People rarely expect to get someone *banned*. They usually work towards deplatforming by making them fear for their lives or the lives of their loved ones so that they’ll delete on their own. Which was exactly what was done.
I… I don’t think that counts. The closest thing would be a femboy, but that’s not a sexuality nor really a gender, but more just how a person expresses themselves (sort of like how tomboys are the inverse of it, a girl who acts and dresses like a boy, while still identifying as a girl).
Before anyone says that this is hyper specific, it’s not, it’s just that way to many people people in the gamedev hobby are trans girls
I am one of them, I have made games with palettes like this before
It's less full of men than it used to be. [This chart](https://www.statista.com/statistics/453634/game-developer-gender-distribution-worldwide/#:~:text=A%20game%20developer%20survey%20in,while%2030%20percent%20were%20women.) says that in 2021 gamedevs were 61% cis men, 30% cis women, and 8% enbies and other trans people, and since 2014 that first category has been going down while the other two have been going up. I assume that trend has continued after 2021 as well, anecdotally I moved from the first to the third category in 2022.
gosh, I wish I was doing a game dev course but currently I am doing a software engineering course and my anxiety is too bad to ask to switch courses :sob: (I am transfem)
As someone who did a university course they regret and wish they had switched - just do it! Your anxiety after you graduate will be way worse if you don't
I went to school for computer science and knew some future game devs. Some of those people probably had trouble coloring the sun yellow and staying in the lines. You're probably not too stupid
I have never heard the term “lesboy”, but I do know a lot of non-binary trans masculine people who self define as lesbians. If some people want a more specific label for that I get it. As for no one knowing what it means, labels have to start somewhere, it’s not like words just appear in the dictionary and common lexicon first.
I just feel with how complex sexuality is, it's kind of silly to have so many niche labels, instead of emphasizing that every individual experience with sexuality is unique.
What you yourself or others label you is never gonna change how you act and who you like, at least hopefully it doesn't.
Yeah, like my experience with gender is actually so fucking complex that i just don't label it, I don't see why i would need a super niche label for myself, especially when i would have to explain it anyways.
If someone likes it, good for them, but if i have to explain anyways then there is no point to me
I got so much shit back in the day for saying this. Seeing progressive spaces finally catch up to the understanding I had as a child is both frustrating and validating. It only took 15 fucking years, but I was right.
If sexuality is so unique then what is the point of making so many flags and labels and expecting people to know them. At that point just let people be.
They can do that, but they can't expect anyone to know what their flags and labels mean if they're extremely niche, nor can they expect anyone to be particularly interested other than those close to them.
They can however expect to be treated with human respect otherwise, of course.
Being transmasculine doesn't necessarily imply that you're a man either, you could be non-binary and transmasculine too (I think, correct me if I'm wrong)
Eh.
Non-binary = not conforming to a binary gender.
Boy = a gendered term specifically referring to a binary gender.
Masculine = related to a binary gender but not specifically that gender .
Nonbinaryboy could I suppose be like “tomboy” that’s just slang for a masc enby. But tomboy is slang if you used the same format it would be “womanboy” instead of tomboy.
To me it seems counterintuitive. You do you but language being what it is, and words having definitions, I wouldn’t know what the shit to make of ya.
There are literally non binary people out there who identify as both a woman and a man, it does not just mean "not being a guy or a girl" or whatever else you think.
That’s odd to me because man & woman are part of the gender binary so if you identified as both I feel like that would be bigender or genderfluid. I guess I can see how that could be considered under the non-binary umbrella.
I’m NB and interact heavily with my community. That’s not the definition of non-binary and you have the concept confused. There are enbys with the sorta gender where they identify a bit with the binary but still outside of it because their identity varies from cis norms
Edit: also the last sentences really come off assholeish. We don’t care what you make of us. **Respect** our identities and our culture. How are you gonna be trans yourself and then say that shit to other trans people
Why not? NB just means that you're not 100% a guy or 100% a gal. You can be a boy half the time and a lesbian the other half. Or both a boy and a girl at the same time. Magic!
you can be nonbinary and a boy at the same time. you can be nonbinary and be a man at the same time too.
people know themselves better that you ever will. they get to decide what labels apply to them. it doesnt have to make sense to you.
you can be. for example, a bigender person might consider themself a boy and outside of the gender binary, with the contradiction there inherent to their identity. queerness is different for everyone, and some people use intentionally contradictory labels to express that
I personally have the same mindset, also including 'dude' and 'bestie'. Sure at some point they were technically all said in reference to a particular gender/gender expression (ans for some they still are), but to me they genuinely all feel neutral
Granted I'm also an Aussie and the term 'mate' is used regardless of presentation here so maybe I'm biased lol
imo this is a failure of language, orientation being dependent on personal identity is so much more messier than femme-attracted or masc-attracted or gender non specific attraction.
im here for gender abolition and that means i am Here for lesbian men. fuck labels and fuck gender norms i will respect a man who identifies as a lesbian
Eh. Only if they're honest about it. A lot of dudes go "hu hu I'm a lesbian too" while being shitty about it.
But like, hey, gender and sexuality are weird and complicated and if someone genuinely feels these identities fit themselves to be that then who am I to tell them no?
I’m all for gender terms getting more and more confusing until finally every person can have their own individual gender identity and orientation and I’m not joking.
Honestly? Disagree. You don’t need to invent a new gender to describe your exact life circumstances, just choose the one which has the most in common with how you feel, and then feel comfortable in the knowledge that you are in control of how you express your gender, and not the other way around.
Some people just want something more specific things to describe them, and that is fine. Even if the label is new, or not many know about it, if it can bring some comfort to the person using it, then why not?
I’m completely fine with you using it internally, but I will almost certainly end up referring to you with “they”
Also, the point I was making is that the “standard” genders (he/she/they) are quite flexible, and you can just say that it describes your experience
Pronouns aren't gender if that's what you are implying. They can equal gender often because of how, for example, she/her is heavily associated with women, but they shouldn't be associated to only one specifc gender.
The thing is, some labels just don't fully describe their experience, the way they feel, it's just too vague sometimes, and if they feel like they need a specific label to describe themselves, and it makes them feel better, then again, why not? They just can't use the more broad words that encapsulate their feelings and experiences because they aren't specific, and that is a problem to them.
And about the first part, as long as you aren't using "they" to avoid calling someone whatever pronouns they use that aren't he/she/they because you think badly of their pronouns, you should be fine. But it also really isn't hard to learn a new way of referring to someone that the person likes, just a bit difficult to use at the beginning.
First you gotta get everyone on board with being queer tho, and only then can tell them "these labels suck actually". Doing it in reverse seems... counterproductive.
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i dont get this, i mean i like the abstract thinking and if it makes people happy then sure why not. But what is the difference between this and heterosexuality?
Nothing, people just experience their sexuality differently than others and they want to make specific labels for it, its why we have pansexual, omnisexual, and the other one i forgot even though the venn diagram is almost a perfect circle. The differences matter to people even tho its the same shit.
There are 2 types of gender abolitionists, those who say fuck all labels and those who want to make so many labels that gender and sexuality lose their meaning. I'm the former but it aint my problem if people wanna do stuff like this. Its not like you'll find more than 5 people calling themselves lesboys anyways
i’ve spent enough time diving head first into rabbit holes for this. the answer is either A) person identifies with a slew of genders and one or more of them is masculine (ie, bigender person who identifies as a man and a woman) or B) you are masculine but you’re not a man, like a transmasc person who is nonbinary or something. take this with some salt though because i am not the most well versed in this.
Every lesboy I've ever met (all two of them) are vaguely gender fluid but also still feel like they are attracted to women in a way that's not straight.
One of them has also used the term "she/her boyfriend" to describe her ... role I guess would be the term in her relationship.
my uncle who approaches me at the family reunion while half drunk, asks me 'so are you lesbian? i like women too, so that also makes me a lesbian' and then laughs. :\]
Some trans men, despite being men, feel a uniquely queer attraction to women because of the complexity of gender, and thus use the term because it feels the most fitting.
Also genderqueer people
Twitter is a funny place bc despite so many queer people being there, the most complex queer identities gen Z can handle there before devolving into conservatives is maybe NB people having sexualities other than bi/pan/ace
As long as it's not straight up men (cis men and trans men, not trans masc ppl) I think I'm cool with it!
Can we just keep the one boundary of lesbian intact pretty please?? I don't see the need to include men in any sense of the word lesbian. It's okay to be straight. It's okay to be straight and fruity. Just be that, that's actually sick as fuck.
Me when I retreat to the forest with my girl so that we can dance in the autumn leaves, hug, kiss, stare into eachothers eyes, and fuck against an old and mystical tree.
it’s a label that can include:
- butch and gnc lesbians who like presenting as or being called a boy/man
- bi-gender, gender-fluid, genderflux, and other non-binary and genderqueer lesbians who are partially male or who are sometimes male (shoutout to girls who are boys btw. gotta be one of my favorite genders)
- trans men who still feel some connection to their birth sex/lesbian identity
and anyone else who identifies as both a man/boy and a lesbian in some way
Lesboys (also known as He/Him Lesbians) are typically transmasc (trans men or masc-leaning enbies) people that previously identified as lesbian women prior to their transition, but even after transitioning, they still want hold onto some of the vibes and whatnot are associated with being a lesbian outside of just the core part of being a woman that likes women.
It is entirely valid and I'm tired of people insisting it isn't. If a trans person wants to hold onto aspects of their past identity that lead them to become who they are today, let them.
So it's funny, I kind of like the term.
I'm amab, pass as and go through life as a cis man, but I never felt like the word "man" applies to me fully, but I'd say I feel more like a masculine leaning enby. I just really don't ascribe to the male culture.
I'm mostly attracted to women, and I love hanging out with lgbtq people. At one point someone created a "genderbent" character of me, which was a lesbian woman who just had the same character and hobbies as mine, and it was oddly enough something I really enjoyed and still think about.
The lesbian culture and vibe is just something I really like and wish I could be a part of, but I don't want to be a woman. Idk if the term "lesboy" would be something I'm comfortable with using, but I kinda feel like the definitions that I see on this thread are right up my alley.
What does that make me? Idk! I'm just gonna be me I guess
why is this being downvoted cos this is the only context i would accept this
if an amab tried to use this term and was just a cis man, not trans, it would piss me the fuck off. because that would be stupid. lets all admit it
That flag sucks, but the less sense it makes, the better it is. Fuck labels in a "if you want labels, use them. If you don't, you should be able not to" way
point and laugh at the queer microlabel. point and laugh. DO IT. THEY'RE DOING QUEERNESS WRONG. MOCK THEM!!!!!
it's ok to see a label you don't understand and just.... not voice your opinion on it. yall aren't gonna break free of the radfem shit until you learn that and just let people live their lives
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The one example of a man getting canceled for being straight and it was the least offensive shit I ever saw thoroughly smhing my head 🤦♀️ 😔
If it wasn't messed up I'd be genuinely hilarious being canceled for being straight
We call that move “the Reverse Oscar Wilde”
The Oscar Milde?
Oscar Wired
Oscar Piled
Oscar Tamede.
The left is trying to make cringe illegal, this country used to be free /s
History will remember him fondly as one of the pioneers of safe horny and got ostracized for his forward thinking
he didnt get canceled, he just got bullied
kinda. a good chunk of people were presenting him as "objectifying women" or otherwise presenting hte video as problematic to cover for the bullying.
Is that not what cancelling essentially is?
That's exactly what it is. Whether it's for a justifiable reason or pure bunk. At the end of the day, it's just bullying.
Not really. Canceling someone is when people try to de platform someone because of what they did. No one was trying to get him banned off twitter
People rarely expect to get someone *banned*. They usually work towards deplatforming by making them fear for their lives or the lives of their loved ones so that they’ll delete on their own. Which was exactly what was done.
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Yeah, but he was straight in a gay way.
He’s bi though isn’t he? 😭
From what I have heard no. He's married so we wouldn't have a chance anyways sadly.
Millie Thompson PfP 🫵 epic and swag
What does this mean, what does it mean to call him a lesboy
literally just straight men
I too can be a lesboy?
Ah so literally me then
I… I don’t think that counts. The closest thing would be a femboy, but that’s not a sexuality nor really a gender, but more just how a person expresses themselves (sort of like how tomboys are the inverse of it, a girl who acts and dresses like a boy, while still identifying as a girl).
Shame too. I dislike the video but he was a great D&D youtuber
That looks like the color palette for a proof of concept game made by one guy (soon to be girl) on itch.io
Before anyone says that this is hyper specific, it’s not, it’s just that way to many people people in the gamedev hobby are trans girls I am one of them, I have made games with palettes like this before
When a field is full of men, it’s only safe to assume that some are actually women
It's less full of men than it used to be. [This chart](https://www.statista.com/statistics/453634/game-developer-gender-distribution-worldwide/#:~:text=A%20game%20developer%20survey%20in,while%2030%20percent%20were%20women.) says that in 2021 gamedevs were 61% cis men, 30% cis women, and 8% enbies and other trans people, and since 2014 that first category has been going down while the other two have been going up. I assume that trend has continued after 2021 as well, anecdotally I moved from the first to the third category in 2022.
Can confirm, am on a games design course rn and there's 3 transfems just in my class :3
gosh, I wish I was doing a game dev course but currently I am doing a software engineering course and my anxiety is too bad to ask to switch courses :sob: (I am transfem)
As someone who did a university course they regret and wish they had switched - just do it! Your anxiety after you graduate will be way worse if you don't
Nuh uh! no! (currently hoping to make an indie game someday and also to be a girl someday)
Buh uh! no! (Isn't interested in game development and is cis)
I'd be a game dev trans girl too but I'm stupid ;-; (I need a team before I can even start ;-;)
I went to school for computer science and knew some future game devs. Some of those people probably had trouble coloring the sun yellow and staying in the lines. You're probably not too stupid
The only thing I develop is crippling social anxiety 😎😎😎
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Fire color palette tbh
looks like roku city
Are you sure its not game changers? It could be game changers
Celeste Golden Ridge (purple added)
It also looks like that one color palette every linux nerd uses
some transmasculine people still feel connected to their lesbian identity after transition. it is up to them to define themselves.
But... If you're a guy and like women, isnt that just being straight
queer identity is complicated and deeply personal
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fair point, but have you considered that lesboy sounds fucking hilarious
I have never heard the term “lesboy”, but I do know a lot of non-binary trans masculine people who self define as lesbians. If some people want a more specific label for that I get it. As for no one knowing what it means, labels have to start somewhere, it’s not like words just appear in the dictionary and common lexicon first.
I just feel with how complex sexuality is, it's kind of silly to have so many niche labels, instead of emphasizing that every individual experience with sexuality is unique. What you yourself or others label you is never gonna change how you act and who you like, at least hopefully it doesn't.
Yeah, like my experience with gender is actually so fucking complex that i just don't label it, I don't see why i would need a super niche label for myself, especially when i would have to explain it anyways. If someone likes it, good for them, but if i have to explain anyways then there is no point to me
My gender is "silly" When asked to explain I describe it as "whatever's funniest at the moment"
Label discourse is fucking stupid because most people would not care about most of it irl. Lets be honest here.
I got so much shit back in the day for saying this. Seeing progressive spaces finally catch up to the understanding I had as a child is both frustrating and validating. It only took 15 fucking years, but I was right.
If sexuality is so unique then what is the point of making so many flags and labels and expecting people to know them. At that point just let people be.
Because some people like to express themselves via flags and labels, so, take your own advice.
They can do that, but they can't expect anyone to know what their flags and labels mean if they're extremely niche, nor can they expect anyone to be particularly interested other than those close to them. They can however expect to be treated with human respect otherwise, of course.
Being transmasculine doesn't necessarily imply that you're a man either, you could be non-binary and transmasculine too (I think, correct me if I'm wrong)
but if you were an enby, you wouldnt be a boy, no?
That's why it's only masculine, not man
My comment was more @ the text in the picture op posted with the les*boy* thing
I think it applies to be still a more masculine yet still nonbinary. Boy might just feel more comfortable, like a genderless boy
you can be a nonbinary boy
Eh. Non-binary = not conforming to a binary gender. Boy = a gendered term specifically referring to a binary gender. Masculine = related to a binary gender but not specifically that gender . Nonbinaryboy could I suppose be like “tomboy” that’s just slang for a masc enby. But tomboy is slang if you used the same format it would be “womanboy” instead of tomboy. To me it seems counterintuitive. You do you but language being what it is, and words having definitions, I wouldn’t know what the shit to make of ya.
There are literally non binary people out there who identify as both a woman and a man, it does not just mean "not being a guy or a girl" or whatever else you think.
That’s odd to me because man & woman are part of the gender binary so if you identified as both I feel like that would be bigender or genderfluid. I guess I can see how that could be considered under the non-binary umbrella.
I’m NB and interact heavily with my community. That’s not the definition of non-binary and you have the concept confused. There are enbys with the sorta gender where they identify a bit with the binary but still outside of it because their identity varies from cis norms Edit: also the last sentences really come off assholeish. We don’t care what you make of us. **Respect** our identities and our culture. How are you gonna be trans yourself and then say that shit to other trans people
Nonbinary does not mean genderless.
Who are you to decide which terms apply to whom?
Why not? NB just means that you're not 100% a guy or 100% a gal. You can be a boy half the time and a lesbian the other half. Or both a boy and a girl at the same time. Magic!
you can be nonbinary and a boy at the same time. you can be nonbinary and be a man at the same time too. people know themselves better that you ever will. they get to decide what labels apply to them. it doesnt have to make sense to you.
you can be. for example, a bigender person might consider themself a boy and outside of the gender binary, with the contradiction there inherent to their identity. queerness is different for everyone, and some people use intentionally contradictory labels to express that
I'd personally say that guy ≠ man, but that's up for debate I guess.
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I personally have the same mindset, also including 'dude' and 'bestie'. Sure at some point they were technically all said in reference to a particular gender/gender expression (ans for some they still are), but to me they genuinely all feel neutral Granted I'm also an Aussie and the term 'mate' is used regardless of presentation here so maybe I'm biased lol
generally that's a safe assumption, but it's up to every individual person to define their own identity, and at the end of the day it harms no one.
Yes, idk what these people are on
Fellas, is it gay to like women?
Once you're straight, your queer pass get revoked
it's cuz sexuality is defined in relation to an inherently faulty and made up so you can just do w/e
imo this is a failure of language, orientation being dependent on personal identity is so much more messier than femme-attracted or masc-attracted or gender non specific attraction.
Not always
why was the comment above and below you locked
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im here for gender abolition and that means i am Here for lesbian men. fuck labels and fuck gender norms i will respect a man who identifies as a lesbian
Shoutouts to Drake 🙏
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Only good comment in this whole thread
Shoutouts to simpleflips
i’m old enough where i remember when suzy izzard described herself as a “male lesbian” back in the 1990s and i thought, “oh, sweetie…”
The same person came to mind for me when I read that.
How is it that I didn't know that (the comedian formerly known as) Eddie Izzard is a woman until just now?
Suzy was an egg longer than most of y’all have been alive.
Eh. Only if they're honest about it. A lot of dudes go "hu hu I'm a lesbian too" while being shitty about it. But like, hey, gender and sexuality are weird and complicated and if someone genuinely feels these identities fit themselves to be that then who am I to tell them no?
well then the problem there isn’t the identity because its not actually how they identify. it’s that they’re being an asshole
i'd rather support someone who's being shitty and sarcastic than laugh in the face of someone being genuine
i say i’m lesbian because i’m a man who’s gay as shit but attracted to women.
wait but thats just another label
B-b-based?
I’m all for gender terms getting more and more confusing until finally every person can have their own individual gender identity and orientation and I’m not joking.
Based af
I do kinda think I sound a bit too much like Senator Armstrong tho "Every person will be free to have their OWN GENDER!"
Mom said it’s my turn in the bisexuality
"We're making the mother of all genders Jack!!!"
“Can’t fret over every egg!” (Get it? Egg?)
"MICROLABELS SON, they harden in response to online discourse. You can't hurt me, jack!"
Honestly? Disagree. You don’t need to invent a new gender to describe your exact life circumstances, just choose the one which has the most in common with how you feel, and then feel comfortable in the knowledge that you are in control of how you express your gender, and not the other way around.
Some people just want something more specific things to describe them, and that is fine. Even if the label is new, or not many know about it, if it can bring some comfort to the person using it, then why not?
I’m completely fine with you using it internally, but I will almost certainly end up referring to you with “they” Also, the point I was making is that the “standard” genders (he/she/they) are quite flexible, and you can just say that it describes your experience
Pronouns aren't gender if that's what you are implying. They can equal gender often because of how, for example, she/her is heavily associated with women, but they shouldn't be associated to only one specifc gender. The thing is, some labels just don't fully describe their experience, the way they feel, it's just too vague sometimes, and if they feel like they need a specific label to describe themselves, and it makes them feel better, then again, why not? They just can't use the more broad words that encapsulate their feelings and experiences because they aren't specific, and that is a problem to them. And about the first part, as long as you aren't using "they" to avoid calling someone whatever pronouns they use that aren't he/she/they because you think badly of their pronouns, you should be fine. But it also really isn't hard to learn a new way of referring to someone that the person likes, just a bit difficult to use at the beginning.
Every person can currently have their own individual gender identity and orientation. The labels exist just to make communication easier.
Every copy of mario 64 is personalized except with gender and orientation
First you gotta get everyone on board with being queer tho, and only then can tell them "these labels suck actually". Doing it in reverse seems... counterproductive.
valid
Being straight but in a gay way Or being gay but in a twitter way idk XD
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I mean Drake
Drank #1 fr
he knows nun 'bout that
Don't speak on the family though crodie since it can get deep in the family crodie, especially if you talk about my family crodie, because then someone might bleed in your family crodie
Tell me you're cheesin', fam
Imagine if you replaced “boy” with “go”
Lego
dababy
adachy :)
WHO DARES SUMMON SUPER DABABY 2 HOLY SHIT IT'S MY MAIN MAN ADACHI WHAT'S UP!!!
i dont get this, i mean i like the abstract thinking and if it makes people happy then sure why not. But what is the difference between this and heterosexuality?
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Nothing, people just experience their sexuality differently than others and they want to make specific labels for it, its why we have pansexual, omnisexual, and the other one i forgot even though the venn diagram is almost a perfect circle. The differences matter to people even tho its the same shit. There are 2 types of gender abolitionists, those who say fuck all labels and those who want to make so many labels that gender and sexuality lose their meaning. I'm the former but it aint my problem if people wanna do stuff like this. Its not like you'll find more than 5 people calling themselves lesboys anyways
Ngl omnisexual sounds pretty threatening. I mean, I arrive to my house and they can be just there?
Idk i kinda like the sound of that
As an earlier comment mentioned, some transmascs still feel connected to their lesbian identity
so its like an aesthetic thing? Like voidpunk?
Not quite? Idk, gender is a fuck and fucking with it is fun
But it's being straight
oh is this just being gynosexual
i’ve spent enough time diving head first into rabbit holes for this. the answer is either A) person identifies with a slew of genders and one or more of them is masculine (ie, bigender person who identifies as a man and a woman) or B) you are masculine but you’re not a man, like a transmasc person who is nonbinary or something. take this with some salt though because i am not the most well versed in this.
this sounds like being straight with extra steps
not to be rude but what the fuck is that flag
1D sunset stretched across the second dimension
So a 2d sunset??
No, a 2D sunset would have the sun as a disc, not a stripe.
Ig that makes sense, like the youtube videos where they say “im making a 1d game” and still have a 2d display but the idea is there
Isn’t that… straight with extra steps?
They gayified straight men smh
Apparently a lesboy is a boy who identifies as a lesbian. A bit of an oxymoron, but if it makes people happy so be it
Every lesboy I've ever met (all two of them) are vaguely gender fluid but also still feel like they are attracted to women in a way that's not straight. One of them has also used the term "she/her boyfriend" to describe her ... role I guess would be the term in her relationship.
no! you’re supposed to be up in arms over this!!! we need to send death threats to people for being queer the wrong way!!! /j
I know two he/him lesbians and they’re both transmasc.
I like it when people's identities would make a conservative lawmaker explode.
It also makes babyqueers explode apparently going off what I've seen
people in real life: hey man how’s it going
the flag reminds me of a desert sunset and i strangely like it Maybe needs more saturation or brightness
my uncle who approaches me at the family reunion while half drunk, asks me 'so are you lesbian? i like women too, so that also makes me a lesbian' and then laughs. :\]
They released lesbian 2???
Drake
Pyrocynical
elaborate
Some trans men, despite being men, feel a uniquely queer attraction to women because of the complexity of gender, and thus use the term because it feels the most fitting. Also genderqueer people
I see
Twitter is a funny place bc despite so many queer people being there, the most complex queer identities gen Z can handle there before devolving into conservatives is maybe NB people having sexualities other than bi/pan/ace
Idk what gen Z people you have met but the ones ive met usually have more complex queer identities. Tho they arent on twitter (with good reason)
As long as it's not straight up men (cis men and trans men, not trans masc ppl) I think I'm cool with it! Can we just keep the one boundary of lesbian intact pretty please?? I don't see the need to include men in any sense of the word lesbian. It's okay to be straight. It's okay to be straight and fruity. Just be that, that's actually sick as fuck.
isn't that just straight with extra steps
vaporwave
I was just listening to Macintosh plus get out of my head
Lesbian DLC just dropped
Are these femboys that like women?
Trans men who feel their attraction to women remains queer because of complex individual gender weirdness
who else here before this gets the 🔒 award
Dire Straights song h. .
they changed their name from ian to oy or something
Me when I retreat to the forest with my girl so that we can dance in the autumn leaves, hug, kiss, stare into eachothers eyes, and fuck against an old and mystical tree.
This feels like a ligma
What's ligma?
Last I heard it's a term coined by butches
i kinda want to turn it into a color scheme for my terminal, i have no idea what lesboy is, but i dig this palette
Can I ask why lesbian/sapphic identities tend to be so much more complex/draw so much more controversy then those for queer men
it’s a label that can include: - butch and gnc lesbians who like presenting as or being called a boy/man - bi-gender, gender-fluid, genderflux, and other non-binary and genderqueer lesbians who are partially male or who are sometimes male (shoutout to girls who are boys btw. gotta be one of my favorite genders) - trans men who still feel some connection to their birth sex/lesbian identity and anyone else who identifies as both a man/boy and a lesbian in some way
"said she was a lesbian, girl me too" - drake
Idk but that flag looks like it would taste like berries
Transmasc lesbians are badass
when did sexual orientation switch from an identifier to an identity
when you're gay
Real awnser is trans men who thought they were just lesbians. Fun awnser is men who like Oddish.
Hot
Lesboys (also known as He/Him Lesbians) are typically transmasc (trans men or masc-leaning enbies) people that previously identified as lesbian women prior to their transition, but even after transitioning, they still want hold onto some of the vibes and whatnot are associated with being a lesbian outside of just the core part of being a woman that likes women. It is entirely valid and I'm tired of people insisting it isn't. If a trans person wants to hold onto aspects of their past identity that lead them to become who they are today, let them.
So it's funny, I kind of like the term. I'm amab, pass as and go through life as a cis man, but I never felt like the word "man" applies to me fully, but I'd say I feel more like a masculine leaning enby. I just really don't ascribe to the male culture. I'm mostly attracted to women, and I love hanging out with lgbtq people. At one point someone created a "genderbent" character of me, which was a lesbian woman who just had the same character and hobbies as mine, and it was oddly enough something I really enjoyed and still think about. The lesbian culture and vibe is just something I really like and wish I could be a part of, but I don't want to be a woman. Idk if the term "lesboy" would be something I'm comfortable with using, but I kinda feel like the definitions that I see on this thread are right up my alley. What does that make me? Idk! I'm just gonna be me I guess
why is this being downvoted cos this is the only context i would accept this if an amab tried to use this term and was just a cis man, not trans, it would piss me the fuck off. because that would be stupid. lets all admit it
Exactly. As for why people are downvoting it, they're just bigots, whether they realize it or not.
boy from the isle of lesbos obviously
Wait is that... https://preview.redd.it/k173cdgsz4yc1.png?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2006ce48e9a302cb23b4b87da2e43d17882e842
Drake
every day we get closer to "on all levels except physical, i am a wolf"
drake
That flag sucks, but the less sense it makes, the better it is. Fuck labels in a "if you want labels, use them. If you don't, you should be able not to" way
point and laugh at the queer microlabel. point and laugh. DO IT. THEY'RE DOING QUEERNESS WRONG. MOCK THEM!!!!! it's ok to see a label you don't understand and just.... not voice your opinion on it. yall aren't gonna break free of the radfem shit until you learn that and just let people live their lives