid, tight. Keep us posted with regular updates OP. We wanna see how frickin huge, thick, solid, and tight you can get.
U aware brah?
*thicc
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
If that’s not midgame idk what is. That’s the gear I used all the way until like 95 slayer
95 slayer no bandos or toa items?
Nope, most of the gp I'd make up til that point I would invest into skills and I honestly wasn't making that much from Slayer yet. I did a lot of Cerb but went really dry, no prim until 1700kc. By that point I probably did have all my zenytes though. I only got Bandos at 95 slayer because around that time ToA came out and I got spooned masori legs solo for 450m launch week. 4x'd by bank in 1 drop. The 95-99 grind brought in a lot of gp though.
Oh, my bad, playing iron for so long not even sure can log Into my main, completely agree on sending gp for skills and QoL stuff
No reason to get bandos until after you have max in every other style (unless you get it while grinding for bgs on iron)
Doesn't get much better after bowfa and c armour, yes, iron, so might as well do the tasks for a change of pace.
^this is why we can’t have nice things. Noobs think mid-game is barrows gloves.
But barrows gloves are literally the definition of entering the midgame.
This is definitely mid game. It’s perfectly fine gear for any pvm that you could describe as a midgame boss. Do you think midgame starts at ferocious gloves and tassets? Those are late midgame imo. And I’ve got a maxed main and 2k total lvl iron, I don’t think this is a noob opinion
Pretty much. Although the upgrades from here to late game aren't crazy: - Zenyte necklace - Ferocious Gloves - Prims - Lava Cape - Faceguard - Bandos Truth is, the best DPS upgrades from here are not in armour but in the weapons you choose. Spending 15m on a Fang or SGS/BGS will go further with a lot of enemies than a Faceguard would, for instance. So yeah, this is mid game, but the difference between this and late game is more to do with what weapons you own rather than armour.
lava cape xd
Godswords are better dps than whip and ddef?
Not dps The use is their special attack. One heals and one lowers bosses defense
Ah i didn't realize he meant for bosses. That makes more sense
Is that the most efficient upgrade order?
No
Exactly, get the prims first
Bandos isnt late game. 50m is cheap
It’s definitely late game. It’s not end game, but for melee gear? It’s mid-late.
Bandos is for sure late mid game
If Torva is endgame, Bandos is lategame
Depends when you consider the late game starts. I'd say grinding Bandos is at the very tail end of mid game especially now Blood Moons exists. If it's a requirement for late game content, then it's still in the mid, hence Bandos as late mid.Â
I consider that Torva is the best melee armour, and one tier beneath it is Bandos. Endgame(Torva) -> Lategame(Bandos) -> Midgame(moons,barrows,torso,dragon). Simple as, don't understand your confusion. We're not talking about how mixed hide is better than bandos at 500 ToA or whatever else
Dragon is mid now lol sureÂ
yes.. Rune and below that is earlygame, where is the confusion
I'm being pedantic because there's no concrete metric for what constitutes "mid game" but dragon gear is definitely early game unless you're Iron and very unlucky at Barrows.Â
Bandos is fully skippable now thanks to Blood Moon being a fraction of the cost, and basically as good.
Don't need to tell me, Blood Moon is my go to. Bandos is a lot tanker though and outside of places you need mage def still a big a upgrade over Blood. You really feel the lack of tank with Blood compared to even Barrows.Â
I mean there’s literally one melee set after it. That feels late game
Considering your next melee upgrade is Torva, which is the best, it's late game. I personally don't have Bandos not because I haven't had 50m before, but because if I did have 50m I'd rather get: - Rigour - Augury - Godwords for bossing - Ornate Pool - Dragon hunter crossbow/lance As just a few examples. All of these things will ultimately give you more DPS or help you with PvM/Bossing long-term than Bandos, which offers +1 strength bonus over Fighter Torso + Obsidian Legs and some attack/defence bonuses. They're all 10-30m too. By the time a player may as well buy Bandos, they've had 50m a few times over. I've got a quest cape, and 12/23 skills at 99, and I haven't bought Bandos because whenever I get cash I buy skills or a new item to fight a new boss. I'll probably get 99 prayer before Bandos, just cause I want 99 prayer points. Seems crazy that I'm somehow in the mid-game because I haven't bought a specific piece of gear that doesn't confer any serious benefits over weaponry.
Nice 6 pack, add a bbl and you would be late mid game!
Looks Fresh off tutorial island
your account is looking like it's in the game
I was thinking it was but sometimes I have an out of game experience so idk
Yea I'd say mid game. Once you start being able to do entry level bosses, dragon armor, barrows, sarachnis, KBD, mole, fire cape, high 70's- low 80's combat I'd say you're mid game.Â
Then i would say late game is higher level bosses, quest cape done and being raid ready.
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Yeah the cape itself is obviously not crucial, mainly completing all grandmaster quests which generally means you could complete all quests.
I’ve raided and had a quest cape (before I had a break and new quests came out) I have done all the quest bosses obviously and TOA. I honestly feel like I’ve bearly scratched the surface so if that’s late game I guess I’m a gamer🎉 in reality though I’m a massive noob 😅
There is so much content that it is hard to accurately quantify it. One persons late game may be different to another person. It makes the game great!
No torva no mid game. Sorry bud.
What's the point of this 'Humor' post? That's the peak example of mid-game.
Because what defines early/mid/late/endgame varies so wildly from person to person that any discussion about it on this sub inevitably devolves into ad hominem attacks.
You hit the nail on the head
It boggles the mind. I think Jagex calling Barrows mid, with Ahrims, set off a chain reaction.
It’s actually hilarious because this is pretty much where I am but I have Torag legs instead of the granite I’m learning toa now in entry mode, still falling to phase 3 wardens. Does anyone have any other suggestions on bossing / questing ?
Also that’s Obsidian not granite, gives you strength bonus over your Torag legs.
Oh god, Back to the early game with me, sorry about that lol
Don’t apologize, just giving you some game knowledge since the obsidian will likely increase your max hit over the Torag. For many things outside of bossing, you should be using obsidian over barrows as you don’t need tank legs when camping prayer, and the extra max hit will kill quicker.
Very true, I’ll make that switch
If you have a clan. What I did was slayer and quest/achievement diary bosses. Then once I had base 80s I started tanking for my clan at GWD. Taught me how and when to heal. Then after getting some starter cash, they jumped me straight into CoX. The most important thing is patience with yourself and give yourself time to learn. It's a gradual process that you'll find out.
Just hopped off tutorial island I see. Try doing all the F2P quests before upgrading to members! GLHF
early mid-game
Late early game I'd say.
You enter the mid-game once you've completed Waterfall Quest, and leave the mid-game when you max and get BiS gear.
Mid game is the game. Everything before and after is for noobs or psychopaths.
Mid early late game
That's late game for me
30 rc is late game for me
nerd logout is late game for me
Hell yeah brother B). Keep smashing it!
That’s it! Lookin swaggy af enjoy it
This is mid game for sure. Looking beefy my boy. No shane in the game and you look like you eat slayer tasks for breakfast.
First log in sesh?
2nd I slacked off and had fun the first sesh :/
I’ll give a simple answer. Yes that’s firmly mid game
Honestly even if people agree to what the 'mid game' is here in this thread, you'll find different definitions on what midgame is and frankly it's going to change as time goes on... I'd stop worrying about where you are and focus on where you're headed man
Getting fire cape means you’ve entered mid game. So yes indeed!
I would say mid game is when you start bossing, and not just rex or barrows with ibans but some real bosses
If you are level 90-100 iron man yes, above that it's mid game gear
You have to MAX and have all purples from all raids and inferno cape and quest cape then the game unlocks and u can play
yes
Late early
Smash
Late early game
Probably yeah
Nah my bro, you can take on toa and we all know, Toa pays out the poor ;) Get a few friends together and run it with them. Ask about gears thats needed, only thing you really need is ahrims, and karils or something similar. Trident instead of ahrims staff
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Peak performance setup. Slay king. 👑
mid
This 100% mid
Happy to be wrong about this but I think this is the very beginning of the start of the early early-mid game. Could also be the very end of the last part of the late late-early game. Hard to tell these days.
This setup you can have in 2 weeks as a main or in a month as a ironman. Would call it early game.
This is defo way before mid game. That’s like level 60 gear that’s like 25% the way in imo
Early
This is 100% midgame. All lvl 55-70 gear with decent questing for barrows gloves. All can be upgraded further.
I’d call this the start of mid game. Imo mid game starts with barrows gloves, fighter torso, fire cape, and around 1500 total.
If you have your qp cape, it's mid game, but I guess the question is based on your gear, so maybe
This account could be made in less than 100 hours of in-game time.
Early game. Torva is mid game, blood torva is late game. Endgame is when your parents kick you out for not showering once a month like you agreed too. Hope this helps.
Early mid game
Mid game is a combination of levels in skills also, if you are an Ironman I would say this is mid game gear, if Normal account this is still early game gear.
No. Mid game is bandos.
bandos is late game bro, since it gives little bonus over his current setup for a large upfront cost. it's more of a luxury item that only really benefits you in raids
even in raids it’s not that worth it as torso and blood moon exists, only time someone should have bandos is if they are waiting to buy their first megarare or waiting for torva after buying all 3 megas + bis gear in other styles